Ramah Pavilion
Ramah Pavilion, an affordable housing development by M Summit Group in Teluk Kumbar, Penang. It is located next to Puspakom Teluk Kumbar, a mere minutes drive from Teluk Kumbar town center via Jalan Teluk Kumbar.
This development comprises 759 affordable units in two blocks of 36 & 38-storey building. It will also comes with wide range of facilities, which includes swimming pools, sky gym, jacuzzi, children water slides, barbecue area and more.
Selling Price (inclusive of 1 car parking lot):
READ MORE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING:
- Eligibility and the requirement of buying affordable housing
- Full list of affordable housing in Penang
For registration details, you may refer to http://erumah.penang.gov.my/
Property Name: Ramah Pavilion
Location : Teluk Kumbar, Penang
Property Type : Affordable housing development
Total Units: 759
Built-up Area: 800 sq.ft. – 1,355 sq.ft.
Developer : M Summit Group
Register your interest here or contact the developer directly for more details
Location Map:
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After read so many comments, seems like RP’s neighbourhood is not so peaceful…Not yet build, already this and that, later all stay together…boom! wahahahaha…
@Yeap
Sorry Yeap I not work in CCTV field, so I do not know the price for full CCTV coverage, but what I’m trying to say is CCTV is just a tools, important is enforcement/maintenance. In the end CCTV is just for show and do no other purpose. It’s like u buying a car without engine. If there is a CCTV but the guard just sleeping in guard post / chatting, even with CCTV it serve no purpose. That is why we as Ramah resident, need form up a committee for people to complain those issue. Give warning to those guard that did not do their work properly and sack them if it’s more than 3 times reoccurring incidence. By that time what’s the point of having CCTV everywhere when guard is not doing their job???
U do know that Malaysia ppl have 1st world law/facilities but when come to enforcement/maintenance is 3rd world mentality. We still need to learn on enforcement and maintenance with other country or at least change our mindset.
But for example if I was be able to provided a quote by anyone with for example RM0.18 ( with cctv in every lift and guard house ) compare to RM0.22 (with cctv full coverage ( every floor, lift, facilities, everywhere) I’m glad to choose Rm0.22 because safety is my main concern. I don’t mind to pay more for better environment/safety. Above rate is example only. Dun come and shoot me.
I’m saying that I’m willing to pay more for maintenance if it really benefit us.
As of now, (my personal point of view, doesn’t mean everyone ) Ramah maintenance rate is reasonable because it have full facilities and covered basic safety such as CCTV. Please do not compare with old condo with old maintenance fee rate. new rate is from 0.15 – 0.30.
OK la…RP is the best la! Ok liao bui??
Best condo in PG, and Malaysia la!
Amazing RP…
Rest in Peace…lol
Yes agree with you. Now we need to pray the developer will really build this 1st affordable housing project in Penang and not take our money and run away. If it really does, all our money will go to drain….. But this developer is cooperating with State goverment so I’m doubting they might do that. Any way see u all 3 years later in Ramah Pavillion
anyway, is good to point out any misunderstanding stuff or question also.
just that, remember, future ramah pavilion community is form by all of us here who sign SnP.
Not understand why “some of the people” not allow other raise their concern/suggestion for discussion, direct or indirectly ask other keep quiet do not question and request this and that….or expect future RP owner when want bangsai then only cari toilet.
As per their (some of the people) request, i’m decided to give up RP.
Foresee future RP committee control by “some of the people”, they expect other RP owner do not raise any concern except their self. If other RP raise their concern during meeting, i think answer from “some of the people” is – sale your house if not satisfy or not happy stay in RP just get lost.
Not sure after 5yrs this going to happen or not :-
Block B one of the lift malfunction, people from block B request repair asap, but committee from Block A refuse because reason is still got another lift, 1 lift is enough for block B, why complain?
But I think this impossible happen, just kidding…
building also not yet raise. not yet even put 1 tiang, ppl here talking about committee already.
haha. counting chickens before eggs hatch.
BTW u raise so many question here also no point. raise it to the developer straight.
Majority comments here are very very hypothetical only. no facts one.
yeah yeah faster reject so other ppl on waiting list for sooooo long can buy.
@lala
Have u get news for ur application??? Good luck to u to get this project. It took me two months too, to be approve by govt to get this project. U can call to mssumit to check for your application.
Wow, i like your comment so much, fully agree with u. How can stop hyuman’s right & ppl’s freedom to talk. These ppl will be either “some of the people” mentioned above or the developer themselves!!
Because the ppl who voice out here all only mentioned their concern about building, high maintenance fee & safety, never personal attack. Sayangnya to lose 1 neighbor like u but there will have other justice ppl come up. Neighbor must unite together to be strong, else the one finally get the benefit will be the business men.
Hmmm… Just feel that you guys are worry too much.. Anybody here will know what will happen in future 3-5 years later? A picture proved a thousand words.. Just a simple thing but you guys make it complicated.. Seems like alot people don’t agree me here.. Go ahead to complain and voice out your problem here with nothing that really helpful to RP residents.. Because you guys only know to talk but never think how to solve.. haha well nvm then i will STFU and purchase this project..
more towards the developer is replying the comment more than the buyers.
this cant that cant.but anyway, people is selfish and developers need sales too
Agree, basically i just ignore them. Some of them still queuing, not even pay 10ks, loan also don’t know can approved, 10% downpayment also don’t know have or not. But keep bang us back when we bring out our concern.
Possibility they are:
1. Male. Straight foward thinker, they won’t doubt when making judgement. Put worries later.
2. Developer
3. Got a rich dad behind, this unit mainly just for them to invent/rent out, they got no concern at all.
4. Total retarded un-cinvilized citizen.
Just pick those give feedback/concern will do.
This is ‘PropertyTalk’ not ‘PropertySTFU’
Do anyone know how much is the maintenance fee + sinking fund for type F (800sft)?
Also is there any other fees?
Thanks.
@Ice
it stated that the maintenance charges is RM2.00 per sqm in SPA. which is equivalent to RM0.1858 per sq. ft. together with sinking fund (10% of maintenance charges) is RM2.20 per sqm. which is equivalent to RM0.2043.
Then u use 800sqft * RM0.2043 = RM163.44 for Type F ( 800sqft).
(exclusive GST) but I know GST is exempted from maintenance fee but some ppl say otherwise.
there are two more fee, Loan Legal Fee SPA legal Fee and 10% downpayment.
For my case my SPA RM2000+, Loan Legal Fee RM4000+ for 323k loan. ( After First time home buyer discount )
this is a comment that will help many make a decision. just realise im still short for my loan legal fee.
@dan still in waiting list. dont want to call them everyday. haha. else they wil get tired of me.
@lala
o.O then good luck. Hope you can get good news soon. U may check in Erumah weekly too. Earlier i also did that and I found out was approved Erumah first then only I call Mssumit for confirmation. [ I was so eager to get this project earlier and was so excited when I saw in erumah online checking (weekly checking) that it was approved and I couldn’t believe it. ]
U can also withdraw from KWSP account 2 for house purchase if you short in $$$. I also did withdraw from KWSP for my SPA & legal fee as I also short of that. haha
Yea. true. Some ppl say RM200+ maintenance fee is expensive but they are calculating 1000sqft ++ , if people apply according to their financial capability, then then it won’t exist high maintenance fee in earlier post. They can always go for smaller size ( 800/950 sqft ) so that their maintenance is cheaper.
Just a helping hand for those who want to know the maintenance fee.
it stated that the maintenance charges is RM2.00 per sqm in SPA. which is equivalent to RM0.1858 per sq. ft. together with sinking fund (10% of maintenance charges) is RM2.20 per sqm. which is equivalent to RM0.2043.
Then you may use xxx sqft (size you choose ) to multiply with RM0.2043
( e.g. 800sqft * RM0.2043 = RM163.44 )
Maintenance should be around :
TYPE A: 1355 sqft = RM 276.8265 +-
TYPE B: 1250 sqft = RM 255.375 +-
TYPE C: 1155 sqft = RM 235.9665 +-
TYPE D: 1050 sqft = RM 214.515 +-
TYPE E: 950 sqft = RM 194.085 +-
TYPE F: 800 sqft = RM 163.44 +-
Wah, that is high. Fiera Vista with 470 units and good facilities is charged RM198 inclusive of sinking fund. Build up is 1400s.f.
One Foresta is only at RM121 for 900s.f with so many facilities. service is long term running cost. Owner can finished paying off the loan after 35 years but will continue to pay service charge for lifetime!
wow..wow..so mahal..how to sustain with my salary?
@Penang
U are comparing 2 things, 1 is affordable housing, 1 is normal housing.
You may be true that FV is Rm198 but I do know some of the developer will put low maintenance fee to attract buyers and raise it after 3-5 years. So if I say after 3-5 years, if the maintenance fee raise to RM250, you still okay with it? (I’m not sure of Ideal developer though, just my sharing of my thought )
Below comment is to General not to you only yea
Another thing other than swimming pool, Lift is also high maintenance and it need to service consistently to prevent if from break down.
One Foresta is 2700 units, it’s a high density condo, of course it might be cheaper for maintenance fee.
There are few type of developer doing:
1) Some developer they include maintenance fee in their sales price, so actually owner already paid for the maintenance fee in advance. So they are able to enjoy cheap maintenance, example Rm150 per month
2) Developer start with low maintenance fee but include portion of it maintenance fee in selling price. Then after 3 years, they increase the maintenance by another 10% or so.
3) Start with adequate amount of maintenance fee and the price is maintain for the next 10-20 years without increasing.
4) Developer start with low maintenance and after 1-2 years, they throw this maintenance to the house committee, then how the ppl there maintain with this amount of little money? Developer will say well, I already pass this to you all ( committee ) and it’s non of my business. Wash hand and walk away.
For now what you can compare is you need compare with other affordable housing maintenance fee in terms of density and total facilities. U need compare same category. Affordable with Affordable. Apple to Apple, not Apple to Orange.
Well of course some will say Clovers have high class facilities, but mind you clovers only have limited units of affordable housing. If you are interested with Clovers, you may go ahead and apply and I wish you here good luck from bottom of my heart. If you already got the Clovers unit, then I feel glad for you.
Just my sharing, I choose Ramah in term of its size. Clover can’t give me 1250sqft with the price of RM358,000 because Sungai Ara area is much more expensive and I know that. Well if you are happy with 800/900 sqft then it’s good for you. You may proceed to choose One Foresta/Clovers/Tri Pinancle/ Other affordable.
Those that say Ramah maintenance is high, well you all may highlight to developer directly instead of posting over here, which is pointless. It’s like U kena robbed and you post on facebook/social media, instead of going to police station to make a report. Another example is U bought a rotten bread/faulty stuff from a place ( e.g. Giant/Tesco ) but you complain to MPPP. It’s pointless.
Well if you want to form a small resident in this talk, so that all of you can go to developer together to feedback, also welcome here.
Another thing I want to highlight is if for example, Ramah did hear you all eh feedback, and lower down maintenance to say RM150-220 acccording to size, but later years ( say 3-5 years ) then the new management increase the maintenance another 10%, will you be happy about it? or complaint again, why increase? all the while only RM150 why want to increase? in the end some people will stop paying maintenance due to not happy with management, what happen then??? things start to breakdown and no money to repair. Maintenance is unavoidable, if you dun like to pay maintenance, I suggest you get a low maintenance fee condo/apartment or get a landed house ( landed house tax are more expensive then condo but still bearable ).
Above are all my thoughts and sharing only, you may agree or disagree. It’s up to you.
Hi Dan, I asked M Summit before, the maintenance is around RM0.18 per sqf
@Yen
True that is without sinking fund
MSummit told me around RM0.18 too~~~
But I’ve signed SPA. It’s clearly stated in SPA, Sinking Fund is 10% of maintenance fee. So I will quote what I typed earlier. Even in lawyer firm (San & Associates) also tell me that it’s no 0.18 it’s more than that.
I believe all those had signed snp for RP already accepted the maintenance fee. We all have found the good reasons and advantages from this project. Good luck to those who are still in waiting list for RP…my future neighbours.
Dan,
I agreed with you.
@Ms Yeap
Human is like that. When price low, no sense of urgency to buy. Compare ‘A’ project so good ‘B’ project so bad, Complain this bad and that no good, When price moves, they say wait for price to come down again. When price never go back to 3 years ago, cry father mother. What to do? You complain and wait till boat already sail off. Only yourself to blame.
Those who complain developers charging high for affordable housing, if you cannot afford to buy, go look for other projects. Go buy second hand low cost. Or any projects that you feel 100% PERFECT (Nothing is perfect). Actually no one force you to buy affordable housing. Don’t kill yourself. Later you buy then got problem paying maintenance. You will be harming the condo community because the maintenance of the condo will be affected. Buy something you can afford now. Next time got more money then upgrade to something better.
Human is like that. When price low, no sense of urgency to buy. Compare ‘A’ project so good ‘B’ project so bad, Complain this bad and that no good, When price moves, they say wait for price to come down again. When price never go back to 3 years ago, cry father mother. What to do? You complain and wait till boat already sail off. Only yourself to blame.
Those who complain developers charging high for affordable housing, if you cannot afford to buy, go look for other projects. Go buy second hand low cost. Or any projects that you feel 100% PERFECT (Nothing is perfect). Actually no one force you to buy affordable housing. Don’t kill yourself. Later you buy then got problem paying maintenance. You will be harming the condo community because the maintenance of the condo will be affected. Buy something you can afford now. Next time got more money then upgrade to something better.
If don’t like this maintenance fee, please don’t buy. Later you can’t afford to pay, everyone suffer when maintenance fee collection not enough. They charge $0.18 PSF is very reasonable. Its just that the unit you get is big so definitely when you multiply, the absolute amount is bigger than other affordable housing. Since now you know how much the maintenance, please think carefully. If you can afford, then ok take. If not, please don’t buy.
@tan
Agree with you.
@tan
Yes. You have my vote too.
Affordable house, condo price but Not affordable maintenance fee lah, you guys still don’t get it. Just like car promotion, cheap price, but dealer will earn it back from expensive service maintenance charges. Kena tipu lah.
But, I will still buy and decide later whether to pay the maintenance fee or not. Sorry to Tan and supporters.
Good luck to all those who still in waiting list for this RP project.
Good luck to all those serious buyers that still in waiting list for this RP project.
@Amazing
It’s ok if you dun pay. But u will be fine for late paying or not paying the maintenance fee. It’s clearly stated in SPA that u agree to pay for the maintenance. If not the management can sue u. So good luck to u if u choose not to pay.
its probably a good idea to pay. cos upkeep of apartment is also important.
When owners fail to pay maintenance fee
no money to service apartment, the value of the property falls, rent drops and the condition of the building continues to deteriorate.
Who’s the final loser? owners.
after developer stop maintaining (maybe 2 years time) suggest to hand over property management to professionals rather than do JMB. JMB usually toothless and no experience
Example
http://www.getan.com.my/property-management
no problem eh… if u dun pay maintenance after certain period of time and it stack up to RM 5000, the management will give u lawyer letter nia, if you still unable to clear the debts, then they will cut ur water, electric, barred you from entering carpark, no access to lift, etc… Worst case is ur house kena auctioned off nia to settle your maintenance debt. Don’t u feel not worth it to let the bank auctioned of ur house due to not paying maintenance ???
dun ever think u can get away by not paying maintenance. Because government already enhance the management act.
Pls la dun trouble ur self to get affordable house if u unable to pay for maintenance fee.
There is a chinese saying ” if u dun have big head, dun wear big hat “
Yes, although for Ramah, maintenance fees might exp little bit…but cannot say don’t want pay o…if really cannot effort, Ramah might not suite you already…Maybe you can wait for newer project, perhaps gov may control by issue some new rules in the future, if to-date got many people complain about maintenance fees…
I don’t want whole building end up like low cost unit =.= Please stand in public views. Thanks.
Its precisely people like Amazing’s mentality that will cause the downfall of a condo. If you are not ready or cannot accept paying this kind maintenance fee, then condo living is not for you. Go buy a cheaper maintenance apartment or low cost flat. Don’t make everyone suffer with you. Don’t “hai lang”!
i guess everyone should just stop arguing too much on maintenance fee. its brewing alot of bad blood here.
lets just have some good constructive views.
we all just want a good place for our family.
@buyer
Its not about arguing on maintenance fee but rather to point out to everyone who wants to live in a condo that this comes with social and financial responsibility ie making sure you pay your expected maintenance fee. Or else the condo will be doomed from Day 1. Its not like the developer is cheating you by not revealing how much is the maintenance fee now. Already its known, so I don’t understand why people like Amazing can say such irresponsible comment “will still buy and decide later whether to pay the maintenance fee or not”. So we as buyers must eradicate this kind of people who is irresponsible and selfish. Why can’t we comment against such people? We have to protect our condo. You know how much problem we will have if we allow buyers to buy thinking its ok not to pay maintenance fee?
@buyer
It’s not about arguing but to educate future potential home buyer like us on the importance of maintenance. That’s what I have been worried about when people say high maintenance and some will people will misunderstand that it’s okay not to pay maintenance. Developer can’t earn through maintenance because it’s clearly stated in Sales and Purchase (SPA). All the fund need to go to maintenance account. We need to educate people on this matter though.
We all future ramah want the best environment for us to stay, not a run down place Because most of us are buying for own stay.
I do however agree with this. GE TAN have been well known for their good management.
Ok, ok, ok, will buy and pay maintenance fee lo but would like pro like GE Tan to handle it, not developer whom tag such a high maintenance fee in the first place. At least lala sounds nicer and polite ma. My point is clear, nobody can ask anybody don’t buy if don’t like the maintenance fee no matter how many votes you voted. Condo don’t even built, already talk about downfall and doomed, si pek suai punya mulut la. PR is supposely a small hat, not big hat cos it is affordable housing for small head ppl like me, small salary nia.
Hahaha, GE TAN……good……?
@Amazing
yea what u said is true. But people need to understand the maintenance fee and it’s all people responsibility to pay to upkeep the facilities. RP is big hat d lo for some people… there is other category ko.. low cost and low medium cost and also subsale market….
@David
David u sound like perli GE TAN….
Aiyo…. house not yet build ko… tiang also not yet up….
yeah not even 1 tiang up. ppl here think toooo much sometimes. .
just relax abit la.
I received letter from developer! wow.
Congrats Sandy~
@sandy
so you receive or not?wowowowow
@Amazing
Your mulut lah si pek suay. Not embarass at all to state you don’t want to pay maintenance even before move in. This kind of people still dare say others for telling you off. Anyone get you as neighbour really bad luck. Its like you want to eat in a restaurant (aka enjoy all the nice RP facilities plus security) but don’t want to pay when the bill comes (maintenance fee). You go tell a restaurant owner you want to eat but don’t want to pay, before you sit down at the table. See whether he/she will halau you out or welcome beggars like you with open arms. Sia suay!
RP is not small hat. LMC small hat suitable for you. Go apply for that.
No need to be so rude brother. if some1 makes a mistake just point it out nicely. can solve one.
Hey guys any Facebook group chat or whatsapps for those already signed spa & loan agreement?
SOLARIA RESIDENCES, 1600sf, maintenance fee only rm165 X,X
The reason why Ramah Pavilion’s sale hard and lose to 1foreste and the clovers is, developer of 1foreste and the clovers setting show house & information counter in bayan baru area, which is close to the construction area of the condo they are going to build. But Ramah Pavilion’s show house & information counter is in Georgetown, they just don’t realize it is far for serious buyer to go to seek for information and to visit the show house. If buyer go up to Georgetown area, they are attracted to buy the house agent of Zubicon to buy S.P. Chelliah already, before they reach wisma Penang Garden.
Solaria residences only have ~450unit condo, all units over 1000sf, but maintenance fee charge rm165 only! Excellent management and good planning
For such project buy a small unit 800sf or 950sf is the best, cheap maintenance.
@sox
ya ke? bagus..thumb up..
where u get this information? People comment in Solaria is about 0.17, so if you take 1600sqft * RM0.17 = RM272. Either u are lying or the ppl in that Solaria forum is lying about the maintenance fee.
If you find out other condo is cheap maintenance then go and get those condo. Posting in Ramah to tell other they have cheap maintenance that we are not able to afford to.
If you so happy, go get this property then~
Yea, I also lazy when need go to town to view the house. But I dun think location is an issue. Because if u want to buy for something, die die also u will go to find out the things u want to buy. U won’t think that place is far if u are a serious buyer. If u in need of something that u want, for sure u will go to that place to find out.
Also Idealsite put it’s RM500psf, so if 1600 sqft * RM500 = RM800,000
I’m sorry but I don’t have that much of money (800,000).
Even if I pay the maintenance fee for Ramah Pavillion at RM250 per month for 40 years, it’s only RM 120, 000 add my current purchase value of TYPE B + 1 Car park = RM388,000
Total for expenses for building is only RM388,000 + RM120,000 [ (RM250*12months ) (maintenance fee for 40 years)]= RM 508,000
@Dan
I heard about this price myself from sale agent of solaria/1foresta. If u want to correct it when u think it is mistake, u can go to their counter which is just in 1world area, opposite Dpiaza or beside the cruise steak house. Please go there to find out and feedback here, hope to hear from u soon.
No matter 1100sf or 1600 sf, the maintenance fee will be RM165. There are <500units condo, low density, giving same facility but cheaper maintenance. That is NOT affordable house but charging cheaper.
Maintenance fee of 1foresta is RM120. I think other people here may want to know about the market price of the maintenance fee, just ignore if u don’t want to know. Please highlight any sentences i wrote that u think i m trying to attack any1?
@Dan
Haha damn agree you. And you forget about the maintenance fee rm165 * 40 years = RM79,200 + 1600 sqft * RM500 = RM800,000. Total = RM879,200
For my type E RM298,000 + RM86400 (RM180 * 40 years maintenance) = RM384,400 only.
Btw Dan u are purchase Block A type B? We have any whatsap or FB group chat for those already signed SPA?
@lilian
No, I did not say u attack anyone and I did mentioned either u or that guy in that forum is lying. So if you did ask that your self, means that person is lying or have incorrect information.
Do you know their selling price for 1600sqft since u ask the agent directly? It’s too late for me to know already since I’ve make my 10% downpayment for Ramah Pavillion. Maybe future buyer can go buy Solaria Residence instead of Ramah Pavillion.
@Genius
Yea, Type A, B1, B is Block A, Type C,D,E,F is Block B.
No, I do not know any whatsapp or FB Group~ haha But I willing to create one, but for what purpose first??? I think chat in here is sufficient.
And do not forget the loan amount because interest can kill you. If u borrow 300k from bank, total repayment is 540-560k in 35 years terms loan. So if you loan more, u also in debt more~ haha.
So if say u put 30k downpayment and loan 300k, your actual house price is 540k + 30k ( downpayment ) = RM570,000. So If you want to sell your house in future (10/20years), please make sure it at least have RM600k, if not you are losing interest to bank~
Just my 2cent of sharing.
@lilian
You might correct, for the maintenance fee RP might charge higher, but we still can afford the property price (which 400k or lower). And for other property (NOT affordable house) with cheaper maintenance, we cannot afford the property price (800k or lower). If i rich enough then i wont trying so hard to get affordable home, straight buy private project wherever i like, but too bad i’m not rich enough. So i just buy a property according my budget. Dont kill yourself because the property.
@Dan
Lol of cause i know all this details and interest, i just asking which type u purchase nya.
Any others here who paid 10% and sign spa already?
@Genius
Sorry, I should have state those comment is to general.. It’s my problem… I like to type everything under one roof, then in the end most people confused.. Sorry for confusing u all….
Below is for general…. ( Because some people thinking buying a house is cheap, actually it’s not. Unless you are from a rich family background, you are able to pay all the payment via Cash and not from bank loan )
And do not forget the loan amount because interest can kill you. If u borrow 300k from bank, total repayment is 540-560k in 35 years terms loan. So if you loan more, u also in debt more~ haha.
So if say u put 30k downpayment and loan 300k, your actual house price is 540k + 30k ( downpayment ) = RM570,000. So If you want to sell your house in future (10/20years), please make sure it at least have RM600k, if not you are losing interest to bank~
so many projects. so many ppl confuse dunno which one to buy. haha. BTW anyone buying type B1 ?.
the size is smaller by 15sqft from type A. but still same price. anyone know how to ask developer revise ?.
@buyer
The different of type B1 & type A = type B1 have 3 bedrooms living room bigger and type A have 4 bedrooms normal living room, the sf almost same slightly different only.
@buyer
Type A = 1355
Type B1 = 1350
Different by 5sqft and the price is same 398,000.
Initially I wanted Type A then they told me sold out, they then promote Type B1 to me, but after I calculate it’s better for me to take Type B, so that I can have the extra 40k for renovation later~ Maybe it’s God Will~ haha
Hi,
Just no offense to everyone, just ignored those who comment about this condo or that condo is good. It is your choice to choose what is worth for. What i wan to highlight here is no point to be so calculative, the developer press the calculator better than all of us. Chinese always said “pull long and replace short”. Either you wait or go for others it is up to your decision. If wan to buy house do your homework and make your decision, is no point arguing here and there. People will do his homework too cos buy house is not buy sayur….
For maintenance fees, it is well recorded. Any implementation is up to community. Lets said we paying for 10years and it can sustain for WHOLE life maintance fees, after that we no need to pay anymore hmm just example. It is depends on management how to manage the condo with that money. Hopefully DONT MESS up..hahahax you can have a look on how summer place and Dpiazza manage their condo. It looks quite good for me hahahax.
Hopefully Ramah Pavilion is not hantu house or spider web hahahax
So…Solaris Residences not part of the “Affordable Project” la…?
Cheh~~LOL…i tot is “Affordable” with so low maintenance….
Just can’t be ignored for those comment other condo lower maintenance fee. I do agree with u (bout the “gia tng po teh”in hokkien) but I like to voice out my opinion to others so that they will know and compare base on their senses.
I just dun know why so many come up with maintenance issue in this thread and non happening in other project ( e.g. Clovers/ Tri /One Foresta ).
Most of them like to promote ideal property here. Maybe they want promote that project to affordable people like us….. hoping we can additional throw in 100-200k to upgrade from this project to normal project~ haha
Yea I also hope we have good management in future ( I dun want it end up like low cost flat ), we are hoping for the best environment for us to stay. This house is mostly for us to stay for another 10-30 years. We all just want to have a shelter over our head with enjoyable facilities.
actually type B1 is 1340, means 15sqft less. means RM 4400 lost . Hmmm 4400 is still some amount of money
What i mean is not asking people go to buy solaria. Don’t try to change topic.
Why “none affordable house” charge resident lower than “affordable house”?
What i mean is why solaria giving same facilities, but can charge lower maintenance fees when their density lower(<500units)?
As before this, the "developer" say RP have to charge you higher because RP is lower density(750unit) when compared to 1foresta(2600unit).
Dear all,
The maintenance charges that RP charges is based on the forecast planning did by the engineer. Other project they can tell you how low is their maintenance cost but end up the fees collected is not enough to cover up the expenses. If the current rate proposed by RP is too high and after first year of operation where the all units are 80% occupied, if there is a lot of excess fund, we the residents can decide to reduce the maintenance charges. The developer of RP has done their part in helping the future committee member to ease their job in maintaining RP.
As what Dan said in his previous conversation, the developer can set their maintenance charges as low as possible to attract the purchaser but end up the total maintenance charges collected is not enough to cover the expenses, then this will drop down the value of our property.
Good!
But how many existing property in Penang reduced maintenance fee? can share the real case? reduced how many %?
@Dan
I guess you are from msummit.
Thanks for backup and explain everything for RP.
No need deny or admit…..I just guess nia.
@BT
ya la, i never heard price of anything will go down. Can give example?
if u buy ur house at 300k, after 3 years go up to 400k, r u willing to sell at 350k?
Committee doesn’t mean will protect resident, no benefit to take who want to be committee?
When there is business then there will be corruption, which committee will reduce price causing them have lesser $ masuk pocket? No increase your price already big fortune
Dear BT,
I am not sure which existing property reduced in maintenance fee but i know that most of them suffer from insufficient maintenance fund to maintain their property where the expenses is more than the income.
Are you fr developer ? I hope so, cos I worry to stay with buyer and neighbour like you, already flex muscle like Taiko even before one tiang built. Bro, pls be polite and humble lah.
I stayed in LMC before ma, this is my upgrade ma. You like high maintenance fee, why not you pay extra lah, donation ma to prevent downfall and doomed of condo ma.
@BT
May i know how many existing property in Penang that having low maintenance fee & won’t increase after few years and they really take good care of the facilities?
Woah woah woah… straightway talk about corruption already????. may i know which commitee u have worked in ?. u saw any corruption using ypur own eyes?.
if yes did u complain to MACC.
PPL dont simply say corruption. if really corruption then we can complain to authorities.
suka hati mak bapak ko cakap corruption. haha
Mr Tan is abit harsh. but all of us need to do our part. no need ask ppl donate one la.
all masing masing fulfill their duty enough already. all happy
BTW nobody ans my question. the B1 unit is 15 sqft less but same price. anyone still buy B1?..
Sorry I misunderstood you, because you didn’t post your comment clearly. I will just ask you 1 simple question, if a developer today start with low maintenance and increase the maintenance fee after the developer pass to new committee member ( e.g. Start at RM100 for a new condo, later 1-3 year, the new committee find out that maintenance is too low and unable to cover the expenses, they decided to raise the maintenance fee to new level ( RM150 ), or worst they ask each unit of the house to pay additional RM500 to repair some breakdown machine/stuff) ( At the end of the year, maintenance team will show the fee collected and the expenses in the noticeboard, then u will know whether if there is a extra or short of cash )
Will you be okay to pay additional RM50 per month and the RM500 ( lumpsum)?
For me, if the fee are for good use, I 200% will pay for it because this will really affect the facilities/community inside the condo.
I believe M Summit did a great job here, because it’s doing it’s responsibility to protect those who pay for maintenance fee and prevent those unable to pay for maintenance from buying.
Well if you able to tell me any affordable housing out there with the same value able to get me same sqft with lower maintenance fee, please do let me know the project name so that I can tell my friends to apply for that condo, because I will share with them that there are possibility those people who buy the house at there will suffer future due to not enough maintenance fee to upkeep.
It’s like our savings for retirement, u want to save RM100 or RM10 per month from young so that 30-40 years later u will have a comfortable retirement or u still need to work at 30-40 years later to support your life.
Please refer to all my replied comment and tell me which part make you think I’m from the developer. If I’m a developer, I will be no need to headache for my Loan Legal Fee which I need to withdraw from KWSP…. Because I believe developer will give their staff discount when they purchase this project.
Please refer to above question I ask to Lilian. Will you be able to pay extra maintenance after they review the maintenance fee ( 1 year later )????
It’s easy for developer to start with low maintenance fee, but when they pass to new committee member ( they no need to care anymore )
If after you read all my previous replied and you still think I’m the DEVELOPER~~~ blah blah blah, then I will have to think that you are either:
1) denial mode that reality hurts u badly because u just know how to complain and never find solution
2) weak analysis skill
Well if you still insist I”m M Summit developer, then those who promote IDEAL property here is IDEAL property agent/developer???
Typo Error:
Well if you able to tell me any affordable housing out there with the same value able to get me same sqft with lower maintenance fee, please do let me know the project name so that I can tell my friends NOT TO APPLY for that condo, because I will share with them that there are possibility those people who buy the house at there will suffer future due to not enough maintenance fee to upkeep.
sometimes ppl just backup bcos they already buy this project.
BTW are u from ideal?. alleays running down this project?
No need deny or admit…..I just guess nia.
@Genius
n park, e park, pearl garden. wat else?
Hi Guys,
But what the lawyer ppl say, usually Developer will be the Management for 2~3 Years only right?
If we really dis-agree with the price the Developer charged us, isn’t it after 2~3 Years, our self can form the community to manage it our self right?
(Ex find a good, cheaper management company etc )
Or we cannot do like this?
hmm is quite funny, high maintenance fees = good upkeep? low maintenance fees = bad upkeep? Management community masuk pocket sendiri?.. Is it this problem happen before? oh crap! do we need to black and white all the maintenance expenses for facility? and also how much money collected from maintenance fees? i thought that this will be announced/letter every year by the management to every resident? Where i try sum up all the concern here:
1. Maintenance fees
* is it too high for facility upkeep?
* any implementation to be added?
* bagala security guard do his job bo?
* send letter to all residents about how much money collected? “easily for you to calculate and verify management got cheat you or not?
* how to handle irresponsible resident that not paying the maintenance fees and damaging facility?
* how we select community member?
Now i dont see any taing yet! should this topic highlight to management now? or We should asked the engineer come and show us data why the maintenance fee so high?
May be is good you guy go and see summer place that charge “high maintenance” how they manage! for what i see most of the resident is happy with that!
Yes after 3 years we have to manage it ourself!
I think they never stay in condo/apartment before…. so they dun know management team will print out the fee collected and expenses every year.
May i know what is the prize of property that you mention above?
Agree with you. xD
@buyer
Btw if i have enough money maybe i will go for type B1, 3 rooms with big area and same with type A (each floor 1 unit only)
@Dan
You are funny.
Just like text book, when it cost only rm10, but the price that “seller” and “buyer” deal and put into the statement can be rm10 or rm50 or rm100. As long as they can cover, who can question them?
Just like when the ship’s selling price is 100billion but what stated in the announcement can be 100000billion. No matter how, these people will able to tally up the account, what we can do with that?
Just like renovation time, residents in certain place are forced to buy material or take renovation from specific party, what can they(residents) do?
This is so call minum kopi, black and white or announced/letter SO WHAT?
U say till like that, I speechless liao. U Win.
Ahh, that sales person from mssumit must be giving me wrong info~ lucky no take B1. Thanks for your information
@Genius
500k but location wise still win this.
2nd, the maintenance fees is the same since they started.
3rd, RP is not low dense.more like high dense with those 700++ over residence but is the maintenance fees cheap. i would say no. it is above par of what it should be.
with the 700++ over residence they dont need to have such a high maintenance fees.
if not y should it be called as affordable house?
so, the price should be affordable and not the maintenance? well done btw.
anyone can tell the price of the total maintenance that is needed per month? is RM100k enough? if can neglect those sauna room, it would have save RP a lot of money.
btw, someone mention that maintenance is calculated by some engineers but this would be the 1st project by msummit. condo project i meant. so, is this a CSR by msummit to get confidence from people so that they can develop more condo units? but wat about when others knew about how much is the maintenance for this kind of units.
sadly, if i have more money, i would not go for this project either. it is because it affordable and i cant afford the maintenance and i cant even apply the F units as it is already sold out.
@Dan
Wow!!! First time see Dan surrender and give “win” to others. So cute LOL
@mei
AGREE
I just received call from msummit, saying i got the below 300k unit.
Also just got to know the mntnance fee is over rm200 for this unit.
Initially I applied for 198k but sold out.
Now really dunno should I accept or not. Monthly installment plus mntnence fee is quite high.
Honestly the mntc fee really is not affordable for me.
Worried if reject will I get another offer in future?
Sigh…since already made affordable house, y not made affordable mntce fee too…
@Jack
Dear Jack, thanks for your info.
hope other can share to us so that we know the trend…
but i think either maintain same rate or increase…
I also want to know
anyone survey b4? can share?
Now I’m interested to know this not RP…
Thks.
@Dan
Aiyo, why so serious?
as I mentioned, “I just guess nia”, guess also not allow?
How to stay with u under same roof?
luckily now i’m not interested RP….
But if you really want to clarify, share your real name here and share your facebook page lor… lol
haha..just kidding.
Agree your 1st sentence.
@Dan pls allow me use your statement (Don’t angry and over react because i use your statement ya) “Please refer to all my replied comment and tell me which part make you think I’m from the developer” haha…
Actually i’m no problem if you or other think/guess i’m from ideal…you think i’m then i’m lor.
Can change ur nickname from “Buyer” to “Seller”? Coz i guess ur r from msummit as well….haha…just guess nia.
@fan
sorry, I also want to know
I think you can refer @Dan or @Buyer/Seller?
haha..don’t angry ya @Dan & @Buyer/Seller.
@buyer
ok lah, buyer. Like that speak nicely lah, we call it spirit of neighbourhood ma.
Honestly, RP & The Clovers are top two affordable house with highest maintenance fee among all affordable project out of town area.
so, which affordable project is really affordable in penang nw?
price and maintenance fees..
Hi Farah..same here previously… worry will not get any project uf reject…then i booked with 10k…after tht clovers call me…but still stick with rp because of size and package(any how clovers start to reduce their package price ady now)…then when i go SNP only now need 2xx maintenance fee for 1050 unit…
so…really is up to u…think wisely…
@BT
COME SHARE OUT YOUR FACEBOOK NAME OR CONTACT NUMBER. IM WAITING FOR YOU
Progress, piling about 50% done.
@tj
HOW YOU KNOW
@kpk
Went to the office and asked today
30% booked so far. Not bad.
u can take your guess and shove it up where the light doesnt shine.
BTW still no ans for my question.
anyone buy the B1 unit?
is 15 sqft less but same price. anyone ask developer y same price ?
@Amazing
I am definitely not developer. My tone is to stress the importance of paying your dues and you some more dare to openly state in a forum your intention of not paying maintenance. This is highly irresponsible. That’s why I liken it to going to dine at a restaurant without paying. If you still think its ok, then good luck to RP community. I guess you don’t mind staying in a run down condo, and its ok with you if the price cannot appreciate. That’s why I bombarded only you, Mr. Don’t-Want-To-Pay-Maintenance.
But since now you say you will pay, we take it you will act what you have promised. So no issue anymore.
It is quite demotivating for the people who brought RP with such alot bad complain and comment. what can i say is be more positive. Yes i brought Ramah Pavilion, as human nature we sure protect our decision as we have no turning back. I really pray ramah pavilion not ended like shitty place to stay, i also hope you all choose and think wisely before you buy any property. I went to see Isantorini ytd, hmm location wise is really perfect and there is 2 facility swimming pool with different theme. Location good, price afford, maintenance afford, can think about it hahax
agree. so many demotivating commnets. come on guys. those who bought, lets make sure this place is good in the future.
i-santorini??? r you serious?? do you know how congested is the location?? SO JAMMMMM
@cal
yes agree with you. not worth to invest
Hi all,
My first time here.
I was just informed I got one unit type F (800sqf).
May I know for 800sqf, maintenance fee around rm170, is it high??
Sorry, first time buy house.
@^.^
quite a nice place too.
congraz!
But the developer keep annouce type F already sold out since last few months ago, unless they are giving wrong infor? Why?
There will be no air corn’s compressor yard for master bed room & living room no matter what type u buy.
Which mean we will need to put the compressor from master bed room & living room at balcony?This make the space of balcony become smaller. Some more the hot air from compressor of master bed room will flow into living room while we open the sliding door of living room(unless we on both air corn of master bed room & living room).
Buying affordable house mean we have to accept lousy cost saving design?As building yard for air corn’s compressor will add their cost?
Is air corn’s compressor yard for 2nd&3rd bed room available?Or we will need to put the compressor at wash area which we sun our cloth?
air/corn Yard is available for 2nd n 3rd bed room, but no air/corn yard for master bed room n living room.
@lang
they told me still have units available for Type F, but they are a lot of people in waiting list so is very very hard for new applicants to get. if me I will also tell you sold out because no point for you to wait unless you give government undertable. ==
@Josephine
you are very lucky to get one.
@yumi
I’m considering I Santorini 400k package, not sure is it worth the price but I like the location, just the density is a little high which makes me reconsider now, anyone of u know the quality of Ideal group?
Not sure…Ideal is famous what…
But currently me work at Ideal The CEO. I’m not sure still under their management or not.
But the LIFT is sucks, i trapped inside twice and everyday 2 or 1 out of 4 lift will be breakdown.
By the way, it’s leasehold isn’t?i saw from the property-talk there. But it’s ok if you don’t mind
i-santorini 400k for 850sqft.
easily you can buy ramahpavilion at less than 400k for 1350sqft. you gain additional 500sqft
maybe ppl concern remote area.
leasehold and freehold different buyer different mindset.
some said, leasehold 99 years, i also no longer in this world.
some said, freehold also same, later government will take back your land and compensate you.
@nah
Balcony already small, how can put compressor? After put compressor, will not go out to balcony anymore, mean having balcony like don’t have, as it is used to put compressor which release hot air
@lang
@amelia
Thanks.
Actually when I apply early this year they also told me type F sold out.
But I still apply for type F because I can’t afford above 200k.
So I also very surprise to get it.
But the staff told me type F no balcony and also the third room is very very small.
So I’m not sure whetheris it is worth to pay for the monthly mtnce fee of rm170 for this small unit.
Compressor cannot put outside of the room for each room and living hall? need to put in a compressor yard? it’s a compulsory? Yea I also agree put in balcony will make the balcony full of hot air and I won’t be going there much if this is so….
Another thing I want to update future buyers because I just get the letter from M Summit if you want take the optional renovation package either 18k++ or 22k++, there are two type of payments:
1) by installment for 20 months, 1k++ each month till 20th month
2) you can pay lumpsum 18k or 22k and get a 5% discount on the reno package.
@josephine
to me 800sqft for less den 200k is really affordable. if you take out 200k and want to buy a house outside, you wait n years also will not get one. if I were you I wont let go
@yumi
Yea, true, but they said freehold/leasehold, if a developer/govt want to redevelop that area, they will compensate you eh, regarding of freehold/leasehold.
Leasehold you still can renew it by paying if there is no need for redevelop in that area.
Yea agree with you, teluk kumbar is remote place~ in the end depend on people whether they like remote place or tourist place~ hehe
@josephine
congrats to you. if you think maintenance is high then maybe you can consider one foresta with low maintenance RM121 (highlight by other people). the only downside is high density. If you don’t mind density, then you may reject this RP and apply for I-condo (one foresta )
wah u really lucky lo get this unit
actually for Type F, I’m currently staying with my parent in a 800sqft apartment in 3rd bedroom (small room) and trust me the size is acceptable la if it’s a single person… enough for a single bed, 1 3 feet wardrobe, small cabinet, small table to put ur electronics stuff~ the 3rd room size I’m staying currently is the same with this RP.
@Newbie
I’m okay with Leasehold title as I’m buying it for own stay, my parents both love that area and it’s close to my relatives. My only concern would be the quality of the building and hopefully it won’t get rent to foreigners like Bangla in the future considering the safety of my parents.
@liz
U can go view all ideal developer project in the past in this forum to get ur answer. I think most buyer here is first time buying home including me….
After praying for so hard. After get all crossed. Finally got the good new frm Msummit last week ^^ …. Now on stage .. loan application.. any suggestion or advise from who of you that been doing survey on all the bank? Which bank offer best package? N best service..
Then i think should be fine for u to go for i santori…base on that locations…i think chances to become bangla condo is very low lo…haha…the foreigner i mean is more towards tourist….homestay or what
If buying condo, not much different for LH or FH. If landed properties den might have some different in value after 30 years.
@Newbie
If that’s the case I’ll feel really happy and feel safe to buy. It’s not that cheap so the only hope for me is they build it with good material and the building will be well maintained. ^^
BTW, I went to RP too and the layout is really nice. I really love the rooftop garden too and I’ve been doing a few research on MSummit, this will be their first condo project and fingers crossed hope it will be really beautiful upon completion.
Finally we all can own a house 😀
i choose ramah due to bigger sq ft, and freeehold.
what you guys think?
@Newbie
If that’s the case I’ll feel really happy and feel safe to buy. It’s not that cheap so the only hope for me is they build it with good material and the building will be well maintained. ^^
BTW, I went to RP too and the layout is really nice. I really love the rooftop garden too and I’ve been doing a few research on MSummit, this will be their first condo project and fingers crossed hope it will be really beautiful upon completion.
Finally we all can own a house 😀
@Amelia
You are right. Even if have 200K and below, those are all second hand low cost house which is mostly occupied by foreign workers, like those in relau area.
@Dan
Thank you for your valuable info!
I decided to go ahead to purchase the type F!
Hope would be able to meet up u all, my ramah neighbours in future!
@yumi
Same with u. But some people choose base on location (whether near to their workplace or not). Some choose base on their budget (installment & maintenance ). Some choose facilities. I believe many more haha. I thought saw ur name at other forum. Thought u buying other project.
anybody know why msummit is not updating the progress pictures of RP anymore? it has been 4 months since. no progress for 4 months?
@Dan
haha. hopefully RP is well maintained and nice.
nice to meet you future neighbour.
Me too choose this becos bigger size. more comfortable if anyone visit our house
@Dan
U already sign SNP rite?.. Is there any special terms and conditions we should pay attention to?
any special clause?
@trex
yea signed SPA ( Sales & Purchase Agreement ) you call it SNP haha. umm no special terms ba.. maybe is like maintenance/sinking fund/trash handling something like that lo… should be common for all apartment/condo. The lawyer told me that It’s standard Schedule H for developer.
You may refer this link below:
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/borang/lesen/Schedule_H.pdf
Those blank will be filled by developer and let you sign.
I have received a letter of offer price to park only for payment of what they want to upgrade to type in terms of what they do not show off my house was on the website friendly to me for references pavilion
I hope m summit offers an upgrade package displays a choice between p1 and p2 rm18000 rm15200 in the pavilion friendly website allows me to make reference to the original
anybody here taking the upgrade packages?
@yumi
Yeah mostly will take the packages with full tiles, i believe 3-4 years later wont get back the prize as m summit offer now. Plus when i get the keys my house is already 50% complete.
@love
there are no that kind of package…. only have this two Package 1: 22,500 , Package 2: 18,200
@Genius
Agree with you, maybe 3-4 years later a 6-10% inflation in price so better take the package offered haha.
I went to M Summit last Saturday to pay for the renovation package. I did ask them where to put the compressor and yes indeed the compressor will be put at balcony and wash area for my case. Type B. I wonder if those without balcony where they put the compressor. Better to ask M Summit staff if you have question.
To general people who wonder to take renovation package or not:
I will just share my case with you all. After you view all the document, you need to sign that document that you accept this package and the price. Think twice before you take the package. My purchase is type B, when you take the renovation package, they show you a document in a drawn layout, they will show you before and after layout for you ( e.g. electric points (before/after ), etc…. ) then at 1 page it will tell u where for you to put the compressor. for Type B, living and master room compressor will put at balcony at the top side, for bedroom 2 and 3 the compressor will put at wash area lower there they prepare a yard for it. I did ask them if we can put the compressor outside of the building. they say it’s too dangerous for the aircond service people if we put compressor outside of the building cause there is no safety precaution for them.
now only do piling la… different won’t be much…. foundation stage ma… you can always call go developer for photo ~ instead of asking us here in this forum~~~ I dun think developer will update here but to update in their facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/msummitgroup/photos/
@Dan
It is ridicules that there is no compressor yard, compressor will be put at balcony and wash area. There is no wooden door which can cover the exit between washing area and kitchen fully, mean the hot air from air corn will flow into living from wash area.
Mean when wife is cooking at kitchen which is beside wash area, she will sweat a lot because the compressor from 2nd & 3rd room will keep on releasing hot air. Else, will need children in 2nd & 3rd room not to on air corn while wife cooking. Or to build a wooden door between washing area and kitchen which can cover fully, but once the house is fully closed which the balcony’s door & wash area is close, the house will full of cooking smoke & oily as the only exit the cooking smoke can go out is through hood.
Buying RP mean your house will be always be hot, hot air always circulate in between your house:
1) Totally no on air corn=> hot.
2) On air corn also hot, hot air from balcony & from washing area will always flow into living room.
3) As the balcony between neighbor been designed to join together(except Type A), mean if u no on air corn, the hot air from your neighbor(which his balcony’s door closed while he on air corn) will flow into your house if you no on air corn & keep your balcony’s door open.
4) Unless; 24 hours on air corn which the door at balcony & wash area always closed.
Problem is, can residents in affordable house on air corn 24 hours?
@Osm
I can accept like this configuration and you haven’t live in there and this is just what you think what will happen.
If you not happy, please proceed to highlight to M Summit
Btw I won’t on Air Con always not sure about others, so no issue for me~ my air cond will be switch on only when temperature really hot and visitors coming.
@Dan
As the balcony between neighbor been designed to join together(except Type A), mean if u no on air corn, the hot air from your neighbor(which his balcony’s door closed while he on air corn) will flow into your house if you no on air corn & keep your balcony’s door open.
You no on air corn then the hot air from neighbor’s compressor will flow into your house also. The balconies between neighbors join together. Go & see the layout, except Type A, all balcony from Type B to E is designed as U shape, which the master room is at outer side & the balcony is deep inside in between two master room, fresh air from outside hardly flow into living room as the balcony is deep inside as compared to master room, master room at left & right will block the wind.
@mand
Currently the apartment I live with my parent also join balcony, they have aircond too so far the hot air didn’t come to our living room. So I trust M Summit developer design as well. because the layout are the same like RP. So I have no problem. If you worried so much, you may highlight to M Summit ( developer )
@Dan
@Osm
Did phone msummit to ask about yard for compressor, answer get is disappointing, same as what u all mentioned above, u don’t mind but some of us mind, as me and my family will on air corn frequently. My sister’s condo is at golden triangle area, so far all the high condo around here is having yard for compressor but not put in wash area which we sun our cloth here.
2015 housing but doesnt have an aircond yard. but when we hang the cloth in the balcony then say it is not nice but don have aircond yard is nice?
basic need is a must but don tell me having an aircond yard is for those luxury condo?
@mindy
agree with you..
@mindy
Yea some will mind about it. But I don’t think M Summit will do anything about it since the layout already in SPA. Unless you able to get many people (maybe >50%) to gather to complain about this issue. But when that happen the building will get delayed….. So I wonder how it will go~~~
Hello everyone here, may I know if we plan to sell the affordable home after 5 years, we will have to sell to ppl who are applying for affordable house? Is this rules available? As I asked the banker, they said within 5 years will need to go thru state consent but after 5 years we can just sell according to market price
@liz
Yes within 5 years only listed 1st time buyer. But the price is willing seller and willing buyer. State will not interrupt with the sales figure as long it’s first time buyer listed in state list. After 5 years can sell to anyone according to market price.
After 5 years, can sell open market but to those that meets the affordable home criteria.
@Dan
maybe u can just tell that to m summit as from ur post, u r like having some secret relationship with them
or maybe u r one of them too
@Sky
If no need to go through state government after 5 years, then how to ensure the buyers meet the affordable home criteria in open market?
@Sky
@Ken
Hi SKy, you are wrong bro… there no restriction after 5 years…. only if you want to sell within 5 years then need to appeal to state government.
Please refer to a quote from earlier reply and you may click into the link to check your self on the new housing scheme for affordable housing.
no la. after 5 years can sell to anyone. no restrictions after 5 years.
BTW this air con thing must highlight to developwe. its unacceptable to put the air con inside wash area. alot of hot hot air.
@mei
Haha, unfortunately I’m not from M Summit. You may proceed to highlight to developer instead because I’m happy with the unit I purchased. I have no complain. If you want to feedback, please gather with others who like to join you so that you can highlight to them~ Cheers
@Dan
which unit you get? and which floor make you so happy?
@imwhoim
@mand
When msummit forget to put yard for compressor into the design of building, they simply suggest the residents to put the compressor in wash area. Suppose wash area can be renovated to become wet kitchen and only put the wash machine at the corner.
It is so irresponsible, they forget to include it into the design then they suggest us to do it in this way which there is no other developer of condominium do the same before. Can anyone over here list the example of condo which put compressor in wash area?
I salute on this kind of suggestion!!! First high rise project for msummit but they are so careless.
No water tap beside toilet bowl, charge higher maintenance fee, now suggest customer to put compressor in wash area, they really push the patient of customer to the limit.
@imwhoim
Unit 6~ Mid Floor. Unit 6 is corner unit so I rest my case. I have no complain. Instead of complain, I would rather think of a way to renovate in future so that the hot air won’t flow in.
What I can say is that for now the layout already in SPA, so I don’t think they will change if we have little feedback from residents. Because if they do change SPA, all the owner that signed SPA before will have to sign the SPA again. Maybe there is legal matter behind as well. I’m not sure. If you all want to shout in this forum, well go ahead and shout here in the end nothing changes. Best if you all really want to highlight is only through majority votes and press this to the developer instead.
@hell
I’m thinking to ask developer if we can put the compressor outside building instead of wash area. At walkway there outside of wash area and kitchen there. Or anyone else have better suggestion that we can suggest to developer?
Actually i saw all the LMC or LC they dont have any yard, but also they put their compressor outside building? Can we just put outside our building instead of put at balcony or wash area?
they all make a fuss to complain don’t have this, don’t have that. They think this is their project…. I’m saying we need to find solution rather than complain. complain you can’t get anywhere since the layout already approved by government and already in SPA. All like to cry father cry Mother…. really is complain king.
@Genius
Umm, yea old building don’t have compressor yard and they put outside building…. Currently the apartment I lived with my parent, the compressor also put outside of room near the windows. I ask M Summit can we put outside of the building they say it’s dangerous for air con service people cause there is no safety net for them to service if they are living in high floor. That is why they say put at balcony and wash area. Actually I can accept compressor put at balcony but not wash area. because when you switch on the air con in living room, you will close the balcony sliding door so the hot air won’t be flowing in for sure. As for wash area if indeed the compressor cannot be put elsewhere other than in Wash Area, then have no choice but to close the wash area door when bedroom 2/3 on the air cond. Anyone else have idea maybe can suggest to developer. More voice to developer and hopefully they can come up with something for us.
Hey guys, for those experienced guy,
anyone paid the Legal Fee and Stamp Duty all those stuff yet?
Mind to share a little?
Any stuff i need to take care of?
For those SAP agreement almost 2K
For those facility agreement almost 4K
Are we entitled any discount? for first time buyer?
@Newbie
I shared earlier…. mine is 2.1k plus for SPA. 4.2k loan legal fee for 323k loan. These are already discounted price for first time buyer. 10%downpayment.
Please view earlier post I did share on each type maintenance fee.
When take house need pay 3 months maintenance fee in advance.
About the upgrade package, worry on the plaster ceiling. After sometimes, wonder the white podwer will fall down.
About the upgrade package, worry on the plaster ceiling. After sometimes, wonder the white powder will fall down.
@elvin00
Not sure bout M Summit workmanship, so far my parent apartment plaster ceiling done by contractors no white powder fall down. Lived since 2000, 15 years already no issue…..
@elvin00
heyy! dont worry about that bro. M summit always build landed highN project so is no problem for that. Lets us wait and see!
@elvin00
About white powder, it is true that after sometimes, the white powder will usually fall down. But it is too tiny so you can’t see it with naked eye. You can do survey in internet.
Ya, M summit always build landed project, first high rise project for msummit but they forget to put compressor yard into the design of building, they only suggest the residents to put the compressor in wash area.
When you ask them where is the location of cctv, they will answer dont know. When ask is cctv available in lift, they will also answer dont know.
(see from previous post)
But when u ask is there possible compressor yard been added later on, they will say cannot because the design & layout already approved & is inside SPA already. Why not they answer actually there is a few of CCTV only(maybe 1or2 at guard house there) instead of answer dont know? Because they know it is a few, so they think of answer don’t know first?
When you ask is possible the security been controlled by floor instead of block, they also will answer they will try, but usually will try mean cheat you at first but at last will not be provided, let’s see 3 years later how will it be. I will not see because I have rejected the offer, but you still can see. After you see, please drop your comment here, so that for those who have rejected the offer(as they mentioned in previous post), they can know, either to regret or rejoice, thanks.
But no matter how, as long as the developer don’t run away with your money, get the house built, get OC pass within 3 years as they had promised, and their building don’t encounter leakage problem like 1w0x1d, it is big fortune to buyers already.
Seeing so many people comments on no compressor yard.
I got one question.
Mine is type F, no balcony.
So…where do I put my air cond compressor?
*worry*
@Josephine
You may ask developer and share ur story here. So other type F owner will know.
@victor
Yeah most important they get the house built, the rest all small matter only.
Btw i was told by m summit that cctv are available in lift, and not every single floor will have cctv, it will cost more maintenance fees, for where is the location of cctv i got no idea, they just told me they will put the cctv in various area and access card for lift lobby to ensure the safety, and for guard service in the lift lobby residents can decide need it or not, i feel this is MUST have at least 1 guard stay at the lobby.
@Josephine
Although i have balcony i also suggest to hang outside building nicer lo, wont be so hot.
@Genius
Yea Agree with you, need get the house build.
@genius
But I thought we r not allowed to hang outside the building?
I dont agree. It is just like when u pay to buy a new car but not a used car. Is it as long as the new car can jalan then it will be ok for you?Even when the air corn of the car is not in good condition?
When you buy a new car, you expect to lock your car by using remote control but not by inserting car key into key hole right?How if the design of the car make you have to unlock your car by inserting car key into key hole but not using remote control, can you accept it??Remember the car still can jalan.
How if the designer of the car forget to put the security system into the car that when anybody try to break into your car, the alarm system of your car will not sound, can you accept it?as the car still can jalan.
When you complain that your car have no alarm/security system, the car seller only tell you to buy extra lock to lock your gear box instead of complaining them to make improvement, the seller tell that you should be grateful when the car sold to you is functional to be driven on road, are you ok with it?(in the case of ramah pavilion, they forget to put in compressor yard into house drawing)
Features of product sold should be given in conformity with the advertisement published and in conformity with the standard customers’ requirement (in this care is basic facility on high rise building), this is customer right. Even it is affordable house, but ramah pavilion is published as condominium level affordable house. When this and that are not available, not try to make excuse by telling it is just affordable house, so customer should not request to ask for improvement.
@mand
Please go feedback about your thoughts to developer. I think from their point of thinking Compressor yard maybe is a optional design, so they didn’t put in the design ( I just guess, dun shoot me ) It’s not like no Compressor yard you will die or what. I think there might be people out there that might not happy if there is a compressor yard in design because it take up some space of their house they purchase. maybe 50sqft or more. Not sure about that just guess again. Anyone with better idea on the compressor yard built up area would be nice to answer this question. If anyone else have other update from M Summit staff, please share here. So that we future owner will know if there is any latest update from them.
people nowsadays, give cheap house but want 5 start facilities and this and that.
Like that better go and buy Eco Terrace or Silverton
After seeing all nice comments here, no wonder those buying ”affordable” housing still cant escape from the low-mid income bracket. Its like buying Proton Wira and change the badge to Mitsubishi Evo Lancer. If its were me being offered this ”affordable” house, I will keep quiet and just accept them. What is there to be proud about.
Pity M Summit front line staff that need to deal with the nice ”affordable” buyer.
@Go4mainland
Although Eco Terrace or Silverton, or no matter how perfect the building is, also got ppl “hiam east hiam west” one la..
@Genius
Eco Terrance or Silverton buyer has buying power, they can walk away and buy other properties. Does ”affordable” Ramah Pavillion buyer has it? You do know what is ”affordable” right? Read the comments want CCTV, aircons yard, even SPA also needs discount.
This is like go to hairdressing saloon college and ask for Taylor Swift haircut from the trainee.
@beckscum7
Support you. If you have money, you can choose. In affordable the most you can do is choose the project that suit you. Like what people said. Got Money, buy good car, no money buy national car and no air bag also can’t complain~ this is reality~~~ and it hurts low-mid income earner.
@Dan
@beckscum7
Ya. Agree with you 2. those who complaint this complaint that they all are not qualify buyer and just wanna make those first time buyer confuse only. Some of them maybe already not qualify to buy the affordable home and also no money to buy private project again they jealous and wanna cari pasal one.
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