Talk is always easy but where’s the moneys moneys ? Moreover, the whole is in a critical situation where disaster is brewing silently ! Can we Malaysia gets away from the macro conditions ?

All is just gimmick to be recycled every 5 years

Just listen will do since it will repeated every 5 years before and after election.

So we go back to feasibility study again on under ground and under sea?
Still remember the feasibility study on undersea tunnel? Forever show 9x.xx% which could never reach 100%.

@LL
After 5 years says: oh it is not workable, we will look for on the ground

Prior to approving any further housing projects, it is essential that we address the existing traffic congestion issues. For instance, if we take a look at the situation in Sg Ara, we can observe that multiple condominiums have been constructed over the past decade. However, the road infrastructure has not seen corresponding improvements, leading to increased traffic woes for the residents.

@ssspring
I fully agree with you that the master planning there is horrendous.
It’s getting worse now day by day !

I will only believe this “recycle story” when actual work being carried out as promised. As for now, let’s see what would be the next excuses this year end.

Like children playing games, sekejap ini, sekejap itu.

You don’t need rocket size to know where the jam spot is, we have got something called Google map nowadays.

Let me give a suggestion, how about solving the congestion at Prai to Permatang Pauh area?
Do you know the 5pm onward jam for Bayan Lepas area actually origin from Prai to the bridge until FTZ?

I don’t know why everything still has to originate from Komtar nowadays because LRT makes for those work in Komtar only, is it?

Go start from Prai why not?
1. No need worry of Unesco area
2. Plenty of empty land, fly as u can, dig what underground?
3. Lesser land/building to compensate for migration
4. Make good of Prai infrastructure so you balance up property demand and supply of both side, people no need purposely buy mainland and come island to work = lesser jam.

Need to think out of the box, Johor-SG has proven that no matter how many lanes u create also not enough ones as long as both sides are imbalanced in terms of economy and supply-demand.

@Shirley EeKen

After all these years, I start to think that flying carpet could be more realistic than Penang LRT.

And when LRT is not workable, they will propose idea such as water taxi from gurney / jetty to FIZ

Should just focus on the initial plan first ,ie from komtar to airport.
After completion this line, then think of extension to mainland.
I previously as a Singapore PR, their mrt line also started a single line first from north to south, then after some years later only did extension to other lines.
They took 10 years to design n planning, 5 years to complete and in operation.
Don’t forget that’s was 1970+ to 1980+ time, nowadays with better equipped should take shorter time.
There is a saying that too many cooks spoil the soup ,that reflects the situation now.

Speaking about Singapore PR experience, Penang State Government can also consider ERP gantry idea along with the LRT/Transport Master Plan. This will incentivize the people to use more public transport.

@visitor

This subject to how strict is our execution. There are reasons why we still using palang to stop, no pay = cannot go, no need so a headache although less efficient.

Imagine we use ERP gantry like Singapore:
1. People straight pass without paying
2. Officer saman -> refuse to pay coz no money, want discount this that
3. Gantung License if don’t want to pay -> omg help i can’t live without transport, need work nak cari makan
4. Waste extra manpower to go saman and execution, somemore not efficient because we always fail to strict in this.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2019/11/08/penang-lrt-to-lose-rm11-mil-in-first-year-to-break-even-in-its-5th-year/

Even before building the LRT, already seeing that the LRT will lose money until end of year4.
Clearly, they have ridership problem. Long run, they need federal gov to inject money to run the LRT.

If they are not addressing the ridership, i wonder how the state gov is going to sustain and upkeep the infrastructure.

@visitor

According to Kishore Mahbubani (Singapore Senior Advisor), Singapore also forecasted or rather expected initial operational losses during their investment in the MRT lines, but now they have one of the most efficient MRT lines in the world. Look at at it as a long term investment and look far for the progress and the benefit of people.

I agree with you, we need to see it as a long-term plan. Current solutions like widening and building more highways will serve as temporary methods to ease the traffic but the traffic will return bad very fast as the population keeps growing and more vehicles are on the road. LRT and MRT will be the future efficient transportation. Ridership will pick up once people see the benefit of taking efficient public transportation rather than driving cars and stuck in non-moving traffic.

Falcon :
@visitor
According to Kishore Mahbubani (Singapore Senior Advisor), Singapore also forecasted or rather expected initial operational losses during their investment in the MRT lines, but now they have one of the most efficient MRT lines in the world. Look at at it as a long term investment and look far for the progress and the benefit of people.

Hope they execute soonest possible and stop asking public reviews and opinions. No need more cost assessment, it will be loss economically down the road. The affordable bunches continue commute in their cars. Their tenants will help them utilize the LRT ok. Frankly, those who support this project expects high rental return and higher property sales prices. Noted that, most of pg folks owned few properties -2, 3 to 4 units apartments & condo or shop leased at the moment. If we make more money, i will say this benefit the people lor.