what will be price for this project

Strata or individual title ?

Mmmmm….I think this must be around RM500K and above…

Just my thoughts……

Where is location?

Got early bird discount?

i just called to the agent. Already launch 2 months ago. 70++ units sold out. RM500k++ above.

i won’t buy a house not develop by good reputation company…

LA 22×46 only? so small?

Mok @

Look at the BSG project at Taman Bagan. So lousy and Poor Workmanship.
Somemore selling at sky high price.

Nowadays keep your eyes open wide. Reputable developer doesn’t = Quality Developer…
So far, Got abit quality developer is Centro Hill @ De Centro.
You can still see the taukeh and taukeh Soh, talk to them directly and if anything or defect straight away the boss will do for you.

One of its latest project which obtain OC already is Pangsapuri Tanjung Permai, Raja Uda. Low profile project….

This Northern Guide Property is just a housing agent only & not a developer.

lalazai @

Well, If LA is only 22X46!!! for me its really damn expensive…

I think 22’X46′ is built up area, not possible to be land area.

LA=22×80; BU=22×46

It’s opposite a quarry, there are lorries and cement trucks there, quite near a graveyard too

lah Dt opposite a lot of lorries & a lot of dust near the area

wah, like that also can sell at 500k above? because of guard & gated?

@lalazai
not because of gated & guarded, it greedy developer. Buy the house built by expert developer such as IJM, PJD, Mah Sing etc, gated & guarded project need very good management, don’t expect good & quality work deliver by inexperience developer.

when will the govermen take action against the greedy developers & evil speculators … ???

izit crystal park?failure project?

@SK
don’t expect govt will take action against greedy developer, only house buyers can ‘take action’, i.e. boycott to buy. I prefer Carnation Villa by Oriental Max at Bukit Minyak (behind Aeon Big), is much more cheaper, 2 storey terrace built up 22’x48′, gated & guarded, only RM459k, corner lot only RM529k.

Anyone heard about the developer before? The 24′ type all sold out already.

This is near central way 2 by Oriental Max. CW2 only 430k plus. 3 storey some more. This is over priced!

hi.. anyone knows where is the actual location?

Is this the revival of an old abandoned project called Taman Krystal?
I remember Taman Krystal project was bought over by a company a few years back and rumour has it that the new company is going to rename & relaunch the project. The location is close to a factory called N-Star Metal.

Opps.. i mean Krystal Park, not Taman Krystal.

My friend just bought, he say location very strategy. Izzit?

Any floor plan can be shared?

@Opg
If you want more detail you can get it search from NGP homes Facebook fan page. That side have every detail.

I just bought it 1 unit for own stay. Selling price 518k, LA 22×80 worth to buy & invest. In this project also have a private water fun park,can enjoy with family at weekend. Quickly go to grab 1 unit before launching.

@Sk teoh
congratulation! btw, where is the exact location of this project?

Anyone knows about the exact location and the sale office?

NGP is just a property agent so who is the real developer behind this project?

@ck_100
Who is the developer then?

JC :
@ck_100
Who is the developer then?

NGP is the property agent, they are selling multiple projects (Pegasus, Pavilion Park City) but not sure about the actual developer behind it.

Rebate 10K in CNY period.

Received SMS mentioned “officially” launch “again”.

Krystal Park just opposite this, Krystal park is an abandon project since 2007 till date.

Pegasus residence developer is N-Star. They have metal, plastic, and other business.

You can still view from wikimap, they clear their metal factory land for this development.

Any owner here? Do you have any special site(URL) for the owner to voice out/discuss abt this project?

Example:

1) A lot of ppl complaint abt the staircase too narrow to step on.
2) etc etc

The balcony inside the house take out some precious place making the living and dining hall small. It is tricky to clean as it is located in the dusty area. If no, I would have bought one unit.

ooo :The balcony inside the house take out some precious place making the living and dining hall small. It is tricky to clean as it is located in the dusty area. If no, I would have bought one unit.

You mean the air well? Got pro and cons
Pro:
– Create a natural air flow for coolness, you can try out the coolness in pre war house. Almost all have air well design
– Apply less air cond or lower speed fan, save electricity
– Let the sunlight shine in the house

Cons:
– When think of painting the wall, you will have a headache. Don’t forget each level with superb 12 FEET height!!! Plus the distance to roof top! But usually, we will hire ppl to paint external, we can only paint interior.
– Thief might climb in from roof to this air well. But, since the whole building with such high roof, who want to take this risk? (Estimated total height 72 feets to roof)
– due to above security issue, might need to add grille or some slab to cover it??
– more air flow in, more dust

My mistake, estimated total height should be 36 feet

Went to see the show house. Chart show only 5 units left which is the first row facing SW. I doubt that is the real demand.

Like:-
– Big LA and spacious.
– 14ft height in first floor.
– Backyard 8ft green space.
– The selling price consider cheap for this size of DST, can consider as superlink.

Dislike:-
– The facade design
– Car porch only half way floor tile.
– Bath room only 7ft wall tile.
– The surrounding is suck for now, unless developer can buy over the land beside the project and make it more nicer as residency area. Same feeling for project CW and CW2.

@Chocolate
Is that true there is a sand mining site just besides Pegasus, can be viewed from google map.

@abc
the air well doesn’t help much on the coolness unless u always keep the access door open but meantime u let the dust go inside ur house too.

The logistic company beside will create dust. And the land if view from Wikimapia is a solid rock and thus quite sandy.

Based on the soft/official launch, this project getting a good response. As far as I know, all bigger unit fully sold during soft launch. During official launch till date, only left 5 to 6 units left. It is selling like hot cakes maybe due to location?

@Chocolate
The car porch will have tiles till the gate. The agent told that they need to dig drain in front of house, hence they only apply 1/2 of the tiles on car porch.

@Chris
Opposite this project is the abandon project, they blast the hill 7 years ago. That is why you see rock and sand in wikimap.

Since the iconic city start to develop at this moment, I believe that this bukit tengah housing area will develop soon as it is very near to iconic city (around ~1km).

Abc, the salesperson told me the car porch only half tile only, unless they gave me wrong info.

There is one segregation center just beside the corner lot and I curious who willing to buy the unit? Or developer already buy the land from owner?

@Chocolate
The sales person told me till gate. Anyone sign the SPA already? SPA wrote anything on the balcony tiles and car porch tiles? Please share with us…
But I think why do 1/2 way tiles if they are not willing to do tiles, this might as well as they place imprint car park. So I assume full tiles for car park.

For bath room, yes, they will do the wall tiles till 7 feet. But the tiles quite nice. It is not those cheapo tiles…Thus far, new project like those reputable developer (airmas) only give full tiles but their project with premium price…

Segregation center? you mean the recycle unit just left to the entrance? I have no idea. But if refer to the project plan, I assume that area should be belongs to this project? Anyone can verify that?

i just bought a unit on saturday..the unit i bought is the last unit for non bumis according to the sales person..

Likes:
-Location, easy access to BM, Seberang Jaya, Perda, NSE, Juru
-big LA and spacious backyard (8-10 feet is considered spacious for poor fag like me)
-12 feet roof for both floors (higher roof = cooler house)
-IMO, the price is considered quite cheap (as compared to another unit i was considering in taman bagan, the price for that unit starts at 788K)
-the internal design, especially the bedrooms. not much modifications needed.

Dislikes:
-pointless balcony design, even the sales person couldn’t explain why the glass is placed there
-the unit i bought is right behind the warehouse/transportation depot
-surrounding pretty sucky for the moment as this is the only visible housing project at that area
-12 feet roof = troublesome spidey web cleaning session

neutral:
-air well. like for the airflow, dislike for the trouble it may bring; example, thief climb in, the airwell section wall gonna be hell dirty due to rain water spoiling the paint and stuffs. the sales men did told me to use fiber glass to partially close the area though, so that light will still come and a certain amount of airflow will still be there

@rack
According to sales person, they have the glass and metal grille in balcony. This is due to when submit plan to the gov, they only submit till glass area. The grille area is the extend part to the balcony, they do this to provide full shading to the parking area…

I assumed that you are taking the 22 by 82 LA…

I think we need to so something on the master bedroom, did you notice that there are some metal air ducts in the celling? It need a lot of maintenance to clean it as well. Can we remove it and fill up the hole with glass/brick?

me and few friends of mine already purchased few units there. We all noticed few design problems….the biggest problem is the beam on top of the staircase, its so low and almost hit our head. We got one of our friends to call the NGP boss and we sincerely hope they can do something to change the design. Did any one of you notice this design problem?

The beam on the staircase really low….we all really don’t like it at all.

Hi Buyer,

Since you mentioned it. YES!!! I remember it!! I am totally agree with you. The beam there above the staircase very low, my father almost kena langgar because my father is tall.

I really hope NGH can do something to change it, otherwise, I think more and more people will complain about it and their nama will also become busuk.

Ya Loh…I remember now, the staircase design really bad and parlia.

Especially the beam above the staircase, so low, like prison only.

Good luck to those already purchased. I went to the show house and also noticed this bad design. Luckily I didn’t buy Haaa Haa…Haaa

hi Rack

Did you noticed the beam above the stair case?

Also, the electic meter box should be located at the Gate, not above the main door.

Thanks

@rack

Not only that beam, the staircase’s step also got problem, step too narrow, really palia.

Haa

Maybe NGP designers are short.

NGP just an agent lah. They are not a deveper. So they will not focus on designing a good quality house.

I looked the staircase step and the beam above the staircase. Maybe the designer can only design single storey house. Ha..

Luckily I didn’t buy..

Luckily I didn’t buy.

@Mr Tan

I agree with you on the staircase and the beam above the staircase but if you don’t buy, please don’t make such negative comment here.

I am sure the developer or NGP will do something or improvment to the staircase step and the beam above it.

I think its a good buy!

Wah…so many people complain about the staircase step and the beam, Jia Lat liao.

My sister booked one unit there and I will tell her to think twice.

I think NGP’s reputation really teruk this time.

I thought i am the only one who noticed that. Actually it is my in-law who noticed that. Since then, i feel beh siok liao.

@James

Hi James, looks like many purchasers have already noticed it but nobody highlighed to the developer. I worry, the developer / NGP will not do anything about it.

Have you talked to them about these issue?

I experienced this situation b4 for my landed property in island. I hav no choice cuz there is no show house till only noticing when OC. Taller people will hit the beam when walk down. In order to solve this, the beam cannot hack cuz it’s joint with other ceiling. We propose other option to solve the issue but developer not willing to do. They only can shift the whole stair case inwards by few inches. Consequently, this only improves but not solve the issue. On top of that, due to the stair case shift few inches, the last step b4 the 2nd stopper becomes not aligned and ugly. I suggest you guys taking this seriously and address to developer and hopefully not too late. Don’t let this limit you to sell to potential customer in future.

My sister called the sales person but they said they will look into it, but another friend of mine told me that, NGP is not a experience developer, they just agent and they will not do anything. I feel NGP should do something seriuos about it as all the constructions are not even started yet, so they should be able to change it.

Is only the question – does NGP want to do it?

Maybe this Pegasus house is only for short people

Or, the designer / architect of this property is very short, so they don’t see this problem.

Good luck to all the purchasers of this Pegasus property!

I agree with Mr Tan, maybe the designer / architect of this property is very short person. so, they don’t see this problem.

I also noticed this staircase and beam problem when we visited the show house, but when I asked the sales person, they all very diam-diam..I think the sales people already noticed this problem but diam-diam only.

if we already signed the SNP, how to change it? I don’t want to wait until the OC then only change.

Any suggestion?

I called them just now but no answer. I really worried now.

Hope this project will not fail.

I did talked to them before, they said they didn’t hear any similar complain from other buyers. But they will bring up my concern. then no news liao. i did not follow up also.

@James
James

I also made the same complain but the sales told me that I was the only person made this comment.

Looks like they must have received many complaints about the staircase step and the beam but maybe they just ignore it.

I think we must get together and voice out this complain together.

Can we cancel the SNP? can get back the down payment or not?

My mistake, car porch will have tiles till half only, not till the gate. For bath room, they will do the wall tiles till 7 feet, so have to add tiles by ourself if need until ceiling height – spend some money guys. After thinking them carefully, the airwell actually will bring more cons than pros, more troubles than I thought; poor design. The metal air ducts in the celling of master bedroom cannot be closed, so have to live with it, no choice. The beam on top of the staircase, its so low and almost can hit heads for average tall person, but it cannot be simply shifted since it is the horizontal beam.

@abc
2 person register as abc? Who give you the info on the car porch only build 1/2 way? The developer? Or ngphomes? The master bed room air duct, I think owner need to do their own renovation to close it, maybe add some fixed type glass to block the air duct…

@serene Lim
Once you sign the SPA, you cannot get back your down payment. You are the legal owner now.

Hi All,

I totally agree with ‘buyer’, we need to get together and complain to the developer or the NGP. 1 or 2 persons complain, NGP or the developer can ignore, but if more than 5 or 10 peoples complain, NGP or the developer can not ignore it anymore.

Remember, we are the purchaser, we are the users, we are the consumer and we are the customers.

Lets get together and voice our complain together.

Let’s get together and voice our complain together! Don’t let the developer and NGP play-play us..

Hi all,

Modification still possible at this stage I think. Please don’t wait till the >20% development only make complaints… That time will be too late…

Just my 2 cents… Anyone notice that the courtyard ( between the maid room and kitchen ) left open with no glass door or wall? in this case, that area might be flooded b4 any VP or OC obtained… Anyone notice this?

@Eric
If there is the case, how we gather and launch an official group complaint to Pegasus. NGP is just the marketing agent. I personally also not agree with 3 items.
1. The air duct in the master room.
2. The staircase design.
3. The glass at the balcony.

Hopefully with majority feedback, it will push the developer for better improvement on the design.

Fully agree with chengyang888. Let’s get together for our benefit! !

If anyone of you knows other purchasers who has no access to this blog. Please go ahead and inform them about the group complaints we plan to do soon before its too late.

Ok?

Hi Friends / neighbours

I have created a gmail email address

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Lets send all your emails to this gmail and we start to plan / talk / discuss for group complains.

I have seen many other people failed to voice their complain to the developer or their complain not being taken seriuos – because, these people operate on 1 or 2 person basis and developer usually don’t take it seriuos unless we go in as a army, a group and a team.

Lets stand up for our rights!

If we don’t, we will be living with these design defects, design erros, design mistake for the rest of our life!

Let’s do it!!

I am not purchase here, but just busybody nia.

Actually, I almost purchase when i visited the site during CNY, but after I noticed the design problem such as

1) Staircase design (step and the beam)
2) The air duct in the masterbed room

I decided not to buy it, especially when I mentioned this to the sales person, they all either just ‘siam’ or ‘diam-diam’ walk away.

I think what you all are doing now is correct, get together and launch a official complain as its not too late now.

One more thing, I fully agree with ‘buyer’, if you all don’t make an effort to complain for better design, you all will have to live with it for the rest of your life!

I speak from my personal experience! few year ago, I also kena with one greedy developer. They promised this and promise that, will do this and will do that, but after I buyt my house and when I got the OC—–I almost pensan…

Because the staircase step and also the same low beam problem, it made my house look like a rabbit hole and its design for Hobbit only!

Agree to Mr Tan and buyer.

I have some past experience.. most of the buyers will be too lazy to complaint/feedback… and when oc obtained, they only scold and curse (after realized they need to fork out their $ for modification)

This project’s design engineer is PERUNDING AG & same with Centralway 2. I am a Centralway2’s purchaser. I found a serious mistake done on Centralway 2’s site & complained to this engineer but they just keep quite & no action taken. I already post the mistake on Centralway’s property talk. If you all want to complained to this lousy engineer can called 04-3988008 Mr. Goh

Hi All,

Thank you very much for your feedbacks.

Lets get serious here. Instead of we talk, talk, talk and talk here, lets get together and launch an official complain to the NGP, the developer and also the design engineer.

No point complain after we get the OC, cry father cry mother also no use!!!

Lets do it before its too late.

Send all your email and info to this email account

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Thank you!

Hi All,

Thank you very much for your feedbacks.

Lets get serious here. Instead of we talk, talk, talk and talk here, lets get together and launch an official complain to the NGP, the developer and also the design engineer.

No point complain after we get the OC, cry also no use liao.

Lets do it before its too late.

Send all your email and info to this email account

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Thank you!

My sister told me, she also Beh Sok Liao, because her son is 5’7″ tall and also complain about the staircase step and the beam.

Her hushband complain about the open air slot in masterbed room. He said, the design looks like 1960’s.

I hear also Beh Sok Liao.

Ong :My sister told me, she also Beh Sok Liao, because her son is 5’7″ tall and also complain about the staircase step and the beam.
Her hushband complain about the open air slot in masterbed room. He said, the design looks like 1960′s.
I hear also Beh Sok Liao.

Are you kidding? 5’7″ is equivalent to 170cm only wo. It’s not consider tall.

change name as my comment being blocked by admin..

sok or beh sok, once you already signed SnP, developer is at win site, not the buyer. Futhermore, house plan already been approved by architeure, mpsp etc.
you can see they already build one row of house at the site. i don’t think developer will change the house plan even though buyers complaints. Changing the house plan not only will delay this project, developer also need to bear the cost of change plan. Do you think developer so kind enough to keluar $$$$ from their pocket?

You already went to see the show unit before you signed the SnP. Why buy if got so many complaints to the house plan?

i agreed that the house plan very pahlia.

14 years old for 5’7″, giving him 2-3 more years, he will bang his head againt the beam everytime he walks thru the staircase.

My hubby is 5’9″, he almost bang his head when he visited the show house.

so, this is a real problem now!

Hi Mikey

Actually, what you said is true. Once we signed the S&P, the developer will do whatever they want.

Now, we are not giving up!

According to my experience dealing with developers in the past, they can always change the house plan (of cause not major change) to meet purchasers’ request.

Again, i must empahsis this – the request of change must be reasonable.

We can not ask the developer to change our house layout from 20×46 to 22×50, agree?

but, changing the staircase step and the beam is very very possible at this stage especially when the house is not fully build and its very simple process if they change it now.

However, once the house is builded. NO WAY we can change it!!

Therefore, we must get together and launch an official group complain to the develper or NGP.

buyer :Hi Mikey
Actually, what you said is true. Once we signed the S&P, the developer will do whatever they want.
Now, we are not giving up!
According to my experience dealing with developers in the past, they can always change the house plan (of cause not major change) to meet purchasers’ request.
Again, i must empahsis this – the request of change must be reasonable.
We can not ask the developer to change our house layout from 20×46 to 22×50, agree?
but, changing the staircase step and the beam is very very possible at this stage especially when the house is not fully build and its very simple process if they change it now.
However, once the house is builded. NO WAY we can change it!!
Therefore, we must get together and launch an official group complain to the develper or NGP.

Fully agree with Buyer!

@buyer

you can try compliant to developer but i think the chances developer change the house layout will be very low. This is due to they already built one row of houses.. not only they need to resubmit the plan for goverment authority to re-approve later, they also need to change internal layout of those first row houses. You would need to gather as many buyer as possible when filed complaints to developer. more people hor jo su. Good luck !

I only got to know this blog not too long ago. It looks like many complains about the staircase design and the beam and the glass at the balcony and the tiles at car porch etc.

The designer of this property really doing a bad job.

Luckily I didn’t buy!

Mikey :@buyer
you can try compliant to developer but i think the chances developer change the house layout will be very low. This is due to they already built one row of houses.. not only they need to resubmit the plan for goverment authority to re-approve later, they also need to change internal layout of those first row houses. You would need to gather as many buyer as possible when filed complaints to developer. more people hor jo su. Good luck !

Mikey

Are you the purchaser too?

There are few points I would like to make it. I called up few friends of mine (who happened to be in Construction line), they told me if we voice up the complain fast enough, they can do the modification without costing the developer big money, just need to

1) change / crack down the existing stair structure and build with the new design. Very easy
2) submit the modification plan, especially for safety reason. The government authority will approve it due to safety reason.

– the narrow staircase step, may cause people to fall
– the low beam may cause people to bang their head and further, how will you be able to move your bigger items / furniture to upstair.

I fully agree with Mikey that we need to complie all the complain and submit to them.

If I want to complain also, how? really worried now. This is my first time buying a house, never expect to face this problem.

can I change the staircase step and also the beam after I get the OC? how much will it cost?

buyer :

Mikey :@buyer
you can try compliant to developer but i think the chances developer change the house layout will be very low. This is due to they already built one row of houses.. not only they need to resubmit the plan for goverment authority to re-approve later, they also need to change internal layout of those first row houses. You would need to gather as many buyer as possible when filed complaints to developer. more people hor jo su. Good luck !

Mikey
Are you the purchaser too?
There are few points I would like to make it. I called up few friends of mine (who happened to be in Construction line), they told me if we voice up the complain fast enough, they can do the modification without costing the developer big money, just need to
1) change / crack down the existing stair structure and build with the new design. Very easy
2) submit the modification plan, especially for safety reason. The government authority will approve it due to safety reason.
– the narrow staircase step, may cause people to fall
– the low beam may cause people to bang their head and further, how will you be able to move your bigger items / furniture to upstair.
I fully agree with Mikey that we need to complie all the complain and submit to them.

My experience dealing with developer, if you don’t complain and defence your right, they will just ignore you. You all need to remember, the Malaysia consumer law suppose to protect we – consumer, but if you don’t voice it out, who will protect you and defence your right?

My first house also have the same design problem, I spotted the design errors / design problem after I signed the S&P. The developer told me that they can not do anything and they just walk away, I finally went all the way to file a complain at the consumer right association etc.

Finally, the developer change it for me. ONLY for my house.

I won, because I told the consumer right association that – what if I get kill or injure in the house due to the design error?

So, perhaps you guys need to do the same!! Group up and launch an official complain!

Don’t let the developer or the sales agent play you out!

the sales agent sell and they go….but you will live in the house for long time, or if you plan to sell the house after OC…you will not be able to sell with good price due to the design problem.

@ Serene Lim
It will be messy if you hack the staircase on your own after OC…

1) Estimate about >10k or more?
2) Can you find back the same matching tiles?
3) It will damage your floor and wall
4) Cement that repatch will be not compatible with the previous cement. This might cause the stairs to crack.
5) Imagine the dust of hacking the stairs and rebuild…

For design engineer’s mistake you can sent complained letter to IEM-Institution of engineers Malaysia – 04-8182045 Ir. Paul Phor
For developer’s false sent complained letter to Rehda-Real Estate & housing Developers’ Association Malaysia -0378032978
Consumer Association of Penang – 04-8299511
All this info & complained letter can download from Google.
Please c.c. all letter to developer for prove.

abc :
@ Serene Lim
It will be messy if you hack the staircase on your own after OC…
1) Estimate about >10k or more?
2) Can you find back the same matching tiles?
3) It will damage your floor and wall
4) Cement that repatch will be not compatible with the previous cement. This might cause the stairs to crack.
5) Imagine the dust of hacking the stairs and rebuild…

Money is one thing, to handle all the mess during the modification is another thing.

abc is totally right about it but i would like to add one more comment here, once your house is fully build, NO WAY, you can change or move the beam or the staircase step. Just simply too complex! and it would impact the structure design too.

The beam and the staircase step much be done at begining stage! NOT at final stage.

Hi Rack, are you reading this blog?

Are you the spy? Working for the developer? Why suddenly so diam diam?

First, I would thanks buyer to be initiative to create a email address for us to post our feedback. pegasusresidence@gmail.com

I have done my part to sent out my concern. Hopefully you guys will help to share your concern as well. I think it is difficult for developer to address every single concern form us. It is better that we gather all our concern and pick the top 3 most significant complaints to feedback.

I also bought a unit here, agree with the following issues:

1)balcony glass
2)narrow step
3)horizontal beam

Perhaps we can decide a date and go to the developer/sales agent office, and voice everything out. It’s better than complaining here.

@L

L, That’s our plan.

Please send your feedbacks to this email

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

We are putting together a plan now.

Looking forward hearing from you soon

Wah…so many complaints about the staircase design. One piece of info to share with you all. NGP is just an agent, once you sign the S&P, they just run away and they don’t care if you live and die in the property.

I also burned by one of the greedy property developer in the past and I can understand your frastruction now.

I also learned from my previous experience, the only way to deal with this problem, you all need to gang up and team up and put all the complaints / all the voices into one BIG complaint and VOICE it all to the developer.

if, you talk to the developer by yourself (1 man show)….you end up running and jumping around like a monkey in a zoo…they just laugh at you.

Wah…so many complaints about the staircase design. One piece of info to share with you all. NGP is just an agent, once you sign the S&P, they just run away.

You all need to team up and voice up all the complaints together.

If you talk to the Developer or NGP alone (1 man show), you end up running around, jumping around like a money in a zoo.

this is sign of in-experience developer. doubt on quality and how the management of facilties.

The more I think about it, the more we need to get together and form an effective team. I fully agree with BM lang’s comment.

This developer may be inexperience and therefore, we need to create our own team and keep a close monitor to the development of this project, after all we are the purchasers and will be staying in this property, not the agent or the developer.

I have already sent my comments / complaints to pengasusresidence@gmail.com

For those who hasn’t done so, please do your part and send it

Thank you to Buyer for leading this and this united complaints are bold moves. Just to add my 2 cents for the following:

1. You can also seek advices from National House Buyers Association of Malaysia (HBA).
2. For complaint letter to developer to change or correct the design/building plan, pls cc MPSP and quote MPSP building plan approval number as printed inside SPA.
Note: when signing SPA, usually developer will let buyers sign a document or letter stated that developer have the right to ammend (by resubmittng for reapproval) building plan, layout plan, specification as needed if required by local authority, like MPSP due to safety and regulation reasons. So, it’s time to use this against them and the staircase beam safety issue is right issue to use this provision.
3. List out the change required to developer according to severity and urgency first. Those structural change that required ammendment to layout or buidling plan is more urgent. Here is my opinion:
a. Horizontal beam across the living room above the staircase.
b. Air duct in master bedroom
c. Small staircase step
d. the glass at balcony vs the metal grille – not design error but perhaps something that they don’t want to disclose it.
4. Also, start to contact and copy your banker in case you want them (the disbursement officers) to help to slow down or hold the progressive payment to ensure developer do the changes.
Good luck. I can sense that you guys can be successful in this request.

I phoned to ngp just now. They said they will solve the narrow step by extending with some wooden material, which I am not sure about the details. But looks like they are responding to it. For the horizontal beam, they said its already fixed and approved by those architects. And nothing can be done. Bt still I think we should give it a try.

@L
L

Having the low horizontal beam is the worse thing would happen to all of us.

We will never give up.

Can you imagine this? ?

The design so bad that they don’t even have solution to it.

Please send your email to pegasusresidence@gmail.com

The narrow step of staircase and low horizontal beam must be solved. Hopefully NGP took the responsibility and help purchasers to request developer for solution.

@B
B,

Thanks for your comment, we are not going to sit here and complaining for nothing, we are actually working out a real things here.

Please send your email to this email account

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Thanks

Together we stand a choice, apart we lose everything!

Actually, I am just busybody nia. I curi curi went to the site this afternoon and check out the design problems you guys mentioned such as the staircase step, the beam above the staircase, the open slot in the masterbed room.

Let me tell you all the true, all these problems can be fixed very very very easily lah. Just question if the developer or the NGP willing to do it.

I also check around, this developer is very new and this is their first project, if they don’t fix this problem. i think their next project will be difficult to sell.

but, this developer will be super rich liao after this Pegasus project, so you all makan sendiri lah.

One more thing, the staircase step and the beam design really ugly lah, I felt sorry for you guys to stay there for the rest of your life… HA HA..

Typo

Together we stand a chance. Apart we lose everything! !

Frankly, I still think that project is worth buying la because of the location and the $$ and also potential future development around that area. It will be better if the developer work on the staircase beam and narrow staircase (priority). For me, the air duct and glass in front of balcony is still ok for me. However, if those design can be fixed as well, it will be a bonus point . As per buyer mentioned, let us unite and voice a official complaint to the developer and we will stand a chance to have a better, improved staircase.

As I know the developer plan to involve in developing new housing project in future. Currently, Pegasus residences is their first project. Hopefully they will spend more effort to make sure their first project is a success as this matter their reputation in future.

Lets make Pegasus Residence as the laughing stock or landmark of the biggest joke of the year!

1) Rabbit Hole House
2) Hobbit House
3) Pegasus Residence also name as P.R = Pendek Residence
4) Pegasus Residence is only for short man.

Ha..Ha..

Kan Ni Niaaaa

We all become Rabbit??

Hi All,

did anyone of you contacted the developer for the design problems? what’s the status now?

the more i read about it, the more worries I have.

I don’t noticed this problem when i visited during CNY, now i understand…the sales kept talking to me when I walked around the house and they were distracted my attentions.

Help Help Help

Hi All,

I googled Northern Guide Property and found nothing, their website domain also invalid.

Can anyone please tell me where to look for their proper website?

I hope NGP is not closing donwn..or run way….

Really worry…can anyone please help to share more ideas?

NGP – Never Got Promise!

NGP – Never Got Plan

@Serene Lim

Deal with the developer directly and just need to cc NGP as only the developer can instruct their contractor to change after filling (if needed) for change with MPSP.

Think about how u want to dry ur clothing since not good to hang outside bcoz of the dusty environment. Think about u need to wash ur car every couple day if too much dust deposit. Good luck, all buyer.

ooo :
Think about how u want to dry ur clothing since not good to hang outside bcoz of the dusty environment. Think about u need to wash ur car every couple day if too much dust deposit. Good luck, all buyer.

How sure are u the surrounding area will not developed in 2 years down the road?

Chocolate :

ooo :Think about how u want to dry ur clothing since not good to hang outside bcoz of the dusty environment. Think about u need to wash ur car every couple day if too much dust deposit. Good luck, all buyer.

How sure are u the surrounding area will not developed in 2 years down the road?

Develop or no develop, now we are fighting to fix all the design problems

1) Staircase Step
2) Low Beam above staircase
3) Glass at balcony
4) Open slot in masterbed room

we need your advise.

Fight still have to fight..

But..if u buy after seeing the show house, what excuse u want to talk to developer, u already touch and see the real thing, now u jumping here and there??? I am not pouring the cold water to u, but must caution mar. Different story la if buy before show house ready.

What to do now? Stand together and meet them la..

Chocolate :Fight still have to fight..
But..if u buy after seeing the show house, what excuse u want to talk to developer, u already touch and see the real thing, now u jumping here and there??? I am not pouring the cold water to u, but must caution mar. Different story la if buy before show house ready.
What to do now? Stand together and meet them la..

Hi Chocolate

Can you please send your comments to this complaints group

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Thanks

I have asked the developer on their plan on narrow staircase. They mentioned that they put the long wider wooden planks towards the staircase. They will not make modification on the drawing to make the staircase have wider step. Frankly, I not really agree with the proposed solution. Think it will make it more ugly and also make the lower beam issue more significant..

Don’t tell me that they replace the tiles on the staircase with maybe 1 inch wider wood!
With this solution, they can even save more! Replacing tiles cost to wood.

The staircase design already wrong & not easy to solve this staircase. I study the stair layout & found that the upper part cannot add step due to the room’s door & bottom part cannot add step due to clear height clash by 1st floor beam, so the only way is reduce the depth of the 1st floor beam to 400mm instead of 600mm now. This need the engineer to redesign the beam & add steel bar to strengthen the beam.

Actually the design engineer already do a big mistake. He supposed to provide a column before staircase (hide inside store’s wall) & not let the big 1st floor beam crossing the staircase. The beam above staircase can reduce to 200mm depth (or upstand beam) in this case.

If they put column in the middle, the living area and dinning area will be smaller.

Did you measure the height from the stairs to beam? That day I went, just notice that it is near to the beam. But I don’t feel that the beam block my way… To me still ok to access..

abc :
If they put column in the middle, the living area and dinning area will be smaller.
Did you measure the height from the stairs to beam? That day I went, just notice that it is near to the beam. But I don’t feel that the beam block my way… To me still ok to access..

Because you are short! !! Ha ha..rabbit!!

haha, since you are not owner here, and try to make fun on everyone here…

I can tell that I am >180cm. And I have been monitoring properties since 10 years back, to me this property is in my top 10 list…

The column is hide in wall between living & store under staircase. With this solution, designer can add. step on lower flight & increase the tread to 255mm. (I measure on site is 225mm only)

abc :
haha, since you are not owner here, and try to make fun on everyone here…
I can tell that I am >180cm. And I have been monitoring properties since 10 years back, to me this property is in my top 10 list…

I am 190cm. Ha..ha..

I’m the buyer, since you all complaints on the staircase, I just now went to view sample house, but today no open, i went to view beside sample house, the staircase is reasonable…and i already call to developer and they said they already amend to 11 feet…

Called to the developer’s representative just now, they are going to re-design the staircase. In this case, the horizontal beam and narrow steps hopefully can be solved. They will have a meeting with the architects next week, then will inform the buyers. They have a list of buyer who has already signed the S&P.

So, if you are an owner of the house and wish to get more information, please launch your complaints to pegasusresidence@gmail.com

@buyer is doing a good job as the administrator of the email account. Credits to him.*Clap Clap*

abc :
haha, since you are not owner here, and try to make fun on everyone here…
I can tell that I am >180cm. And I have been monitoring properties since 10 years back, to me this property is in my top 10 list…

Not trying funny u but really interested to know why top 10?

We want to see serious discussion here. Hopefully those kepo non-owner please stop talking nonsense here.

L :Called to the developer’s representative just now, they are going to re-design the staircase. In this case, the horizontal beam and narrow steps hopefully can be solved. They will have a meeting with the architects next week, then will inform the buyers. They have a list of buyer who has already signed the S&P.
So, if you are an owner of the house and wish to get more information, please launch your complaints to pegasusresidence@gmail.com
@buyer is doing a good job as the administrator of the email account. Credits to him.*Clap Clap*

Thanks L

Actually, the credit should goes out to all the purchasers who share their thoughts, comments and complaints. All our efforts only have one goal —- to make Pegasus Residence a better place to stay, to live a good life in a wonderful neighourhood!!

In the end, we all will be good friends and good neighbours!!

Lets work closely together to create a wonderul home dream for ourselves!

Keep up the good works! All purchasers / Neighbours!

To share why this project draw my attention. Once you walk in, you can feel the solid feel on this with high ceiling and above average workmanship.

For high ceiling, you can have this feelling for those project launch 8 years back, that is balik pulau. Almost all built with high ceiling, but now all change. Balik pulau build those house like pigeon hole, all with small house without land. And the price like >700k

If compare solid (coolness and rigid feel), BSG give the best solid feel. They are using red bricks to build almost all their project. You can visit those house in bagan lalang. But BSG house come with a price, they will build and sell. By the time they offer to general public, the price will be x2 minimal. I see the price from average of 250k grow/up to now >1.4 million.

Next is SP setia, they have a great marketing group. You can see their show house 8 years ago, it is nice BUT on delivery, tons of complaints from the buyers. You can ask your friends on the project.

There are many developers in Penang. Palmex, BSG, xcan -> Ideal property, Mah Sing, Sunway and many other developers.

To talk abt mainland property, AirMas, BSG, DNP land, Tambun indah etc… No doubt AIRMAS and BSG have their reputation here. But all come with premium price.

For this project, for such new developer, not bad for them as a beginner(besides staircase and some other detail layout). You can see from the launching sales. It fully sold till date! If you would like to compare quality among new developer, you can always visit some project such as Bayu Mutiara, some project in JURU, Alma, etc…

So I have fate on this developer, I am willing and dare to take this risk.

@L
Hi L, you did mentioned that the developer will redesign the staircase. Are they refer to both 80X24 and 80X22? They feedback to me that 80X22 doesn’t have problem with the staircase, which I not really believe on it. Currently 80X22 show house is not ready, so I can’ really have a good picture on it.

Tanice Tan :I’m the buyer, since you all complaints on the staircase, I just now went to view sample house, but today no open, i went to view beside sample house, the staircase is reasonable…and i already call to developer and they said they already amend to 11 feet…

11 feet, typo error? The house width only 22 feet or 24 feet.

Hi all,
Just check with the developer, they mentioned that the staircase design already amended. They will open the show house again by tomorrow, 22-Jan 10 am. If you are interested, kindly drop by and have a look.

abc :To share why this project draw my attention. Once you walk in, you can feel the solid feel on this with high ceiling and above average workmanship.
For high ceiling, you can have this feelling for those project launch 8 years back, that is balik pulau. Almost all built with high ceiling, but now all change. Balik pulau build those house like pigeon hole, all with small house without land. And the price like >700k
If compare solid (coolness and rigid feel), BSG give the best solid feel. They are using red bricks to build almost all their project. You can visit those house in bagan lalang. But BSG house come with a price, they will build and sell. By the time they offer to general public, the price will be x2 minimal. I see the price from average of 250k grow/up to now >1.4 million.
Next is SP setia, they have a great marketing group. You can see their show house 8 years ago, it is nice BUT on delivery, tons of complaints from the buyers. You can ask your friends on the project.
There are many developers in Penang. Palmex, BSG, xcan -> Ideal property, Mah Sing, Sunway and many other developers.
To talk abt mainland property, AirMas, BSG, DNP land, Tambun indah etc… No doubt AIRMAS and BSG have their reputation here. But all come with premium price.
For this project, for such new developer, not bad for them as a beginner(besides staircase and some other detail layout). You can see from the launching sales. It fully sold till date! If you would like to compare quality among new developer, you can always visit some project such as Bayu Mutiara, some project in JURU, Alma, etc…
So I have fate on this developer, I am willing and dare to take this risk.

Wah Lau Ei….

This abc now starting talking like NGP sales man liao.

I think this abc is a spy from NGP lah

Great news indeed. How abt others? Such as air duct in master room?

Abc talk like NGP sales man now. Be careful. He is a spy.

I wonder why some response told that developer will discuss with the architect next week and now sudden stated that everything is amended?

I would like to add to Eric’s comment.

abc kept telling people that he is 180cm and he has no problem with the beam design, that shows – abc is definitely a spy and he is speaking for NGP or the developer now.

people has 180cm, usually don’t go around and tell people ” See, i am very tall!!” , only short people always concern how people look at their height.

so, conclusion here

1) abc is a spy
2) abc is a short man like a hobbit!

Ha..

Hi All,

just received confirmation that the show house will be open tomorrow at 10am with just some changes.

my understanding is- the change is very minimal to the staircase and nothing to do with the beam and others.

Nevertheless, I suggest we take middle way and give the benefit of doubt to this changes and we should discuss again after visit the house tomorrow.

For those who can’t make it tomorrow, please send your existing comments / complaints / feedbacks to us (pegasusresidence@gmail.com) and we will try to organise something will help you to check on it.

email – pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Thanks and good luck!

abc :
I wonder why some response told that developer will discuss with the architect next week and now sudden stated that everything is amended?

That’s why- never trust the developer or the sales person especially from NGP

We plan to live there for the rest of our life, but the developer and the NGP just touch and go.

the more I think about it, we need to developer to change the staircase step and the beam. I don’t want to be a rabbit!!!

I have already send my email to pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Well, this is not my 1st, 2nd or 3rd experience with Malaysia properties

Later there will be more attacking from this blog, attack from developer/sales, attack from local gangster contract, surrounding attack (such as new high rise build up, more alien), local tax impose based to the market price (For example, if the market price go up to 700k, tax will be $500+ based on the 7% rate)

Don’t trust unless there are black and white, but our law here don’t protect us much. Too many loop holes…

Hi @abc

I think the status now is the developer side has an improvement plan(that’s what some other meant by amended I suppose), and they are going to discuss with their architect next week. So currently there is a improvement proposal but not yet approved.

@L
The improvement plan is for both 22 and 24 layout?

Anybody went to site & how is the improvement done. I not in Mainland can’t visit the site today.

U mentioned u just visit CW project and here u said u are not in mainland? So which one is true one? Confuse ler..

I visit CW site last Sunday.

I bought many property in Penang & KL, busy to drive up & down to do inspection on site.

Hahaha.. Another 10 houses owner..good good good.

So how is the discussion today since our engineer can not attend?

I went in the morning around 10am but nobody was there. the show house was lock. Anyone visited there?

I heard not much improvement there.

Hi All Purchasers

Any body visited the site this morning?

Any comments? Please share!

Thanks

@Searching

hi Searching

Can you please send email to

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

Would like to seek for your suggestions.

Thank you very much!

Just opinion, rather than spend effort on complaining and follow up with developer. Better buy other project which has no such problem.

Just opinion, rather than spend effort on complaining and follow up with developer. Better buy other project which has no such problem.

Just opinion, rather than spend effort on complaining and follow up. Better buy other project which has no such problem.

little boy :
Just opinion, rather than spend effort on complaining and follow up. Better buy other project which has no such problem.

Do you have any other opportunity to share? I really don’t want to continue with Pegasus anymore. So many problems.

My friend visited the site this morning and informed that, not much improvement made there. The beam still the same and she actually walked up and really felt pressure by knocking her head against the beam.

Her father also made the same comment.

I think, me and my boyfriend must go onsite and check on the house every week now. To check the swimming pool (make sure they don’t build some ugly pool, to check on the lamp post, to check on the road , to check on the cable , to check on window, to check on the door latch), almost need to check everything. Might as well go buy somewhere else.

Why not consider Taman Villa Indah or Taman Indah which located in same area?

since Serene Lim mentioned about it

Do you all have any info about the Pool design? I heard according to the S&P, the pool design will be square type (not curvy curvy like the brochure).

Secondly, the road width 20′ or 30′?

Also, the cable is under ground??

When I do the booking, I was informed the road is 40′ and the cable is under ground.

Can anyone confirm?

NGP is focusing on their next project – Tambun Royale City. Spread the news out about situation Pengasus so that all ppl know they are not responsibility at all. Let them feel the pain!

Chocolate :
NGP is focusing on their next project – Tambun Royale City. Spread the news out about situation Pengasus so that all ppl know they are not responsibility at all. Let them feel the pain!

That’s excellent news!!!

do you have more info about this project? If they don’t fix the problems for Pegasus Residence and will make sure they pay for the price for the next project!!!

Thank you very much!

TS :

Chocolate :
NGP is focusing on their next project – Tambun Royale City. Spread the news out about situation Pengasus so that all ppl know they are not responsibility at all. Let them feel the pain!

That’s excellent news!!!
do you have more info about this project? If they don’t fix the problems for Pegasus Residence and will make sure they pay for the price for the next project!!!
Thank you very much!

I made some phone calls just now and check on the status and here’s what I found out

1) Small change to the staircase step
2) Beam – no change
3) Open air duct – no change
4) Balcony Glass – no change
5) Road width – 30′ (the sales person told me 40′ when I signed the S&P)
6) Cable – no underground which means you will see the TNB pillar everywhere in the area which looks very bad like a spider web (the sales person told me all the cable will be under ground when I signed the S&P)

These days, for all the new residence site, new taman, new housing area, all the electrical cables are hide under ground and again, all the purchasers were being cheated again by the NGP and the developer.

Spread the news!!! Please!!
Really bad feeling now!!!!!!!

That shows the quality of pegasus is really low. Many purchasers also not aware of it until Serene Lim brought it up just now.

TS :
6) Cable – no underground

I don’t think they able to provide underground cable in this selling price.

abc :
I went in the morning around 10am but nobody was there. the show house was lock. Anyone visited there?

2 same nickname here.

This afternoon went there. Notice that the 2 Show house nothing changes. After talking to the ngp sales. Realized that they already make the modifications on unit 104. Lower partition stairs case reduce 1 step, hence make it lower. On top partition’ they add 1 additional triangle level. A bit weird but overall it add the space. The steps also increase by 2 inches depth.
I was told this info was convey to many people who visited earlier but to my dismay is no one reported this thus far. Only negative comments given by so call busybody.
Other thing unchanged. Master room air duct also unchanged. Balcony also unchanged.
And it is again confirm that the tiles at car porsch will cover till gate.

For those interested abt the changes’ please visit the still in progress unit 104. That is 3rd unit to the left from the show house.

My mistake. 4th unit to the left from corner show house

@thor

thanks for the clarification and update!

I am confused now. Feeling like watching 007 movie.

@Serene Lim

For clarification, you can always call Jessica(works for developer) @ 04-5078773 and it’s up to you to judge and filter the comments posted here.
I believe, there won’t be much changes on the two completed show units(102 and 103) since they are built. But from what @thor has mentioned, you can refer to unit in-progress(104 or 105 i am not sure) to check if there’s any changes.

P/s: Just some sharing, this is also the 1st time I am buying a property. If you feel OK when you visited the show house, then just go with your feeling. Some issues might appear to be concerns for other people, but not necessary to you. All the issues that we brought up here are meant to make this residence a perfect place to live in. So don’t worry, and remember that you are not alone!

Just went to site & checked on unit 104 & 105, the step already change to 255mm, the clear height also got improvement. But still worry about the clear height provided because this 2 unit’s finished work still not done yet. Assume the tiling on staircase is 25mm & beam plastering is 25mm, i think human with 1.8m height still facing clear height problem. What i suggest is asked the engineer & developer to reduce the beam size from 600mm to 450mm. With add. 150mm height, the clear height will be very comfortable.

buy and do what u think is right. good luck

I am agree with engineer. The narrow staircase is solved. Glad to see that. However, I still concern about the beam. The developer told me that they will try to improve the beam furthermore. Looking forward for this.

Hi All,

We (our group) welcome all your comments and suggestions but please don’t launch any personal attacks on anyone, including NGP or Developer.

All our complaints / comments are based on facts and supported by evidence as well.

I personally fully agree with ‘engineer’ that we need bigger clearance on the beam.

Again, for those who wish to join our group, please send your email to us at

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

your personal info (P&C) will be totally protected.

Thanks

@engineer
Hi Engineer

Can you please send email to pegasusresidence@gmail.com?

We need your suggestion.

I would like to thank those who send their comments to us via emails, especially one most important email sent to me this morning, although I can’t mention his name here but I truly thankful to his comments/ suggestion to move things forward.

One day, when all these issues are fully settle, we should get together and have some dinners / beers.

Keep it up!

@Buyer

Buyer, I don’t mean to launch personal attack but I just speak out for the benefits of all the purchasers only.

My hobby is to point out the weak points of all the property, not just NGP nia. I actually also gave my comments to other property also, but honestly speaking Pegasus Residence is by far the worse design I ever come across and that’s why I beh tahan liao and must write something here lah.

now the staircase step improved a bit liao, looking forward to see improvement on the beam, the glass at the balcony and also the air duct too.

also, cable bo underground meh? anyone notice it?

I went there yesterday and I informed the NGP sales person about the beam issue, he agreed with me and also he admits to me that it was the designer error.

when I asked him what about the air duct in the masterbed room?

He smile nia…I think he also pai sei to comment anything now.

He told me, NGP and the developer already f*** the designer / architect kaw-kaw and looking for solution now.

However, its hard to trust the sales man anymore.

why everyone so diam now?

now they are building the foundation… anyone have the design update?

Did u guys saw the yesterday newspaper? NGP licences not valid? Kena tarik? I saw it on Kwang Ming newspaper

URL link for the news?

From ngp FB, they are still selling…

from yesterday newspaper. Saying licence is belong to Landmark something …not NGP . Aiya u all guys go look for the paper lah. I’m not the buyer for this project just “kepo” here after saw this smalll advertisment in paper.
Maybe Admin and do a liiter work to find out more and publish here.

The developer feedback that they will provide updates on the beam improvement by Wednesday, 26 Feb. Let us hear their action plan first. I can feel the sincere that they are working on it. So, let us wait till tomorrow and see what action plan they propose to do.

the problem is NGP. they just wanted to sell and run.

@thor

hi Thor

May I know your plot number? or, can you please send it to this email

pegasusresidence@gmail.com

thank you.

Anyone has any update of the changes now?

Next week I will go to the site for latest information. After viewing the site, I will share the news.

@abc
Hi ABC, sorry i ain’t really active here..yea realized that as well. i guess i will cover it with fiber glass. i really love brightly lit houses.

Anyone has update info for the beam design? I thought the developer / NGP already promised to make the changes?

they say already do some changes. but i suggest better see it on site

i think all the purchasers already accepting money from NGP and keep diam diam now…

Ugly design still ugly design, no matter how much money NGP pays to keep their mouth shut!

Haaa…Rabbit hole for Pegasus residence.