Lai Lai Lai, sapu sapu sapu…..

Anyone have latest detail on this project?? What is the actual location? Near to tesco? What is the launching price..??

I quite interested too. Can somebody else send the detail? thx

OMG!! The greeks are invading our land!! What happened to Kg Warisan? Is Kg Warisan going to SQUAT right beside the tall & mighty Santorini? Is this the only thing our state planners can think of nowadays – extract every ringgit and as much ringgit as you can from our land by building tall greek condos for the mat sallehs? *sigh*

Santorini
Island in Greece
Santorini, classically Thera, and officially Thira; is an island in the southern Aegean Sea, about 200 km southeast of Greece’s mainland. Wikipedia
Area: 28.19 sq miles (73 km²)
Island group: Cyclades

Wah. 988 unit!!! That a lot.

Tanjong T will be very crowded. Will not be a good place to stay. Better stay away.

What a high density of project

This project was previously called the Dara by udaland and then changed name to the Seaquiile also by udaland and but they still can’t get approval. Now they team up with Ideal. So the land belongs to Udaland and the developer is Ideal. Located next to the Brezza, behind vantage shop lots and Marinox is in front.

Low floors all confirm blocked by Marinox and Jazz Residences already. Must buy very high floors.

Ideal good at high dense project.

Must stay away from Tanjong T… now already so jam.

Tg tokong jam? Are you from Penang, must be from the south….it takes me 10 mins to get to gurney plaza from tg bungah. How’s tg tokong jam? Lol

@Abu

It should be RM1000 /sft. Let say the average is 1100 sft then it will cost RM1.1mil.
RM1.1mil x 988 units = +- RM1.1bil just for a project!!. Let say the developer will earn 50% from there. It means that it will bring RM550 mil profits just to develop this project. I think the developer just eye on profit but less in town planning.

@Lim
Quite Agreed about this

Maximising profit is the job of developer, maximising quality of life is the job of our state. Who’s not doing his job now?…:)

lai liao! lai liao! huat ah!!!!!!

I think ideal properties was engaged because of their expertise and the huge resources they have. They are very succesful in large scale condos and their plan of creating a whole new township in south West near airport is very successful. Now they are going into high end markets where buyer money is still plenty. I think this tanjung pinang location, Ideal created another hotcake. Nice units sure gone by now.

I think ideal properties was engaged because of their expertise and the huge resources they have. They are very succesful in large scale condos and their plan of creating a whole new township in south West near airport is very successful. Now they are going into high end markets where buyer money is still plenty. I think this tanjung pinang location, Ideal created another hotcake. Nice units sure gone by now.

lol :
Tg tokong jam? Are you from Penang, must be from the south….it takes me 10 mins to get to gurney plaza from tg bungah. How’s tg tokong jam? Lol
@Abu

But take forever to reach bridges. Road narrow. Stay away from Tanjong T.

@condoland

ya lor, A.Ooi and his associates will reserve the good units first, then they do early bird launch for the remaining units at RM900psf, by soft launch, they increase to RM1000psf, and by official launch it will be RM1200psf. Then, A.Ooi and associates will slowly “remove the stickers” from those good units they reserved on day one, and sell at RM1400psf.

But, our state authority is doing nothing about that! Oh got lah, they build some apartments next to the tombs for the middle class lor. Then again, we really don’t know how much has our state given away to these mampu-milik developers in return for building the affordable homes…..:)

Will be super congested. Take forever to reach bridges. Stay away.

It will be highly congested in traffic by the time all of high density of high rise is ready especially along the road toward gurney drive with its existing infra.

Uda is BN people.. Ideal is DAP people so to get approval, team up with DAP people in Penang to get approval.. easier

How can a condo with 998 unit consider a high end project. It too too high density. Try to imagine if 30% of the buyer are ah tu ah kaw. They will do what ever they like and didn’t pay maintainer fee on time. It will bring a big problem to the propeties.

It is true, it is not an ideal for own stay in such of high density property…. personally, I would rather stay far away from such of congested area. it is over crowded…

@tuakong

In Spore, as part of the project approval condition, gov will ask developer to specify exactly what price they want to sell and then not allowing them to change the pricing moving forward. Furthermore, the gov will give the developer only a set time frame to sell all the units, failing which heavy fines will be imposed on developer. This will reduce the room for developer to manipulate the price.

In PG, I think your state is sleeping.

@Singa
Penang kia always tot Penang is a country but not a state.

@ezalor

Spore is a small country, so there’s no state, so everything can fall under “federal”.

Msia is a big country with vast demographics difference from state to state. If you rely on federal on everything, things will be less effective. As for land and town planning matters, your state has all the control and power, they should do the necessaries. You guys are starting to be a laughing stock in Spore when you try to blame everything on federal!

This place lack of affordable housing. Ideal should build affordable housing at less than 400k here. Leasehold some more.

Leasehold cost RM1k per sq ft. To be honest… way to expensive.
Wait for Ebola virus spread to Asia and economy will crashed. Then only buy. The price is really crazy for Penang people to purchase it. Don’t be a slave to your property just like most Singaporean.

@Elmo
How come you cursed like this….no money you sit diam diam la…..

It is not a curse. Just stating the fact and possible scenarios that may happened. Every economy up and down is a cycle and this is a known situation. Just a 2 cents of advise and it is personal choice for buyers. Furthermore current BLR already up y 0.25% and it is a lots of $.

look like a lot sour grape theory…

@Elmo
people hope the business will get better..earn more money…buy bigger house…
you hope the economy down….ebola come…buy cheaper house…?? what the ??

@yoyo

Who doesn’t want good economy growth? Of course everyone want it. We need to be aware of current situation and what is happening in the world now that will impact our hard earned $. Likewise I already mentioned it is still investor and buyer choice to invest.

All the facts I’m stating are not made up. It is in the global news everyday. I maybe wrong as price may increase again and economist may still will make wrong assumption. And furthermore every country have bell curve of economy of growth. This is fundamental.

aiyo like that also argue ah?

This is not built for you guys lah, it’s built for the rich and the foreigners lah.

Should be around Rm880 /sft, RM1k way too high for high dense project

@Abu
If you want to get to the penang bridge then you should not be considering this area. Should consider Mah Sing.

If I am Ideal, I would start pricing at rm600psft and proceed from there onwards to rm800psft.

Since they are just the developer and not land owner (Udaland). Not to mention all their views will be blocked by Marinox and it’s high dense.

Ideal is not a reputable developer, so don’t assume they will do a good job. It really depends on the main con they are engaging.

@Abu

Go to bridge for what? Go to work ah? If you still need to work, then maybe this place is not suitable for you. Most people here don’t have to work anymore. They just let their money work for them.

yalor, Abu..why not buy property in mainland? Bigger and cheaper..u dun need to cross bridge…no traffic if u stay in kulim area..1 stone kills multiple birds..tg tokong very very happening, lot of tourist love hanging ard that area…

@fong
@nana

u dudes hanging ard tg. t the happening place and do nothing everyday kah? i jealous larrrr.

@Abu

Don’t be a “sua pah kau”. T.Tkong is not a happening place. In fact, there’s no happening place in Penang. It’s just a small town, with goofy & geeky tourists cycling around the heritage areas. C’mon man! Wake up!!

@Abu

The reason T.Tkong is getting expensive is because the developers are very good in manipulating property price, sell more and more to foreigners where their currency is worth 3-6 times of ours. Even a rubbish collector from the UK can buy our “expensive” properties, and subsequently “displacing” our young, well educated & hard working engineers from staying in this area. And who made all this possible, a big thank you to our state admin. Bravo! Let’s give them a round of applause and let’s encourage the developers to build more and more “unaffordable” homes for the foreigners!!

@fong

The perks of hanging ard T. T days and nights – get to know rubbish collect from the UK!!!! I jealous.

This project is surrounded by all buildings… there is one LMC apartment going to be build right next to it by E&O and Brezza on the other side; one more big piece of land behind jazz and dunno for what; 2 blocks 30 storey of Marinox infront. Definitely no panoramic seaview as claimed……

@Abu

Salary for :-

(1) Rubbish collector in UK –> £26000/yr (MYR 150k)
(2) Car mechanic in Japan –> ¥3,800,000/yr (MYR 125k)
(3) Janitor in US –> USD45000/yr (MYR 150k)
(4) Policeman in Hong Kong –> HKD300,000/yr (MYR 150k)
(5) An engineer with Honours Degree in Penang –> MYR50k

Yes Abu, you should be jealous that we get to rub shoulders with people from high income bracket, while these foreigners must be laughing why we’re so stoopid to be selling our properties away to them, and deprive the truly deserved locals.

@fong

Really jealous lar u can rub shoulders with them days and nights. Why u said u so stoopid to sell properties to foreigners? Puzzled larrrr.

@fong

I thought inflation is global. It has to do with QE 1, 2,3 and now infinity. So asset prices goes up because easy credit and money printing. Global effect because every reserve banks in the world are printing money like tomorrow never dies. Nothing to do with politics bro. It is economics.

Rubbish collector with MYR150K/year can afford this???
Errr, the collector eat rubbish meh?

@fong
It seems you are so patriot as the local right is not well reserved based on the phenomenal as you have indicated, partially, you are right, if you look into the matter in picture, perhaps, you may further evaluate the current strength, my question is… how are we going to attract foreigner or investor pump their money into our state to stimulate the economic, what is Penang so special to invest my money into this place.please share your thought if you still think that we have the bargain power to persuade foreigner investor to invest their money into our country without giving in a little bit for long term investment.. my 2cents.

Just because they can’t buy your residential properties doesn’t mean they won’t invest in your state, right? Do you see Intel buying any residential properties? Sony? BBraun? I don’t think there’s any “productive” foreign investment interested in residential properties. No?

Properties is non performing sector, instead of selling land, building more high rise properties, wake up Penangities ! Look into increasing household disposable income prior giving out green lights to real estate development. What happened to Penang FDI recent years?

Fong, you are way off

Not all foreigners can buy these places. Foreigners can also mean africans living in USD 1 per day

as for your UK rubbish collector on 26,000 per year, he also has to pay tax, pay rent or a mortgage and feed himself or his family. Where to find the excess money to buy a Penang property ?

Yes there are many foreigners with money but don’t go thinking all foreigners have way more money than you do. What is happening in PG is no different than what is happening in other places. Unfortunately developers will target who will pay the most, go to central London and try to find any normal grassroots English people living there. Can not, its all foreigners

@fong
As simply, if you think the property in those area are manipulated, you may stay away from that, no one will stop you from buying or not buying.

Back to ultimate question, what make Penang so special if we stop from developing, please think twice, with the current stand, do we have bargain power to persuade foreigner investor invest to our country, how? do you think that foreigner investor will come by itself?

@nd4spd

Can property development create more direct and indirect jobs for local? Why stop development when there is demand? Puzzled larrr.

property development stimulate domestic economy creating chain effect from hundred of industries

@Abu @kevin tan
Looking at current momentum growth, this would consequently create more jobs related to real estate/property temporary, drive in domestic spending, bolster domestic consumption for a short period of time. Just look at Penang FDI, construction sector is not even 10% of state GDP, the 2 main sector still manufacturing & service field dominate state’s GDP.What else can they offer in the long run? Can they increase household disposable jobs..high pay jobs? Typical Asian kiasu mentality will buy properties, you buy I buy, and yet rental yield is low in Penang.

@fong
(1) Rubbish collector in UK –> £26000/yr (MYR 150k)
(2) Car mechanic in Japan –> ¥3,800,000/yr (MYR 125k)
(3) Janitor in US –> USD45000/yr (MYR 150k)
(4) Policeman in Hong Kong –> HKD300,000/yr (MYR 150k)
(5) An engineer with Honours Degree in Penang –> MYR50k

Aiya, your quoted example above, so hard sell meh.. Just go and persuade rich PRC China buyers benefiting from stronger yuan will do, just like what they did in America, snapping up real estate..:p

@nd4spd

Manufacturing is long term? Long term cheap labor is it?

tuakong :@condoland
ya lor, A.Ooi and his associates will reserve the good units first, then they do early bird launch for the remaining units at RM900psf, by soft launch, they increase to RM1000psf, and by official launch it will be RM1200psf. Then, A.Ooi and associates will slowly “remove the stickers” from those good units they reserved on day one, and sell at RM1400psf.
But, our state authority is doing nothing about that! Oh got lah, they build some apartments next to the tombs for the middle class lor. Then again, we really don’t know how much has our state given away to these mampu-milik developers in return for building the affordable homes…..:)

like your comment.

Singa :@tuakong
In Spore, as part of the project approval condition, gov will ask developer to specify exactly what price they want to sell and then not allowing them to change the pricing moving forward. Furthermore, the gov will give the developer only a set time frame to sell all the units, failing which heavy fines will be imposed on developer. This will reduce the room for developer to manipulate the price.
In PG, I think your state is sleeping.

like your comment too. I think Png and Malaysia should emulate Spore ways also.

@KKTan,

We should not just emulate, we should do better. Spore serves as a good reference, it allows us to foresee the pitfalls ahead of us (since Spore is so many years ahead of us) and tweak policies to gain better outcome.

Hi Steve,

If I’m way off, you must have already fallen off the cliff, talking about Africans living on USD1 a day!! Hahahaha!!

And when I gave salary figures of UK rubbish collectors, you actually think all the mat sallehs you see in TTkong are rubbish collectors from UK? Hahahaha! The fall off the cliff must have seriously damaged your brain, or were you actually born that way? Hmm.

And then suddenly you’re in central London looking for a “normal english people”? Hahaha! I’m having tummy cramps now!

@james

I know a taxi driver by the name “james”, any chance you’re him?

@Abu

Did anyone say anything about stop development totally? You mean if we make it difficult for foreigners to buy homes here, all development would stop? But I thought the “property experts” claimed that only 3% of total transactions are by foreigners? No?

thisproject sounds good..very near to tesco

ideal property group website also cannot be surf i dont think they can develop a good condo project and quality neighborhood and nice atmosphere to live. and sure no sea view only apartment view , breeza view, jazz condo view, Marinoxx view & Straight Quay view all building surround view…

i dont know thier projects in town but heard that they are doing well in bayan lepas area.if this projects got the potential.wish to buy for investment.

@fong
There are so many people by the name of James, sorry, I am not the james that you mentioned.

@fong

u r the one who complained about foreigner buying property in Penang… now ok pulak…

Years of economic stability since the last ’97 meltdown has made us forget that if a crisis happens again, those who have their asset mainly in properties would have no way out, and no way to convert their asset into something secure, but to watch their asset depreciate in value.

Called Ideal, really no additional info available, still the same “Open for register only” but they cautioned only to register directly with them as they do not engage any agents to market for them.

iraq :
Years of economic stability since the last ’97 meltdown has made us forget that if a crisis happens again, those who have their asset mainly in properties would have no way out, and no way to convert their asset into something secure, but to watch their asset depreciate in value.

Even if prices dropped, if the owner have holding power, the property price will pick itself up. You don’t have to compare far, 1997 – 98 recession, 2000 pick up. Property prices at that time were already 5 – 10% higher in comparison to 1997/98. The same properties back then, if held by the owner would have made more than 200% returns. A 1,000 sf. unit in 1997/98 that is approximately RM180K would be approximately RM500K. The whole purpose of investing in property is to hedge recession. If you can hold the property, you are bound to make money (provide that you didn’t choose a lousy property) Recession will depreciate other assets such as cash value, share values, unit trusts etc. unless your investment is in another country that is not affected by the recession.

Fong

I think you are right, I must have fallen and hit my head. Must have been about the time I bought an expensive condo in Tanjong Tokong, yes you are right us Mad Sailors you see around TT or BF are not collecting rubbish for a living. Some have holiday homes and work overseas (me) and some have retired already. Whilst I see that selling expensive properties to wealthy overseas people causes issues locally, this is not a unique phenomenon to Penang, as mentioned before it happens in most places. Whilst the state govt may be accused of letting the developers get away with putting profits over local interests, this is how all governments work sadly. Slowly Penang is becoming more prosperous and hopefully this will drip down so everyone benefits

@Steve,

It seems you’re making more sense this round, slowly recovering from your brain damage I guess.

“Whilst I see that selling expensive properties to wealthy overseas people causes issues locally”…I hope our state gov has the wisdom of seeing that too.

“this is not a unique phenomenon to Penang, as mentioned before it happens in most places.”….this sounds like a lame excuse for inaction.

“Whilst the state govt may be accused of letting the developers get away with putting profits over local interests, this is how all governments work sadly”……..not all gov pls, Spore has put in quite a few measures to counter this, and they are not about to loosen things up anytime soon.

“Slowly Penang is becoming more prosperous and hopefully this will drip down so everyone benefits”…..The “material prosperity” (as in the visually apparent high-rise buildings, expensive designers malls etc) from Hong Kong, Tokyo to Spore has actually made the working class “slaves” while enriching land owners. Rich-poor gap is widening at alarming rate. Spore has started to realize that (with recent poor showing at election), so they quickly put something in place. You talk to a working class hongkie, he will tell you superman Li is nothing but a blood sucking ba5tard.

Fong

yes slowly HK people are wising up that Li is no super man, he is a greedy ba5stard that has gotten away with too much for too long. He was the ultimate owner of the vessel that sank killing 39 people 2 years ago, I don’t recall he ever made a press conference or made any public comment on it.

Singapore is a very well run enterprise, much better than Hong Kong but instead of having Mr Li and a few of his other crony developers who own all the transport and utility companies who have the sing gov that own it all. There is no perfect place, HK people are screaming and shouting for democracy, they fail to see there is no democracy its all just big business interests at the end of the day

Any action will be taken if the landlord didnt pay for the maintenance fees? @Lim

Booking starts. fr 720psf worth buying?

How much per square foot?

RM720psf is not cheap, but sounds fair for this area.

I just register for E&O Executive Suits yesterday during their Mid Autumn Celebration.

The starting price is only 700 psf onward, furthermore it is freehold.

@TBC

E&O Executive Suits only RM700 psf onward? Only open for E&O previous buyers? If that is the price and cheaper than I-Santorini and furthermore freehold.

It’s stated leasehold, why suddenly become freehold.

E&O? You mean those buildings beside straitsquay that look like low cost flats?

@siaopau

Low cost flat also ask for 700psf, really siao..

@siaopau

The building besides straits quay I believe is The Jazz Residence condo….that one not cheap also….u say it looks like flats? LOL

Btw, I have no idea E&O still have vacant land for it to build the Executive suite, except the reclaim-island that haven’t start work…

E&O Executive Suits is next to Jazz Residence

@joe

I think what siaopau meant was not Jazz Residence, as it is not being built by E&O. What siaopau meant was Quayside, that I agree looks like low cost flats in Bandar Perda. LOL.

I had a visitor from outstation just the other day. So I had to give them direction over the phone for the way to Tanjung Tkng roti bakar behind the low cost flats. As they were coming from town, so I said “turn in to the right at the traffic light junction just when you see the blocks of low cost flats on your right”.

They actually turned right at the Tesco junction, then stopped their car right after Tesco and said to me “The low cost flats are just right in front of me on my left now, so how to get to the roti bakar?”. LOL.

TBC :E&O Executive Suits is next to Jazz Residence

what is the size for Exec Suite? will it be 1-bedroom for even big size 1000sft ?

can’t find any info about the Exec suite at E&O website also…

3 rooms with 1042 sq ft onwards

Ok ma if 1042 sqft with 700 psf. Available to book or buy now?

#tbc
Is it the land btw jazz and marinox.? It’s a big piece of land….

I checked with E&O staffs, besides The Andaman series condo project, there is no more E&O development on the current straits quay area, except the new phase-2 reclamation island in future.

I dunno which E&O staff mention got 1000sft with 700psf price…

haha……sometimes ppl just like to live in their own ‘dream’….

Anyone who is interested at E&O project (Executive Homes)

You may contact my friend

Mr Vincent at E&O Sales Gallery…

I just registered my name through him yesterday.

Heard I-Santorini will be Affordable Home. Hope it is true. At least some affordable units available for the public.

leasehold leh, can invest ah?

cannot invest, don’t buy.

@joe

Now do’t know who is “day dreaming”. May be you spoke to E&O office cleaner.

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2014/12/the-tamarind/comment-page-1/#comment-319845

who should we contact to know detail regarding this project?

house :
who should we contact to know detail regarding this project?

This location had been changed to affordable home and no longer i-Santorini.

Wah! I Santorini really became affordable home but not cheap also cos RM300K and above then later I am afraid they might add in reno package or upgrade package and car park package become 500K to 600K

Should be RM72K =P

So any new news from this project? how much is the pricing?

i heard this land plot had become their affordable housing projects in tg tokong….??

when go their sales office ask, they tell ‘this I not sure, that I dunno”…… X_X

49 storey? OMG! In case any emergency cases or lif break down, then will be a big problem.

@Joey

Even for a 28 storey building, you think life is going to get any better when the lifts breakdown during an emergency?

It seems condo projects in this area is getting very high dense, even E&O’s Tamarind has 1000 over units, although the price is averaging RM700psf. All these developments are going to make condos like Brezza and Marinox with about 300 units density appear to be super low dense.

anyone knows if this is leasehold or freehold? Commercial or residential title?

Leasehold and commercial title. But with residential utilities rate I believe.

@xmen

Last time I was staying at level 20, I already felt quite inconvenient and annoy. Most of the affordable condo projects which launch lately are above 40 storey. I think it is really too high!

Tamarind 1000 unit s+ this 2000+ units…. 3000+ units in one area… Wow!!! Can u imagine the traffic congestion???

@Bthunder

Tesco business will be booming with so many high dense projects around.

I want to apply eithr i-santorini or granito project. but difficult to choose which. one at tg.tokong, another at tg.bungah. one leasehold, one freehold. hai……

who get this project already?
still had any chances?

Those who have property trying to apply will be penalized if found submitting false info!

WHAT? 2000+ units on such a small piece of land? This is even denser than Hong Kong!!!! Since when you Penang folks have to live in such bad condition? Is it necessary? Your state authority must be out of it’s mind to approve such density!!

@goldfinger

Heard is next to Tamarind. Too many high dense there. Not worth to invest.

Hi landoffice, are you a Penangite staying in Penang? Why is the authority approving all this high dense developments? Your town planners should be able to do better than this! There is no need at all to build such high dense condos. Do you guys have a rail system to transport people? You build high dense condos only when you have good rail transport.

When will it be lunched? commercial title?

We welcome our future neighbours. The more the merrier…

Show unit is ready for viewing. Whoever that already viewed, please share more here with the rest. Thanks.

Just went to see the show unit, look nice!

@seanying
May I know show unit location? walk in?
850sqft? How about maintenance fee?

@BT
Yes, walk in will do. Show unit located at Level 3 of Vantage. 850 sqft. Not so sure on maintenance fee but should same across all I-condo rate.

@seanying

Have you ever come across any show unit that is not nice?

and where is Vantage … ??

@JY
Thanks for your info.
same design with one foresta? will try go t. tokong coming weekend.
Show unit open for view this Saturday (public holiday)? Sunday?

@fcuk
If not mistaken, vantage located at jalan t. tokong, near to tesco t. tokong.

Interesting, but i didn’t see the price so far…?

Seriously guys,…”Affordable” is not meant for INVEST ok..Please refer back to the Gov Guideline…
”
For those who keep thought they getting a unit in Tanjong Tokong, which is a very happening place, lots of foreigner and tourist, in the future, my I-Santorini unit sure will raise and i will earn a lot.”
Please stop dreaming…

Does anyone familiar and knows how’s Ideal Property workmanship and quality of building they build ?

Im alan here chiam wei lun, just request the icondo i santorini.
I have been serve very greatful from Ms.OOI and she solve my problem about gorventment issue. Appreciate.

Hi, anyone have plans to buy i-Santorini? Let’s share your opinion here.

@BT
Maintenance fees not mistaken is RM 121

@seanying
Same with One Foresta?
Why not RM120 or RM130? Just curious.

No one plan to buy i-santorini?
No further discussion regarding housing price, facilities, design, size & etc?
Anyone willing to share more?
Only know that area will become congested….

@BT
I’m interested to buy but yet to receive any information from them. There r a total of 3 packages. For 350k and below it is 850sqft. For 400k, they will extend the yard so total sqft is 900. The piece of land is leasehold and I think the remaining year now is probably 85++?
There is only One exit to the main road which I feel might cause some jam in the future.

My current concern is I’m seeing property price dropping or slowing down lately. Not sure if buying 400k property with such high density is worth the money onot

@liz
Price will most likely stagnant for a 1-2 years but it will rebounce back~ because we are in Penang Island. So just choose a project you think it’s worth to invest for own stay. But I believe more and more project will be coming in because of the state affordable housing scheme. if this is not suitable for you, you may wait for future project ( pray for better project in future ( no Guarantee ). So I would say most likely we middle income just pick one house that you feel worth and just go for it. Don’t think too much. But they say got Tri – Pinancle/ Granito and this I-Santorini in Tanjong area. so just see which suitable ba.

@Dan
Thank u so much Dan. I have too much worries, lately there’s earthquake in Msia. Though this is not happening but kmI’m quite concern on the safety of 49 storeys building under a reclaim land. I might be thinking too much but there are a lot to consider. Once I buy the condo, I’ll also be tied to commitment and might not have the freedom to change my job. Haha…I’m seriously thinking too much =P

@liz
Thanks for your sharing.
Why need to wait answer from them? Suppose they have all information unless this project not approve?
300K included 1cp? 350K & 400K package included 2cp? 400K package included reno?
Same like you, need to think and survey…….
But i’m yet to view the showroom, will find one day go to view the showroom.

But some people said maybe in future got chance change leasehold to freehold?
I’m not sure for Penang but other state answer is yes.

@liz
Yea earthquake is one major concern. I didn’t know this project built on reclaim land, thanks for the information. What I can say is we human is a small object compare to universe…. So I would say if reallly happen nothing we can do also. We can’t predict what will happen the next second. One second I’m alive, next second maybe airplane crash in to our building or accident happen. We wouldn’t know. So I would say just live your life happily instead of worrying too much. Worrying too much will cause a type of sickness call depression~

Yea another thing is when we buy house, we will be come slave worker for monthly installment. If you aren’t ready for that, please don’t buy house yet~ haha. But still you need to save for future house deposit. I believe we will be like in Singapore situation in future where the apartment cost is millions…. that time we need pay 10% deposit of 100k… Don’t know when this will happen but I believe soon.

Just think and choose wisely on which project you like and go for it, don”t think to much. Because worrying kills us not helping. Worrying will also cost you to miss the property u liked and the price will rise in future.

YOLO ( you only lived once )

@BT
Hi BT, u rwere right. 300k 1 CP, 350k 2CP, 400k 2CP+Basic Reno package. U can visit their showroom at 9.30 to 5.30pm at Vintage 3rd floor every Thursday to Saturday. They are closed on PH and Sun. I’ve heard some places are converted from leasehold to freehold but not too sure about there. Hopefully have chance to convertconvert. BT r u considering any of the projects now?

@Dan
Thanks Dan, ure such a nice person. I feel much better after reading it. Really agree with u we only live once why think so much. I’m not too sure if this piece of land is under reclaim land, will need to check on that. I saw ur comment at RP u r buying it, congrats to u. My friend is buying there too ^^
I’m so happy finally all of us at this generation is going to have a house soon. It’s not easy when it comes to our time property prices have gone up so much. wishing the best for everyone and hope the developers are all genuine in building good quality home for us. Then we will have less concern in choosing the house n can pang sim to buy with our hard earned money ^^

@liz
yes, i just went Vantage, location perfect but design copy exact/same like one foresta, different is extra 50sqft if take 400K package.
Just sharing my personal thinking, compare between RP and one foresta/i-santorini, msummit more transparent than ideal, i only can compare these 3 project because i didn’t view and survey for other affordable project.
but got pros and cons, RP good in term of size and price but maintenance fee not affordable for me.
I-santorini location perfect, leasehold still ok but must take 400K (personal thinking) because 300K & 350K without yard (400K extra 50sqft is for yard) for washing machine and no place to bask the cloth….unless you put washing machine in kitchen or washroom….
decided to wait, if no more affordable suitable for me then no “luck” lor…

And personal thinking, ideal staff really not profession and bad attitude.

@liz
Actually I wanted to buy house 3 years back but parent didn’t agree. then the price of property sky rocket 100% some 200%…. which make us unable to buy property…. Now my parent regret didn’t listen to me, we missed the boat I believe other also feel the same. I believe this property price fluctuate will not happen again in near future ( 5-10 years ) but I believe future 10 years below property price will go up 3-5% yearly in slow mode ( which I read on some property article ).

Lucky is Penang State government make a effort to do a affordable housing scheme for us ( but I believe some will complain for the price they set 200k – 400k max ) I would only say Penang government did great job to boost tourism and cleanliness and stuffs but one bad side effect is property price go up too fast.

I also believe the federal government did lots of measurement and stuff to prevent speculation ( you can see the effect start to kick in recent years, the property price start to slow down ) which is normal back 3 years ago.

So I would say just go for the project you like cause property price will not drop unless there is a economy crisis happen.

In Addition, one Thing I want share is when the property price is high, you wait say hoping for price to drop, then when economy down, you say wait again now economy no good, better wait and see. In the end, you no buy any property because think too much.

When economy good, you no buy. What make you think when economy no good, you will buy it.

BT :
And personal thinking, ideal staff really not profession and bad attitude.

I c some people comment about Ideal staff before, really that bad attitude ka? I don’t know cause didn’t deal with Ideal staff before. Before this when I read earlier Post, I thought they were just trying to give Ideal Bad Name haha.

So BT, wish you good luck for future affordable housing project.

liz :
@Dan
Thanks Dan, ure such a nice person. I feel much better after reading it. Really agree with u we only live once why think so much. I’m not too sure if this piece of land is under reclaim land, will need to check on that. I saw ur comment at RP u r buying it, congrats to u. My friend is buying there too ^^
I’m so happy finally all of us at this generation is going to have a house soon. It’s not easy when it comes to our time property prices have gone up so much. wishing the best for everyone and hope the developers are all genuine in building good quality home for us. Then we will have less concern in choosing the house n can pang sim to buy with our hard earned money ^^

Glad I’m able to help you. I dun like people to worry too much because my father have depression and he worry a lots. So I would say dun worry. When there is problem, you will automatically find solution, no point to worry things haven’t happen.

Yea, M Summit ( Ramah Pavillion ) is the first Private developer to start affordable housing. Wow, congrats to your friend as well I would say I will be the first white mouse to stay in affordable housing by M Summit haha. First batch ma Well, Good Luck to you then

The rm400k package also includes the renovation package.

@Dan
Haha…you can try go to nearest ideal showroom, you already bought RP but my suggestion is no hurt to see see…
I think depend case, those look “high class’ will get better response/service from ideal staff.

Maybe they feel proud “backup” by state government because at least their company help to decorated bayan baru aroundabout….their company big name hanging there…

Thanks Dan, hope all can find their own dream house in near future….

@BT
Yes I have the same thoughts as u, jus wait and see if I can get it. I have to agree with u that their attitude is a little less friendly and they are not informative with the projects. But according to them, they will only have the details in July…hopefully they will have the full catalog like RP which explains all the available facilities and etc.

@Dan
Haha first batch shouldn’t be that bad. I have gone thru their catalog and like the concepts, especially the rooftop garden I wish ur father speedy recovery , a lot of ppl r dealing with depressions especially ppl who thinks a lot and easily stressed out. Maybe u can suggest him to talk to ppl who is positive and able to sort out his problem . or to work less and focus on his hobbies

@liz
Thanks for the wishes. He dun have any hobbies… i think that is why he like to think alot of things…

@BT
Hmm maybe no idea. Haha.

The artist impression of ONE FORESTA looks more beautiful than i-Santorini.
Hopefully Ideal will come out with a proper catalog including all the details very soon. I’m hoping there will be rooftop garden for i-Santorini, in that case, no matter which unit we drawn, we can always enjoy the same view from the rooftop.

Hello, why nobody comments on this page? Anyone interested to apply?

Let’s share your view here. I have applied for this, will I be the only one applying? Hahaha

Any concerns from your side?

I saw for the RM350k and RM300k package, there’s a pipe inside the toilet while for RM400k package, the pipe is not there @@ Anyone knows will the pipe be there in the future? It’s different for One Foresta, there’s no pipe for RM350k and RM300k show unit.

Because the 400k package is renovation package.. already consume the pipe inside the wall.. and for the original unit surely it will have pipe inside the toilet..

I see, but for One Foresta, why the show unit doesn’t show the pipe outside the wall ya?

Hmmm.. that one need to confirm with ideal.. because all the toilet suppose got pipe inside.. unless u consume it then only will not see it..

@Fy
Thanks FY!

Hope there’s news for this project soon. Not sure if they would change the deal to the one like Forestville or not(half public half affordable). Current demand seems low. I’m still in huge dilemma because of the super high density and 49 storeys building. Not sure wanna purchase or not =/

Did anyone get this project ? Any news on this ?

Hi, May i know any show house available for the above I – Santorini house?

@Celine Loh
Yes Celine, it is located at Vantage near island plaza, you will see the signboard at 3rd floor

Hi…. its there any changes to buy directly from the developer? cz im vy interested to own a unit…..

@Susan
Hi Susan, right now they don’t have information yet. However, i-Santorini’s feedback seems to be better than One Foresta, they might not have plan to change to public.

I just went to the show unit a few weeks back. I understand from the sales person that he can’t give out any information as this project is still pending and under review, there might have some plan changes which he may not know. Therefore, they will let us know when they have a firm answer on it. [ I kinda understand their frustration ]

On a side note, I noticed the theme for this project is blue and white. They must use good material of paint to maintain the color~

Hopefully the affordable house are built with equally good quality as other condos because the land price for affordable house should be cheaper and it’s built with higher density. 😀

All affordable homes buyers have to get approval from Penang State.

If unsure, kindly go to Perumahan to get confirmation.

@Parker

Hi, is the show unit still available? Where is it?

@Angeline
Angeline, the show unit is at Tanjung Tokong, Vantage Desiran I think.

Here’s a few concerns for me before deciding to purchase this unit:
1. Total density: 2155 units.
2. Leasehold title: remaining yrs might be 80++
3. Price per sqft based on RM400k/900 = RM444.44 (which is not cheap)

Fingers crossed that this project would be built based on condominium facilities and quality because the price paid is relatively not cheap considering its high density and leasehold title.

This project is under Top 10 view of Aug however nobody comments here?

What is your view of this project? I’m in a dilemma, wish to hear your opinion.

@Parker

RM444.44/sqft not cheap? What would you consider cheap?

@Parker

maybe everyone saw your previous comment then nobody dare to buy d so no comment lor. LOL.

Parker :
@Angeline
Angeline, the show unit is at Tanjung Tokong, Vantage Desiran I think.
Here’s a few concerns for me before deciding to purchase this unit:
1. Total density: 2155 units.
2. Leasehold title: remaining yrs might be 80++
3. Price per sqft based on RM400k/900 = RM444.44 (which is not cheap)
Fingers crossed that this project would be built based on condominium facilities and quality because the price paid is relatively not cheap considering its high density and leasehold title.

1. Total density: 2155 units >>> even high density also our own house rather than rent
2. Leasehold title: remaining yrs might be 80++ >>>> leasehold so what, when the freehold isn’t affordable, leasehold is also an alternative, some leasehold condos in bayan baru and bayan lepas priced around 500-700k.
3. Price per sqft based on RM400k/900 = RM444.44 (which is not cheap) >>> if u wanna cheap, u can go to Ramah Pavilion. How to compare a prime area with other areas?

@Go4mainland
Thanks Go4mainland =P
Okay I accept your points. How about total level 49 storeys, I’m worried of earthquake (who knows might happen in n years later)

How to purchase the shop offices?

Good news guys.. State going to open 30% to public but have to pay extra 60k levy and 5 years can’t sell. Is still the best investment in penang de go to their sales office now and book fast. Not many units left. Don’t wait till no more opportunity. I santorini is the best affordable priority location in penang. Now can buy less than 500k with 2 car park

Parker :
@Go4mainland
Thanks Go4mainland =P
Okay I accept your points. How about total level 49 storeys, I’m worried of earthquake (who knows might happen in n years later) dont worried earthquake, if fire, all become bbq

If you take away the colour blue, how do it looks ? It comes back to LMCs concept
and windows like pigeon cages.

pay extra 60k? worth? y buy same thing need pay more? dont be water fish:-D

== :
pay extra 60k? worth? y buy same thing need pay more? dont be water fish:-D

I think the extra 60K is for another carpark and able to choose better unit?

@Jaguar
Jaguar I just called to Ideal they said don’t have such thing, do u have any article to support ur statement ? Thanks.

Extra 60k is levy to State Govt if buyer is ineligible. Aspen Tripinacle proj is now promoting this.

Open to public and buyer have to pay extra 60k to State Govt.

It has a relationship to “吴来春”? (worry)

@Home
Who is that? I don’t understand.

@Parker
He is built the condo has problem.

Goh chun lai dangerous ppl, he got many money, famous give ppl many money then diao ppl’s wife.

@Home
@@ That sounds scary! Which condo he built got problem ya?

@Parker
duno..just listen from some people..
is many peoples!!!

Hi anyone tell me ur concern? Why suddenly Goh Chun Lai got involved ? This is a 49 storeys building we cannot have any problem de else it’s worrying the residents !

Do u know Goh Chun Lai’s company name?

the maincon should be KP who built the straight quay n the E&O condo,bungalow houses around that area, never heard Goh involved

@martin
Martin, KP stands for what ya?
I did go to One Foresta and Solaris site to visit and saw the signboard they put up.
Main contractor’s company name is “Premium Flames”. I tried to google on the internet but couldn’t find much info relating this maincon.

@Meow Den go for CCM company search. Sure have d.

martin :
the maincon should be KP who built the straight quay n the E&O condo,bungalow houses around that area, never heard Goh involved

GCL involved in E&O condo also?

i think Goh Chun Lai is no have any company.
and now i trying to check and ask this condo izzit got involved with him.
cause i has been approved that 300k!

@Meow
KP = Kerjaya Prospek , maincon & developer just google it
they were maincon for melody homes n all season as well
they have plenty of projects on going at KL,MLK,JHR

@ad

never heard of it

@Meow

it’s common to see diff maincon co name for diff project , but under same boss
however im not sure who is the maincon “Premium Flames” for One Foresta and Solaris, u should seek for insider advice

cheers

Regarding the 300k n 350k units, the floor tiles are brown colour. So ugly, when i try to asked weather can change the colour or maybe i top up a bit, they said cant. WTF brown tiles with santorini concept? They said if u wan white colour u choose 400k loh. Who doesnt know your mum is female, 400k not easy to get approve for loan. What a ridiculios, think careful

change whole unit tiles urself only around 10k for 900sf, y pay more 100k for tiles, dont cheat by developer:-D

anyone understand what is the difference btw 400k and 350k?
They said the size is the same, 400k is 850sqft including the yard. I went to show unit just now but can’t tell the diff, does anyone know if 400k 850 sqft included yard? Or yard is extra sqft?

what i know the 400k show units is bigger than 350k (2cp). the yard is for u to put washing machine only. Ideal really a shit, purposely do 2 different showroom 300k n 400k reno. Bait people to buy the 400k unit. Hey IDEAL u think most of the penang ppl salary more than 5k a month? Aspen Group n Ideal these 2 really shit

I went to see the signboard, I’ll write the details and see if these companies rang a bell to u all. Pls feedback if their previous project were good.
Developer: uda holding berhad
Architect: aHS architects Sdn. Bhd.
Civil & construction engineer: WHN consulting Sdn. Bhd.
Mechanical & Electrical engineer: Pen consult Sdn. Bhd.
Land surveyor: jurukur jitu runding
Project manager: I platinum Sdn. Bhd.
Earth work contractor: caturAn elemen Sdn. Bhd.

@haha
if u cant get ur own renovation contactor?

@martin
Thanks Martin, maybe I’m too worried. Everything should be fine