tree sparina subsale will have even harder time to sell now. so many units for sale but no buyer. price too high.

Amarene should be launched lower than 600k to attract buyers

Steph Ah Leong

this is crazy price

those good days has gone. no room for goreng property now.

Looks like Penang developers are still willing to budge, I’ve seen some KL developers now shifting to selling more affordable homes and sales have been pretty good, just need to know how to play around with designs and space.

@stephanie
I find it contradicting/confusing when you said that tree sparina subsale will be harder and the amarene shd launch lower than 600k. What are you trying to imply actually? You don’t want to buy tree sparina subsale because it’s more than 600k? or you want to buy the amarene but at a lower price than tree sparina subsale?

@steven
Conclusion is : 600k+ property with 1100sqf can’t sell at that area, too many units awaiting for sale but no demand. Look at the 1st completed condo around that area(Fiera Vista)with ~1500sqf units, you’ll understand what is the price range.

Truth :
@steven
Conclusion is : 600k+ property with 1100sqf can’t sell at that area, too many units awaiting for sale but no demand. Look at the 1st completed condo around that area(Fiera Vista)with ~1500sqf units, you’ll understand what is the price range.

yup

tree sparina dropping price…. now even asking 550-580k for 1130sqft but still hard to find buyers. all in becase after adding all cost… legal and transfer, cost will become rm650k just for 1130sqft and if renovate/furnish rm100k, 750K. How to sell in future id you are subsale buyer? can sell at rm850K? impossible right?

ah leong stephanie

@steph
and your point is to ask the amarene to sell below 600k to make your own gain?

@steph
Imperial Grande suits you better…

steph better stay at jungle. tree house is free.

This story told u new property price will keep increase, subsale will keep decrease due to investor cant hold anymore or bank tarik

@==

Yup. Trend now is buy from subsale, cheaper than developer one. Some more, can see the actual condition of the unit plus view before commit to buy.

@==
I am not agree with your statement, new property will eventually turn to sub-sale, so, what is the difference? why new property has to be up, what is the momentum to support this trend? think twice.

new sale can wait but sub sale cannot wait. tat why sub sale price is below than the new sale price. happy hunting for subsale rock bottom price, its a buyer market now, make sure u slash 20 percent of the quoted price.

pro n cons

unit facing airport

plane noise… still acceptable/ mosque and flats surau, big indah water sewerage/

unit facing main road tun Awang
mat rempit
traffic noise
dusty

Too expensive, never consider to buy

TreeSparina buyer have problem with developer.
Pls check the story.

@TBR Buyer
what problem?
as i know a lot water leaking issue from bathroom

Ideal property ah.. really Ideal lah…
Gimme free I also dont want laa..
Quality so inferior…
Aduh…

pool has been dirty for the past one week.

Float area?

Better run from Ideal project, looked at Solaria Residences, their reputation is gone. Poor designed and the brochure and actual is completely different. Inside the house there are many piping and damn it.. this is low cost quality but we are paying close to RM600k just for the lousy product produce by Ideal Property…

@SL
same goes to Solaria buyers, no more Ideal Project, damn lousy and expensive and we are not getting the quality that we paid for. If you have not buy, my advise to you is look for other projects.

I plan to cancel their Queens Waterfront. I dare not put my money in …. !!

Very Good Project

email me for details

pm me

what is so good?
oversupply flats like project. Just look at Tree Sparina…. like low cost flats design with so many defects, leaking here and there…. and all units almost empty…. already oversupply area with future asking price

@Nonsense
hey Nonsense…sounds like you’re trying to talk bad on Tree Sparina and Amarene….either you’re just a tenant or a sour grape loser who couldn’t afford one!!

@anti-non
i think Nonsense bought Solaria that looks like flat but calling others flat…what a joke!

There are many other more qualified developers’ projects than Ideal. Use your judgement & do more survey before buying.

Ideal very good… Very nice project done by Ideal…

Ideal very shit… always build shit quality project

look for other developer other than Ideal. Bad building quality and watch out for the accounts after handover of keys. Need strong owners and a good management company to manage..

i would never buy from Ideal again …

@CC
agree with you. look at tree sparina. lift flooring covered by wooden plywood which is broken for so long and no repairs were made. Safety of residents not taken into consideration.

Ideal Property sucks!!!!!!

@Ng

Hahaha….I bet you’re one of the buyers of Solaria Residences. Somehow the main-con and project PIC really screwed it up big time for Ideal in this project. They got the best artist for the brochure who did an excellent job in drawing the “artist impression” but the worst architect who design the real thing that has that “low-cost” look. The architect really missed out just the few minor but very critical design components which would make the building either look “low-cost” or “high-class”.

The opposite happened at Tree Sparina. They got a very lousy illustration artist who made the project look like low cost flats on brochure, but grade A architect who produced high class looking actual end products.

@bigfagina
but tree sparina in an african world. and many low class ppl. swim naked also got

@tyes

africans and naked swimmers cannot blame developer liao lah, that’s up to owners/MC to come up with proper house rules to address issues.

@bigfabina

Ideal use own in-house architect to build the Solaria building but asked an external architect firm to sign off certificate of progressive completion. Is this allowable?

Anyway, just wan to welcome those new buyers of Ideal projects to the club! …..Hahahaaaa!!!…

any update on this project? how is the sales ? heard that SNP signing will be on may/june.

@tyes
Fiera Vista, Elit Heights, The Arena, The Promenade, you name it….all also got Africans…why you only want to find fault with Tree Sparina? Lu beh syiok hamik?
The Golden Triangle, BJC, Lavender series…semua ada bangla….you mau apa bikin?

@tayar
I think tyes is from solaria. Trying to make solaria more high class than tree sparina. Kah kah kah.

if you understand Africans mentality, they only will occupy high standard condos and not cheap ones. so, if you do not see any Africans at your condo, means it’s low class to them!

Anyone had pay deposits for this unit? Any group chat has been created? If yes, please PM me. Thanks…

Hi all, I have no experience on property. Just wondering is this project worth for own stay?

hmm, 640k minimum (after all rebate and 10% waived), for 1100 sqft, the price is quite high.
definitely a NO for 1200sqft – facing the afternoon sun, the dual key concept is suxx…. mostly this concept is to allow buyer to rent out the masterbedroom separately.

Hi all, may i know this project will get any reduction after SST implementation? Thanks in advanced.

Anyone has signed the snp?

Hi all..

Is there a chat group created for The Amarene? for updates, communication among buyers & all..

Thank you

@Yew
i’m looking for that too. Seem like don’t have any yet. 😀

@Kk
I will be signing the SPA next week.

Any chat group created for The Amarene?

Kk :
Any chat group created for The Amarene?

I think its because it is still too soon to create, because most people not yet sign SPA, with SPA can verify one is Amarene resident or not.. if you check in SummerSkye page, there is one guy requesting SPA & creating a chat group, I think must be the SummerSkye management guy..

Hi all, actually we just need one person to create and facilitate the chat group. I can volunteer for this =) in the future , will pass the chat group to the Management/Committee to continue facilitating.

Please e-mail me your SPA front cover, only require owner name & unit number for verification. Please blur your IC number or etc. Do include your contact number.

E-mail : amarener@yahoo.com

Hi all, I just got to know that the stamped SPA will only be obtained later on after signing.. we can use booking form as verification document to add in chat group as for now, please e-mail me & will communicate from there. Thank you.

E-mail : amarener@yahoo.com

hi all, is anyone here getting stamped SPA already?

Hi guys, plan to buy amarene, any good or bad feedback ?

Normally how u guy find other buyers contact whom buy the same project ? So far only developer have the buyers contact but will they give to us ?

@Joey, if you are future Amarene Resident?, kindly E-mail amarener@yahoo.com

Thank you

@Yew
Hi Yew, i have send the email to join the resident group, no reply from you?

@firacintus7 Very sorry for the delay, I have added you accordingly. Thank you.

@Yew
hi Yew, i have sent you the email too. Could you pls add me into the group? thanks

Steven :
Hi Yew, already resend pls check. I confirmed again the email is correct amarener@yahoo.com do you have check the junk mail?

You are right Steven, the E-mail is in my junk/spam mail..
Thanks for the tip, will double-check junk/spam inbox in the future.
I have added you accordingly in the chat group. Thank you.

Beware of cheaper unit might coming out from developer when the condo is done or going to be done.. Very unfair to those who buy during early bird and new launch. You may get a better deal when done, save progressive interest somemore.

Just noticed that this project construction work stopped.

Developer should also look into potential serviced apartment with retirement home concept from Hong Kong or other countries, with built in medical attention and nursing facility. Instead of overwhelm the markets with ‘the same as others’ residential concepts.

@SeniorCitizen
Would you elaborate more on this retirement home concept? what are the services available at these homes other than medical and nursing?

@laulang
1. Luxury living with club house like facilities, in-house clinic, modern and not like those current miserable old folks home which like a waiting place to next life for seniors. Room service included catering service, shuttle service, routine doctor / nurse visit or checkup. Fabulouse for seniors to come together and live in this community enjoying their. Joint venture with EPF and insurance companies to fund this project for long term development and investment for affordability.

2. Young gen can also buy, invest for themselves or parents when time come to check-in into this property. Children can place their parents into a much well supervised and services conditions

SeniorCitizen :
@laulang
1. Luxury living with club house like facilities, in-house clinic, modern and not like those current miserable old folks home which like a waiting place to next life for seniors. Room service included catering service, shuttle service, routine doctor / nurse visit or checkup, emergency room intercom or call request and etc. Fabulouse for seniors to come together and live in this community enjoying their life. Joint venture with EPF and insurance companies to fund this project for long term development and investment for affordability.
2. Young gen can also buy, invest for themselves or parents when time come to check-in into this property or rent out to certain tenants who not wished to own one. Children can place their parents into a much welcomed environment of luxury apartment like retirement living than certain old folks home, well supervised and serviced
conditions with peace of mind

@SeniorCitizen
So all in all, what you need is nothing more than a luxury condo that provides the services of club facilities, in-house clinic, shuttle bus, room service and emergency support. Anything else?

Hi laulang & SeniorCitizen..
Your suggestions are very good, even better if you can directly E-mail to Ideal office so that your suggestion can be processed.

Ideal office E-mail : ipisales@idealhomes.cc

Thank you

My loan just approved before the lock down period and just noticed this page 2 days ago. It’s seem that there are alot of negative comment on ideal dev and amarene project. I still haven’t signed on Spa, anyone here can give valuable advice pls.

I may be able to share with you some info, but before that, maybe you can share the reason you chose this project initially. And is it for own stay or investment?

@Cred
So it seems you have actually carefully thought things through, comparing location, facilities, price and finally made your choice. I suppose you’re getting freaked out by a few negative comments above, regarding “a lot of water leakage” and “poor aesthetic external design for Solaris”.

Well, regarding water leakage, I had that problem with an E&O built property too, so what do you expect from Ideal? As for Solaris, I guess it happens once in a while for Msian developers, so I’d say no big deal.

In Penang, if you want top quality developer, that would be Bellview, but be prepared to forkout top dollars too, above RM1300/sf. So the bottom line is, luck plays an important role when it comes to buying a property in Penang. For the same developer, sometimes you get good quality end product, and sometimes you don’t, depends on which sub-con you get.

But one thing you can do for sure, make sure you check your house carefully for defects during the defect liability period. The developer is liable to fix the defects for you, failing which, you can bring it up to the tribunal court costing you just a few ringgit of admin fees, and you don’t even have to hire a lawyer. There is no escape for the developer anyway. So take your time and weigh your options again before signing the S&P.

@janet Thanks for your valuable advice.

janet :
@Cred
So it seems you have actually carefully thought things through, comparing location, facilities, price and finally made your choice. I suppose you’re getting freaked out by a few negative comments above, regarding “a lot of water leakage” and “poor aesthetic external design for Solaris”.
Well, regarding water leakage, I had that problem with an E&O built property too, so what do you expect from Ideal? As for Solaris, I guess it happens once in a while for Msian developers, so I’d say no big deal.
In Penang, if you want top quality developer, that would be Bellview, but be prepared to forkout top dollars too, above RM1300/sf. So the bottom line is, luck plays an important role when it comes to buying a property in Penang. For the same developer, sometimes you get good quality end product, and sometimes you don’t, depends on which sub-con you get.
But one thing you can do for sure, make sure you check your house carefully for defects during the defect liability period. The developer is liable to fix the defects for you, failing which, you can bring it up to the tribunal court costing you just a few ringgit of admin fees, and you don’t even have to hire a lawyer. There is no escape for the developer anyway. So take your time and weigh your options again before signing the S&P.

Good, informative & unbiased comment Janet *Thumbs up*

Cred :
@janet Thanks for your valuable advice.

Cred : My input is, do not believe in comments without sources, do research from reliable sources or people you know personally, info from any chat groups can be fabricated easily.. for all you know, it is written by an opposing person to the project.

M&M :
Just noticed that this project construction work stopped.

Update : If you view from the main road (Jalan Tun Dr Awang), development is slower (Shoplots construction) but if you view from inner road (Jalan Sungai Tiram 6) you will see a lot of developments.. you can picture updates in FB page.. Residential units has started construction as of March 2020..

We do have a FB discussion Group. Feel free to join us!! ^.^

Hi, anyone know can the 1200sqft dual key wall be renovated to door?

Dont believe what nay sayers say. Trust your own feel. This area is good and strategic, next to summerskye and easily accesible to FTZ, airport. Its a good buy

tan :
Hi, anyone know can the 1200sqft dual key wall be renovated to door?

There is a portion of the wall which is allowed to be hacked, so that you can make an entrance between the living room & the second master bedroom..

Hi,
I just submitted application for Amarene. This is my 1st property and for own stay.

Haven’t signed yet

Very nervous seeing so many negative comments.

Is there already a group chat available for Amarene purchasers?

Thanks

T :
Hi,
I just submitted application for Amarene. This is my 1st property and for own stay.
Haven’t signed yet
Very nervous seeing so many negative comments.
Is there already a group chat available for Amarene purchasers?
Thanks

HI T..

There is a chat group that has been created and we are active in discussions.

You can E-mail to amarener@yahoo.com first & we will proceed from there.

Thank you

I am planning to buy one unit as this condo nearer to my office.. Anyone have suggestions, should i buy or not? First time buying at island.

Own stay ? Ok la location not bad.

@Mahesh
everything leaking… even car park area

bad workmanship

@layimm
Sorry. Can you be specific on the problem mentioned? We would like to know also as a buyer. Is your house unit water leaking? Which part? Water mark? How about car park area? Is the water pipe leaking or swmining pool water leaking?

it’s going to be a good buy!
location is good. you have 3 access road to the project..from tun dr awang, and 2 from jln sultan azlan shah…
surrounding area already developed and mainly landed property and low rise. other than tree sparina and summersky and now lucerne, there is no other obstruction. in fact all all these tall building is side by side and not affecting your view… if this turns out good, if you missed watch out for lucerne next door

@FrankC
Is the workmanship good? How about the quality?
Seen like many people unhappy with finishing? And even lobby door also many people complain as provide only grill door?
Many water leaking in unit? Is developer fix?
Can anyone share their experience as we are looking for new project next of it.. Thanks in advance..

Hi all, i am one of the amarene resident. I bought amarene because of the location near to workplace despite i saw many bad review on Ideal condo, another reason is I see summerskype has no bad review. But TBH, i feel regret now, as what mention by other owner from imperial grande / one imperial etc, the management (Po**tive Upa**) assigned by Ideal is not doing their job as management! It has been few months i move in to this condo, i am tired to deal with irresponsive ideal office and management, they like to play taichi and even rude in talking, i feel so disappointed of paying all the fee but unable to get the equivalent of service. You should witness by yourself, security guards on duty sleeping with leg on table during daytime near to lobby lift entrance, and this occur not only one time, security guards smoking inside resident lifts, RATS running around facility floor, even the lobby is so dirty and smelly, i really paiseh to show my new bought condo to my friend who visiting me. Please think twice if you want to buy ideal condo, make sure the management assigned is not (Po**tive Upa**)

@kelvin
I see. I thought Amarene got a quality & poor workmanship issue in finishing. If no quality issue then is fine. Later residences can form a JMB to manage it.
Many people mention Queens waterfront by Ideal with great finishing & good facility & management too. Probably different category of product.

You will need to fight with management very hard only can get your defect rectify, or else, you will need to issue formal complaint letter to Ideal office. I witnessed the contractor top up water in my bathroom while i re-do my water ponding test, i catched them on the spot, they were shocked at first, but immediately talked very rude to me and tried to give lame reasons of why topping up water for my water pond test. Since January until now, i am so busy to deal with management for all those issue that they suppose to know how to solve, their ignorance make me regret of buying amarene. Please think wisely, no matter how attractive is the facilities and no matter how good is the workmanship, 3 years management by Po**tive Upa** will definitely spoil of your condo and the consequence is, you will be asked to pay more monthly maintenance fee for nothing. You should actually come to amarene and witness by yourself, see the rats here and there, smelly, and how they defined “gated and guarded”, how they jeopardize resident’s safety, see Management by Po**tive Upa** is so reluctant to settle even a small issue.

I want to sell my unit, anyone here want to purchase please contact me.

@kelvin
Can you leave your contact here? I believe JMB should form as soon as possible to put pressure to developer.

James Tee :
@kelvin
Can you leave your contact here? I believe JMB should form as soon as possible to put pressure to developer.

who are you ? why you said so ?

@cindy woo
I’m not owner but potential buyer.
If you familiar with all new condo.
Now still under JMC as holding management by developer.
Buyers need to form an active pre-JMB committee as soon as possible so that we can put pressure to developer.
I’m not sure if this is done or not or plan already by all buyers of Amarene. However, it’s good to have all this to form & push developer. We need a strong committee here to fight.

@James Tee I bought an Amarene unit at 650k, now done renovation and defects done rectified, i would like to sell it at 750k, are you interested?

Looking for raw unit without renovation. Direct owners only, let me know. Will let you know how to get my contact.

@JustinLeong
I have 1 unit. Direct owner. Let me know then can negotiate.
Can you share your contact?

@kelvin
Looking for urgent sell or below market price only..

Wow, suddenly many sales talk for Ideal properties, Penang Property Talk website can get some commission? 😛

@kelvin
Wow 750k then i rather wait for Lucerne than Amarene.
I believed this is improve version of Amarene. Quality will be better.

@Yew
I want to join group chat and just sent you email. Thanks.

GUYS, I AM SO PISSED OFF AS THERE IS SERIOUS INCIDENT AFFECTING THE WHOLE TOWER 1 BLOCK AMARENE WAS HAPPENED LAST NIGHT! The top level of the building with TANGKI PIPE BURSTING AND CAUSED “DOWNPOUR” LAST NIGHT, I WITNESSED MYSELF THE WATER SPLASHED FROM TOP TANGKI ALL THE WAY FROM LEVEL 35 TO LEVEL 6 FACILITIES FLOOR AND CAUSED SERIOUS FLOODING TO LOWER LEVEL UNITS!!!

I ALREADY TOOK VIDEO FOR EVIDENCE AND SENT TO IDEAL. WHY SHOULD I PAY 600K++ FOR THIS KIND OF SIBEH LOUSY QUALITY FROM LOUSY IDEAL DEVELOPER. PLS ANYONE CAN HELP ME OR NOT? I HAVE HAD ENOUGH WITH ALL THESE “SHOCKING” INCIDENTS HAPPENED EVERY MONTHS!

ONE OF THE RESIDENT IN GRP CHAT EVEN COMPLAINT THE DEVELOPER WRONGLY INSTALL THE EARTH WIRE WITH LIVE WIRE AFFECTING HER WHOLE UNIT, NOW HER UNIT TAKE MONTHS TO HACK AND RESTRUCTURE BACK THE WIRING!

ALL THESE ARE SO STUPID MISTAKE, IDEAL DEVELOPER IS NOT EXPERIENCE AT ALL! POSITIVE UPAYA MANAGEMENT STAFFS HAVE NO MANNER ACT LIKE SAMSENG!

@Susan
Wow. You have free waterfall here.
Why post in forum? What is the motif?
Just keep among your residence form a group committee & fight for owners right.

@Susan

OMG! you should viral in FB & let the public to avoid this developer. All these are the people hard earn money to buy a home.

@Jack
What’s ur motive then? U r the IDEAL SAMSENG?

@The Zen Development
The Zen development is the best in Asia pacific. Later we will viral once completed. Interested to see any ah tu ah kau inside many for sure. Even corridor also 5ft only like low cost development. XD

@The Zen Development

Logically thinking those owner who bought their condo should know how to value their property. This is not a right forum to ask for help. As a owner of the said property, they should form a committe & push management for corrective permanent solution.
Since he/she already took the video then go ahead & complain management & if Kurang Upaya team no response then go ahead wrong letter or advise some lawyer to sue them. I wondering if real owner just to complain here or just somebody to make some ghost story here since is Chinese ghost month.
Probably TheZen development ghost also here to act like Samseng here. XD

@The Zen Development
What is your motif then? You are The Zen Samseng KIA?
Go back build your Condom so slow many year already.

@Jack
I want everyone know about this, i knew i couldnt sell my unit out if get bad reputation on amarene, but at least i want everyone to know, so that no one will buy from ideal, Ideal only care about money, they dont care even we complaint to CEO! I hope anyone here who with expertise can voice out how to sue the developer and management !

And guys! The tangki pipe bursting again , we are now experiencing another “downpour”! Belum sampai 24 jams it reoccuring and tons of water are wasted like this! Stupid management! They dont even reply our message dont even border to investigate and explain why! We will sure sue die positive upaya and ideal!

@Susan
I can see many buyers in Amarene are immature. The way they acted & responded to problem just purely emotional. Nobody will care if you voice out in here. If you want everyone know just go to their facebook comment so that everyone know. Save those buyers. Not here. Similar cases of tropicana buyer in KL paying 5million condo & not happy with house condition received so just smash damage his unit everything. End of the day developer will not bare & buyer owner need take yourself money to settle.And please get lawyer to send reminder follow up with them what is their action &urgency in this matter. If still not moving then just write a letter on behalf of your residence to MBPP. Then raise up the concern to them regard of concern of building structure with proof. Then they will find management for a visit & enforcement. Management will feel pressure on that.

Guys

Rilex & Chillex

@Jack
Jack, do you mind to list down in details the procedure of legal actions required? Like should go to which tribunal? Any form required to fill in ? It will be beneficial to all the first home buyer, at least to learn.

@Jack
Jack & Jill, if you are so mature, care to advice how to go about to improve all these defects before warranty period ? Can suggest the specific government department or relevant authorities? No need to refer to all those high end condos like Tropicana as we bought from Ideal, hence our deal is only with Ideal.

Also can you advice how not to get Positive Upaya to cover for Ideal all the time but put residents first?