I just wondering still projects going on…how good is the sales since the market so slow

And so high density one block 420 units….

No money buy pls quiet

with Imperial residents with 1100sqt now going for RM460k …i bet this could be lesser than that. But the reality that one need to ask for is are there really a demand for such high density condos? SG ARA is flooded with too many condos and it really depreciated the values of high end condos.

@andy
where you get 1100sqt for rm460k?

Sg Ara & Relau condos already oversupplied cause selling prices dropped where got buyers ???

a good move, we need more projects to make the price decrease.

Do you all think that the oversupply of condo in penang island can stabilised the pricing? (at least no big fluctuation) How about in the next 5 years time down the road? Buying a property is for the future not for today.

Oversupply, no oversupply, I bet the price in sqft will be higher compare to IR just like IR price is higher than one imperial. Use figure.

When the supply is there and the investors are unable to hold it anymore, that is the time to grab a unit. so hopefully more condos are coming soon to that area.

LOL Vic Market Slow. You really know this market ?

try sell RM300 psf, sure sapu all in few days, no market or no water fish? is gt market but no money to buy, is over price not over supply, no value gt market, gt value no market, and no more water fish in market, so gt alot empty units, u try sell original price sure gt market, in short is gt market but no water fish haha

@KJ Wong
Survey around you can easily find one. I would rather prefer One Imperial or Imperial Residence much more lower density compare to Imperial Grande.

One Imperial sits on 9.1 acres land, 5 towers, I think one of the tower is independent..tower C ?

Imperial Residences (816 units) on a 6 acres site. Imperial Grande is 938 units ! Figure it out yourself which one to pick.

Heard that there is no more Chinese secondary school at that area.

Anyone know what is the plan to replace it?

on and off there are units selling at 450 sqft or lower, this will continue. the price is much dependent on the holding cost for the units. if you are not in the hurry, wait and hunt would be the strategy. with the interest rate looking up, you will have at least 3 years before investor looking into property market again.

enquired the detail from office, 1000sqft with 478k – 13units per block (5+1 lifts), total 45 floors with 2 floors shoplot, 7floors car park and 10th-45th floor house. Shoplot will be only lease out and still own by developer

Is this worth to buy with this price?
btw, anyone know is this free s&p and legal fee?

@firsttimebuyer
yes free S&P and legal fee

Wanna know is the house assessment commercial or residential rate?

Residential

How’s the respond for this project ? Is that worth for investment ?

Is the MOT is covered? How much need to pay for MOT?

Good landscape design, big pool.

But too high density! Is the density plot get revised to such high density ?

Strategic location with 31 club house facilities.

is it a commercial title or residential title?

Is it worth to buy at rm475 psf at this area?

@low is under residential title Low

GSD Senzo inside that area still have 40% units left & Iconic have 30% units waiting for the buyers. Too many condos in this area, some more the affordable project beside the Setia Pinnacle is coming very soon by BSG developer. Can imagine that the next 5 years this area become clowded and complicated, super high density & no worth to buy. More than 20 high rise building surrounded at this place.

waiting for affordable unit allocated wait till old already. better buy directly without waiting gvt assigned, price almost same with affordable. best thing can chose the unit prefer. So why not, as long as surrounded with those accessible amenities! Ya, i bought already

ooo..yaa….those who like low density and low maintenance fee should go for properties at balik pulau.

Super high density can means that the area is in high demand for houses…I think this area is super convenient to get access to restaurant, bank and shops.

938 units is really super duper high density. Imagine the roads choking up, now it’s already very very choked.Even with a low occupancy among all the present completed ones. Those who have stayed in this area more than 10 years will know that from a big vegetable plot it has been ridiculously choked to the maximun. Not really many new restaurants other than at Golden Triangle. Other than that are those really very old restaurants across the other side of the main road.
Not a single bank around. Nearest 2 banks are Maybank & Public Bank only across Spice Arena.

The present main road & surrounding feeder roads are ridiculously jammed up daily. Just getting out either to Sg Ara or Bukit Jambul is a real headache daily.

@super duper density

Dear bro, jammed or not jammed depend on how u go from familiar of the road or not , im staying here for more than 20 years but i did not feel jam becoz i know which road i have to use, already have new road here , we also already sold alot

This area is a foreign workers heaven place, bus kilang park every where at Imperial Res., One Imp., Sierra, Garden Ville, Lavendar Indaman, Skycube & Zain Pavillion outer ring road. Every morning and evening can see some foreigner group by group walk along this road. In future can become a 2nd 88 in this area, pls think twice before buy but luckily Imperial Grande is more near to main road

I prefer buy Golden Triangle 2 which is more low dence and near to Sg.Ara main road can prevent the sudden flood at Relau area

Here is a super congested, crowded, high dense, traffic jam, heavy flood area. The new condo projects is coming more and more at this area. It’s getting worse after several years.

@ calvin

I think you are over exaggerate.
If what you said is correct, then Imperial Residence, Iconic Skies, Skycube or even Setia Pinnacle can’t sell at all. But honestly they were almost fully sold at launch time.
Please use figure, good evening to you.

Calvin is definitely not bullshitting.
Many of the buyers may not physically stay there but there are many whose near family’s are nearby so they prefer to choose here knowing very well the traffic & congestion they have to face for the future. Before all this mass development this area was very peaceful & low density but now it has increased 10 folds. Take a drive during the peak hours & experience it for yourself. If it’s not United Nations here then I don’t know what to say anymore. Been here since year 2000. The close proximity to the Industrial Zones was the main factor I am here.

@calvin
What you said is true. A lot of my friends are planning to move out from this area due to jam. They really can’t tahan the jam anymore.

@CG
Which area with a affordable house price and not jam?

@Metro
Go to balik pulau stay affordable and less jam
Also make us less 1 of your car jam too.

Sungai ara jam 1 hour only can move out compare to other place may be take time jam 10-30min only, sungai ara gg

Move to bayan baru lah, lesser jam and closer to FIZ. While all the relau/sg ara folks still stuck in the jam and kao beh kao bu, I’m still sleeping haven’t wake up.

There are abundant of completed condo in Bayan Baru area, price had stabilize to a reasonable level in recent year.

My point is don’t limit your purchase to only those new launch condo in overly congested area.

This project is near to main road, I think is less jam.
The maintenance fees is RM0.16 psf which is very attractive.
How’s the workmanship of Ideal?

every morning.. u need 90 minutes to get out of the jam

@OMG123
Can u be more specific which area to which area take 90 minutes?

Same area jam more or less, why not buy Fairview Residence? Cheaper than Imperial Grande, different 30sf only.
Some more from bsg.

@T Affordable house title is one grade below the condo level, it is high density and difficult to sell due to price ceiling. The area is near to hill where it had experienced landslide on 15 Sept 2017. Furthermore, affordable house cannot rent out to outsider(s). As for the facilities offered, Ideal always give bigger spaces compared to other developers.

iconic skies 37 storey. IG 46 storey & 938 units !!!
just wonder y city council can approval it.
CC dun have road traffic study?
future the traffic ‘no eye c ‘

@T
Haha, i was thinking the same.
Location wise, is it secure? from the land hill. Need ur advice sir.

TQ

@Ryu
You are right.
But Imperial Grande high density tha Fairview Residence.
IG 938units and FV 750units.

@ehsan
Landslide happen last mth is good sign to developer at that area, at least they alert on this maybe take into consideration during construction? 3~4years time to build, should be able to improve/prevent? My personal thought.
Anyway, IG showroom really nice!

@SK Ch’ng 016 403 4388
which road to use?? can explain more…
mana ade jalan mau lari?

@T
Fairview indeed cheap, but next to landslide which recently happen at SP Setia there….
but there less congested…

Fairview is affordable houses, sorry for those high income ppl especially investor.
IG main road is facing super traffic constrain in future due to Eik Wah primary school confirm build at front vacant place. Base on the current old and new condos surround, some illegal ‘sa ho chooh’, a recycle farm, an old folk home (move out soon), u can imagine how many future housing projects at this area which is under Ideal, GSD, BSG, Setia, Tunas Muda, Ivory developers. Future traffic ‘no eye c’ !!!

This area where got Ivory? Which land belongs to Ivory?

if look at above IG perspective, the 2 block look like
bamboo. its means the building is very high….
later on this place will be a Concrete Jungle.
start from this area. Penang is next little Hong Kong.

This is the sign of developed state haha

if ppl like HK or Singapore life style, this project is suitable for sincere buyers only. Don’t miss out!
Yahoo, PENANG will become a big city like HK or Singapore in future.

Speculators predicted next year will be a big challenge for housing trading, house pricing will drop 30% because of the poor demand, tight loan, finance capability and oversupplied issues. Possibility will become a bubble burst, pls think twice!!

Piling?

Only landed start build

Proposed SRK(C) Aik Hwa is in front of the site

Aik Hwa beside IG land empty still. Saw banglow construction started behind IR backroad got bas kilang a lot. Ithink that phase 1

@KHo piling should be started

@hee1999

i think it started already

Piling has been started. my husband and I always visit the construction site when we’re free..

Kws banjir

when is the sign s&p actual date? still no news on that

@low after you get the loan from bank?

Many already sign spa. Now wait stamping from lawyer

@Jiji @KHo

from what i know is now still in pre-sign s&p. not the official sign s&p yet.

i called the ideal staff, they got the APDL approved but still pending for the certification.

so am i wrong?

What is pre-sign? Last month I go Ideal office sign four stack hundred pages witnessed by a lawyer and agent and pay RM5000 what is that?

Are you even a buyer. Get back here when your loan approved

@KHo

let me call again the ideal staff and see.

last 2 week i called. the official s&p date not confirm yet. but if i want to sign, can sign now also.

if really sign the s&p. should be have offcial letter or call , right? will get them a call and see

@KHo

Hi KHo, Pre-sign Means Signed SPA without Stamping , Now Waiting APDL Approved Only , so should be Feb 2018 only can be stamped estimated ,i have alot of buyer’s who bought with me already signed since OCT 2017 So Just Signed it & Secured Your Free GIFT
( 1 year maintenance fee & grill door @ entrance & yard )

Best Regards,

SK Ch’ng

@low , there’s no such thing called “pre-sign S&P”

1. Booking
2. Prepared all the documents and submit to banker
3. Wait for 1&2 weeks and banker will notify you whether the loan is approve or not
4. Once the loan approve, banker will make appointment with you to sign the offer letter of the housing loan.
5. Make appointment for signing S&P

this is what I know…I’m first time buyer, please correct me if im wrong

@Jiji

yes. this is the procedure. but up front the APDL has been approve and get the certificate.

you can refer to #77 for the information.

Ok. Uncle not first time buyer but first time buy ideal. During launching if not mistske oktober agent and ideal staff say APDL approve already

I have signed as well. But I think the snp still haven’t get the lawyer stamp so down payment actually not yet transact

SNP will be stamp around february for the first batch….

By the way, how the sales actually ?

Tower A left about 30% units? Tower B still have alot…

I’m previous owner of Ideal property, my advice is, Do not buy from this developer if you have better plan… cause their work is degraded compare to last time, PLUS after sale service is very Tai Chi type. Last their so call appointment maintenance office is a abang adik with means still is a IDEAL control… all your defect will be tai chi here and there..

If you are buyer and planed to buy, pls prepare ur long term maintenance fee increase cause FYI, IDEAL is always choose lower cost supplier and material exp CCTV, lighting, Gen Set, lif….for their current so call BEST condo… Pls make sure the material they plan to use 1st and black and white in SnP before you sign.. else is not worth for high cost investment. Beside, make sure they are not using their appointed own developer Maintenance office “Pxxx UPAYA” to maintain your 1st year…else you will cry (tai Chi master)…see One Imperial, Imperial Residences and Solaria Residences in owner complain you will know….

get a sms from ideal for the snp sigh up

get sms too

Got sms and see quite many people already sign S&P in ideal office

Guys, I place deposit and should I buy ? If drop, can get back this deposit?

yes, offcoz you can get back your deposit anytime

@First time buyer

yes , Booking fee rm 1k is fully refundable.

Here can do homestay?

@Garret
i think normall homestay was not allowed

Hi Guys, the piling has started in the site ?
Do you guys ever worry about the high density and also extremely ‘High Floor’ of the building ?
Overall i like the unit, but my partner worry about the density and high rise building. Keep asking me go for subsale.@@
Is it worth to buy at current psf ?

@ExcitedBuyer
subsale can get better than this project lah.

I bought just because it is having a low upfront payment and unit price (do not count psf) is still cheaper than subsale. Subsale need take out at least 70k cash upfront for down payment and also legal fee , stamp duty and etc.

Dont buy lah waste money, 480k+bank interest 400k total 880k feed bank and developer only

@P ten
this project got any rental subsidy giving by the developer?

Yes, rm10000.

what is the price for 3 storey semi-d ?

At least RM1 millions onwards

@P ten
Not necessarily high upfront cash for completed projects. There are some units available at one imperial now with special low down-payment offer. Contact me if interested.

Published completion is 2021. Any chances its completing earlier ? based on any previous Ideal’s project buyers experience ?

Piling completed. tower crane already up

@Rag Imperial resident start 2013 complete 2016. godspeed can be earlier 2020

Sound good the Piling has been started. I already place a unit at there.
SnP and loan aggreement signed.

Piling started or completed? SRJK Aik Hwa should be completed earlier than this project

@Ply pass by yesterday. piling complete and crane. aik hwa not yet

Good Luck Imperial Grand Owner, Your Maintenance Office will be also appointed as POSITIF UPAYA… which are abang adik running the biz… exp to CS Txx their so call maintenance office BOSS…his will not treat you as customer rather you are just a white rat for him.. good luck

Maintenance office is appointed early stage of project? What is so bad about Positive Upaya?

Whotold you upaya will managing grand. Upaya bo upaya mine property not for own stay. Are you own stay or investment?

Do not buy any Ideal properties. They appointed building management (Pasifik Upaya) is totally SUCKS! Totally no management skill at all! All complaints they just make don’t know! When complaint to developer Modular Platinum they just drag it till office moved also never solve! All renovation was appointed by they samseng/gangster contractor with sky high price!! No outside contractor are allow unless you pay the “Rubbish Fee” which cost you easily RM6000 – RM12000 buta!!! Think twice until you are overloaded!!

@previous owner of Ideal
Totally agreed with you! Only previous buyer will know the pain!! Developer + Building Management = Tai Chi Master!!! Many owner now regret of buyer their properties!! Being conned by them yet no place to complaint!! DAP is helping these type of developers until “bullying” us the owners!!!

I got people stay IR they pay rubbish 2000 geh. Every place also got ganster

Ideal Property sucks!!!!@

@cj

no more aik hwa……..they change to other school already.

you can refer to his fb website

cj u mean the oku school?

low :@cj
no more aik hwa……..they change to other school already.
you can refer to his fb website

Hi, u already outdated! Pls update yourself before sending, don’t give wrong info to make ppl confuse. Aik Hwa contract had been signed and confirm build on this location only Chung Hwa high school rejected the land offer. Seriously this project is quite high density and surrounding many condos and high rise low cost housing, it is a complicated and high crowded area in Relau

@Ah gaik

yes

@kekpo

mean there have 2 school at that land ?

i saw this ideal fb website

Under its corporate social responsibility programme, Ideal Property Group contributed a piece of 1.38 acres land situated in Relau for the construction of the School for Mentally Retarded Children Penang (Relau Branch). To further materialized the school project, the school’s building which is estimated to cost approximately RM6million will be fully funded by Ideal Property Group.

A Groundbreaking Ceremony was held last Saturday, 31 March 2018 and it was a great honor to have Penang Chief Minister YAB Tuan Lim Guan Eng to officiate the ceremony.

not build anything at relau pls. trafic jam teruk la. got one school already

Has anyone heard that soon one hotel (by Ideal) will be built next to this project?

I just signed 1 unit today. Hi guys…pls comnent…is it worth investment ?

It better be, you’ve already bought it

@Tan

@low
yes! Two school on that land. MRCP replace Chung Hwa and Eik Hwa will ground breaking very soon

@Tan
u already make a very big mistake to invest — condos over supplied in Penang island, new projects
continue coming up non stop, affordable houses is worth to invest b’cos got market, those above $500k condos very hard to let go. Pls survey & study first before invest any property

@Tan
Principle of ECONOMICS — supply over demand –> no business. Haha!!

Condos with good location and proximity to amenities will still have market…like shopping mall, school or public transport

@kekpo

so no more chinese secondary school in this area……

First 10% loan need to be released soon.

Hi everyone, I am planning to buy a unit for own stay, but I’m struggling between Imperial Grande and Golden Triangle 2. Which one will be better for own stay? Any recommendations?

@chin Golden triangle 2 is good and low density, but i don’t prefer there for own stay because it’s very near to the petrol station, not good for long term staying. somemore flood area. I will suggest you to buy imperial grande.

@Tan im also just sign a unit there.

Any imperial grande buyer here?

Big Mistake

I heard there a lot of foreigner? Shall we form a group to know each others and inform each others for the progress?

@Lynn
this area is foreigner area so not weird if you heard about a lot of foreigner, you need to make sure no owner is renting out to foreigner if not this condo sure gone.

So far no legal rule to control the residents to rent out their units for foreigners. All condos, flats and landed property at Relau or this region more or less have foreigner stay in. Unless those far away from FTZ industry such like Balik Pulau, Batu Feringgi or Teluk Kumbar and those over million super condos

During sign S&P think the lawyer just mention cant rent for homestay. Hope the owner not rent out their unit to foreigner.

This is depend on how maintenance office to in force strict rules. Any feedback on golden triangle or iconic skies on rent out to foreigner issues?

Then should see how imperial residence management. Anyone start pay bank loan?

Maintenance office also cannot do anything, because this is owner property and no rules to enforce them. Triangle already conquer by the bangles, sooner or later other condos also kenalah………

How many percent of bangles in golden triangle?

good question! As long as small amount of foreigner still can acceptable. At this southern area of Penang, we cannot avoid of 0% of foreigner either in condos/flats or landed properties. My friend stay at Tanjung Bunga condo also have some siamese stay in which is working at the nearby hotels. U can refer the Triangle property talk and see what is happening there

My fried is commitee of Golden Triangle. He say not much foreigner la.. All is well control. They are upgrading their security system as well. A strong management is required.

@owner, are u start pay loan?

@Lynn yes we are first badge to sign

Any buyer start getting their 1k rebate cheque? signed for 4th months but didn’t received any sms.

Is it 1k booking? Can be rebate? Only cancel booking can get back 1k no? Can check wiv agent

where is the showroom ? business hours?

showroom at Ideal office. business hours i think is until 5p.m and Sunday is till 6p.m

got groupchat or facbook group?

@Owner i hv ask this question before but seem bo answer. Personally i feel is good for this property owner to have a group chat or fb group., so we can know each others and share updats.

Any one who know the groupchat or facbook group, please share here. Thanks

can create group in facebook use SPA front page for verify member approval

Good idea. Who want to take initiative to create a group

Bought IG too. If create group please add me in.

My FB = kelv ko

very high density. type a or type b better?

Golden Triangle 2 is better than IG base on the location and density, think twice!!

GT2 comes with 129 shop lots, IG 65 shop lots, which one is more high density?

@Kelvin
I am buyer too, if create group add me as well.. Thank you.

All no give detail how to add. Want group create own group la

@Lynn
Please add me into the group if the group is formed. Thanks lot.
Fb- Ho Shzeng Ong

Group created. Search Imperial Grande Residence in FB

Thank you Kelvin. Not all hero wear cape

@owner, you are welcome. Nice to meet you.

Any info can share and discuss there

Hi Kelvin thanks

Wow..129 shop lots..must be super convenient to the residents

Haha! This area become very complicated, crowded, high dense……..

@Kelvin

hi i jz sign snp last month , pls add me to group , my FB Alice Chang

what is the price for bungalow unit….

@James

Rm 51x,xxx

@Kelvin

please make the imperial grande facebook group as (closed) group…all info are private and confidential…hope there’s only IG residents inside the group
thanks

Imperial Grande:
Built up: 1000sqf
Selling: RM 475,000 onwards
Published date: 18 Feb 2017

The Amarene:
Built up: 1100 & 1200sqf
Selling: RM 630,000 onwards
Published date: 13 Oct 2017

Why the Imperial Grande selling much more cheaper than The Amarene? Why

@Kelvin
please make the imperial grande facebook group as (closed) group…all info are private and confidential…hope there’s only IG residents inside the group
thanks

Will the bungalow and semi-detached units have any facilities..is it GnG?

Ideal start selling the bungalow unit? Must be above 1mil

good luck another Ideal Developer… coming to you Positif Upaya as management office and soon your developer module will play tai chi here and there.. all your housing defect claim is due to bomba, due to design all been approve by gov..
Next time to buy any developer housing, remember all plan, material use, layout are Black and white in SnP… else after complete build YOU are the main problem cause they will not bear all their defect repair..GOOD LUCK
GOOD LUCK, Dun think they give you 2 year free maintenance fee… all had been counted into your purchase price, plus after 2 year lot of facility will be broken… then you know how much you going to pay your maintenance….my advice DUN BUY IDEAL property, you can go check it out HOW BAD IDEAL developer and after their service.
THEY just want your money only and give you low standard condo in cheap cheap vendor provider.

Deputy Education Minister Teo Nie Ching announced a RM1 million allocation in support of the new school building for SRJK Aik Hwa.
The school has been yearning for a relocation for the past 10 years.
The school will be relocated to Lilitan Sungai Ara.

May i know what is the exact clear ceiling height ?
Is that 10 ft? 10.3 ft or 10.5 ft ? or higher ?

@ExcitedBuyer
standard 10ft

Is there any WhatsApp group to join for this project(Imperial Grande)? Please let me know if anyone knows about it. Thank you.

@Chun Poh Keong
There’s a facebook group to join. “imperial grande residence” Only buyer are allowed to join.

The bungalow units were built by Ideal for Koperasi to compensate previous house that sit on this piece of land / koperasi members

strictly not for sales

@starboi
once loan approved they will bank in cheque to you in every 3 months

interested pls pm

@lavannya

can provide me your phone number ?

ideal super fast…

Fast and furious

A NEW school for special children is ready and will open soon in Sungai Ara, Penang, in June 2020.

The state government handed over Sekolah Suria to the Penang Welfare Association for Mentally Retarded Children.

Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow said he hoped the association would put the new school to good use.

I live in IR as a tenant and been overlooking the building of Imperial Grande.
Here’s what I felt after living there for at least 3 years: the building material is pretty bad, I can hear almost all the footsteps from the above unit which is rented out to foreigners, talking out loud in the middle of the night and shouting here and there. Good thing is the ample space to jog around the facility area, super big swimming pool.
And on Grande:
My gosh what a super dense building of 48 storeys in that small plot of land !!! I cannot imagine waiting for the lift day in and out only to exit the carpark into a jam. I went to the sales gallery and when asked how are they going to solve the jam in that area: their answer is that place is always jam anyway and it’s not developers responsibility.

@Ben
U thought developer is government a?? solve jam issue, really funny joke u little boy

@Ben
Now we have most concern issue will be some owners rented out in lower price for foreigners workers to stay. It’s sad to see as quite a number of unit with this condition. Even yesterday saw moving in for them. We buy this condo to avoid this situation but it happend in here. Hopefully management try to fix the issue.

@Foreigners
In Relau area, you couldn’t avoid this situation unless is highend condo residence.
The rental fees is low between RM1k to 1.5k average for a normal condo in relau. Even foreigners workers can rent easily with 5 people per unit. And if you see around road side fully parking with bus. If you go Shineville park farlim then you will know situation.

@KK
The major concern will be once foreigner start to move in & how are we going to sustain our facilities condition.
It’s really difficult to control if foreigners workers moving in here. We should call for AGM as soon as possible to get this issue sort out before turn into foreigner wokers nest. The rental fees here are rather low. No value for the condo if similar condition continue.

This condo even some selling at below 520k now. It’s over supply. Some desperate owner to let go.

@Relau
ori price is 390k mah

@property hunter
This condo price ori is 488k.
But many owner now offer lower price in rental.
Mostly young buyers don’t have strong holding power & some looking for short term only.
Perhaps soon we may see more lelong or house occupied with foreigners… Hahahaha..