@Kp

Yea… Rubbish collection problem have to be solved. Previously I keep complaint to MPSP for 4-5 times and now its better as the trash lorry got came in 1-2 times per week. But still it can be improve. Security issues have to push harder and the carrier issues. As what been told by management team our residential approved by MPSP as gated project. But my question is… if its approved then why IJM didn’t provide us even with a simple barrier? Even guard hse too far from entrance. We all have to gather and place complaint to IJM management and also IJM high management. Action have to be done no matter how.

@worry

Need a bunch of owner to make a stand on this issues. Otherwise IJM management can’t do much as decision make by IJM high management. Something for you to think… Why IJM still want to use this security company although it been few case before? E.g Break in IJM management office, my case and also so many complaint from owner.

really get me piss off for the management office. called around 5-6 times,evytime gv me excuse said dey hv contact d contractor for d retification, but evytime I checked ntng happen.ask dem to call me bek nt even a response.its jz simply like acting ignorant and try to drag as long as dey can. @#$%& ! the water leaking problem become more serious n however I complain, nt any action been taken ! Good job IJM! Good job FAIZA ! jz as stupid as ur appearance !

@TG
I’m lorong 7.
Regarding the guard issue, i not sure you guys got such experience that he ask drink/food from you?
There is one young whiteshirt guard went my house today and ask me got food or not. Last week he even ask me can sleep here or not. I like WTH!Terrible quality…if your door is not lock, he will just enter your compound and talk to you and ask something from you.
And yes, they did not even care who enter our taman as they look sleepy all the time.
I prefer previous blueshirt guards as they will patrol every 2hrs n so.

yes. prefer blueshirt guard. they are smarter. Dont blame if someone jump into your house area. No way to control that. As long as the guard manage to stop stranger with car / bike come to our Taman. That is good enough.

@Kiong

Problem now is the guard himself jump into my house. Nt “someone”. It’s the one that suppose to guard us.

OK , since MPSP approved our Taman as gated community , then we should request IJM to put up the barrier gate or touch n go system . May we should call up an meeting with IJM .

@Kp

As far as i concern, this project is not a gated community. its guarded only

@lee
Hi Lee,

means we only can install manual boom gate instead of automatic boom gate?hmmm…

@Kp

I don think we are consider gated, as the first concept is gated is no external reno allowed, and we ned to pay monthly for the fees. but one thing tat I observed, is our own community level of thrust and commitment. so far as my concern, I think all of us not even know each of the community talking here. we used to talk about the problem, but seen no solution. sorry to say that, people only pop out and get themselves involve when only something happened to them.

Sharing pay the monthly for the fees of gated i’m think should be not a big problems.
safety is important for us!!

i think the most we can do is request frequent patrol and install a MANUAL boom gate since this is a guarded community..not gated..We are not allow to have automatic boom gate..else we will be in strata title already.

Request from IJM office there or?

went to my property last week. straight away drive in no guard even bother me. stay in my hz for almost 2 hrs, no even one guard petrol by. should have try to drive a tank in…

so far noticed that the taman is stil quite quiet except evening time..lot of ppls playing and jogging in the garden area…

perhaps another 6 months will have more neighbor moving in~

the playing and jogging person it is sanctuary ppl or outside ppl?

@vv
I’m wondering that as well.

@Chan
Yea… thats so true. Thats due to no meeting been set up. Need to setup a meeting for all owner to meet up n start talking about setting up committee.

@TG
I think jz forget bout it….no ppl will care as long as it’s out of their business. people live in peace in their shelter with full grill, cctv and alarm. double isolated from outsider. so if anything happened, lock the door, shut the window and snap from the hole…

cruel , but solid fact …..

@Chan
I guess the main concern is our move in rate isn <10%?
If need to meet up and discuss about anything, i'm ok for Saturday morning and Sunday noon.

@Chan
It’s true that they will nt care till it happened to them. But I jz wish them all the best. They will only serve as own guard to their hse. They will someday left home unattended for holidays or back to hometown. That time the karma will come. Which unit or lorong is ur unit? Already move in?

Hello all. I’m frm Lorong 4. Jz tried the bad experience frm management office staff. Only wan buy few pcs bathroom tiles oso hv so many problem with bad attitude.
I’m agree with hv a meeting for all owner to make our environment more safety n harmony. Who concern jz join in, who dun wan involve jz ignore. Jz try our best to do the best for our own community.

@LE
Hi LE, you may direct contact Shiva. Probably he still have stock on the toilet tiles. But the color might be running abit.

@TG
i’m at lorong 9. so, anyone volunteer to organize the meet up or discussion? let’s see how many person response here…don’t throw bek a question, just propose your opinion.

hi chan / TG
Just fix the time and count me in ok

been to Sunway property fair, IJM is promoting this Permatang Sanctuary. heard too many negative input, making me dont even want to go to their booth…

There were still selling it at rm8xx
IJM might need to give a bigger rebate if they want their sales to continue … they are only at phase 2 or phase 3 !!!

@newbie
Thx. I get my tiles d. They hv stock, jz the response is no good. Wait few days only get it.
Found the FB page is inactive. I think v can hv more discussion on FB page there for all resident.

@LE

Hi LE,
can you give me Shiva hp also? I would like to purchase tile from her too…

It’s hard to communicate here as it’s hard to know each other too. Can anyone suggest better group like example whatsapp or wechat group chat? For that how can we share phone number but still taking care of privacy?

@Chan
Shiva 0165483502

I suggest v active in FB page since most ppl oso hv FB. The FB page seem nobody update anything there. Then can pm for further detail discussion in wechat or whatsapp.

That true. Bt the page admin have to play the role to make the page much cheeerful and active.

can anyone advise who is having the multimedia box (Multimarga) key?

checked with office, they have the key for that multimedia box now so can be collected anytime during office hours.

@bok
hi bok, may I noe what is the key for?

That is the connection box for UNIFI (initially plan for Streamyx). I’ll collect it too as previously they told me Telekom guy will have that key as it’s universal key but found out they didn’t have it.

ok, looks like it’s the FTB (fibre termination box) which is unifi ready? so no more drilling required for tm to bring the fibre cables from outside to inside premise? not sure if i understand correctly.

@bok
hi bok,
yes. its all ready n no drilling needed. i just installed maxis fiber few weeks ago.
Just get the multimedia box’s key from the IJM office will do.

thanks @newbie. mind sharing where do you place the modem/router? i’m trying to locate an optimal location for the router for best wifi connection.

@bok
i js located under the staircase..but will move to living hall tv cabinet soon.

@newbie
thanks.

@K2
Hi K2,

My name is Calvinyoo, you can get me by search this name in facebook.
You’re welcome to join as Page Admin in order to make facebook more cheerful.
Please PM your Facebook registered email. Thanks.

To the resident of Permatang Sanctury – Phase 1,

On behalf of the Managing Director of Blueforce Security Service (M) Sdn Bhd, Encik Farouk. I would like to clarify and make a statement upon recent accusation made verbally and on the internet towards our security personnel and the company.

First of all, Nepalese ex-army security personnel has been deployed since 28th of May 2015 with the uniform of white color. We have put a set of photocopy ‘PERMIT” and army certificate at the guard house in case you need any further clarification. As from the 1st of December 2014 until 27th of May 2015, we deployed local Sabah personnel with blue uniform, photocopies of police vetting is also at the guard house.

Secondly, our security personnel carry out bi-hourly patrolling cum clock-in. Photocopies of clock-in report as supporting evidence are able to check at the guard house as well.

Thirdly, as our Standing Order Procedure of the Guard House, we register all contractors and visitors with pass issued respectively. However, during patrol cum clock-in and/or meal/rest hour (1 hour per individual), there will be 1 security personal located at the guard post only. Copies of registration book are able to be check at the guard house as well.

We believed that security is not the responsibility of ONE, but good SECURITY comes from the cooperation of each person/s involved from the the security provider, the management to the resident. Therefore I would like to urge the resident, in future if there is any visitors or contractors that come into the premises without “PASS” or registration, kindly insist and instruct them to go to the guard house for further registration. Your cooperation is highly appreciated in regards of this matter.

Lastly, we would like to further clarify that we provide hostel for free to our worker at Taman Impian Indah that equip with furniture such as cooking utilities and 3 weekly advance (RM100 respectively) follow by salary at around 7th of each month, henceforth, we do not receive any complaint pertaining that our security personnel steal, bagging, borrow from the patron, owner and/or tenants for the past ten years. If yes, please inform us, you may email us at blueforcessmsb@gmail.com and quote us the number or alphabet of the photo of the security personnel that soon will be put up at the guard house as well together with the time of incident. We assure you that we will take drastic action immediately.

Regards,
Nigel
(Personal Assistant to Managing Director)
On behalf of Encik Farouk and Blueforce Security Service (M) Sdn Bhd

Jiat Lat liow, until the PA of MD also have to post in this forum.
But he never clarify clearly whether the guard himself jump into TG’s house as posted by TG.
Yes or No ?

Santuary Garden happening already…some say famous. Lol… Someone died at one of the house at still under reno.

@Kap Siao
Serious? What happened?

@Kap Siao
Really? mind to share what happened?

@Kap Siao
lol….damnx funny your statement, someone (WHO????) died at one of the house (WHICH?????) at still under reno (WHEN??????)

provide fact or else, nah….jz simply a pity keyboard hero

@Chan
In this world people do have their privacy la… It’s nt great to expose someone house unit number to public just because want to prove ownself not a “keyboard hero”. That will only make your self bastard. Btw… Pls..mixed around sometime to know what is happening around you and your neighbourhood.

Anyone have issue with the uneven road in front of ur house? The lorong in front of my house becomes water pond during raining. Complained to IJM but got feedback that MPSP is not taking action

@CF
Hi CF, yup. my house (lorong 7) also having same issue. Very terrible. I complaint to IJm and they say MPSP will fix it after 70% move in rate..i personally felt the answer is quite lame.

Probably we shall talk to the Manager instead of the manager team?

@CF
Hi CF, yup. my house (lorong 7) also having same issue. Very terrible. I complaint to IJm and they say MPSP will fix it after 70% move in rate..i personally felt the answer is quite lame.

Probably we shall talk to the Manager instead of the *management team?

@newbie

@newbie

complained to them before. they said that their contractor will only mob in once to do all after some time later. as the mob in cost is high, so dey wont simply do 1 by 1 but will resurface most ppl stay in…

do anyone know the price of land per sqf that area?

IJM Durian Feast this Sunday, anyone going?

1 of the worst project from IJM. So many complaint but yet to improve. Dissappointed!!! Shame on you IJM.

You guys are just plain stupid or lazy complaining about the project and the management in public. If you have invested hundreds of thousands into this property, this should be the last thing you should do in a public forum. Just past a simple copy around the taman and get their phone numbers and contact name, then arrange for a place to meet. Those with Whatsapp even better. You can discusss about the issues in Whatsapp and take it to the management together. Make sense to you all dumbells???

That’s good thinking. If IJM (a renowned, strong and reliable developer) doesn’t meet the standards, then what about those half past 6 developers who got on the gravy train during the boom boom times? Do you think they will fare better? My experience tells me it is worse. Moreover, I think after a year, the management committee will come from the residents. So this is just temporary. No need to spoil the value of your property in a public forum on a petty issue. If you are staying for a long time, just rest the case. About making good on the defects from IJM, they had done a good job on my property. I had no complaints! I deemed the property a pretty good buy compared with my other investments. The workmanship is excellent compared to the other properties I have. The chicken farm….go check with the neighbourhood staying there. They will tell you the real thing, perhaps a little smell after a downpour but tolerable. If you are a long time investor, don’t fret. The value of land continues to appreciate. Who knows, if I am owner of chicken farm, I’ll find alternative location and sell off the land! He who laughs last, laughs best!

Agree. Those dumbells don’t even know who is in charge after handing over vacant possession. IJM was honest enough to tell them that the roads and drains are now under MPSP but they are in denial. They paid hundreds of thousands to IJM, now IJM says it is MPSP. They just cannot tolerate this…like children throwing their tantrums because daddy not listening to them anymore!! Don’t they now pay their dues like quit rent and assessment to MPSP and not IJM? Forgot who their daddy looks like? It is not going to change anywhere anytime soon. The next time the toilets stink, better complain to IWK and not IJM. They need to have a clear mind on how to complaint and be effective.

Hahah..kuat lindung IJM? Preparing for phase 3 arr?? Clear your shit before move to next phase la..

Hi KEV and James (actually greeting to IJM),
I’m one of owner of phase 2. now people are tend to commend openly if their issues are not solved in accordingly at front stage. Yes, the road is under MPSP and Toilet stink is under IWK, but don’t forget your ‘customer service responsibility’ and you might need to stand with owners too sometimes. The better owners feedback on IJM response, the better reputation on Permatang Sanctuary. It is win-win situation. What so called dream house? A plain building built with your so called ‘standard’? Please look at ECOWORLD Simpang Ampat, everyday crowd with people going to take snap! If at your point, don’t you think you will say ‘Garden is under MPSP as well’ ??
We love our home, we hope to see there is our dream house. Come on, Hundered of Thousands, and we don’t have donation come from anyone.

That so true Calvin. As owner I didn’t care to those investor that your investment will be high profit or not due to bad reputation. I just care my hard earn money is well spent. Yea! True that some public facilities is under MPSP but how about the rest? Defect that related to house interior and structure need to complaint to MPSP as well? Ask yourself. Who built it? MPSP? Furthermore MPSP do work much faster and efficiently to closed the complaint compare to IJM. I had no complaint on MPSP services. Much much better than IJM. Problems with IJMis they provide shit after sales service. Just for your info if you didn’t realize there is a warranty period (stated in SnP) that it’s our right as consumer to claim back any defect. So what wrong if we complaint when the can’t provide the services up to the standard? Of course we’ll approach IJM at 1st but if still they didn’t take action surely we will go public. For investor I do understand, you just want to earn high profit from good reputation. But you’ll not care the condition of the place and house quality as you’ll not stay there.

aiya, talk so much do wat..at last also greeted as keyboard hero only. IJM phase 1 is jz a try an error project, who’s else going to care about it. investor, don even spend a sec to look at the problem. rich ppl, buy it, conseal,compound, isulated it and own their house like nobody business,wat happen outside pls don come bother me. grp with family, i’m so damnx busy with my stuff, hope those defect wil solve automatically. others, Oo… thr’s a fire on opposite, i shall shut my door, close my window and cont. with my tv….accept it la!

To all Sanctuary Garden owner; pls take note.

IJM will organize the “Formation Of Residents Association”. All owners are invited to make our residence “Safe, Secure & Harmony”.

Details as follows:-
Date: Sunday, 11th Oct 2015
Time: 10:00am
Venue: IJM Site Sales Office

Will discuss on matters:

1. Membership fee and monthly fee
2. Election for office bearer for President, Secretary and Treasurer
3. Expenses incurred
4. Security guard house and guard company selection
5. Community service e.g – gotong-royong, festive gathering, community policy/rules and etc.

what ? membership fee and monthly fee ? Joining country club kah.

So, thereafter, IJM wash hands already kah, everything point to RA lah.

After this is nt strata tittle project. RA have to maintain own self our residential. Either do it or abandon it. That all the choice we have as we do aware of this on the day we bought it right.

don’t need RA – abandon it

In our contract, it did said the security guard is free for one year. After that is up to the tenant to continue the security service or to stop it. I can tell you only 50% are agree to pay for the security service and it will ended up those who do not pay will also get the benefit. There many types of behaviour people, it is difficult to organised. C

This area got unifi yet? Went to one of TM meeting, they said nowadays TM will focus more on project that has infra ready by developer.

Yeap! Ready to connect anytime you want.

Is the air-cond piping inverter or non-inverter?

@Ng
hi Ng, its non-inverter.

@chow
Thanks Chow. Have you done plaster ceiling? How much is it?

I am not sure what is the diff between inverter & non inverter piping, but FYI my whole house r using Inverter Airconditioner.
So, I guest, still should be able to install even w/o inverter piping.

After the recent meeting wz IJm on 11th Oct’15, seems that the security agreement will b ending soon (by end of Nov’15). That’s why we had formed RA team to run. But we need the co-operation from all residences here in Permatang Sanctuary to make Sanctuary Garden a safe, wz good neighborhood & Healthy place to stay. If everyone chip in some fun, then it will not be much burden to all residences here. The RA team will arrange fr an AGM meeting wz all residences once the team have compile everything to be present to the residences. So, all yr participation to the coming AGM meeting is very much needed.

Any one has good contractor for cabinet &meson work can recommend? Thanks

I don’t support security guard because it will create inconvenience for visitors and relatives to visit and in long term, no one will pay a visit. Having a security guard also doesn’t guaranteed security. Many luxury condo or condos also have tight security – Scanning but break-in still happened. Should save the security $$ and installed CCTV as an option.

Should I say, jz save the $$ to hire private guard and seat in front of our guard. Hahah…

Should I say, jz save the $$ to hire private guard and seat in front of our gate. Hahah…

I can tell you that after the guard services ended, break-in will happened at many houses.

I think alarm system is basic nowadays, every house should hv regardless guard service available or not….

upcoming meeting will be a waste as most of the committee wont show up. yet, ppl r expected to pay ntng but gain everything. hence, just care for yourself. don’t go kepo and do lebih stuff.

NK – agree with you. I think those who are eager to have guarded houses, in the 1st place, should not buy Permatang Sactuary. They should buy guarded or gated house or condo. Many house owner many agree to apply for guarded but many will not agree to pay because many people do not plan to stay there. So, eventually, the one who volunteer to do this job, actually will realized doing ‘kepo’ job.

Any update on the committee? Since the gathering there is no more update till now. Anyone knw how much will the registration fee and monthly fee will be imposed?

@K2
K2, you are not attending the committee meeting? I tot you are one of the residence also? perhaps can get update from sale office rather then here…

CS :
I don’t support security guard because it will create inconvenience for visitors and relatives to visit and in long term, no one will pay a visit. Having a security guard also doesn’t guaranteed security. Many luxury condo or condos also have tight security – Scanning but break-in still happened. Should save the security $$ and installed CCTV as an option.

yaya .. agreed with you .. install CCTV much much better
so that when robber robber your house , u can playback and say to your friends/relative who visited you : see , this is how the robber broke in my house , see , here is where he took my gold bar.

the best is : see , u can see he is raping my wife there , pushed her back and then get her naked

@bthaw

Bthaw, pls don share your history to us here la. although we wont even go to care bout it. I guess its become ur nightmare ad after it used to happen to yourself rite? cheer

@NK
I’m didn’t attend the meeting as I’m outstation for important business trip. Why should ask sales office? Thought the guard will be manage by the Resident Association Committee after been hand over frm IJM. IJM will nt manage our residences anymore as it’s nt strata titles bro.

I spoke to IJM office. IJM said they only assist with free of charge. Actually, is none of their business anymore. IJM said it is easy to get approval but it is not easy to get the community to agree on the monthly payment due to, too many houses are empty. Is the guard still there ?

bthaw :

CS :I don’t support security guard because it will create inconvenience for visitors and relatives to visit and in long term, no one will pay a visit. Having a security guard also doesn’t guaranteed security. Many luxury condo or condos also have tight security – Scanning but break-in still happened. Should save the security $$ and installed CCTV as an option.

yaya .. agreed with you .. install CCTV much much betterso that when robber robber your house , u can playback and say to your friends/relative who visited you : see , this is how the robber broke in my house , see , here is where he took my gold bar.
the best is : see , u can see he is raping my wife there , pushed her back and then get her naked

wow . . I guess this type of incident must have happened to you before . . !!!

@CS
Yeap… still there. But have been change to other company ady which is hire by the committee. Company of V Global Security. But what I heard is IJM still sponsor till February so that the committe will have time to be form. But I yet to heard any update or the amount of fee frm the committe. If reasonable I might consider to pay. Otherwise forget about it. I’m nt buying strata tittle property after all.

@K2

how much consider reasonable for you? izit ok if they charge RM50-80/household? for more safety enhancement and peaceful life, are you willing to pay these sum of amount? or u think actually security is not necessary and is a waste as u ad hv CCTV and alarm been installed?

Received letter from RA stated the guard fee is RM150/month just for guards? Not include any facilities? Are you kidding me? We need not to pay if don’t wish to join as part of the members. But… our in and out access will be limited. E.g – need register at guard house although we’re the owner. Just wonder how can they do that… as stated in “Guarded Neighborhood” it’s not allow to block any access of owner nor public as the house is belong to “Individual Title”(individual owned) not “Strata Title”(private property). Plus all facilities and road if belong to public. Means, the money use to maintained our housing road, road lamp and everything is from tax’s payer money.

Not that I want to say RM150/month is too expensive. But why outside still have RM50-80/month market but we need to pay RM150? Even some residence have lesser units compare to ours but still paying lesser. Example Taman Idaman in Simpang Ampat. I didn’t see any different of quality or even any sign of lower quality. So it’s worth it? That is my concern.

Be positive guys, that is just my concern and point of view. Some may not agree with me, but as I said it’s just a point of view. Or something just for discussion. No offense to anyone.
If have anything that I might thought wrong just open up and discuss.

@K2
Hi, I feel the same as you also. it’s kinda over rated for the monthly fee. at first I tot is RM150 for registration, but seen its like monthly term. defernately I wont pay for tis. by now you can see the grass in the garden is not been cut and debris all around ad. but if calc as per their security fee, 2pax per 24 hours, RM7.50 x 2 x24hrs x 30days = RM10,800, devide by said 40 vacant household, RM270/per house. so…the fee actually is reasonable…but in fact, I wont pay so much for it.

@NK
Yea, have to always compare apple to apple. Compare to others residence, which is same like us “Guarded Neighborhood” normally will not go over than RM90/month. Just last few days ago I went to WHH Land Developer office for their launching on new project in Condominium. They also just charge RM160/month which include failities. E.g swimming pool, gym, cleaning, electricity for lighting and more.

Furthermore, no point to dream big. No matter how expensive the guard, its just guard which is to make round every hour and control access. We can’t access the security level as strata title residence. Why? Anyone can jump over the perimeter fence. By law, MPSP not allow more than 5 ft fencing. Secondly, guard just stay at guard house and make round every hour. In between that 1 hour someone could be killed or house been robbed. Expensive and non expensive guard will not make any different on this.

Those that stay near to guard house only get most benefit as it’s where the guard will be most of the time. And by right, by MPSP definition of “Guarded Neighborhood” is that we can’t block or limit any access to owners and public. Anything against the law set by MPSP, they will take legal action if received complaint from owners/public. Again, no expensive guard can change this.

Last but not least, we bought our property as “Individual Title” mean we have our right on our property. It’s same as others normal residences only. We just abide to “Individual Title” law. Not “Strata” which most of the rules is set by management. Of course, with such rate it’s not worth to pay and I also definitely wouldn’t pay. The cost is not relevant at all. Nonsense!

@K2
First of all, I have to agree with you the monthly fees is very very very…. high, this is NOT acceptable. Secondly why u always mentioned “Strata Title / Individual Title / MPSP ….., this is nonsense, as long as more than 70% of residents agreed with the “Block”, you have to accept it although you are disagreed. The points to us is NOT want to pay or would’t pay. The main concern is have to reduce the fees which below RM70. and I think this is resonable. Forgive me if you angry when read thru my comments.

@KPC
That is what u’re very wrong. Let me correct you. The 2/3 agrrement is jz part of “syarat” for MPSP to classified our residence as “Guarded Neighbourhood (GN)”.

MPSP define “Guarded Neighbourhood (GN) boleh didefinisikan sebagai satu kawasan kediaman terkawal secara keseluruhan atau sebahagian di dalam skim-skim perumahan sediada atau baru yang pegangan tanahnya berhakmilik individu. Skim GN menyediakan perkhidmatan kawalan keselamatan sama ada dengan atau tanpa pondok pengawal. Dari segi undang-undang, ia tidak boleh mempunyai halangan fizikal di atas jalan awam dan menguatkuasakan sebarang sekatan keluar – masuk kepada penghuni dan orang ramai. Kewujudan GN adalah tidak berdasarkan kepada peruntukan mana-mana undang-undang atau peraturan. Ia hanya wujud secara ‘ad-hoc’ berdasarkan persetujuan penghuni-penghuni di sesebuah kawasan kejiranan untuk menjadikan kejiranan mereka sebagai kawasan berpengawal (guarded).”

Clearly stated no blocking allow although the residence is GN. Why? Coz everything inside our residence is own by MPSP mean it’s own by public. Mean everything is maintained by MPSP which the cost if from tax payers. Who is tax payers? Public! So how can block public to come in when the facilities/road is partly owned by them?

By what I say “Individual Title” is mean, we only owned our house. Anything outside our fence is consider under public use. Which is why grass cutting done by MPSP. Road lamp is maintained by MPSP. Road lighting electricity is by MPSP. Everything is maintained by MPSP. What we get for RM150? Just guard that take care of main entrance and also make round every hour for clocking. That all!

That is why I keep saying “Individual” and “Strata” as it’s very different. That both carried a “Tittle” mean it’s under a law. For GN there is nothing. Nothing mention “GN Title”.

It’s something that ad-hoc or just ‘VOLUNTARY” done.

@K2
Wah… Your knowledge is the area is VERY Good, every single point u can describe in details, but u have forget one Main Concern… neighbourhood relationship, If monthly fees is RM150, you can take this points to prevent NOT to pay it and is ACCEPTABLE, but if the monthly fee is around RM70(example only) and most of the residents intend to pay it and you still blah..blah..blah to take this excuse to prevent it, that means you are selfish. you are become independent at this taman, every day you go home just close the door and never communicate with your neighbour….what for ??? you waste your time to find out “Strata Title…” from MPSP, you waste your time to write the comment at this blog.. why don’t you waste your time to meet the committee and find out the solution for every residents in PS. hope you become “VOLUNTARY” for us. TQ

@KPC
as for common human being nowadays, my point of view is that evy1 is looking for something FOC. mean they wan evything by paying ntng. so, its obvious that partial of the community wont even appreciate the so called guarded concept. yet, referred to the strata/individual title, ours is guarded and strata will refer to gated and guarded which mean there wil be facility provided and fees will be slightly higher. so even most of the community agreed to pay and go for the guard, we still can option insist not to involve. so, if u mean this is selfish, yes but also no, but what else can do…

Aiyoh, you orang mis-understood K2 lah. All he is saying is RM150 too expensive lah just for guarded, guard fee and not like G n G with strata title that have facilities. If G n G, RM150 is worth it lah.
NK and KPC, would you pay if it is RM150 ?

@Christine
Thank for your explanation. Maybe my English is too deep for some. ;-P

@Christine
pls read thru our comments above #96 and #98, we have mentioned clearly We Accept K2 NOT to pay the monthly fees if RM150 (we also don’t want to pay the higher fees), but K2 never answer question from NK at #92, NK have ask is it reasonable the monthly fee is RM50-80 per household.
that means start from the 1st day, K2 already have INTENTION not to pay the monthly fees even the fees is RM50-80. He blah…blah… because he need to take this points to support his action/attitude.

@KPC
Pls read comment #95.
Clearly mentioned for Guarded Neighborhood it’s normally not more than RM90.
Mean in that range I will of course paid la… Aiyo…

My Engish too deep liao… Have to learn more Malay-Lish d. Hahaha…

@KPC
Btw why you so stress? When I just sharing info and knowledge? I didn’t defend anything here.
You say that with 2/3 majority sign then can block everyone from enter the Guarded Neighbourhood is totally wrong. It’s not a waste of time to do more research before come here blah..blah..blah… compare to those that just blah…blah..blah… without any research and no idea at all. Just empty blah…. blah… blah….

Ha…ha.. Christine, why u can’t get the points from NK & KPC, ha….. there are two sentences in mandarin for u “不怕神一樣的對手，只怕X一樣的隊友”

K2 right now became “Party Pembankang” with Committee, I think is good for us, at least can give more presure to committee, but i hope u r not just keep talking about your knowleadge and pls find the solution for it instead just keep ban of guarded community. thank you.

ok la, since the fee has been determine by the community, so we have our freedom to choose pay or not. but still, the coesequence will fall back to us. my unit im jz getting as investment, so for sure Im out of it. and stil have few days to Feb’16, so lets see if this scheme work out. people deem to live in their comfort zone, I guess there will be a probability that one day the end wall of each internal road will be hack off and the road in front of your house wil become public road since its belong to MPSP.

aiyo.. K2, right now you personal attack ah… why u can’t answer the questions from us ?
you are not willing to pay the fees is NOT due to the fee is high or low, the point is you are not willing to pay even RM50, that’s it. Am I right ?

@KPC
Pls refer to comment “#103”. Answered already. Please read carefully.

@K2
K2, since u mean RM90 you sure will pay for it, den mayb u really can just pay RM90 as part of the contribution. (I consider this is what your real mean). pay something better then ntng ma. so no point lo after u comment so lot, but end up dint pay at all…I noe in forum no ppl noe who you are, or mayb you still not even one of the community, but will have karma d leh

@NK
Same goes to you. Pls pay something better than nothing. Otherwise karma go to you also. Lol… Haha

@K2
lol…don switch topic and change the attention. u’re d one kena karma as u’re the one commited want to pay but yet NOT paying…so lets see the karma reach upon u few days after since u really dint pay as per wat u said…Gd luck. and no point playing around wording as u’re in the losing side…LOLZ

@NK
Hahaha… U’re so childish.

@K2
Of course la,im jz a kidz compare to you old man.seriously,u need to pray hard to prevent it…all d best for you

I will not pay even it is RM20/= because I don’t have the intention to stay there. I am one of the houseowner there. The guard have no right to block me or even ask me to write my name and etc. I will do a complaint to MPSP if I have difficulties going to my house. My friend house gated and guarded semi-d at Simpang Empat only pay RM120 per month with facilities like swimming pool, gyms, tennis court, beautiful garden. Our taman have 0 facilities, so RM150 per house is actually blood sucking. Is the committee trying to take the money to do something else ?

Don’t simply buy a gated property if you are not prepared to pay the maintenance
fee.

@Why
WHY – Taman Santuari is not a guarded and gated property. That is why I choose to buy house at this taman because there wasn’t a need to pay monthly maintenance fee. For those who want to pay RM150, I advise go and buy guarded and gated property.

that’s reason why nowadays people choose rather stay in their home, shut the door and not getting noeing any1 else throughout the year. but I think tis selfishness would get themselves rich a day by suxking in all the money without paying anything. so glad that ppl now are realistic and nt even shame to admit it.

@NK
5 years ago, I also paid for guard services with RM80 per month. Guess what, my house also break-in at around 3 pm and luckily my neighbor notice it. Luckily only my sliding door grill pad lock is damage. Confront the guard, guess what the guard said . . “kita bukan 24 jam jaga di depan rumah, satu jam round satu kali, tak boleh guarantee 100% no break-in. Guard post sahaja kita jaga 24 jam. Guard post paling selamat”. We ask for corrective action – solution is “naik harga, tambah lagi 2 guard, 30 mins ronda satu kali”. The guard post still there but now is empty. The taman now is safer because the taman is now more than 10 years old.

received sms. seen that over 50+ residences have paid for the maintainance fee. RM150 x 50 = RM7,500. even both my neighbour also paid ad. very nice community we have here.

@CS
Yes. That’s correct. Those want to have guard and security as compulsory thing please go buy Gated and Guarded property. No need to come buy normal Individual title house and dream of GnG property lifestyle. I also advise those go study what is “Individual Title” and also what is “Strata Title”. Don’t keep dream… Face the fact. I know it’s always hurt to face fact. But face it.

@NK
RM7500 is more than enough to hire 5 guards (RM1000 per person) to run 24 * 7 shifts. The balance RM2500 can give to guard services company as profit. Congratulation !!!

@K2
Asking people to pay is not a one time job. So, let see whether the committee have the strength and energy to go round and ask people to pay every month. May be, they have energy for few months. Later boh lat liao . . and will said this job is suck !! and they may be start to regret for not buying gated and guarded property. Now to buy new house – boh lui liao.

@CS

pls la,ur assumption is totally wrong. RM1000/24/30 = RM1.38/ hour/ pax??? where go find so cheap labour? pls be reasonable la. 7.5k the most can hired 2 security with 24hr routes only.

@NK
I think you are hiring graduates to do security job – 7.5 per month for 2 security. Are you joking? may be should ask my son to apply for this job and resign his current 2 months job as engineer. His salary only RM2700. Any, the security company will give you Bangladesh guard with starting pay RM900 per month and work for 8 to 10 hours per day with no OT and no EPF. If you want, I can give you my current guard hand phone #. This guard only collect RM50 per month. Out of 440 houses, only about 140 houses paid for the services.

@CS
I think your math got problem, don’t understand NK talk about, terrible !

@CS

let refer back to you post. would u mind tell us how to hired 5 security with RM1000/each by using 24 hours routes? let see your ans and I jz play with you ^^

@CS
Yea lo… Keep forcing residents to pay just like “Ah Long”. If I keep get disturbed by them, I’ll proceed to make police report. As I didn’t owe them anything as well. As I bought the property under my self and didn’t make any agreement with the RA as well. I know my rights, so please respect each others privacy and rights. Otherwise please see at Police station or courts.

@K2

would u mind state which no. and lorong you are staying? I jz wan to gather voices from all who r not paying to object this function. besides, after all they wont keep on disturb you again. this is a win win situation which you not even ned to do anything to get what you deserve.

@K2
Buy the property should be happy, when we sleep think of our dream house, we can smile.
But from your statement, u are “tu-lan” even when you sleep…Police station…courts… for what ?
you buy the property than you gaduh with your neighbours. it’s worth ?

@Ah Long
Let see how long they can tahan to become ‘Ah Long’ – every month need to call people to pay is no joke job. K2, you don’t play, the ah long will splash paint onto your watch. Watch our please !!! ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

K2 , you don’t pay, the ah long will splash paint onto your house. Watch out please … ha ha ha !!!

@ CS, don’t pura-pura dint see my msg leh. the simple math calc wont slam u down rite?

@NK
I have doubt with you. At beginning you said you will not pay as your property is just for investment. Now you talk like you’re RA and like you’re paying. So dishonest resident are you? Awhile you say A, awhile you say B. I think you just trying to stir the water only.

@K2,
what u think is true. in fact, I really dint pay. but it doesn’t stop me from asking others to pay. there’s no rule tat I dint pay but I cant get others to pay. besides, we still have some math error to solve…fan lai lo

@NK
You need to think like a businessman and count like a businessman. If I am the security company, I will just hire 5 additional security, 3 guard at post – shift rotation. when the guard on their rest day, the other 2 guard will take over. For roda the taman, I will use the shared guard that do the rotation where these guard will rotate a few taman. For this small guard companies, usually, they don’t follow minimum wages and if they hired illegal workers, salary is even lower maybe paid by hour.

If you used the degree holder calculation, you will need to hire at least 8 guards, at least paid minimum wages, every extra hour work, pay OT, no illegal workers and so on . .

One Question for you guys, Today I have Drive in the taman (opposite Hill Park, Don’t know the taman name), the Guard have stop me to take my personal details, after that he request to hold my licence before let me enter, I have argue with him, i say that you can take down my personal details but you have no right to hold my licence or IC, After i exit the Taman, I argue this points with him, his answer is next time I park my car outside the guard house than OK.

To Admin, Is’t the Guard have authority to hold our licence ? what to do? Or am I wrong ?
Tq

@XYZ
If the taman is gated and guarded, the guard has the right not to allow you to go in. But if the taman is just guarded type, like taman santuari, then the guard do not have the authority or stop you from going in.

Heard the fee reduced to RM100. RM50 reduction !! Registration is RM50. Why need registration ? Anyway, still very very expensive. Pearl Garden with full facilities – swimming pool, squash, gym room and community hall – the management team only collect RM135.

@CS

if all residence are paying, the fee sure will reduce. Fee is high bcz still a lot staying by paying ntng and asking everything.

Hi, what is the selling and renting price for this area?

I don’t think it is legal for the guard to ask for driving license or IC before entering. They are not suppose to erect a boom gate without 1st getting permission from MPSP (which I doubt they do as consent from all the residents is required).

Hi, potential buyer here. To residents in Phase 1 and Phase2, just wanna ask whether you guys face any fly problems or intolerable smell? I went to the sales gallery today, got smell but din happen to see flies there. Would appreciate your feedback. Thanks

@VG
I’ve been there a few times and the smell at the sales gallery is more persistent. In phase 1, there is occasionally some smell depends on the wind direction. Anyhow there is some distance from the chicken farm to the house I visited, the smell may be stronger nearer to the chicken farm.

Very nice enviroment .

How much people sales the Semi D ( Sancturay Garden) ? What is the original price ?

hi all phase 1 residents, do you guys still facing land sinking issue on the garden area?

anyone plans to sell or rent out your unit? kindly let me know. thanks. #noagent