The Tamarind
The Tamarind, a freehold executive apartments by E&O Property at Seri Tanjung Pinang, Penang. Located along Jalan Seri Tanjung Pinang 1, within walking distance to Straits Quay and Tesco. It is also well connected by strategic access roads to many amenities including schools, medical centres and shopping malls.
This development comprises two 33-storey towers of service apartments.
Project Name: The Tamarind
Location : Seri Tanjung Pinang, Penang
Property Type : Executive Apartments
Tenure : Freehold
Total Units: 1,104 (To be confirmed)
Built-up Area: 1,042 sq.ft. onwards
Indicative Price: RM 600,000 onwards
Developer : E&O Property Development
Estimated Completion : 2019
Location Map:
Contributed by reader (Update 18/07/15)
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@Cindy
Block A completes Level 17 now, equivalent to Level 23 of Jazz Hotel.
@filterfren
Thanks.
The progress is damn fast. I am not in construction field so I would like to ask is it normal to have that fast progress? Will it jeopardize the quality? I am worry because I am one of the unit owner. Thanks.
@BY
E&O being a reputable developer will not compromise on quality. It’s just that this is a company which stays at the top where work is concerned.
@filterfren
Good. Thanks.
@filterfren
Wah… the height difference between Tamarind and Jazz Hotel is like 6 floors. How come so huge? Are we sitting on higher land? Mine is on 28th floor facing Tamarind. I am hoping I can overlook Jazz Hotel. Not too sure Jazz Hotel is how many floors though.
@ Cindy
Jazz hotel has 8 storey car park as opposed to 4 storey for Tamarind. Jazz hotel is 32 storey high with another 3 storey wing structure on top of the building. Sadly, your 28 storey unit will not beat the threshold of the full height of Jazz hotel.
We cannot compare like this, carpark floor to ceiling height is usually lower, so it is not apple to apple comparison, also we don’t know the Jazz hotel floor to ceiling height (for each level).
Unless both the Jazz hotel and Tamarind floor to ceiling height is almost same…..
Progress of The Tamarind is very fast. Now going to pay progressive payment again.
Since filterfren mentioned current progress of Tamarind level 17 is equivalent to level 23 Jazz hotel, then the difference between them is 6 levels. So logically if Jazz hotel is 35 floors in height, level 29 of Tamarind could be the equivalent. However, I googled and found somewhere stated Jazz Hotel is 30 floors… if add the wing structure another 3 levels, total 33 levels only. But this is what I gather from internet. Anyone with reliable info can share please.
What’s with the obsession for the heights of Jazz vs Tamarind?
Agree !
@Michael
The difference in a couple of storey’s on Jazz is due to the top level where its 2 storey high.
A five storey TNB power station is coming up right opposite Block B. A signboard to this effect has already been put up.
TNB power station = cancer ??
@filterfren
Yes, I’m afraid so, this is no ordinary TNB substation, but a “main intake substation” at 5-storey high with gigantic transformers inside. It’s an 275/132/33kV Ebor. I had a short chat with TNB site personnel, it seems this 5-storey TNB main intake substation will only occupy half of the land, the other half will be occupied by Indah Water.
My condolences to the buyers of Block-B.
Indah water? Sure or not, tot the other half piece of land was sold to EWEIN developer for their city of dream-2 condo
@filterfren
It will be located at which side of the land? Near to Tamarind main entrance side?
If the TNB sub-station is for real, whats the effect for those living nearby especially close to it. With today’s technology, those it really matters ? Anyone familiar with this kind of situation can share your opinion here. Definitely, it concerns to all the owner’s here. Thanks
I recall when the project was launched, someone said that a part of the land is gazetted for substation but no one believed coz everyone said it’s for City of Dreams. Now I guess Block B owners better go down to the site and check if TNB and Indah Water will be next to them.
@Phang
There is a sign board at the site that says “CADANGAN MENDIRIKAN 1 UNIT PENCAWANG MASUK UTAMA (PMU) 5 TINGKAT, DIATAS LOT PT 1514, JALAN SERI TANJUNG PINANG 1, SEKSYEN 1 BANDAR TANJONG PINANG, DAERAH TIMUR LAUT, PULAU PINANG, UNTUK TETUAN TENAGA NASIONAL BERHAD”.
Looks very bad.
@Michael
What we can do next?
Look at the other side of the coin, u get un-block seaview and Gurney coastline view….better than Block-A buyer. But the Indah Water pond is for real ?
@BY
They have the right to built on their own site. TNB will surely say that there is no side effect from staying near substation if not where can they build their substations? But next time when you sell, many buyers will definitely not want because they will rather err on the safe side. Got so many houses, why must purposely choose one next to the substation… unless you sell dirt cheap. However, like Lim Kok says, due to the 5 story height, Block B maybe can view Gurney…
Put yourself in a future buyer’s shoes. Will you buy a home with good view but risking your family’s health, or would you buy a home with normal view but can stay with a peace of mind that your family’s health is not affected by any substation? I think majority will definitely choose the latter.
In addition, if really true that Indah Water is coming, I think even the minority who won’t mind staying next to a substation will shy away. The smell will be horrendous. 2 major negative sites next to you… who will want to buy as their home? Even rent out also difficult.
So block B owners just got to wait and see what comes up beside them. No choice already since payment made. In future, when you commit to buy a property with empty land next to you, this is a gamble. It can be good or it can be very bad.
@Lim Kok
Future city of dreams 2 will be there. So the view will be gone as well. Not to mention block B owners have to deal with on going construction in the future
5 storey TNB substation sounds really big. wondering the existing landed resident will just keep quiet.
@Lol, city of dream2 will be at the same piece of land as the TNB substation?
@Lol
Future City of Dream will be near to the LMC or near to the Strait Quay side.?
I doubt they can squeeze an IWK pond, a TNB substation (5 storeys), and City of Dream (not sure how many blocks)
So, finally the truth is out. I believe the exact spot where substation will be built should be known by now just that we are unaware. There’s nothing much we can do about it as long as it’s a distance away from our compound.
@winnie
It’s an eyesore alright but if health is not affected, we don’t have to worry much. You bought this Tamarind. Not sure if their lay out plans are confidential as of now but let’s try to get more details to share here for benefit of all.
The plot of land they barricaded for TNB is just adjoining Tamarind land. So its directly next to Block B!
@monfly
Yes same land as city of dreams 2
no wonder tower b wasn’t expensive.
@banker
City of Dreams 2 also will be not expensive?
COD-2 will not be cheap coz the land purchase price is high ( > 1k psf). Now EWEIN are stuck coz got tnb/iwk and they cannot sell cheap. Also COD-2 wont launch so soon. Coz EWEIN need to selling off their COD-1, heard their sales is really slow.
@Tan
Wonder TNB got the land FOC?
This I donno, btw does it matter ?
@Lim Kok
Haha. You are right. it doesn’t matter actually. Just still can’t accept TNB sub station is going to be built in this piece of expensive land.
I wonder if Block A would be affected by the rays from the TNB plant?
@filterfren
Block A is a distance away and it has Block B in between to “shield” some of the effects. If Block A is affected, Marinox and Santorini plus the landed nearby also affected. However, Block B gets it worse because it’s so glaringly unsightly and imagine their balcony looks straight at the substation. Next time sell sure very difficult for Block B. Those facing the playground or pool still not that bad.
Wonder if there is any protest by EWEIN, landed owners etc etc.
Arent there rules to impose a min distance to keep from the residences area? I mean that has to take consideration if the tnb substation rays will pose a threat to the human health right?
after we stay then survey see how many ppl will gt critical illness betwen tower A and B.
Any event of protest, please update here.
I think we should protest… honestly, I feel dissapointed with the fact! 5 storey? Undeniably, it will be bad for health. Imagine 30 ft – 50 ft distance (tower b) if it is for real, I am not comfortable to stay in The Tamarind, health issue, Radioactive and etc… Feng Shui another thing, in future want to let go also a big question. The reason I buy The Tamarind is because of the location and developer and right pricing. 700psf with semi furnished unit (E&O Product) at Seri Tanjung Pinang isn’t it a good buy?
Even I am the buyer of tower A
Speak on behalf tower The Tamarind buyer (Tower B)
You all cheapskate buyers, pay peanuts but demand a lot. You think you pay RM2000/sf ar? This kind of low class condo, give me also I dont want lah!
U don’t want give me la I want @weiwei
Regret buying tower B. The ENO officer didn’t disclose that this piece of land going to build TNB sub station when the time buying. I would have not bought if have known about that. Can I sell now although I have signed SNP?
@Jason
Me too.
It is not just any substation, but a “main intake substation” 275/132/33kV Ebor at 5-storey high. The size is almost 3 times of the substation at Jalan Utame/Lengkok Barat junction opposite Waterfall Hotel. Go ahead and do a survey of the households at Lengkok Barat, almost ALL household have at least 1 family member getting cancer. That’s why most houses there have been left vacant. God bless.
Hope is not all lost knowing cod2 is sharing the piece of land where this pmu is. I wonder why ewein went ahead to buy this land. Isnt that he would know cod2 sales will be impacted?
I still see eno pushing for the sale of remaining 1300+ sft unit. Which is nearest to the 5 storey pmu. Wonder ppl will fall into it.
looking from the site photo, I believe COD-2 will get the inner stretch of the land, which gives them full sea view, but again, would you like to passby a big PMU before reaching your COD-2 luxury condo?
@Lim Kok
Where can we get the site photo?
Join the Fb group
Got photo
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I really hope we can gather together and protest to the Government/TNB not E&O. Because this land is government reserved land, I have no idea why they give TNB the land for PMU use. 5 storey man no kiding! No way man! We must not let this happen… in order to protect our property value We must go protest until TNB not building PMU at that piece of land. Please… I am a first home buyer here. First property in my life, hope it is a good one, not a nightmare. My hard earn money lehhh…every OT OT in order to pay for the monthly progressive interest…
By the way I see things here, it is definitely a big health issue even before this project is completed. Today I passed by and can see a tractor in action inside the vacant land but can’t actually view what is going on. Probably starting construction for this feared substation. Is it safe to built such a big TNB station in a congested residential area? Should we need to consult from the health department for advise or any suggestions here. It certainly concerns everyone who bought Tamarind. We need to act fast I guess.
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Who regret buying? Since everyone not really happy with their buying. I am seriously interested to purchase a unit at Tower A with 2 car parks since very long time. My offer is RM720k, FYI my loan can be approved 650k. Email me at ji33r_99@hotmail.com. Tqvm
@MrTing
Tower B Ok?
@MrTing, majority regret buying is Block B. You can offer to those owners of Block B. I am sure some Block B owners will sell to you but do you want Block B unit? My family bought 2 units at Block A and we are not concern about this TNB.
700 to 900k is a LOT of money to pay for a pigeon-hole unit in a good location. I feel bad for Block B buyers…. in fact I feel that in a way they have been cheated. What was once considered to be a value buy, overnight the perception has changed with this gigantic thing coming up, right in front of their units.
Similar Case:-
RESIDENTS of USJ Heights, Subang Jaya, are seeing red over the construction of a main substation in their neighbourhood as they are concerned over the effects of living close to such a substation.
Residents said they were not notified upon purchase of their homes or at any point later that the land was acquired by Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) for the substation.
“We were shocked to discover that the land was reserved for a six-storey main intake substation,” said Albert Beh.
He said hoarding was placed last year with a notice informing that the main intake substation would be built and was expected to be completed next year.
Azlli Ahmad, who is among the group of residents who had set up a protem committee to petition against the project, said the committee had met up with Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ), TNB and developer Sime Darby Properties Bhd on the matter.
“Sime Darby Properties Bhd confirmed that a main substation would be constructed by TNB. Residents were also told that TNB had gone through the proper channels and had the approval to build the main intake substation in USJ Heights.
“We do not mind such a substation but it should not be so close to us,” he added.
A Sime Darby Properties spokesman said the land was acquired by TNB directly from the Petaling District Land Office as the main intake substation would serve public needs. The Land Office had posted a notice of the intended land acquisition.
TNB corporate affairs and communications senior general manager Datuk Mohd Aminuddin Mohd Amin said TNB acquired the land for the main substation, also known as PMU 275/132/33kV Ebor, through the Land Acquisition Act 1960 with approval was granted by the Selangor government in April 2011.
“TNB had submitted to the relevant local authorities the Development Order Approval and the Building Plan Approval before commencing work,” he said.
He assured residents that they need not worry about their safety and health.
“The distance between the Ebor main substation and houses comply with the Uniform Building by-law. The distance from the nearest house to the project zone is 106m.
“The construction and installation of the equipment will follow international standards including the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection in regards to electromagnetic field.
“The new main substation will strengthen the power supply reliability and security of Subang Jaya, as the existing substation is insufficient to cater to the rapid growth in terms of development,” he added.
Mohd Aminuddin said TNB would communicate with residents’ representative on the progress of the construction whenever required.
Work on the ground floor of the six-storey main substation is on-going. Construction hours are from 8.30am to 6pm daily except Sunday, as agreed by the residents’ association.
The protem committee had submitted a letter of objection to Selangor Mentri Besar Azmin Ali in early February, urging the government to issue a temporary stop work order and review the project.
Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/2015/03/16/residents-protest-against-construction-of-substation/#E4PX4TtoJbKBMoe3.99
@filterfren
Actually, Block A also got it’s problem of gigantic exhaust fans from Jazz car park. It’s just that visually you don’t see it, but when operations start, you will hear the loud noise and smell the exhaust.
@E&O
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But Block B buyers bought cheaper than Block A. Some more that time their view was way better than Block A. Why would a developer launch their price as such. As buyers we should think deeply already. And looking back at this forum, there was a person who warned of power station being built but no one listened. So who can you blame.
Nope, I only want tower A, PM me if you have@Willing Seller
Block B view is still better than Block A, just with a TNB power station in view.
@Kamal
I’m deeply impressed with the location and reputation of the developer plus the pursuade from the sale people. I agreed that my first priority was due to the price was way much cheaper compare to block A. Now think even want to sell below market price after OC also difficult.
Tower B Stack No.2, 4, 6 and 8 kena the worst. Tower A Stack No 9, 11, 13, 15 and 17 no kena at all. Tower A still remains its Value, not affected I guess
@Weilan
Hi, which stack in tower A affected? Or none affected?
@Willing Seller Tower A would not be affected as it is a distance away. Marino tower A, i santorini and Lmc also would be affected if The Tamarind Tower A is affected. The worst is the landed houses next door. They bought 3mil house leh…u all only less than 1mil. The community there need to hand hold hand to protest to the MPPP to stop this happening. (PMU)
@Weilan
By what you mentioned, that means the TNB power station is located somewhere in front of the vacant land which is next to Tamarind. I was told there will be a concrete wall fencing up our compound. Anyone can confirm.
@shan
Thanks for sharing us your experience.
@TanTan / Ivanlee
I kind of agree from both your statement. Why build such a big power station right in front and next to so many housing projects.
Tower A not affected by this Tnb. But tower A is facing jazz hotel n residence. No view also.
Then unit 2,2A ,6,8 at high floor is better than lower floor. Of course high floor is affected by this PMU , but the view is good. Pls correct me if I am wrong
@Timmy
Actually, Tower A has it’s own problem of some facing Jazz’s big car park exhaust fans for stack 3,5,7,9. You won’t be able to see those huge fans now because they have been visually blocked by decorative panels. But they could still hear the loud noise and smell the car exhaust once it’s turned on.
Block A no view is known fact whem they bought so not surprising. Actually cannot say no view. They have got pockets of seaview depending on the unit. The exhaust fan noise will only be known when the hotel is in operation. My relative stays next to Paragon but its not noisy. Humming sound yes. So I am guessing those stay high floor will not hear it or its very minimal. Stay near road even noisier than exhaust fan. Anyway this is not as bad as the tnb issue. I know its very shocking to find out a substation next to you but this is not the first time its happening. Throughout the years, people houses when ready sees a substation next to theirs. But what to do. Tnb needs to provide enough power for the area or else where we get our electricity. And as land becomes scarce, tnb will build nearer and nearer to houses. So next time buy house better do not get near to empty plot of land. But like someone said, block b still got good view because tnb only 5 storeys. Look at the bright side.
@kheng
Can we say stack 1 to 7 (Tower A) & 2 to 8 (Tower B) somehow or rather got some impact, be it small or big. How about stack 9 onwards (for both Towers)?
Agree. For Tower A, those lower floor units between 3 to 9 maybe affected. How bad is anyone’s guess. Probably higher floor may escape this problem.
The sad thing is I’m sure many owner’s are still in the dark about this TNB issue. What I feel is we need some Clarification & Justification on this whole thing. This is no small matter.
I hope the below numbering vs their facing is correct, please correct me if otherwise.
Tower-A: stack 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 is all facing jazz hotel & condo. (this I confirm since I am stack 9 owner).
Tower-B: stack 2,4,6,8,10,12,14 is all facing the tnb and empty land. (this I not sure, any buyer ?)
The rest of the stack (tower A even numbers & tower B odd numbers) are all facing pool view or garden view.
@wondering
All the units facing each side got impact be it Block A or B. Even block A unit 15 also can hear the sound. Moreover unit 15 is nearest to the highway being build next to Tamarind in future. So you think car noise louder or exhaust fan louder? Therefore million dollar units facing seaview will be noisiest when the highway is up. Those units facing Tamarind playground although don’t face tnb or jazz hotel, but they get hot afternoon sun.
In life there is no perfect property. Tamarind is only mid price property so do not expect for 100% perfection.
aiyoh unit 9 to 15 tower a and unit 10 to 16 tower b will still be impacted. open balcony can see the big tnb or hear the exhaust fan. best is those facing the pool and seaview but you pay for the high price. in the internet some say substation is ok. do you hear more tnb workers getting cancer than other profession or not??
if no tnb here, later not enough power for the whole area. then do not cry over why electrical supply here sucks.
@jason
Which stack are you buying?
@Wondering
Block-B stack 2,2A,6,8,10,12,12A,16 will be affected by TNB.
Block-A stack 3,5,7,9 (maybe 11) will be affected by giant exhaust fans.
@kheng
Is Tamarind the only project facing the highway? How about Jazz and Marinox?
@miko
I can’t understand your views. Tower A unit 9 to 15 and 17 are probably the furthest away from that TNB station. Possible exhaust fan noise may only affect those lower floors but higher ones should be safe. I agree there is no perfection in buying properties. Even if there is, we won’t get it unless you have strong connection. As for the highway still a long way to go. Anyone knows whats the progress now.
all the projects ie tamarind, jazz and marinox will be next to the highway.
so the nearer you are to the highway (example tower A unit 15 will be nearest to highway) will have louder traffic noise. you choose traffic or exhaust fan. your choice.
Jazz and Marinox also, Marinox is worst coz all sea facing unit are facing highway
@pierre
I can’t get you. Where is the TNB sub station actually located? Near to Tower B stack 2 to 8 or near to stack 10 to 18?
@Phang
Who told you there will be a concrete wall fencing up? What is the height then?
@mmmmm Are you the buyer of the tamarind or not? No, 16, 17 of both tower are the nearest to th highway you mentioned! They are type A… I guess you never seen the layout. Have you?
Type A big unit closest to future highway on both tower are numbered 19 and 20.
Guys, the substation is located at near to stack 2 to 8 or near to stack 10 to 16 or whole length from 2 to 16?
If near to 2 to 8, why 10 to 16 especially 16 are affected? If near to 10 to 16, why 2 to 8 especially 2 are affected? If in the middle, middle stack will directly impact, the both corners or nearer to corners should have minimum impact, right?
Anyone can confirm the exact location? Please share.
Stack 2 to 10, however for stack 2 to 16, when u stand at your balcony, you will see the tnb station in yoir eye sight, even on high floor
Sorry what I mean is Stack 17 and 18 are the nearest to Penang Outtering Road
@Weiliang
Nope. Nearest to highway are :-
Block A – stack 17 & 20
Block B – stack 19 & 20
@Phang
The highway is not a long way to go, at least for this stretch from Tanjung Tokong to Gurney. It will be completed about the same time as the completion of Tamarind.
@Png
Right now nobody knows exactly where the sub-station is located. All guessing lah… I think most of us here would definitely like to know. We need to put some effort. Our developer may probably have the answer to this and TNB of course. Suggest meet up at E&O office sometime next week to get some details. Who would like to join in.
Penang Outer Ring Road is an elevated 8-lane highway, passing right in front.
Noise and views are not favourable…
@Weiliang, I believe the highway mentioned by mmmmm is the outer ring road you mention. Its 3 or 4 lanes each side type. So I will consider this as highway too. So it does not mean pay high price, you will be guaranteed the best forever. Do research more on future developments before purchasing any property.
4 lanes on each side, total 8 lanes highway, elevated many storeys high.
Highway noise propagates towards the building facades up to 8-storeys above it…
When the PORR going to be built? Personally, I am looking forward for it to resolve the traffic jam because to me, traffic jam is worse than the noise. After all, worst case, it will impact some lower floors only as mentoned by @PORR. Well, this is just my personal opinion.
@dillon
I heard the highway four lane on each side is on going and about 40% completed. Does this means that if future those staying from Tg.Bungah and Tg.Tokong can bypass Gurney Drive and using this highway leads to Jln Sultan Ahmad Shah. It would be great if that’s the case.
@Png
The sales people told us about the wall fencing but this cover up should be normal for a condo like this. Height not so sure.
@Phang
No point to ask E&O. They confirmed TNB sub station is going to be built on Government Reserved Land but since it is not their land, they said they have no idea the exact location.
I think the best is to ask TNB directly. Anyone knows who in TNB in charge of this project? Please share. Thanks.
@Timmy
Thanks. I think you only concern about the view. But if COB2 is to be built, no view as well. Anyhow, majority bought due to the location rather than view.
How about in terms of health, if the sub station located at 2 to 8, the very far corner of 18 or 16 should have little impact, right?
I got a unit at tower A, lower floor, stack 13 (11A) with 1 carpark would like let go if I get good offer. Even though is facing jazz residence carpark but somehow can get a slight seaview from quayside there. If anyone of you are interested, may offer.
I’m not sure the health impact of this tnb pwr station (or high tension cable) as there are no concrete fact proving that. A lot expert giving different oppinion.
PORR building to 40% ? I still see that stretch full of grass…!
@Png
I have this personal feeling that E&O are aware the exact location for that power station but just that they would rather not get involved. When they start selling this project, never did they ever mentioned about TNB but only emphasize it belongs to government land. Smart move I would say. Agree with you the best is refer to TNB. I don’t mind visiting them next week but with no connection, do you think they will entertain you? I doubt it.
@VL
Your unit is level 13? I’m not sure of the sea-view but only higher floor maybe possible I think. What price are you selling?
@Phang
When you are at E&O office next week, please help check the highway when is going to start and when complete. Also the Government Reserved Land’s exact plan including where the exact location of sub station and COD2. Also other than this, any other object occupying the land? Indrawater treatment plant? I am unable to join you this time. Thanks.
@VL
What size your unit? No size how to offer? If 1250sf with low floor, facing TnB, poor finishing and less view and 1 CP only, RM700K is my offer. Deal?
@miko
HuiWin, lucky i did not buy Tamarind, now we know many minus point for Tamarind & Marinox. Buy i-Santorini better laaa.
@Kenny
I Santorini has its minus points as well. It depends on how you see it. I personally can’t take lease hold property especially balance 80+ years to go. After left 60 years lease, no bank will provide bank loan, how to sell then? Think for yourself what the value will be then. Also living with 2K+ units. With the price, there will be all sort if people staying there. Chance of social problem will be high. Also imagine if each unit has 2 cars, there will be 4K+ cars. Not to mention the quality of the units. Still need to do renovation before staying. Then you will face gangster contractor issue etc etc. After consideration of this, Tamarind or Marinox will be better, if ones have the budget. This is my own view only.
By the way, work on the stretch of PORR from Tanjung Tokong to Gurney has already started. Ewein has already finished building a 1km stretch from Island Plaza to the edge of reclaimation, and the stretch in front of Tamarind has been cleared, ready to start building anytime soon.
@Uncle Lim U got 1250 Sqft 700k? I buy from you la if you got. I offer you RM800k la… please don’t ask silly question!
@VL This market situation, flipper is lucky still have people to buy from your cost price. Pls let go while the offer still here. Popular article said coming 12-18 months will be the tough period for all flipper. Some may pay 4-5K per month. HOld it for 18 months will cost you RM 70-80K. What is the down turn got longer. The fact is too many supplier and Tamarind now is Bad due to many reason able. People may opt for marinox/santorini
i-Santorini just right beside the propose Monorail Line
@Uncle Lim Haha…Must be 1047 sqft la type C…if 1250 no such price d… at least 900k… in future at least above 1mil
@Uncle Lim
Please don’t play play here. Even 1047 sqft no such price. Thanks.
Selling my unit, high floor (>20) stack-9, Tower A facing Jazz hotel.
Any takers? Pre-OC agreement can be arranged. Please offer
Supplier too much.
Good luck for Luxury condo owner.
You can keep and not sell, but the fact is, no transaction also useless.
@PGInvestor
Aiyo, don’t try to add salt to their wound lar, they already know the pain, every month feed the banks for nothing, can’t flip, can’t rent out at reasonable rental yields.
@Tang RM750k is my offer. Take it or leave it. Provide me your email if you are interested. Will contact you
This is the time for Luxury Condo flipper to quit, and u are lucky still have buyer want to buy from your cost price. I offer RM740K for unit that above 20 Level. Lower sorry. Pls PM me while my offer still valid.
Same situation with Marinox, despite some negative inputs from outsiders in this forum, it looks like this property still a hot cake. Within a short period, already a few offerings. Keep it up!
I offer 800k for unit above 20 level facing goverment reserved land. Prefer stack 2 to 8, further away from highway.
@Tang
You are serious to sell. Is your block Tower A level 20 Unit 9? Can quote your price as a friend of mine rather interested. Thanks
Good to see so many offerings. That has already proof that the substation is no longer an issue here. Cheers.
No choice. Have to close one eye else can’t sleep.
What do think of Tamarind in future rental prospect?
I offer 950k for unit above 20 level facing goverment reserved land. Prefer stack 2 to 8, further away from highway.
I offer 950k for unit above 20 level facing goverment reserved land. Prefer stack 2 to 8, further away from highway, and nearer to TNB substation to get more stable power supply.
wah, so many good offers up to 950k, I think not only that gigantic TNB substation is no longer an issue, in fact, it is good. So must keep mentioning it as a selling point.
on the other hand, i kind of fall into the tower a, high floor >30th floor. i would offer 950k.
@Don Haizzz.. Penang rental market can get how much leh… can get more than 4% p.a considered good rental d. Around 2-2.5k from I foreseen. Unlike in KL can get much more better rental. Even in Nilai, I can get 2.4k monthly rental with property bought just RM400k about 7% p.a. Can try invest there if you are familiar with the location. Nilai really got high demand for rental market as it is near to airport, INTI nilai, Xiamen U, Maniapal Madical university.
@Michael
Which part of KL is best to invest?
@Michael
You bought RM400k and rent out 2.4k, that tells me the capital appreciation in Nilai is not good at all, unless you bought that at least 8 years ago.
@Michael
In Nilai, you can go to Nirvana everyday.
Just checked the MBPP plan, TNB substation perimeter fencing stretches all the way until Tamarind stack 16. Based on that, you can pretty much say Block B stack 2,2A,6,8,10,12,12A,16 will have direct impact.
This type of info EnO should let purchaser know in advance just like Ivory in PWC Tropicana project as they also having sub station to be built on a small land right beside their project.
@TzeMeng
Where we can see the MBPP plan?
@Png
MBPP office lah.
@ranee
EnO is now laughing ear to ear all the way to the bank. Poor buyers like us kena conned. But who to blame, we buyers should have been cautious about buying tower B knowing there is a big piece of land next to it. I mean, there is not free lunch in this world, we should have raised our doubt during the purchase. Unless, eno deliberately lied to us and shield us from the fact even we asked about the future use of the empty land. Did the buyer ask enO sales and what were their respond then?
Back then, I did ask them about the land, they just said gov reserve, very tight lip.
Tight lip leads to fat account n deep pocket. Legally. They were not wrong but business ethic is out of window for sure. But still. I eager to find out how cod2 will market their proj now that the truth is out for the public to weigh in both pros n cons b4 buying.
If i am eno management board. I sure will give a big raise to the marketing mgr for her brilliant tactic in this so carefully thought out n well trained and timed sales pitch campaign. The buyers were basically enticed and offered a false hope of vast open gurney view with nothing in between.
Well there is still gurney view , just with a tnb station saja.
concerned owners should voice their concerns to E&O. Call them up, email or go to the sales office.
Also, submit a complaint with the city council, MBPP. There is an online e-Aduan website to do this. We can cite concerns over health risk due to electromagnetic field radiation exposure, noise and sound pollution, and a drop in property value. They are duty bound to respond.
I have already done it.
The more complaints we have, the more likely they will take action and review this project. Do your part!
Pls share online e-Aduan link.
@Png
MBPP e-Aduan link
http://aduan.mbpp.gov.my/complaint_eng.html
Guys dont be foolish. There is no way they’re going to move the substation as the area would have been earmarked a long time ago. It cannot be moved willy nilly. For those who have bought the properties facing the substation, better think of solutions how the make the best out of the situation rather than spending time complaning to e&o. agreements have been signed and loans have been released. E&O is not going budge.
@Don
Dont even think of COD2 lah. COD2 may not even materialise. the whole deal between ewein and the chinese is already screwed up. COD1 also has not moved since launching 4 years ago. pls see COD page.
Is it possible to go to the courts to have the S&P declared as null and void, due to non-disclosure of material fact, for Block B owners?
@filterfren
Fat chance bro. You would have been taken to have bought the property having conducted your own due diligence. Caveat emptor. Buyer beware. you may say their staff made some oral misrepresentations but this will never hold up in court. Its against the maxim caveat emptor and against the written documents . Dont waste time
Make your dissatisfactions known to E&O but dont waste too much time on it. They wont move the substation. Dont even waste time going to court. E&O might just give some freebies to appease the owners, thats if youre lucky enough .thats about it
We could go to the media and put E&O and the MBPP Planning Dept under the media spotlight. See if E&O want to save their reputation.
By the way, Low freq EMF waves will penetrate anything – brick, metal, concrete – it only reduces with distance. For such a large substation, there’s no guarantee that Blk A and neighboring developments are safe from EMF exposure health risk.
@icey
Don’t make a fool of yourself lah. Just consider yourself bad luck. E&O will F you no time. MBPP will F you no time. You protest this, protest that, make yourself look like a monkey only. Bad luck lor, just have to cut lost and move on.
TNB build this power station just want bring more power
to this Tj. Tokong area. if not in the future this area sure
not enough electricity. u all want TNB build the power station
into the sea? or reclaim more land?? just my opinion….
Yeah, smart move by E&O for launching and sell this project successfully despite maybe have known earlier about the TNB power station.
@icey
I agree with your point. We need to make some noise whether you like it or not. Staying quiet as if nothing happens is pretty stupid. We need to get assurance from the authorities that building such a huge power station right in front of so many residences is safe as far as health is concerned. There are other locations where they can build but why here. Winning or losing our objection doesn’t matter as long as we get some clarification and explanation.
@icey
I never knew these waves can penetrate concrete. That means all the multi-million homes in the vicinity also kena teruk.
@player
Last time you were condemning E&O project so badly. Now you are sober. What happened ? You ended up buying a unit at Block B, and now regretting?
@TzeMeng
Wow… thats a lot of space on TNB. All the way from stack 2 to 16? That basically means ALL units from 2 to 16 are facing this huge power station directly from their balconies. That’s sad!
EMF can extends to about 300m. It depends on the configuration of the wires. MBPP shall ensure thatTNB builds the station according to requirement.
But if your unit is more than 200m away from the lines, your exposure is less than 0.5 milligauss (4 milligauss is dangerous). Note: house wire and home appliances, computers also remit EMF.
So most TNB on site maintenance workers all short life span?
For those who bought the units for own stay, try to minimise the EMF from your home appliances, eat more fruits and vege and exercise more. Substations are not the only source of EMF, and may not be the major one.
For those who bought the units for own stay, try to minimise the EMF from your home appliances, eat more fruits and vege and exercise more. Substations are not the only source of EMF, and may not even be the major one.
If STP was truely an award winning master-planned township, as the developer says it is, this should not happened.
@Dan
Is that info for a similar sized substation? US EPA recommended limit at 0.5-2.5mG. Google it. 200m radius will reach part of Jazz and Marinox. Check google map. This will be additional EMF on top of whatever we get from normal household electronics. Home appliances we can switch off after use, substation will be perpetual.
It’s good sharing our knowledge here but the final verdict is important. Is it safe to live so close to such a huge power station in particular to those staying at Tower B. What we need is to get answers from professional but its easier said than done. Experts views are important.
@icey
No. I stated the max. It depends on the voltage and configuration of wires. If everything is done according to specification, 100m radius is safe for this station and TNB has taken care of it (by Theory). What I was trying to say is that there is no point to continue worry about something we cannot control. Better to look at something we can control to minimise our exposure to EMF.
The TNB plant is Humangous – extremely large building! A very big eyesore.
Frankly speaking, whatever talk or discussion here about this TNB doesn’t seem to work. Individual complaints makes no sense. My friend who also bought this condo suggested to me the other day we all could communicate through group e-mail, since making known our mobile no is rather personal at the moment. We could be strangers now but in near future we are neighbours.
Think about it…
@Dan
I don’t understand why you say “no point to continue worry about something we cannot control”. You can definitely control your own fate by not staying there, why risk your life? For what?
Luckily I’m not purchasing this property as own stay. Thinking from the other side, we can convert this condo for home stay and making profit from it. Not a bad idea too
@Baby lim
I heard our local gov will come up with strict rule and heavy fine to prevent homestay at residential properties very soon. RM5000 fine or something if caught.
One reference of TNB substation which is under construction is a new building on the Tun LCE expressway, next to Tropicana Ivory condo
@kenny
This is with commercial title. Homestay is fine.
I’m afraid homestay is not allowed for this project though it comes with commercial title. Do check your S&P again or refer to the developer.
@obak
Where we can see the picture?
Business licence for homestay is required to rent out any premises with rental period of less than a month for each stay.
In addition, Strata Title Management By-law allows only apartments to be rented out on a yearly basis.
The 24.2 hectare reclaimed island developmemt requires this large electrical sub-station.
Is it to be located within the island? Or it is located next to The Tamarind to serve the island?
Stacks 12, 14 and 16 of Block B will not be facing the TNB station directly from their balconies. This is due to the land size of TNB not big enough to cover these stacks area. They would however, view the site of the 5 storey plant.
@Prem
Next to the riverside of low cost flat next to Villa Emas, on the construction on ramp down from Bayan Mutiara towards Batu Maung on the Tun Lim Chong Eu expressway. You can notice a building with cheap roof top and few windows only
this is old photo from Google Map. The one in red bricks
https://www.google.com/maps/@5.342916,100.3078151,3a,75y,97.62h,87.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUT3kNkMdarA0aMP7raEX9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
@filterfren
It is equally bad, almost directly facing the balconies of stack 12,14,16. It is very clear, just go up Marinox and check it out, you can have a bird’s eye view from there.
By the way, stack 3,5,7 of Block B is very hot during this time of the year, you can almost fry an egg on the wall. Sunlight goes directly into the units around 5pm onwards. Best to avoid these units.
@filterfren
That is good news to stack 12, 12A, 16 & 18 owners. Do you know what will be going to do on the piece of land that their balconies are facing?
It’s correct …. stack 12 to 18 balconies will not be facing the plant directly.
Also Block B unit owners need not be too concerned about the afternoon sun, as almost all the units will be blocked from the sun by I-Santorini flats, some partially, some fully.
@filterfren
Thank you for your update.
Tower B owners should channel your complaints to YB Teh of Tg.Bungah to be more effective. They will have meetings with our CM. E&O or TNB can’t do anything much now. It’s between the state government and Seri Tanjung Pinang for this land allocation to built this power station here.
@obak
Thats a massive substation! good luck to tropicana ivory owners
@filterfren
Hi, actually stack 10, 12, 12A, 16 will have it’s balcony facing the substation because of the V-shape building. Stack 18 is OK because it is facing the other direction, but then again, it will get a lot of noise from the soon-to-be-built highway right in front of Tamarind.
Fools rush in where angels fear to thread
Sorry it’s 11A
@Kingsley
What do you mean 11A?
@filterfren
Where can we get the Substation and COD2 exact location plan?
Dear Tamarind Owners, I have contacted E&O and ask regarding the measures that E&O has taken in order to protect the well being of the tamarind owners. They have actually written to the State Gov but there is no reply from them(I find that very ridiculous). However, we should do one thing which is to write in to corp.comm@easternandoriental.com to voice out. Let’s do this together as the future residents of Tanjung Seri Pinang.
@Tamarind Owner
I partly agree with you that is write to E&O. I have mentioned just earlier, now there is nothing to do with E&O or TNB as far as the power station is concerned. Now it is between the state government and Tanjung Seri Pinang for allocating this land for that purpose. Refer to our area YB or better still YB Jagdeep Singh Deo at Komtar. This will be more effective. You must remember that approval had already been given and further delay here is unthinkable.
@Tamarind Owner, Phang,
I think you guys are not very smart. You should know better that they (be it TNB, State, whatever authorities) can easily downplay your concern by saying as long as it is more than 50ft away with thick walls surrounding the giant transformers, there will be no health impact. Case closed. Complain what? Hahaha…after dinner too free ar? Cancer issue will only surface after 20 years, there’s no way you can stop this.
@Phang
Thank you so much for the info. We should just try whatever ways to address this issue and make sure it is attended.
I agree we should try all means. I am not sure if EWEIN know about this substation and will affect their COD2. Shall we feedback to EWEIN example through their official website? With their power, I am sure CM will give face to them. If EWEIN chooses to be quiet, that means the substation is not really a big issue like we taught!
lol u guys have to gather for 示威，make camp there and stay for few days dont let TNB start the contruction job build substation make news then gov only will consider cancel it haha
@Owner too
Dont bother informing Ewein lah, their COD2 is not going to materialise. They cannot even keep up to their part of the bargain by building the 3 paired roads for the state government. They’re a lost cause. It has been 4 years already and they cannot even commence building the car parks for COD 1 and residents are objecting to their developement.
@Robin Hood
Thanks for your info. Btw, how the residents’ objection works for COD1? Need to learn the way they did.
@Owner too
The local council would circulate notices for objections within a certain radius from a planned development. If you are within the area of development you could fill up the notice and have it submittted with the local council who will then hold an enquiry to hear residents’ objections.
In COD1’s case, the appeals board hearing has dragged on for more than a year and no decision has been delivered yet.