affordable?? how afford on the price??

heard below 300k only… I think is worth following Aspen Group projects launching. the only Penang developer that excite the market with visionary projects at its inception stage… vote of confidence to AG!

below 300k in tanjung tokong? true or not?

true la… call them 04 227500

oppss… is 042275000

Penang lang :
heard below 300k only… I think is worth following Aspen Group projects launching. the only Penang developer that excite the market with visionary projects at its inception stage… vote of confidence to AG!

Ya called them, and its below 300k !

Size? anyone have the URL on layout?

I tried to register for the TRIpinnacle but failed. There ia no ‘submit’ button. Can anyone advice?

When the projects will start?
Let me know more details.
Thanks.

got any detail about it??

wa…below RM300k, how to register? Tq!!

This is under affordable housing scheme. Not everyone can buy.

Ya, not everyone but ‘almost’ everyone 😉

if really price below 300k, can use Air Asia slogan “everyone can buy”
this is the exact price I am looking at few years ago! finally someone build something with this price.

@look4home
‘almost’ everyone can apply but not everyone will get.

how i want to apply ..am interested about this project

Guys, no need to apply. This is a private project selling at affordable price. Forget about The Peak, forget about Latitude.

Moon, may i know the office number?? Thank you.

opps, ady provided above. Sry ya!

Shld b still remain the same need to fulfill Pg government affordable home requirement.

BTW, this project is somewhere near The Latitude if not next to. Which means it will overseeing chinese cemetery.

No free lunch man.

Any idea on the built-up area and total units?

Thanks.

must be household income < RM 8k and few other conditions. it's behind the PEAK

what conditions?

800sf with 1 car park @Lim

SYARAT PERMOHONAN RUMAH MAMPU MILIK
1) Warganegara Malaysia
2) Anak kelahiran Pulau Pinang, bekerja di Pulau Pinang dan Pengundi Berdaftar di Pulau Pinang atau bermastautin sekurang-kurangnya 5 tahun dari tarikh permohonan dan Pengundi Berdaftar di Pulau Pinang
3) Berumur 21 tahun ke atas pada tarikh permohonan
4) Pendapatan Tidak Melebihi RM 6,000.00 Untuk Rumah Mampu Milik RM200,000.00 (Suami dan Isteri)
5) Pendapatan Tidak Melebihi RM 8,000.00 Untuk Rumah Mampu Milik RM300,000.00 (Suami dan Isteri)
6) Pendapatan Tidak Melebihi RM 10,000.00 Untuk Rumah Mampu Milik RM400,000.00 (Suami dan Isteri)

@tomyam

Not everyone can buy la still need to go through state …

@Moon

u still need to apply from state la .. get the correct info from Developer k….

hi all, is there any way to apply from internet or we must personally go to Komtar apply?

Hi all ! If already own a house, still can buy this affordable house project ???

AK :
Hi all ! If already own a house, still can buy this affordable house project ???

If you own already, other people haven’t own a house, are you going to fight with the person without a house? Karma bro.

Mine!!…..It’s mine…..my precious…….

With The Peak Residence + Latitude, there’s already about 1000 units. Plus this, there will be eventually ~2000 units in that area around the cmetery. It reminds me of Rifle Range…:)

800ft, RM300k, 2 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms, 2X2′ tiles, glass panel balcony, sea view, close to Gurney plaza and Straits Quay, looking good!!!

Olive :
800ft, RM300k, 2 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms, 2X2′ tiles, glass panel balcony, sea view, close to Gurney plaza and Straits Quay, looking good!!!

Close to cemetery also. Can book a place nearby. Next time nearer to your family place. LOL

@Concern buyer

Need me to reserve a special feng shui lot for you or not? When do you need it?

@Olive
How much per sqft?

Don’t think got any facilities build in. But fail on syarat 2…..those already own a house. No chance/sure reject. I think they miss out this…

im interested!!!!!luckily im still 1st home buyer…any chance to get a unit there???

@Olive

I WANT!!!!!

wow..stated at jalan persiaran halia 3, there will be have a big jam after all those unit done. The already got the peak, latitude and taman bukit erskine now another one. duno have to wait how long at the traffic light there

Under state gov approved registered buyer only. Another point to note: cannot sell in 10 years. want to sell have to apply and can sell to state gov approved pool of buyer.

pg lang so rich, wer gt so much first time buyer? In then end, father use son name to buy then rent out, after 10 years sell 800k ==

@haiz

The son must be first time buyer to qualify also mah. If he’s a first home buyer, then by right he’s suppose to get one. Nothing wrong with that.

tuapui :
@haiz
The son must be first time buyer to qualify also mah. If he’s a first home buyer, then by right he’s suppose to get one. Nothing wrong with that.

Can I register my dog name to buy one? My puppy dog is also first time buyer.

tuapui :
@haiz
The son must be first time buyer to qualify also mah. If he’s a first home buyer, then by right he’s suppose to get one. Nothing wrong with that.

buy, rent out and sell. nothing wrong?

morning :
buy, rent out and sell. nothing wrong?

Nothing wrong. That’s how Penang house price go up beyond affordability of normal Penang people. Now my dog also want to buy.

nothing wrong if it’s free market. but this one suppose to be affordable housing scheme.

Only 800sqft available?

@Olive
I want a unit, can u help me to reserve it? How to contact u?

I have yet to verify if this project belongs to state “mampu milik” scheme. But assuming it is, then one of the terms is that you cannot rent it out or sell it within 10 years of ownership. The state can force you to surrender back your house if found guilty.

@Concern buyer

If the dog is your son, then can lor….:)

anybody can answer me?

@NICOLE CHAN AI WAH

There will be 1050sf (RM400k) and 1350sf (RM500k).

hi, may i know there is still got any available unit? i am interested and also 1st home buyer @tuapui

@tuapui

So far state gov do nothing on the existing low /medium cost unit.
we all know along perak road those medium cost apartment lots rent out.. does not seems to be a problem.
but one thing is if low cost unit very hard to sell off as control by gov..
i really think a lots parents will help their kids to get a unit here. if their kids just graduate and no $$ for downpayment.

this is a good start, coming soon might have other developer introduce this price range unit if they can selling good. just earn less.. but still earnining.. or make all condo 40, 50 level high ..

As the info I got, there is only 800sqft. Are you sure if there is other type 1350-1500 sqft which cost RM500,000?

mai siao la…only 800sqft la…really pang tua pui this guy…

@Leeden
HAHAHA

How to register guys?

how about carpark..plus all dunno will cost how much…

tower123 :
how about carpark..plus all dunno will cost how much…

Car Park should be RM30K-RM50K add in lo~ need prepare cash ya~ 😀

I think people who interested rather than asking question here and did not get a good answer, how about just add Aspen facebook, i saw there is some Aspen staff is answering people question there, else will miss the boat again.

any unit left?

How to buy….

Im really interested . Anyone can help to explain how to apply or booking? thanks!

@ Eva,

Pls call AG directly at 04-2275000

Already registered. Developer contacted me already guys. U guys talk2 with nothing. Lol

Im really interested. anyone know how to apply?

i just got a letter from the gov, stating i have already been chosen for this project.

you guys need to register > https://erumah.penang.gov.my/
and just wait.

btw, there are more and more ‘affordable home’ project by the state

I also just receive the letter.. Thanks God..:-)

how is the floor plan? how many room?

@lee

Hi Kelvin here. Me and my brother have receive that same offer but this one is from their government web page stating that we are DALAM PROSES TAWARAN (BERJAYA) but on letter.

Is this for real.

@Kelvin Loo

hi kelvin,

i would say wait for the official letter from the government,

i’ve receive both letters from the governement + aspen group as well.

@lee

thanks for the reply lee. To day i did went to the Kontar office have a ask with my brother.
Same as you told me. The malay lady told me that for now just wait for the the letter.

thank you

@kelvinloo hi i would like to ask how can you receives the letter so fasT? you went to perumahaan apply or dap ?

Anyone confirm buying already?
View and price wise OK?
50k for additional 1 car park

still thinking of choosing which package… 50k for additional car park is too expensive… and the renovation package+ side by side car park add up total become RM410k… @@

if the renovation is of high quality then i dun mind paying extra since if we renovate after 3 years the cost will be higher due to GST… However, as of now there is no show room or any sort of rendering that show us a clearer picture as to how the original unit differs from the upgraded unit… Therefore, it’s hard to make a decision based on the available information we have from the developer….

same same!! Anyone of you confirm buy already?
50K!!! just for one car park. Other developers sell so cheap only. terrible!
someone sign s&p d?

hi I think if 50K add a car park is not a reasonable price, the developer trying to make bigger profit for this project. Another affordable project sp chelia at the prime location, additional car park 27K++. 50 k almost double the other project, maybe need to voice out to the erumah.

And the renovation package is unnecessary, if you all remember the LMC centrio avenue news last year, the developer ask the buyers take the renovation package and the total price increase to 160k++, many of buyers rejected and angry, finally government instructed developer canceled the renovation package because the initial price for LMC is 75k the finally if final price is almost 160K, it is not more low medium cost. The news published is local media and quite hot last time.

@@@
may we know when you registered with the state government perumahan ?? how long your waiting period before u received the offer letter

Don’t give silly comparison SP cheliah is leasehold and worst is private lease by PDC. Your name can’t even be registered in the strata title and very few bank willing to finance private lease properties due to administrations and legal complications. Tri pinnacle is freehold and grade A land Im an eligible purchaser and I was told when I visited their office the car park is from 30 to 50k and renovation package include car park is estimated at 100k. The package were also briefed in very details and with clear comparison with standard option by the sales staffs. My personal view the upgrading package is damn worth and value for money. (Based on the spec) practically they’re trying to achieve zero renovation when completion to avoid damage to common property. Furthermore their facilities is comprehensive full facilities. Sp cheliah is not, sometime we has buyer must be vigilant and not always compare blindly and paying cheap normally you’ll get crap. So after going through and considering aspen vision ventures packages I think they’re doing a good job taking into buyers interest and quality assurance. They’re defect liability is 4 years, which developer in penang does that? Please let genuine buyers benefit from fresh and good ideas and vision by aspen

Block B 16/Block C 11 units per floor will it be high dense?

@buyer i registered with erumah in early 2014 and send the tri pinnacle application letter to komtar around june 2104… Got the offer letter from aspen and gov ard 3 weeks ago…

Im nt sure whether 30k for tandem parking and 50k for side by side parking is the ‘market’ price now… Personally i think 50k for an additional parking lot is too expensive for me… I would rather choose the 30k tandem parking…

As for the renovation package, i would prefer if we have some visual rendering or a show room to see exactly what we are getting and if we are satisfied with the package offered as 100k is alot to me and i have to think twice before putting my money in it… Also, the there is nt much renovation package that we can choose from as the sales personnel just said that there will only be 3 or 4 colour theme to choose, and the basic design will be the same… So, imagine when u r walking into neighbours hse in the future, the design or the colour theme will be the same, it’s lk walking into ur own hse… Lol… Personally i would prefer to have the flexibility in choosing the personalized design that i want…

So as of now, i will choose the basic package wic is 299k + 30k tandem parking… Just my 2 cents… No offense to anyone…

@brian
You soUnd like a staff of aspen. Normal PPL won’t talk like that. As everybody know, aspen ia actually the previous version of ivory. Most of their projects are like shit! Lousy workmanship, hold cuatomer booking fee for 3-5 year.g, time square isn’t a big failure? The peak tried to copy marina bay SG facede. How was it eventually? Another failure. Haiz… honest speaking, that area of tri pinnacle is tpo quiet and too inside, it needs a lot of infrastructures to boost. But it takes time. Maybe 10 years?

Last sat after visited AG for briefing and also personally visited the construction area. Here are my opinion (hopefully i listened and understood correctly what the staff said)

= 3 Blocks, Block A of LMC while Block B (16 units per floor) & C for Affordable (11 units per floor).
* for affordable, you will either get Block B or C. (both with 3 lifts and 2 blocks are link together)
** car park & lift area with access card, meaning Block A can’t enter. (borrow them or bring them in mah can liao lor, so many talent outside just duplicate the access card)
= Facilities on 13th floor, 1st floor of residence is on 14th floor. 13th floor below are car park (what the!)
= Top up package: Package A – additional car park 50k, Package B – renovation 50k (not include kitchen, what the!), Package C – furnished (Furniture IKEA, Electrical Samsung & Panasonic).
* u must take package A follow by B then C by sequence. (meaning if u wan B, then u need take A)
** if u take A & B, your units confirmed will be any unit at high floor (mayb last 5 floor) and given 5 chances. (so politically, all about $!)
= Free SnP only if take package A + B.

1) Expensive package A, B & C
– additional car park, 50k per for additional car park is ridiculious.
they knew it, nowadays just husband n wife 2 cars ady. Most of us sure need the additional car park. They are terribly make profit from that.
– 50k renovation but exclude kitchen, kitchen is heart of renovation (must renovate area) for every family.
– package C is too much, we rather buy ourself. If everyone can afford 450k, then this project cant be named as affordable housing plan. Ridiculous!

2) Crowded
– Block B with 16 units per floor really crowded; moreover, Block B & C are link together will create crowded environment

3) Total 12 floor for car park? even higher than shopping mall car park, siao liao!
– i rather hope get my parking lot at 1st floor, then take lift. I think i reach home while other still ‘climb’ & ‘hurt’ up to their higher floor parking lot.
– or shall developer build car lift?!?
– developer smart enuf, no need to purchase bigger land, all car park at multi level instead of lower ground surrounding compound.

4) Again, politically if you take package A+B, u will be given 5 chances to get the unit u most satisfy.

5) Build similar to Condo facilities? or create future/long term profit with more facilities?
– more facilities = maintenance fee higher. How many of us can fully utilize the facilities?
– maintenance fee 160 + sinking fund 16 = RM 176 (u must consider RM176 for monthly expense)

6) not suitable for old folks especially those cant drive because location too deep inside.

arr….i get this offer but so scare with so many uncetainty.

Note: if i do misunderstand or misinterpret wrongly, pls correct me.

@@@
need additional 10k for parking lot side by side if take Package A – addtional car park?

The Tri-Pinnacle actually is the one of best affordable projects in penang island currently because of the location and low density and also without LMC beside if I am not wrong. For who can secured a unit here actually quite lucky because 330-350 k still very affordable in this area. The only one thing we should know the project is under affordable categories I just no understand why buyer need to pay extra 20K for side by side car park. Affordable the houses are build for the people who really need it and not max their profit.

For location actually the project is not really at tanjung tokong prime location and actually at mount Erskine, it is no wrong if buyers can pay more 50k even 60k a car park. But some time we need to know how to protect our right as a consumers because affordable houses are protected by government if the developer charges unreasonably.

@Ken

Whatever project you buy also got uncertainties, unless it’s a completed project.

@ck2
You are wrong, LMC is just beside.

@Ken

I will buy basic version, then spend 30k for revo and furnish.

OMG!! are you serious? package A only can buy package B then only can buy package C. If dont buy any package only can draw ONCE? If buy package then can draw FIVE times? what are all these?
and buy package A+B only have free S&P?? If dont buy package then need to bear on our own?? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

@Ken

Met up with them last week and I have been emailing them. My sales rep informed me that for affordable houses, the car park is 6 floors and 1 facilities floor. Can you reconfirm your intel?

But yeah…the whole project is kinda ambiguous. No showroom and even the upgrade plan no handouts etc, hard to make decisions on whether want to renovate or not (which I probably won’t)

I will get the 30k tandem car park, but even that is up to first come first served basis…those with take upgrade packages will get priority

Zzzzz. Ah well, not much choices nowadays

@Ken 26 Jan
If I don’t want to choose any of the packages, can?

@Delvin

Affordable housing projects by BSG and Ideal don’t have such T&C.

@MO
but most of us need at least additional 1 car park, right?

outside there over crowded ady, The Peak, Latitud and Bukit Mount Eskine (LMC), roadside confirm no place 2 park. I have no idea if there is tender for extra car park lot, eg RM50 per month like some of apartments.

@Delvin
car park is 6 floors and 1 facilities floor. meaning the 1st residence floor will be 8th?
but i heard my sales rep mention 13th floor is swimming pool, i am stun for a while and clarify again and he said yes.

arr…..seem like i need 2nd appointment to clarify again because i can not provide wrong info here to confuse anyone.

What u mean by 30k tandem car park?

@Teoh01

can, that is RM300k lor.

@Tracy
Yes, this is what i heard exactly from my sales rep.
I am shocked too, developer still get their own interest than considerate for buyers.

but i do understand for those reno package will standardize get high floor because they wan standardize revo work easier for them rather than random at different floor/unit.

@Ken
the sales rep last week told me. It’s compulsory to get additional car park, it’s Penang government rules.

what i heard from my sales rep is
i) we must purchase (compulsory) the additional car park, either back n front (tandem) for 30k, or side by side for 50k.
ii) for upgrading package (inclusive renovation and car park), additional 110k for side by side parking and 100k for tandem car park. And also additional 50k if u wan ur unit furnished.

Therefore, the min cost will be RM330k due to the obligation of purchasing additional car park.

It’s good to see many comments popping up here as we as purchaser are still blurred by the information given by the sales rep.

http://www.nanyang.com/node/677775?tid=513

发展商解说员疑假借槟州政府之名， 要求购屋者强制购买第二停车位。

（槟城25日讯）疑假借槟州政府之名，发展商解说员要求购屋者强制购买第二停车位！
《南洋商报》最近接获一名公众投诉，指槟岛一发展商的解说员疑似捏造州政府有明文规定，购屋者在获取房屋后，必须再购买第二个停车位。
该名公众表示，自己是于去年通过槟州房屋遴选委员会申请州政府所推行的可负担房屋计划，并在上周接到通知，指自己已获得一间位于丹绒道光某公寓的可负担房屋单位。
她表示，自己随后便与该发展商预约，以前往有关公寓预览自己所获得的单位。
“当时，发展商的解说员向我表示，由于州政府有明文规定购屋者必须购买第二个停车位，所以我必须缴费3万或5万令吉来买该停车位。
“当时候我很好奇，有关单位已经附送一个停车位给我，为何还有另一个条例规定自己要买第二个停车位？”
投诉者：或考虑放弃 可负担屋“难负担”
该名公众告诉记者，州政府所发出的信函中，并没有任何一项条文中注明购屋者必须再购买第二个停车位。
她坦承，自己并没有向州政府的相关单位询及此事或投报。
她也对于发展商的做法表示无奈，并指自己或会考虑放弃州政府所给予的单位。
“我申请30万令吉的可负担房屋，然后获得一间29万令吉的单位，但并未包括装修费及其他费用。
“如果指定要买有关停车位，我就必须最少付3万令吉，若加上发展商的装修费6至7万令吉，我就必须在30年的贷款期中付超过40万令吉。
“这价格不是可负担的价格，我或许会考虑放弃这个机会。”
发展商：强制建2车位 购屋者不买恐亏损
当记者向该发展商与州政府的代表确认，州政府是否有强制规定购屋者购买第二个停车位时，却引发不同的回应。
发展商代表指，由于州政府已要求各发展商在建造可负担房屋单位时必须附建2个停车位，所以购屋者在获得单位时都会给予一个免费的停车位，而发展商在较后会询问购屋者是否有意购买第二个停车位。
“我们都知道现在一个停车位似乎无法满足一个家庭所需，所以我们还是会让购屋者选择是否要买第二个停车位，而且倘若购屋者没有购买第二个停车位时，会令发展商面对亏损，且在较后会引发更多的问题如随意在公寓外停车等。”
更关注房屋面积 州政府未强制购买
州政府代表则表示，州政府只会关注发展商所建的可负担房屋面积是否有符合规格，反之却没有规定发展商在建可负担房屋单位时需同时建2个停车位。
“州政府从未有任何明文规定购屋者必须强制购买第二个停车位，购买与否，是交予购屋者的决定。”
他促请该名公众，一旦确认此事，就向州政府投报，而州政府会立即展开调查。
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他表示，发展商在建好可负担房屋后会附送一个停车位，购屋者可以决定是否要增添。

What? Compulsory to buy additional car park? I mean, I want extra car park, but to make it compulsory？

Is that even legal?

What a ridiculous project !!!

@Ken
Tandem is the front back parking.

I think we need to call or email the sales reps. All got conflicting info

For example, I was told that 100k upgrade package includes side by side Parking and renovation

Yes…. And i wasn’t aware that if we choose renovation package there will b benefits such as 5 chances of balloting, unit wil b of higher floor (nicer unit), free snp and legal fee and etc until i saw from this platform… Guess hv to clarify wif the sales personnel again…

gather all the evidence and report to the state government & also the MACC …

Went to AG office today.
What i was told is:
– compulsary to buy a 2nd cp, which is 30k(front and rear) or 50k (side by side).
– can opt to upgrade. 100k for upgrade + front-and-rear cp, or 110k for upgrade + side-by-side cp.
Only those who opt for the upgrade package will be given 5 chances to draw, and get free snp.
– additional 50k for furnised unit, which will be given IKEA furnitures, Samsung or Panasonic electrical appliances.
– block A(LMC) has a different entrance to their own car park from blockB/C. Anyway, didnt ask if they allocate diff floors for LMC.
– only residences of block B/C can use the facilities on 13th floor.

Was too rush and unable to get more info. Besides, the sale rep was talking too fast that i can hardly follow.
So, hope someone can provide more info here. Thanks..

Can developer actually force to buy additional carpark? Hmm

Well, it seems the developers are “using” the term “affordable” to trick buyers into buying their not-so-cheap homes. That probably explains why all the developers are rushing into announcing their affordable homes right now.

When the market is tough and they can’t sell any RM700+psf homes, this is what they are trying to sell. But in fact, they are probably making the same huge profit selling these affordable homes as selling normal homes.

Affordable house need to buy affordable car park?
No meat to eat if selling affordable house only.
Developer need to make more money.

siao liao…now i even confused. Anyone has same sales rep as mine, he is Mr Koay.

Confuse 1:
he didn’t tell me additional car park is compulsory. And I have no idea the ‘either back n front (tandem) for 30k, or side by side for 50k’, what is this all about?

he told me additional car park for 50k, not compulsory. I forgot is there any charge for side by side.

Confuse 2:
He told facilities at 13th floor but got 1 comment facilities on 6th floor?

Something not right, arr……my sister told me should ask him write down in black n white. Verbally, they later in return will shoot us.

Shall we gather more info, mayb we can complaint or inform government?

@Ken

Email your sales rep and seek clarification in black and white

But I think the developer can’t force buyers to buy compulsory car park….if so it’s just cheating using the affordable house nametag and probably illegal. I think lots of people will make noise if really forced to buy car park when they don’t want it.

@ck

Nice sharing. Those who are forced but don’t want to buy the car park can definitely complain to state government

Compulsory means included into the selling price. This developer is obviously cheating the buyers by advertising it at 300k. 5 draws vs 1 draw for different package is also contradictory to the purpose of affordable housing projects… If this kind of scheme is allowed in the state affordable housing project, it will give a bad name to the state housing administration.

@Teoh01
Teoh, ignored my previous replied because now i even confuse.
I has emailed to Aspen request for email black and white reply rather than phone call.

I will update here or u all can give me your email then i fwd to u all once i get the reply from Aspen.

kns, 50k for one carpark is too over. i rather use 50k to buy LC appartment in butterworth area. the developer just want to get more money from the buyer.

After read all the information and the news on 26 Jan, I was so disappointed with the developer’s selling methods. For my opinion affordable need to be affordable, just come with the original price+additional car park with with reasonable price. Nothing else, transparent and simple. (like the sp chelia project).

The additional packages really unfair to who are not take the packages, that means who pay more and richer buyers will have more change to get high floor and good units + free SnP. It is really unfair for who are not take additional package.

Developer cannot force buyers buy additional car park although 2nd car park is a must nowadays. If you sell with reasonable price, all your parking lot should can be sold. How can a affordable project come with not affordable parking lot. Actually this is not the first time happen if you remember the news regarding centrio avenue. For who interested can go to the link http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/275558?tid=4

we as consumers should know our right. I think some of potential buyers are first time. Any unsure we can confirm with Penang government.

Nowadays we really very hard to meet a good developer, who really can build for needy and the affordable house not for developer to make money and only bring benefit to richer and pay more. What is the purpose of affordable houses? Contribute back to society and help the needy, I think a lot of developer never understand. Yes Making money is right, we all also want to make money, but not all the time. Sincere hopefully developer can understand.

Anyway, the project actually is a good project and congrat all the potential buyers.

affordable house ,majority can get a loan 90% from bank and afford the down payment.
example 1600sf condo unit cost rm800k, majority cant afford the down payment, or the bank surely hard to approve u to get loan.
so they made the unit become 2 units, and its affordable unit. range half of the 1600sf unit selling prices.
normally 1 hector have a limit unit to build, government try to increase the unit for each hector.
after that ppls ll complain too pack and traffic jam, why the government can approve it so many units in a small land.
GOT 1 GOOD NO 2 GOOD.
the car park a bit expensive, base on car park sf 14×6= should be around 35k.
about the upgrade is not necessary , 50k per upgrade loan from bank 30years end up u ll pay double for the upgrade.
now about 3-4 years , its enough time to save for renovation, when u get ur unit done.
after condo completed, will someone ” in charge” for the renovation?

1) Issue about the parking..
Maybe the back n front (tandem) for 30k is like this..
http://cambridge.jdi-consult.net/documents/pics167/j1.png

2) Why the sales rep did not tell me that got 3 packages?
why suddenly got Top up package:
Package A – additional car park 50k,
Package B – renovation 50k (not include kitchen, what the!),
Package C – furnished (Furniture IKEA, Electrical Samsung & Panasonic).

they only tell me the basic price include 2nd car park is RM300k+30K (Min) and renovation price RM300K+RM110k.

3) Does anyone know the Lawyer fee? or other addition fee owner need to pay?

4) How about the interest rate? which Bank provide the loan?

5) Since is affordable house got any rule or Term and Condition if in future owner plan to sale the house out?

Cheating!!!
There is no free snp, coz you already pay for it! Everything seems like a scam project to me~~~

This morning i just attended the briefing by the developer. i think what they are explaining and offering is rather reasonable. The unit come with 1 car park and not compulsory to buy the second car park. the additional car park is sell at RM30k for front & back and RM50k for side by side. so, it is actually based on our budget. I will buy the second car park coz now me and my wife already have 2 cars, just thinking whether to buy the 30k or the 50k. although the 50k looks expensive but it will enhance my house value in the future if we want to sell it after 5 years. my brother just bought a extra car park at farlim area, the price is already more than 50k, he is so regret that he did not buy it from the developer when he bought the property few years back. so he strongly encourage me to buy now. to be honest, where else can we get a nice condo at RM300k at Tanjung Tokong? i think we have be reasonable too. other developer is building affordable condo at ulu areas, n this is at tanjung tokong. i like their service too as they make everything very clear and open.

hope my comment help the rest.

Affordable housing scheme doesn’t seem to be affordable. Compulsory for buying the car parks at such high prices is really absurd. This scheme doesn’t help those first time buyers at all. Instead they are making these young people facing cross road.

Not everybody owning 2 cars. If those own only 1 car, why do you think they need 2 car parks.

New Updated from Aspen Group
The Addition Car parking is not compulsory…change to option.
Anyway..the price still very expensive.

https://www.facebook.com/myaspengroup/photos/a.206380536231829.1073741828.206339582902591/338282549708293/?type=1

ASPEN clarify already……check out their FB page

Aspen just make some clarifications in fb an hour ago, saying that the 2nd car park is ‘optional’ .
(guess its either i misinterpreted the info given or the sales rep failed to deliver the info clearly..but i remember her saying the words ‘compulsory’..).

Anyway, its a good news. U all my want to go check it out and double confirm, in just im hallucinating again…

Called the developer to check again and clarified the matter. Not compulsory to buy second carpark though they do give a valid point why an additional carpark will be valuable.

“Affordable” is a term that differs from one person to another. I’m making 4.5k a month so I think this is reasonably “affordable”.

Standard unit +1 tandem carpark = RM330K divide 800sf = RM412.50psf.

Reno unit +1 tandem carpark = RM400K divide 800sf = RM500psf.

Full furnish unit +1 single carpark = RM460K divide 800sf = RM575psf.

So, different people have different opinion on “affordable” but what is amazing is that they provide full furnish packaging below RM600psf. (most new private condos are more than RM650psf. and non-furnished). I may not take the furnishing package cause I’ll be shifting my furniture from my existing rented house but will surely consider the first two.

@Lau
if the car park should be 35k.
That mean developer will extra charge buyer 15k.

15k x 859 units = RM12.8mil

What a massive amount for them just for the additional car park.

@Ken
is that send my email add here to you?

Oh, last time said compulsory, now change to optional…seems like this developer is fire fighting, to save its name…haha

our penang Lang kah Ho liao nia, damn good everything also COMPLAIN! Do also complain don’t do also complain. 2nd car park is so important in any good neighborhood or condominium it will minimize illegal parking and irresponsible residence. And worst still in high density projects. I understand from the developer staff their intention is good but judging from the response here I don’t think any developer want to build any good affordable housing in good locations especially company like aspen they’re the first one to think and strategies about private affordable houses. No offence to any party but existing developers who are busy announcing the new so call affordable is mere opportunistist. Bsg? They sell LMC at 180k++++ ideal? Build in Sg ara and Relau and Bayan lepas and sell at 500k for normal apartment with super laussy quality! And still people complain about new developer who specialize in affordable projects with good ideas. Why you guys think company like bsg and ideal want to do affordable housing? And why now? And worst in Sg ara? Teluk kumbar? Balik Pulau? Pays terubong? Think la my good penang Lang. Only in prime areas like Tanjung tokong, tg bungah and Georgetown can we consider affordable due to excessive price hike in these locations. But the problem when developer build we still complain! 350k in tanjung bungah with 2 car park and full facilities sounds unreasonable? I think then you guys have to wait for prima housing in penang! Maybe prima can subsidiase you guys., 450k fully renovate and furnished with electrical items and furnitures and 2 car park with full condo facilities is crazy? Then maybe you guys should but sub sale apartments instead I’m sure penang still has many below 300k but again our penang Lang will still complain! Too old la! No proper maintance la! Looks cheap la! No facilities la! No 2nd car park la! Got Bangladesh stay there la! All the lah! A continue to complain la!

@brian

I suppose the RM350k with 2 car parks you are referring to has a size of 800sf, right?

That works out to be ~RM440psf. Based on today’s market price, I agree that’s on the low side. But we have to remember that today’s market price is due to an “extraordinary unreasonable” increase over the last few years due to speculation and hoarding. So, the “low side” relative to today’s market price might not be actually LOW in real terms.

We are one step towards the right direction in introducing “affordable” homes. However, much will remain to be seen as events unfold, before we say “job well done”.

Spore gov has done a good job introducing more than 5 cooling measures over a period of 12 months to cool house price. There has been an overall -10% correction in house price. When you say OVERALL -10%, that could mean a range of -35% to -5% for different transactions.

If our gov can do that, we can then have affordable homes priced at -20% of current rate. Why is the state not doing that? Why?

@polo
when we calculate how much they can earn, dont forgot they hv to pay for the construction cost and land cost too. i’ve visited the site, its sited on the rock mountain, so they hv to do the rock blasting too. think we are too kiasu, lol

I has received replied from my sales rep, here are conclusion. Or it would be better you may provide your email add here, i will fwd to you because email content show better.

I need to emphasize here, in my email to him, i never said he mentioned ‘compulsory’ to me. I don’t know why he want clarify like this, like I blame him pula.

I am thinking if they provide black n white at the 1st place (just type 1 time save in the pc then print whenever needed), then sure no more rumours or misunderstanding. They count for responsibility too. ‘Make it right in the 1st place’

So first thing first, the “compulsory” carpark. The word “compulsory” may
have been misinterpreted wrongly and I’m very sure when I attended to you I
did not mentioned to you that carpark is a “compulsory” purchase. It is
compulsory for us to build the extra carpark but not compulsory to buy the
extra carpark. You must have heard this over the forums or from other
eligible applicants that come in for the introductory session. The extra
carpark however is encouraged as it is a norm that a common household, a
husband and a wife would own two cars. We have foreseen this issue, hence we
will build additional carparks to sustain such demands. The requirements by
authorities is only one carpark per affordable home unit. We have at our
best effort assist buyers as there are more “pros” than “cons” for buying
this additional carpark and adding it into the agreement which can be listed
as follows when I spoke to you last time:-

(i) Adding this into agreement means you can take loan and therefore, in
this case, you only need to come out with 10% of the extra carpark cost.
RM5K at most. With this, the additional loan will only add an est. of RM200+
per month instalment
(ii) Purchasing additional carpark in the future (only when you need it)
means you will have to come out with lump sum of the full carpark price ie.
RM50K and even worse, 3 years from now the carpark price may be more
expensive or sold out
(iii) Purchasing additional carpark separately in the future will also incur
a 6% GST as the carpark in an extra item purchase and not added into the
SPA. 6% of RM50K is equivalent to RM3K extra which you could have easily
saved by having the foresight of your future requirement and adding it into
the agreement now
(iv) Purchasing your carpark separately later also means that we are no
longer able to allocate your carpark together and your complimentary carpark
is likely to be separated from your additional carpark that you purchase
later
(v) Carpark purchased separately later which is not show in the SPA cannot
be accessorised to your unit when Strata Title is obtain meaning your
Property Grant only shows one carpark
(vi) and last but not least, with only one carpark attached to your
property, property value may not appreciate as high as other units with two
carparks which can now easily be at par with condominiums

Then again, even with all the above rationale, you can still opt not to buy
the extra carpark.

Yes, there is a tandem carpark at the price of RM30K. This tandem carpark is
limited and will only be available on first come first serve basis when the
units are open for booking (payment of commitment) and balloting. By
upgrading or purchasing a tandem carpark lot, your existing single carpark
lot will be revised to a tandem lot which can now accommodate two cars,
front & back. Meaning the car in front will have to move away before the car
at the back can come out of the parking lot. However, the majority of the
extra carpark lots for sale is a single lot which will cost an extra RM50K.
The allocation of single carpark will be accompanied together with your
existing 1 carpark lot. The location of the carpark lot is not predetermined
but will be fixed prior to the completion of the property and will be
accessorised to your unit. The allocation of carpark is entirely random.
Similar to the unit whereby you cannot choose your unit, you cannot choose
your carpark either.

Right, you the structure of the building it depends on your definition and
perception. Level 1 & 2 are utilities and guard house. Level 3 – 12 (10
storeys) are carpark levels. Level 13 is the facilities (but there are a few
units here) and 14 – 44/45 (30 or 31 storeys) are the residential towers.
Parking for LMC is at a different level from Affordable Home. So, LMC
residents won’t be able to drive to Affordable Home residents’ carpark area.
Affordable Home units will have an advantage of being able to access a
circular ramp which will allow owners to go up two floor per round on the
ramp speeding access to their carparks.

Just like any other government allocated properties, SPA and Loan Agreement
fees are not covered. You will have to make these payments yourself. The
estimated costs on SPA fees are approx. RM3K – RM3.5K. For Loan Agreement
fees it is approx. 1.5% of your loan amount. However, for considering our
additional renovation upgrade ie. the upgrade that covers that extra carpark
and the floor tiles etc., we will absorb the cost of the SPA. Yes, the stamp
duty will borne by the buyer as well but you may get some discounts from the
government if this is your first property. Please mention this to the lawyer
before the stamp duty is charged. MRTA is bank loan insurance and is for
bank to advise depending on many factors such as your age and or health
conditions.

Due to eligible customers who have share such benefits on the internet, the
government/authorities have warned us not to allow additional balloting
anymore. Now, those taking up the carpark & reno package cannot ballot extra
times anymore. However, those taking up carpark & reno package will ballot
from a separate area which will be the predetermined renovated areas. Such
predetermined renovated areas will allow us to efficiently coordinate the
renovation works rather than random renovation throughout the entire
development.

The second upgrading ie. the renovation package does not include the
kitchen. This reno package includes items that require “wet works” ie.
hacking, cementing, plastering, wiring etc. Kitchen can be fabricated
outside the house and installed/assembled in the unit. Hence, not considered
a wet work.

The full measurement layout will be provided at a later stage ie. before you
make commitment of the 10%.

“However, those taking up carpark & reno package will ballot from a separate area which will be the predetermined renovated areas.”

No need to hide here hide there, just let those package buyers choose their units lah.

@ken Kindly forward the email to the following email address. kenzi5393@gmail.com. Thx

@ken

Very good explanation and clarification by Aspen. They are doing their best to be a good corporate citizen.

Hi, firstly the projects actually is cheap even plus 50k for 2nd car park, but this is not about price, it is about integrity and honest. It is the Aspen sales representatives themselves said the 2nd car park is compulsory first, after cause a lot of discussion here and some buyer had complaint to local media ( see #101), I was sure because one of my friend also been told the car park is compulsory at the beginning and she pretty worry about the extra cost have to pay.

After the topic lead a lot of discussion, published in local media then aspen felt panic and announced in the new notices the 2nd car park is optional but they now said not to trust rumors in social medial, forum etc of cause included here Penang Property Talk. We all know who actually said the 2nd car park is compulsory. We as consumers better ask developer provides black and white next time and even can record the conversation using phone. As I mentioned before actually developer cannot force buyers to take 2nd car park. If no one complain and rise the topics here, you think the developer will change to optional and clarified again? If this is not the developers themselves said, why a lot of buyers mentioned here?

Currently Penang Government haven’t come out a guide line regarding about the 2nd car park price. Now Government just concern the size of the affordable unit and compulsory for the developer provide one car park for affordable house. We talk so much here because nowadays a lot of developer try to max their profit, therefore government need to learn from experiences and come out with guide lines for the LMC and affordable house like min 800 sq, one car park etc. If today 50k for 2nd car park (although the total price still cheap), if there is no guide line then other developer simply increase the 2nd car park to 60k, 70k, endless. Then I just want to ask what is the meaning of “affordable”?

Actually every buyers have their own budget, like if we choose LMC then we know our budget and as well as affordable house, we all know the location even sell 400-450k with two car park still cheaper then other. But one things we must know the reasons for all the affordable projects will be built for? The purposes for affordable houses are developer to make money or really want to help needy? If the final prices over buyers’ budgets so much then it is not reasonable. The 2nd car park for the affodable sp chelia is just 27500 ( don’t the type yet) if they not changing because buyers sp chelia haven’t get offer letter. why sp chelia can offer 27k in the more prime area at the heart of town but why Aspen can’t?

I have deep feeling because actually a lot of local penang citizens still staying in a quite bad conditional low cost house, and very long queues still waiting for LC, LMC allocation. So you all can consider very lucky because can get a good affordable houses within a short time compare with may many more still waiting for LMC.

Some may agree and some may not agree my comments, but what I wanna said I am not a potential buyers for this projects and totally won’t get any benefits for this projects and spent so much time comments here just hope can contribute some ideas even little big and be a more smart buyers and know what is our right as a consumers and I know a lot of here is first time buyers.

I know Aspen representative here, actually we know Aspen already try the best to help local to get a own houses with affordable price and we do sincere thank to you. Just need to unified all the information like the reno package, the 2nd car park etc. and finally wish to say

Integrity and honest are more important they anythings.

and sorry my poor english.

@@@
i has fwd to u.
if u still have any doubt, can direct email to tripinnacle@aspen.com.my or admin@aspen.com.my.

Anyway, i hope u don simply fwd the email, keep for your own reference.

JY, I thought this affordable house cannot be sold within 10 years.

@Yee
If not mistaken LMC cannot be sold within 10 years while affordable house cannot be sold within 5 years.

Let me explain how to calculate, let take affordable house cannot be sold in 5 years. The calculation include the 3 years construction and normally mentioned as 36 months (AG smart enough to mention 36 months + 6 months). Meaning you only live 2 years then can be sold.

Concept same goes to Leasehold 99 years, I forgot whether it start count when landlord contract with developer or same as freehold start from construction years.

Sometimes I feel funny about put more value for our property. Don’t we think to own our 1st house and live happily ever after. Why most of us think of make our property at high value, so that can be sold better price in future?
Unless our house facing feng shui or any issue, I don’t think all of us like to move around whenever our house value goes up especially those already have child family.
To me, for instance, buy additional car park not merely for value added to property; most important is for ourself living in a comfortable environment.

I feel ridiculous because all sales rep (not only Aspen Group) told me the same thing.

just curious, “….renovation package including floor tiles….”.

If no take the reno package means your unit floor is plain cement only ?

I cannot understand why kitchen is not part of the renovation package. Kitchen is the most fundamental reno for any new house. Other wet work is not necessary.

@ck

English poor nevermind, a good heart with honesty and integrity is more important.

@ken

Don’t feel funny about people trying to flip properties. Because some people have many properties, when they flip, they don’t have to move here move there.

@jamie

Other wet work not necessary ah? Wait until you buy a house that comes only with cement floor.

@bohsia

Ooh.. this so called affordable home comes with cement floor? That is LC standard la… 300k not that cheap ok?

Since Condo are expensive and difficult to sell, many smart developers already shift their attention to build units for LMC, MC and affordable apartments. Here, they make more/handsome profits because they are allowed to build more units and high rise on that piece of land by the state gov. Usually more than 1000 units. Now, they are charging 50k for one additional car park in the affordable project. That sound ridiculous.

@bohsia
Other non-government property, i no comment.
But Tri Pinnacle is meant for those 1st time buyer, they not suppose to pyscho buyer mindset to upgrade so that can sell the property in good value (just have to wait 5 years+ include construction period). This is against government intention. Of cos, the buyer themself also not right to take for granted from erumah allocation to make profit.

@Cheng
You got good point here. I can describe it just like selling food at canteen especially school canteen, your sales is firmed, no doubt.

Aspen made a clever move by build this kind hand-shake governemt project (untung terjamin). Regardless buyer like it or not, there are plenty of buyers in the waiting list. Anyway, really hope Aspen can correct their sincere service and value to serve the people.

In fact, there are many property out there not as ‘hot’ as we thought especially those ‘not so popular area’ (eg, farlim).

@KL

I don’t know whether the default flooring is cement or not. Just saying.

Aspen should build a mock up unit for purchasers to get a feel of what they are going to get without reno package and with reno package. Then purchasers could make a better informed decision.

@Cheng

What you say is true. Developers could be making obscene profits on the pretext of selling “affordable” housing.

By tagging their project as “affordable”, they can (1) get a much higher plot ratio, in other words, build more units for unit area of land (2) get away with building low cost homes.

@ken

What’s wrong with farlim?

ken, are you sure they calculate that way. 5 years should mean from the date the OC is given.

@Yee
Yes, my understanding calculate like this; the sale rep told me same thing too. However

Anyone correct me if i am wrong.

@Lam
As I know area like Farlim not a ‘hot property’ area, there are plenty of unit is no occupy or wait for sale such as All Seasons. Compare to Golder Triangle, it will be much ‘hotter’ due to near to FIZ. Otherwise, those ‘big investor’ rather spend few million purchase nearby Gurney (with seaview, nice view) then easily can sold out to Foreigner (German, Korean, Japanese etc).

Back to Tri Pinnacle, it suppose consider Mount Eskine, I not sure why the address end with ‘Tanjung Tokong’. (maybe I am not good in geographical). Normally when we heard Mount Eskine, we will think of cemetry but Tanjung Tokong or Bunga will be more ‘high class’.
I think Aspen missed out ‘Tanjung Tokong’ (more high class – more value) this as selling point.

my friend told me got some big issues for Tri pinnacle, after i read all the comments, i think many ppl here are just ‘tumpang meriah’ to comment, and dont really understand what is happening and what is the fact. me and my friend have attended the briefing last week and no one told us is compulsory to get second car park. i think it could be a wrong message told by one of the staff and other ppl just take this opportunity to hantam the developer. me and my friend met different staff and both of us feel that what they told us were clear and reasonable. if anyone of you attended the briefing, im sure you will see how many ppl are queueing and the staff is actually working/talking non stop everyday to buyers, like us. the staff attended me try her very best to answer all my questions and explain everything in detail to me. ive also visited other developer sales gallery and sometimes, the staff that are selling expensive property will not give that kind of service to you too. for those who are just ‘tau lau juak’ and did not attend their office, i think its time for you to focus on other thing and dont simply say anything to make ppl confuse, thank you.

Compulsory here means compulsory to build, not compulsory to buy lah… you all wrongly interpret the meaning already…

wow…so many agent from Aspen here ^^

@ken
Can you email me…
chiijong@hotmail.com thanks

@@CJ
Email sent.
Hope u don’t simply fwd, just keep for your own reference.
If still have any doubts not explain in my email, u can direct email them for details.

Hi all,I’m one of the eligible buyer that attended the appointment.the sales rep did showed me standard specification of basic unit and also the upgrading package.

original floor finishers
living room & bedroom-ceramic floor tiles
yard &balcony -cement render

upgrading package
living room -600mm×600mm porcelain tiles
bedroom-laminated floor
yard &balcony-ceramic tiles
*i tought condo shd originally furnished with 600×600mm porcelain floor tiles?pls correct me if I’m wrong as I’m firat time buyer☺
There is very basic renovation included in the upgrading package.i believe most of us need to do additional renovation even we puchase the unit with upgraded package.

My biggest concern is the car park cost us 30-50k. We can choose to buy basic unit without upgrading package but most of us need to buy an additional car park.The price is unreasonable for this affordable and High density housing scheme.Shall we convey our message to state government to protect our rights ?

upgrading package
living room -600mm×600mm porcelain tiles
bedroom-laminated floor
yard &balcony-ceramic tiles

Looking at the ‘upgrading package’, I feel not worth to spend 50k for it…..better spend the 30-50k for the 2nd carpark as it is more necessary (IF u have 2 cars).

U still can live with smaller ceramic floor tiles, but u got 2 cars n only 1 carpark it will cause u trouble in long term.

@joe
The upgrading package that i mention here is just part of it…it include paster ceiling,electrical pont,door and etc…but i feel that’s not worth ~60k…

Its not finalize, but basically will involve in the following:

1. Living, Dining & Kitchen floor tiles 2×2

2. Balcony & Yard 1X1

3. Bedrooms Laminated Timber Flooring

4. Bathroom wall tiles to ceiling height

5. Bathroom sanitary fittings

6. Bathroom extra rain shower, table top, shower screen

7. Door upgrades to timber door

8. Door lockset upgrade to handle

9. Main door upgrade to 8 feet high

10. Entrance Grille door and lockset

11. Yard Grille

12. Plaster ceiling at Living, Dining, Kitchen and Bathrooms

13. A/C copper piping, electrical wiring, drainage pipe concealed at Living and all Bedrooms

14. Additional power points all areas

15. Additional 15Amp power point at Kitchen

16. Additional lighting points all areas

17. Additional TV points at Master Bedroom

18. Additional bellpoint and doorbell

19. Additional fanpoints and fanhook

Why don’t you all highlight directly to state government instead of keep discussion.
I already wrote the email to Jagdeep Singh regarding the car park cost concern. Not sure how much it would help but at least better than doing nothing.

To Need and other buyers,

Polo did the right way, I have been visited some of new launched Apartments/condo including my friends new units. Normally we nothings to do with the tiles because in the recent years bigger tiles at least 12*12 inch is the basic and some developers ald come with bigger 600 mm* 600 mm porcelain tiles with original unit. Thanks for dicksondck provided the renovation list some is necessary and some is unnecessary depending what you want. And again the so call upgrade list actually some developers will also give you under basic unit depend on how sincerity of the developers. Normally developer will give difference kinds of offer to attract potential buyers like free snp/down payment discount/free upgrade etc because of high competitions among developers.

Unlike other non-affordable projects, the so call affordable houses already have more then few thousands awaiting list at the erumah Penang Governments so developers who build affordable projects already save a huge amounts in marketing(boots in shopping mall)/ offer free snp lawyers fees etc even before the units start to sell. The they sell second car park with more expensive 50 k each/ so call upgrade packages and higher and higher density. Can you imagine that, so this is why many people claims that developers may be make more money with the affordable houses compare with non-affordable houses. Therefore is the future trends of the Penang Island property, besides than the sp chelia/teluk kumpar and Aspen. Ideal i-condo in Penang many areas/ BSG will build superb high dense affordable house tanjung bunga and many more will come.

Actually affordable houses is still very good depending how developer’s sincerity and honest. Like Sp-chelia, min unit 200k + 27.5k additional car park, so total less than 230 k you got a affordable unit come with 2 car park at the heart of the George Town Prime location. Nothings renovation packages/ affordable houses come with affordable price 2nd car park, that all, simple and clean.

Buying a property is not a simple task as we need to fully utilise our mental and doing study regarding ever things, get the correct information such as developer’s back ground/ location and especially loan/ MRTA/ MLTA/ later on when houses complete then need to renovation and furnish and this is another huge task again. Because upon commit this is huge debts to banks and the debts will follow to our rest of life. If you remember the news last two week the main reason of to who bankrupt is due to car loan the follow by housing loan. So what wrong we need to do a lot of study before buying a property and protect our right when we meet unreasonable developer.

This will create bad example to other developer and they may follow if Government not control the second car park prices. Now they sell 50k for second car park if no one complain and we can said 350k – 400k total price still cheap for some people. But if we stand to other people side to think, actually the price is no everybody can afford because have been already out of budget too much.

If every buyers work together and voice out to the state government regarding the car park issue so the influences will become more bigger and government will look into because this is not only do for your own but to all the future affordable houses buyers. If not you think other developer will take the loopholes simply increase the prices or add the renovations?

@Polo
wah direct to Jagdeep Singh, not suppose state by state? I mean at least inform the Jabatan Perumahan about several buyer’s concern first. I am just afraid u will make thing worse or mayb just being ignored.

Furthermore, you need gather as much people concern as possible before do that.

I think before all of this, shall discuss with AG whether can have 1 or 2 open sessions to gather all buyers 1 shot make everything, everyone clear and agree (based on majority). Some feel unreasonable but somes might feel reasonable.

I only feel ridiculous about this project…

wah lan eh…you guys are really jokers! Open session for discussion? Agree based on majority? You think what? AG owe you money ah? Or AG is your grandfather ah? Tsk tsk tsk *sigh*

@cocacola
Watch out your words!

Maybe you misunderstand my intention. My open discussion here doesn’t mean ‘cari pasal’ or make something ridiculous (eg, not so ridiculous to request additional car park for just 10k, ok?).

Open discussion actually good for both party.
1) I mean to have everyone there and explain again. I don’t think so many ppl still can be listen wrongly.
2) AG in charge person this time confirm will align with their best explanation and briefing. I am sure even best of the best briefing they ever had because they will well-prepared.
3) They will answer any doubts face2face. (Sometimes wording in email might misinterpreted)
‘wah lan eh’ consider personal assault to me. Mayb to you just normal wording.
4) This time buyers can write down everything correctly.
5) Developers shared their concern and difficulty; who knows, buyers maybe can accept 50k per additional car park in the end after analyze.
6) I think it will save their time and buyer time instead of attend so many phone call or keep reply email.

Again, instead of saying open discussion, then i would say 1 more briefing session for all of the buyers. I believe this action will gain everyone respect. Actually also save the staff’s time and their frustration.

Cocacola, if you able to calm down and read every single words. Then u will know my intention is good for both party. I did not side for anyone. To emphasize, I am not AG staff either.

Lastly, if there is AG staff read this message, really hope you can discuss with your management my suggestion. Of cos, AG has own right/reason not to have any briefing anymore too.

Maybe AG initial intention to arrange 1 to 1 appointment is to minimize interaction among all buyers to prevent more and more objections and complaints from us

Btw,anyone can provide the email or contact of person in charge that can help us in this issue?we need to checkout with state government whether developer has the right to simply quote the price of car park without any guideline.

I don’t undertand why some people is so STONE! Sp cheliah is goverment project on government own land and leasehold by PDC, the so call developer is only a contractor and they sell cheap bcos is goverment land and they give it cheap and also bcos leasehold. Don’t compare man with women la! I feel this chat room is damn ridiculous

We’re not buying cheap property to be brief or attended in masses, is worth 300k and deserve to be attended privately and personally and and question and queries is answered is polite and professional manner, don’t undertand some want to have briefing with group of stranger. All personal information to be leaked? What a stupid suggestions I’ll never buy if I’m treated in that manner

@POLO. thanks for the initiatives taken. I strongly second you points. Optional additional cost 30-50k is way too high for affordable housing. In view of the additional car park is almost everyone’s need in future, the 30/50k is no different with ‘forcing’ to buy already. Take it or leave it. If you need further supports from me (eligible selected buyer), pls let me know. Only government state could protect our rights. if no other choices.

@Nee, if you have answer i would like to know too.

@ken: i was informed the same regarding the ‘addring value’ /appreciation of the unit upon completion of the project for better sales in future. The intial intention of the developer have deviated from the affordable housing objectives at the first place which is to help the first time buyer to cope the hiking price of property and have a roof to stay instead .As we are not even own any house prior to this , what is more to flip flop it? the appreciation of value /sell in good price in future that pinpointed during the briefing session is just something not rights. you could sense that. Nevertheless, the services of sales reps is professional i could say, but the developer’s initial intention and objectives should be reevaluated and weighed upon.

Transparency will be the main points to clarify and regain their position as the first ever best ever affordable housing scheme. Instead of attenting to all queries one by one, they could finalise one with confirmed details to answer the queries this not only show their high integrity and transparency but reduce confusion. Transparency is vital in the current scenario and the benchmark to which car park quoted @ 30k in tandem , 50k side by side.
etc: Why the 50k side by side? Whynot the 30k side by side for all?
What our penang state government’s practise with transparency ( all important relevant memo/notices/ forms/ info easy accessible at Komtar ‘s respective department ) is something Aspen Group could imitate and learn from.

@GMC: true that Rm50k could purchase one LC apartment in mainland.
@ CK: Appreciate all your comments here.

i guess all potential buyer’s heart are bleeding by taking into consideration of the sales reps explanation (echoing) :

i) 50% stamp duty exemption ( below 400k)
ii) developer ‘s will to absorb S&P fee , ONLY if you take the upgrade package

An immediate proper policies and guildelines is seriously needed. Only with passed through guidelines should the right’s of current buyer/potential buyer in the future regardless LMC, LC, affordable housing scheme be rest assured /protected by those developer whose integrity being doubts. You can start to imagine in coming years, one additional car park in tandem and side by side to cost you RM60k/70k/ 80k 90k in view of the inflation. What will the situation be? If the reason of inflation could be reasonably be accepted, we as buyer should then getting ready and save more money now to secure car park in future with the hike price. Affordable housing with affordable price is ‘low’ to be ‘ attractive’ ( in term of promoting, advertising, branding at frist stage, tacket your needs ( low price) ) but upon selection process granted by penang state with potential buyers name list, it come out the initial price with unacceptable ‘Luxurious’ car park price. ( which sound’ unrelated’ to penang state government any longer, since name list have come out and approved , lets let me decide what i like for the car park price then ).
ultimately, the final solution and outcome is not to only solve current dilemma but for betterment in the future for more coming up potential buyers’ rights and protection. The sharing out is not for stir more mess but to gather the voice of all as one. Hope no offensive of the comments.

This is a free market. Land belongs to AG so I cannot understand why they must lower their car park price to the “benchmark” set by buyers. Free market calls for demand and supply. Land is theirs so they can call their price. If buyers unhappy to pay the price, you can reject and move to other affordable housing like Teluk Kumbar and mainland. Then you as buyer no need to headache. And if AG price is really too high, end up no one will buy and they will make losses.

Even in Singapore, HDB price is determined by market forces. It is not determined by what the buyers want it to be priced at. Therefore, when demand is bad, price drops. If locality is strategic like in the heart of Singapore, price of HDB is selling for SGD1 million like the price of condo in the suburb.

What I am trying to say here is for the strategic location of Tri Pinacle where there is higher demand, one cannot expect to get it dirt cheap. Why compare to Chelliah. Why dont you compare with affordable housing at Teluk Kumbar. If Teluk Kumbar is much cheaper compared to TriPinnacle, then why dont you buy at Teluk Kumbar. Ask yourselves.

@vic
strongly agree with you.

You are in neutral position too. Yes, we need proper policies and guidelines.

I will choose i-santorini over this one. Better location. Next to Tesco. Short walk to Straits Quay.

Prepare to park your car at level 12 if you do not buy extra carpark or package.

@ken

if got any Open session for discussion please let us know.
i believe many of them also interest to know the detail, many of them is 1st time buy a house and some more is affordable house.. because now many uncertainty thing and we aslo not sure in future the house will become like what.

Ken….thanks for your email.

Hi all, may i know if there is anything a successful applicant should do now, while waiting for further notification for the balloting process? Just wait?

If I got a not so nice unit during balloting, can I withdraw?

Yes, you can. But you got to line up from the beginning again like a new applicant, plus I think you cannot reject for more than 3 times. Or else you will get blacklisted. @kk

@Smart
I think I-Santorini has been shelved for new affordable project.

@C
Seems all is waiting. my rep says the banker will call me around late feb or early march

Think we should call them again after CNY for further details

Seems like the developer is trying to make big profit by offering packages and those who pay higher get better unit. Can we work together to have this highlighted to state housing in Komtar?

Hi

We must get loan from their panel bank MBSB only?

@XF
Hi

Did the banker contact u?

When I ask the Tri Pinnacle personnel, they basically say the banker ‘not confirmed’ yet

The sales person told me that the upgrading package if I take up the package ( additional carpark and renovation ) it cost me $110k. Is that correct? Between we are only allow to ballot 1 time only even if you took up the package.

Can someone confirm?

@sherlock

Yes the MBSB banker has contacted me. Asking me to submit documents.

@XF
Hi, after attended briefing from AG, so meanwhile just can wait for banker contact us is it ?

any updates from the others? I tried to approach other bank it seems all no accept loan application for this project.

It is plainly ridiculous if Tri Pinnacle only has MBSB for loan.

What is going on?

Got show room to see?

I have applied PN1 at jabatan perumahan komtar.
After the first batch of successful list came out i write another appeal letter about my desire of secure a unit of tri pinnacle project.
The problem is, I’m not sure whether I need to write another application letter to buy tri pinnacle condominium to jabatan perumahan.
Now the erumah portal show that I am under waiting list, I’m so worried about I didnt write any application letter to buy tri pinnacle at first.
Please advise me what can I do to raise my chances of approval?!

@Chan
u can direct ask AG, just call them 604-2275000.

@chan
I did called komtar before, we are not allow to choose any project. Once your name is in the system of erumah then we just wait for the govt to ballot on which project you can get

Hows the progress so far?
MBSB called and asked for IC and pay slips, in order to allow them to check my credit record with BNM.. But can only apply loan after balloting..

Anyone knows when is the balloting?

@evonne thanks for the information. I’m register during first quarter of 2014, do u think it is possible to get a unit?

May I know Where is the mbsb office located in penang?

Anybody know the original 1st car park included in rm300k is front-rear type or side-side type?