Alyssa @ Machang Bubok
Alyssa, a residential development by TF Land within Machang Bubok township. Comprises 36 units of 2-storey terrace houses with two different layout design. It is 15 minutes away from Bukit Mertajam town and 10 minutes drive to Kulim.
Property Project : Alyssa
Location : Machang Bubok, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Terrace
Land Area: 20 ft. x 60 ft. onwards
Built-up Area: 20 ft. x 40 ft. onwards
Tenure : Freehold
Developer : TF Land
Contact No: 04-551 2635
Indicative Price: RM 360,000 onwards
Any comment for this project?
RM360K++ for Machang Bubok location is expensive.
Mainland landed prop , BU 20×40 ? so short ?
Tropicale Residency & Hill Park which beside Machang Bubok already cost >400K for terrace house….
machang bubok is quite far away from everything, but it is good for those working in Kulim or BM
Gated or non gated?
Macam bubuk… lots of illegal dirty factory over here deep inside the jungle.
How about showhouse?
Garnier … Izzit the environment pollutted?
loc no good
Any once invest on this property..? PLs share.
i don think it is good for investment… unless it is real long term investment.
i have booked this place..waiting to sign SnP..well for me i can say this location and price is very much affordable. Have compared other builds of theirs Bambusa and Garden quality looks good, maybe they are building limited units not high density.(based on my points) Any other buyers out there? share please.
@D
how about the security in this area?
123 -tell me a place which is very safe this days..even with gated there been reported cases..i believe this is non-gated..surrounding is lively during day n night as there is a supermarket..after midnight not sure my friend who is staying that area mentioned so far ok. but a lot of shop houses are opened that area…and after all new houses completed and tenanted it may look more lively i guess. this ares will be cooling i guess surrounded by hills. D-is there any showhouse for now?
price is expected increase aft cny by developer.
look 4 garden residences a dssd by same developer in machang bubok u can view their show house there.its a new project 2 if wanna chck their quality.so far there is no show house for dst alyssa yet.
I afraid this land will has termite problem.
Y say so???
@Will
when this project to be completed? how many units still available?
@D
what is the price you bought? already sign S&P?
@D
We r neighbour…
Bought 1 unit of A1 type. Well, this is the potential residential area as the surrounding area is under developing currently.
what is the price range there ?? any special offer available?
Garnier and ABC
i hv live there for years, and i can’t really agree with Garnier’s statement.
What is the price there now? Still got available unit?
@Shinji
when this project to be completed?
@NC
How much you bought? how many units still available?
@Shinji
good Shinji..see you soon 😀
Any takers on the intermediate corner houses? @shinji urs? or @NC
This place is too far…. better invest on island properties
@Eddy, RM360K is for type A (20 X 40) and RM388K is for type A1 (20 X 45). Anyhow, not sure the latest price now. You may contact with the TF land sales.
@D, I also wanna buy the intermediate corner house but sold out already, only left intermediate lot.
@ Felixia, time can proof, may have unpredictable surprises:)
@NC, yes intermediate taken long ago by early birds.
@ Felixia Lam island property very expensive cant afford liao lol
A good place good location and value for money
People got confused. Mention Machang Bubok, they think it is Kampong Machang Bubok. Actually it is Bandar Machang Bubuk. A different locality with all the required infrastructure e.g schools, restuarants, supermarket, mechanic and tyre shops, clinics, furniture shops stc. There is no air pollution as there is no factories there. Security is quite ok as I often see police cars and motorcycles patrolling the area with Rela members. There are about 8 units left. 5 units from A1 type 20 by 68 feet, built up area 20 by 45 feet and 3 units from A type 20 by 60 feet, built up area 20 by 40 feet. You can view the house now as it is about half completed and the show house will be up in 3 months. When it links with the nearly housing projects like the Tropicale residency, Hilltop residency, Garden residency, Bambusa residency and Alyssa residency, it will be like the Petaling Jaya of Bukit Mertajam. See to believe.
There is also a bus service by Rapid bus company going in to Taman Machang Buibok. For those avid mountain climbers there is the Cherok Tokun Mountain nearby (about five to 10 minutes) where the air is fresh and cool like the Cameron Highlands especially when you go higher up. Soon I anticipate, maybe Banks will open up branches there in the long term.
There is no question of termites or white ants as the roof is made of metal trusses and window and door frames made of steel. There is no oil palm estate except the new village. Even if the termites were to bite the steel , its teeth will break! There is no houses in front so you can park the car in front of the house without interruption from the neighbors. The small piece of land in front is government reserve land for roads. It is a complete township, they even have Pharmacy, music shop, and even flower shop too.
Staying in a gated and guarded community is like paying house rent for the rest of your lives. You spent such a huge and colossal sum of money to purchase a house but you pay maintenance like paying house rent. You pay for swimming pool maintenance, guards etc. Nothing is free. At first the swimming pool is crystal clear and blue like the morning dew, after a few years it will be polluted and if not treated with chlorine you will get skin disease and itchiness. There are cases when children got drown in the swimming pool when the parents go to work. You cant have life guard serving there 24 hours. You see the risk? The most important thing in buying a property, it should be relatively free from gangsters, mobs, and foreigners. It should not be too isolated as it might predispose to rape, extortionists and robbers.
Lastly, consider yourself lucky if you have good neighbors. Good neighbors is a blessing, like a gift from heaven. Bad neighbors is a ruin. ” Bless this house oh Lord we pray, keep it safe by night and day”.
@whkh, as you mentioned above that “The small piece of land in front is government reserve land for roads.” Is this land behind the house or in front the house? You sound like developer…r u?
Can i know the left 5 units of type 20*45 is all facing the school or facing the kampung house?
The government land is in front of the house. A long stretch right up to Bambuza. Behind is a commercial shop house and shopping complex belonging to TF land. I am not a developer but I have done extensive research and inquiry. I was cheated before in an abandoned housing project before, hence I am extra careful and I had done extensive reading in foong shui and quality of the houses. Once bitten twice shy.
You have to choose the house wisely as some is undulating meaning the land is not even with the road. You have to do your homework first by visiting the site before you book. Dont take my word for granted. Go in the house and inspect thoroughly… happy with it? You buy… if not just dont think about it anymore and search for something else. Some is facing the school and some is facing the new village.
Now, for the Bambuza residency they start planting Bamboo as their fencing in front of the house which is so green and pleasing to the eye. For Alyssa, how are they going to get Alyssa trees or flowers to plant in front as a fencing? I am perplexed.
The progress is very fast, can see most of the roof are completed
Whkh, I’m planning to take the A1 type which will only complete in 2015(TF office staff said so). Any comment on that one? I’m not able to get in and take a look now.
Whkh, I’m planning to take the A1 type which will only complete in 2015(TF office staff said so). Any comment on that one? I’m not able to get in and take a look now. By the way, this is my first house and I’m kinda blur about what to look.
@Kazuya, how many unit left for your selection? I’m observing that this project development is progressing fast.
Kazuya, get the lot number from the developer and request permission to choose the said house and inspect. The A1 design is impressive. Choose wisely..make sure the road is not higher than the house. At the rate they are going i won’t be surprise it will be ready in 2014.
seems the project can be done by this year end.. cheers neighbours…
anyone know still got how many units left and what is the price now?
what is the price@Kazuya
I think there are 4 units left if I am not mistaken. 2 units type A and 2 units type A1. About the price I am not too sure.
The advantage of A1 house is that, the kitchen is big and spacious, large family area upstairs and the bathroom cum toilet is slightly or marginally bigger than type A. The hall cum dining area is spacious that you have the luxury to walk around. The disadvantage of type A is that you see through the toilet through the front door and the room downstairs is L shaped making it waste of space and the small kitchen. The plus side of type A is that you have king size hall and a king size master bed room upstairs but no family area. I guess there are plus and minuses and you cant have the best of everything.
The house is almost complete,for BM area ,the price is the most cheaper.most if the developer now are not intended to build double stories house,if yes,the price also dam high.
Who will become my neighbor ???
The reason I am buying Alyssa it is that it is the best price that I could afford and I want to stay there. Ideally, I prefer double storey terrace house with the land area of 22 feet by 75 feet with a built up area of at least 47 feet but hard to get such houses with a cheap price. Its even harder to get a perfect house where you don’t need repair. You will notice there are no kitchen tiles for the wall and when you move in, all costs money. In my opinion, I hope all are genuine house buyers meaning you want to stay there and not speculators as I feel there could be overheating and when the bubble burst there could be a slide of 30 per cent in the price. I could be wrong but what goes up must come down and vice versa, coupled with rising interest rate and difficulty of obtaining a bank loan, the speculators will be badly hit.
The quality of TF land houses is not bad. We have to give credit whenever it is due. From what I observed the car porch was reinforced with concrete and thick iron mesh which is at least 6 inches thick with cement imprint and I am impressed. Another thing worth commenting was the toilet bowl is by Johnson Suizze a famous brand with quality ceramics which will last a long time. They are quite stringent on quality as they check for cracks and defects and repaired it straight away.
For those staying in Alyssa, you can do your basic marketing at the Bubok village market about 300 meters by short cut access road. Early in the morning there are fresh meat, fish plus lots of food, cakes, fruits and vegetables. Piping hot Nasi lemak is 1 ringgit (other place one dollar and 20 cents) coffee is 1 ringgit, a simple mixed rice RM3.50 quite reasonable. In the morning you can see the place bustling with activities with its laid back lifestyle and rustic settings. You can see the old folks sitting in the corner of the coffee shop chatting away over a cup of tea or coffee. The air is fresh in the morning as there are no factories there except a small towel factory which is far away.
From time to time, I am happy to see the Police doing a good job of beat duty by patrol car or motorcycles sometimes with RELA members as crime prevention measures. Hats off to the police of Bukit Mertajam. There is a Chinese school in front of Alyssa and in a short distance away is the is the Sekolah Menengah Machang Bubok lower and upper secondary schools. At present, there is no bank in the vicinity of Machang Bubok. I think the first bank to open in Machang Bubok is going to make money as it caters for thousands of people from the various housing estates nearby. (Hillside residence, Tropicale Residency, Machang Bubok New village, Garden residency, Bandar Machang Bubok, Taman Sejahtera surrounding areas etc.
Hi whkh, I’m one of the buyer…anyhow, how u get in to see the house progress as the place is almost fencing up and road is blocked. Anyhow, from this blog forum, i can see you provide a lot of positive comments & info on this Alyssa project….hahaha…think that you’re developer more than buyer… anyhow, thanks for sharing:)
Hi whkh, i’m quite worry the development at behind of house. Last time TF land said will build 2/3 storey shop lots, not sure how they utilize the land behind and when will the development commence. I quite worry when any development carrying on at behind will impact or affect the house structure. As i noticed that the development at Hill park there got cause the crack issue on wall & car poarch at some house at Taman seri Sejahtera. This is quite serious case.
The reason the place is fenced up is for safety and security reasons and also to prevent theft of building materials and “besi buruk” They said that unauthorized entry is prohibited as they don’t want people to get hurt if stones or bricks or objects fall on the head causing serious injuries. That means enter at your own risk. There is no way you can get in unless you climb over the fence or go to the “Kong Si Kong “(lalang and bush area) muddy road or path leading to the workers squatters. The path is muddy with rain water so your shoes will be soiled with mud or red earth. Thread carefully for nails and mud. Or else get permission to see the house as by now you would have paid half of the price of the house. There is one thing I don’t like is that there are hairline cracks at the back of the house (the plastering) due to sun and rain. Inside was OK.
Don’t worry what is behind you. Worry what is in front of you and surrounding you. I am not a civil engineer or a structural engineer to give you expert advice but I am a layman. To the best of my knowledge a 2 or 3 stoney building does not require very deep piling but it must have good foundation. They are not building flats or high rise building or condominium where rigorous and deep piling works should be done. Normally cracks should not occur if the house is built on a firm ground unless the land is built on a swampy land or refilled land. Cracks are most likely to occur on reclaimed land or swampy land when it is constantly soaked with sea or rain water and the land sinks. If cracks do occur they have to make good to rectify the fault.
For those who had bought the Type A house, they will enjoy the Machang Bubok mountain view. The first 8 rows of type A will have a scenic mountain view at a distance if they were to stand at the balcony, a sight to behold. A thing of beauty is a joy forever. Whereas others, it is partially blocked by roof top or durian trees. But then the trees provide shade, filter for dust and oxygen for fresh air. Something green is pleasing to the eye instead of concrete jungle. If they cannot find Alyssa flowers to plant, then maybe big red hibiscus flowers as fencing will do. And if the durian were to drop on the roadside then it is finders keepers. It is not stealing. So far they haven’t fix tiles on the balcony yet and according to plan I think there is tiles on the balcony if I am not mistaken.
So far, I had written and shared my thoughts on the positive aspects of Alyssa but I would not want to divulge the negative aspects of the house as I do not want to hurt the feelings of the house buyers or anyone for that matter. It is up to you to do the exploration and homework with keen sense of observation. Words spoken cannot be retracted, it is deciphered, coded and delivered. Moreover, it would not benefit me in any way to badmouth someone or commenting negatively when you already had purchased the said house. All I want is peace, happiness (which is an expensive word nowadays) good surroundings, good neighbors, a good home (you can buy a house but it is not necessarily a home) good health and at peace with nature. Cheerio!
Hi whkh, which type u bought? A1 or A? Yours one is in front of school or in front of village? Still got any units left? Not sure majority buyer is chinese or they are minority from malay/indian. Furthermore, hibiscus flower seems very hard to plant for and in my opinion that not suitable as fencing plant…wondering…
I bought Type A1 in front of the village for the spaciousness of the kitchen which is 2 times the size of Type A kitchen. A1 have a family area upstairs like a hall, type A do not have such luxury. Toilet is slightly larger, balcony is also slightly larger, the car porch is longer by 3 feet. The ones in front of new village is on firmer ground and higher than the others thus level with the drain. and car porch. Some place the road may be higher than the house as the road is slightly sloping downwards. Choose wisely. Oh hibiscus is very easy to plant once it blooms it has continuous flowers, some as large as a small plate, simply beautiful especially the bright red ones.
Good neighbors is a blessing. I doesn’t matter if your neighbor is Chinese, Malay, Indian or Benggali as long as they are good and considerate neighbors. It doesn’t matter if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mouse. Have a nice day. Cheerio!
So far so good, not bad…… but I am disappointed that there are no tiles in the balcony. If you look at the model house in the office, there are tiles in the balcony for the A1 type. Tiles are not only aesthetically pleasant to look at but prevent water from seeping through the porch and might affect the electrical wiring’s in due course through seepage and wear and tear over the years. To overcome this, they put water glue in lieu of tiles maybe be to save costs. Although TF land double storey house is the cheapest in town they should not compromise this with just a glue. I would appreciate and thankfully grateful if TF land reciprocate this kind gesture and goodwill by fixing the tiles. By the way, this is the second house I bought from TF land. The first was a single storey.
Why no tiles in balcony?!! standard double storey house should have included tiles on balcony…Furthermore, the price for this project is not cheap as this is machang bubok area not alma area…to me the price consider high already…really disappointed heard that no tiles on balcony:(
According to the plan, they should have balcony tiles and not to cut costs. This is a RM388,000 double storey house not a RM159,000 double storey house in Machang Bubok, 10 years ago. It is our life’s saving to purchase a dream house like that. Another thing, I noticed through my observation, they are repairing the beam at the staircase which is low almost touching the head, if you are short, then no problem. But if you are tall, and forget something upstairs to get the keys or something, and start running up or go downstairs in a hurry, you might smash your head against the wall or or hit the the forehead against the beam. In other words, don’t forget to “arigato” or bow down your head when you reach the staircase. When the beam is compromised and repaired, I don’t know if it will be structurally strong. Thank god they are repairing it straight away for all the houses. This is good on the part of the developer for quality control and added safety measures. Other than that the house is beautiful. To be fair, I am generous in giving credit whenever it is due but I will call a spade is a spade, you can call it by any other name, it is not a spoon.
that’s means the ceiling is low? If the case as you mentioned above, it’s quite serious which the general structure is not well planned…Why TF land not build as per plan? If that case, means developer cheat to buyer because according the plan should have the tiles on balcony! Pay a lot of money to buy a home sweet home but feeling not get equivalent what i have pay for!
Another 1 case which i have observed before that developer not using the red bricks for the wall between 2 individual unit…because the standard house should have the red bricks which even the tambun indah pearl impian double storey also using the red brick for the segregation wall…i have concern on this…
wall between 2 units (4 hours fire rated party wall) must use red brick to built. This is insist by Bomba department, if they doesn’t do it you can take photo & force developer to change it. Architect & developer had to follow the building law to built a house & not just cut building cost & cheating.
No no.. all the ceiling is adequately high except the beam supporting it should be high and not low especially in the staircase area. If the beam is adjusted properly with steel rod and concrete then there should not be a problem. Another thing is the fan hook in the hall is thin it should be thicker to stand the weight of a big fan. The thing that makes me not happy is that, there are no tiles in the balcony and they use water glue gum as a substitute for the tiles. I feel short changed. The kitchen no tiles is already bad enough but balcony also no tiles is ridiculous, (exposure to rain and sunshine) they want to cut corners and save money or what? The balcony is also an ideal place to hang and dry clothes. On the whole the house is quite okay…. impressive except for some minor glitches and no tiles for balcony. I guess you cant have the cake and eat it as well. But then by providing better facilities it reflects the good image of the company. In fact I had recommended some people to buy the house. Please lah… don’t cut corners to save money and let us suffer.
If you noticed the front main door is made of soft wood….but that is okay because when it is painted it will look high class and nobody will know what type of soft wood. But to add insult to injury some of the wood is joined together with another soft wood by riveting it together. That means it is joined wood not whole piece of wood so it is mixed wood. The door to the bedroom if you are unlucky …you get a big black patch of plywood. right across ..so unsightly but then again when it is painted it will look high class and glossy. It is mixed…… some good and some no good. if you are lucky you get all nice plywood with nice colour.
Hi whkh, do you alert the red bricks issue between 2 units which I highlight above? Why u mentioned no tiles in kitchen, there should have tiles on kitchen right?
Hi whkh, how u get in to view your unit? Felt that disappointed already when u mentioned no tile in balcony…balcony is just the small portion, wonder how can TF land save money by not providing the tiles…so selfish developer… the price is quoted high for this project already in machang bubok area…don’t they already likes vampire who consumed out bloody money!!! to be honest, this is my 1st house, but have locks me for rest of my life with the home loan commitment…how can developer treat us this way…we pay for chicken by get egg only in the ends…
To me red bricks white bricks is the same…it is still cement bricks (cement and sand) not the clay type. It is cement colour. What I want most is the tiles to be fixed in the balcony. With that kind of price they should provide the tiles for the balcony. What is the use of the sample show house? if it is only for beauty and decorative purpose and not functional and short changed buyers. If it is stipulated in the agreement they have to do it. Kitchen tiles I am not sure but the model in the office shows tiles fixed at the balcony. If the company really takes care of its reputation and good will they should compromise. They should also understand that most house buyers make a life time commitment to buy a house and purchasers expect reasonable standards and quality meaning value for money. We are not asking something extra of the ordinary but according to model laid out for purchasers to view the actual house.
Wow,i can see my many neighbors here already… n positive & negative comments but as far my info talking to tf land they say kitchen have tiles,but balcony nvr confirmed guess we all must demand for it not much gonna cost them right?
@whkh hats off to u man… 😀
@D, are you sure they are giving tiles to the kitchen? I don’t think so…. fat hope! ….if they cannot afford to give tiles to the balcony which is smaller surface area than the kitchen, what makes you think they will do so. Is your information correct or is it just a lip service from them.
@NC, I know you are disappointed… no kitchen tiles and no balcony tiles. You are not alone , most of us are . No wonder they fenced up the whole area as they don’t want people to see, may be people not satisfied ..will complain this and that. Honestly, I don’t know what is going on. I went to pearl city Tambun Indah… they don’t stop you from seeing the house. In fact they are proud to let you see their finish product as a testament to their quality> it is sort of indirect advertisement to spread the good word around so that buyers will flock to the area…to see in order to believe. If you have what it takes for quality products, just flaunt it. I wanted to buy the 22 feet by 75 feet double storey terrace but was quickly sold out. The way you put it, I know you want something value for money and that something you paid for is worth it, as it is painful to pay monthly installment for the good part of your life.
Kitchen should have tiles as what TF committed as per specification. If not, we can make complaints officially to specific government sector…
@ NC, I think we are mistaken. All the kitchen have floor tiles. I saw it myself, but no kitchen wall tiles. Wall tiles meaning when you cook you can wipe off the oil from the tiles, so it’s easier to keep it clean. In the balcony, I don’t see any floor tiles. It was just cement screed. By the way they already fixed tempered glass in the balcony in some of the houses.
In other property developer what you see in the model houses is what you get. In TF land model house (you can see in the office) you can see there is floor tiles on the balcony very clearly. If you don’t want to give tiles to the purchaser why put it there? Is it not functional and only for decorative purposes?
The ceiling in the staircase was repaired. It looks well done . What I am worried is, 1 foot of the beam was removed and pushed upwards into the master bed room. 2 feet of the base of the master bedroom wall was removed and repaired. Is it structurally strong when part of the concrete beam is removed? That means part of the weight of the beam is supported by the Master bedroom wall. What if it starts to give way after the years? We have heard in the papers about scaffolding collapse, ceiling collapse, highway overhead bridge collapse, roof collapse and stadium roof collapse etc. Can anybody enlightened me to allay my fears and anxiety in this issue? As a layman, I might be wrong, but this problem could not happen if the ceiling is pushed up higher or the design of the beam constructed in such a way that it doesn’t interfere with the staircase.
@whkh, how can you explained in so details fo the measurement & structure before & after? Aren’t you monitor the daily progress at the site? Heard you mentioned as stated above seems like the structuring is not well planned for TF Land property and amending after build which I’m starting wondering on this project… How can TF land simply do such amendment on structuring, not professional way at all as a property developer!!! Am i starting regret of my decision made to purchase the unit which is not worth or equavalent for what i have pay RM388k!!! in machang bubok area!!!??? Furthermore, no tiles at balcony!!! ridiculous!!! many of the developer like asas dunia, tambun indah…nowadays the double storey is build in with the quality tiles at balcony…. I’m complaining for what we should have as a buyers!!! In addition, how come they can build the house lower than the land area for the 1st 16 lots, it’s so ugly and area might prone to water retention or flooding…i’m quite wonder do others buyers noticed on this before selected these units…For me, this is absolutely not acceptable!!!
Before booking, should have ronda-ronda the houses/shops quality and appearance at Taman Machang Bubok, phase 1,2,3,4 all built by same developer beginning 16-17 years ago started from phase 1 (behind Wonderful supermarket and Nasi Kandar restaurant).
When come to phase 2, they changed their company name to Team Four Sdn Bhd for obvious reason. They did cause a lot of dissapointment and anger before in past phases.
They will build houses based on SnP specs (which is very loose and general in Msia), not model house, show house, brochures. However, nowadays, most developers will build according to show house bare unit, if not, they are definately short-changed the buyers. Should complain to them at their office to mgmt level as united buyers.
@ nc, how do I know in detail? A good question… I was a cadet before in school and I am used to compass reading and jungle training that honed my sharp sense of observation and acumen in finest detail. Actually they should level the land first before building the land and filled earth when necessary and not the other way round ..build the house first then start leveling the land. If they had spend money filling the undulating areas, the land and the house will be at equilibrium meaning the same level as in Bambuza. Leveling the land costs money , maybe they are on tight budget?
In facts, i have high concern for these lots which is build lower than ground level whereby how we open the front gate???!!! Must unable open out, have to open in but we must have cars inside the car poarch already, how to open in??? Moreover, sliding gate also not workable as gate need to have a enough flat space to slide open…Does TF Land geniusly think on this or am I get wrong on TF land any idea to open the front gate!!!! Hi, any Alyssa owner here, i noticed me & whkh only??? Others owner have concern???
@NC, how do you know that the first 16 lots , the house is lower than the land? Actually it is true. If you look carefully, in certain parts, the drain is higher than the level of the house so literally speaking, it has the “floating longkang” (drain) . If they filled the earth to the brim according to the level of the drain then the house appears to have “sunken” On the other hand, if they level it approximately to the level of the house, then there is a gentle slope and when you have torrential rain during monsoon season that area might have flash flood or at most some water might enter the porch as there is no iron grill or water trap in the concrete slab. But not to worry as they are building a retention pond to trap flood waters.
Suggestion: Complain to Mr Tan Chew Hua lah, their executive director, face to face at their main office as united buyers. Probably, it is his signature in the SnP on behalf of developer, (check that out), so he should be knowing this project progress well.
I don’t think complain in this forum can help anything but good sharing to others.
HI All, I can’t find any topic on Garden Residency by TL land so wonder if there is the good location for own stay?
The Garden residency was built on mountain land. It took about one year to level the land so it was built on a firm ground. How do I know? I am staying next to it. I saw lorry loads and lorry loads of red earth removed. It is a good residential area except for the stiff and high price tag.
whkh, haha you really well noticed the surrounding of machang bubok area. I have go to take a look on Alyssa, not sure will TF level the land as can see that the 1st row of the house is under the road or ground which the corner lot can see obviously. Heard that many area in Alma & simpang ampat is flood due to heavy rain… Not sure Machang bubok is flooding area?
The house is not bad but the quality is average. They are stingy giving tiles to the balcony. They try to cut cost as much as possible. The more I see the house, the more I like it. The car porch is not flat, it has a gentle slope which makes it difficult to close the gate inwards. Be sure to pull the hand brake as it might roll backwards, dangerous for children. So far, there is no flood in Machang Bubok as the land is high but may have flash flood about 6 inches in the main road for few minutes due to no proper holes or outlet to the drain. The drain is deep but they should make more holes or pipes to drain excess water.
whkh, did you saw the road which link between alma & machang bubok, found that the GTM occupied the road space a lot and made this key road become smaller…In my opinion, the is the key road to cause the arisen of machang bubok area as many ppl in machang bubok will use the road access to tesco, alma pasar and future jusco…wonder why no one developer, as well as TF land to widen and build up the road?
I know the road is narrow and now the traffic is heavy and I do not know why the company could not sacrifice some land for the road to make it wider. I am not in a position to give an answer to that. Perhaps the town council or the municipality of SPT or the relevant authorities can offer some help in this issue.
hi whkh, thx for info sound like you’re staying at tmn machang bubuk ph3d?
I like the garden residency design but price is kind of high.
btw, for Alyssa, understand from SA they are currently working to bring in mini market (like wonderful) into their commercial project located behind this Alyssa. So, wonder if it will eventually turn into abandon shop lots?
Shop lots and residential houses depends on supply and demand. Many shop lots means the rent wont be so high as people can choose which lots they want. Moreover, depends on what business you want to do. With economy not so good, people have less to spend and they try to get cheap things and stretch their ringgit. Middle income group trying to get mostly double storey houses but TF land is not building it. I think there will be a glut of shop lots and it will be slow to move in. In times like this…. just think, what business you are going to do?
@ BM Guys , by right, GTM should consider widening the road to make easy access to Tropicale residency as it is their main entrance. Formerly, the road linking Alma and Machang Bubok is too quiet, dark, narrow, lonely, deserted, no traffic and dangerous at night. I heard many got robbed by thugs form outside not from Machang Bubok. Their modus operandi is to wait for you up the hill when you travel alone at night and extort and robbed you. (pau looi, ahh…) But now… no more because of heavy usage of roads, almost every minite got vehicles go up and down.
I’m not doing business but just concern that the shop lot/commercial units may impact this Alyssa project as I visited the site and interested on this project.
Alyssa was built on a strategic area in the heart of Bandar Machang Bubok. Where can you find new double storey terrace house with that kind of price , good location and so near to Bukit Mertajam town and to Kulim. All the infrastructure are there, its almost a complete township, no pollution, no flood, no factories and good environment. Go and see Alyssa, it’s beautiful . The only thing they never level the land properly so some house are high and some are low. The ceiling height should be preferably be 12 feet high for good ventilation. The fan hook is lousy very thin iron rod, what if the fan were to drop on the head after constant use? Can it stand the weight of a heavy fan? They try to save costs and also never give tiles for the balcony.
whkh, is the ceiling high or low? Do you know how many feet height of the ceiling. For the fan hook, will it danger to us? Very concern on this…
The ceiling is adequately high ( I didn’t measure the height) but after the plaster of the ceiling to hide the sewage pipes it is shorter by about 9 inches or one foot. Still, it is o.k. not too bad. The only thing the ceiling hook is so thin, some are so tiny, some are a bit long , some are too short, some are medium in thickness but mostly thin fan hook embedded in the plaster. There is no uniformity in thickness. I am worried about the weight of some ceiling fans especially the heavy ones. Don’t count on me, go make a visit… see to believe. Then, you can comment, whether true or not. If the fan hook is thin or rusty and the fan runs on high oscillation or high speed what will happen? any engineers here?
Hi whkh, I’m not able to attend the site when visit last time. So, wonder how you manage to get in? btw, you mentioned the there are 16 unit of houses are below the road level, so do you mind to share on the plot number? thx
If you want to know the plot number ask the developer, TF land. Moreover, it is unethical and not polite to divulge information as the buyers may get heartache, pain and maybe heart attack if they know their house is “sunken” AS THEY HAD ALREADY PURCHASED THE UNIT. People will say busy body (kay Poh Chee in Chinese). You have to find out yourself.
I feel something is not right. I might be wrong but all car porch should be flat or horizontal and not sloping towards the iron gate. You cannot open the gate inwards as the gate will get stuck in the cement at an angle of 30 to 45 degrees. So how to drive the car in? To make matters worse if your house is lower than the road you cannot open the gate outwards as it will get stuck at angle of 45 degrees. That means you cannot open the gate inwards as well as out wards unless you use a sliding gate. Look at Bambooza and Garden residency, it is all flat. Even Rumah Murah or single storey house the car porch is flat not sloping. This is the first taman in Penang with a sloping car porch if I am not mistaken. If you don’t pull the hand brake properly the car will slide and bang the gate or children playing behind the car.
If you observed properly, the circuit breaker plastic console box is situated and protruding just at the back of the wooden main door. If you accidentally open the door more than 90 degrees, let us say, 120 degrees to fully extend the door to bring in furniture, you will bang the plastic circuit breaker box to pieces if you are not aware. It will be a grand slam if children play with the door. That means you cannot open the door properly. Assuming, you want to do conceal wiring for the circuit breaker (MEM- console box made of steel) you cannot do it also because the beam of the front door runs from top to bottom. You dig or meddle with the beam as you will collapse the front door as it is the support(beam) to the front door. As an experienced developer, how come they can have oversight in these safety issues.
The storeroom is well done with tiles inside. However, the store room under the staircase should have the door facing outwards and not inwards as it is difficult to go in and out . When you push the door inwards you loose a space of 2 to 3 feet and difficult to take out your things.
Hi everybody, uncles and aunties, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I am sure you have seen the end product of Alyssa. Very impressive from the outside. In comparison from type A and type A1, type A is more beautiful, it is built on level and solid ground, looks more classy, more articulate in design, elegant, impressive, people will think it is more expensive than type A1. The king size master bedroom even have a sliding door. Whereas, Type A1, is simple design, nothing to shout about but the spaciousness inside is noticeably in the kitchen, dining, extra power points in the kitchen area, family area upstairs and bigger balcony, and slightly or marginally bigger toilets and slightly bigger car porch. These are all due to extra 8 feet of land that makes the difference. Do make a visit, enjoy! Have a nice day…..Cheerio!
I have concern on the main road link between Alma & machang bubok, saw that Tropicale Residency build their own main road for own use internally and made the main road link between this 2 areas become smaller and narrow. It seems that no anyone developer want to build this main road, in facts this link road is busy and heavy traffic now, why no one to widen & build this road properly…disappointed.
What to do…we are just layman and ordinary people. If there is a fatal accident involving lorries or trailers, then everybody will start pointing fingers, push the responsibilities away and blame each other. It looks like the road link leading to Alma and Machang Bubok is nearer to Tropicale Residency and Hill Park residency and adjacent to Taman Machang Bubok.
HI All,
Does anyone know if there is any chicken frame nearby? especially area that is opposite to SM Machang Bubuk?
That is the chicken depot or the chicken storehouse where chicken is kept there in cages and then re-exported to somewhere else or perhaps to the market. I do not know whose the owner and it s been there for some time. It is a transit point to be exported else where.
Last week, I received a letter from the developer asking for payment stating that the internal and external finishing s of the said house had been completed. So I went there to ascertain if its true. It was not completed or shall I say three quarter completed. The paint work is not completed you can see the raw cement, iron door and stair case railings not painted, all room doors not painted, front and back door not painted yet, pipes, joiners and elbow joints and plumbing not done yet including concrete slab to the back door.. I also wonder if the plastic circuit breaker placed behind the door passed the safety regulations. It should be placed above the door or somewhere else. I wonder the architect who certify that the finishing’ s had been completed really checked the house? If so, why many things not done? Almost completed is not the same as completed. To be fair, it is the duty of care of the purchaser to make payments at the time and manner aforesaid. At the same time the developer had the duty of care to ensure that work is really completed before issuing a certificate of completion of each phase. How do you define the word “complete”?
Aiyah, all these while, architects and developers are frens lah. Even, the date in the architect certificate that attached to the progressive payment letter can be suspicious or dubious sometimes. Don’t forget, their other friends are the lawyers and bankers lah, whom will help to quickly release the money lah. Only buyers are considered unfriendly, picky, troublesome lah.
BTW, in all the past and current practise that I know of (due to loophole in SnP due to poor defination, i think) is that stage where internal and external finishings are ready is just refering to the wall plastering, not including (don’t know why) painting and doors painting.
“@whkh ”
WTF!!!! What is the developer name ? Why so louzy ones ? Then beta you have to careful…Check everything properly especially what quoted in the brochure for the materials build…Even the spacing of the housing after completed ! If he said got 20x60sqft2…Meke sure it has done the built-up properly! Else, sue them!
@whkh
@whkh,
seem like you are very familiar with that location. So, this chicken storehouse is hidden behind the forest that is opposite to SK Machang Bubok right?
Do you think flies & chicken farm smell will be a issue to both Allysa & Garden Residency?
Flies… I am not too sure because they don’t rear the chicken there except use it as a depot or a store house to store chicken in cages. Those whose house is facing the chicken depot will smell the pong of chicken shit. On the whole the air is fresh there. A quiet locality except for the occasional school bell for those facing the school. In my opinion, the best location for Alyssa is the ones facing the Machang Bubok village. Reason: 1) The house is built on a level ground, therefore the road and the house is in equilibrium. 2) From the balcony, you can see beautiful scenic Machang Bubok mountain view. Comparing Bambuza and Alyssa, Alyssa is better because Bambuza is one way street (jalan Mati). You can go ahead, but when you want to come out you have to “Gostan” or reverse your car. The disadvantage of Alyssa is that, half of the houses, the road is sloping if I am not mistaken as they did not spend enough money to fill the earth to make it level. After making the house they start leveling the land, what is the use? You cannot make it straight.
@whkh, have you measure the house whether is enough accurate at 20ft cause I felt that the house is bit smaller if compare with my current living house which also 20ft…
@DNP Lover
Wonder why you say so ” If he said got 20x60sqft2…Meke sure it has done the built-up properly!”? Are there happen before the inaccurate of measurement?
For those who had bought the A1 type, have you noticed that the steps to the staircase is narrow and steep and inadequate to accommodate your feet. If you go up and down it will cause pain to your calf muscle and heel because the pressure is on the heel (archilles tendon) as the space of the steps is too small and narrow to put your foot. The stair case railings should be higher preferably another 6 inches to 1 foot to prevent children or old people falling down. From occupational safety and health point of view, the staircase is not user friendly. They have been building houses for a long time, how come they can overlook in this aspect? From the words of Steve Jobs, the founder of APPLE, “In business… the Timing of the market is important as well as the QUALITY”.
After all the comments, seems like the developer is building non A class houses for buyers. How much we need to top up to renovate the house then?
U pay peanut u get monkey..
Going by your logic, is RM388,000 house, peanuts? or is it cheap ? Not everybody is rich…many are struggling to pay for it.
In almost every strata of society, it is the middle class that suffers as they are neither rich nor poor. The poor can buy “rumah murah” or low cost or medium low cost houses. The middle class is over qualified to buy low or medium cost houses. The rich can buy bungalow, 3 storey semi D and what not. But for the middle class with inadequate savings, what can they buy? They don’t even build single storey houses anymore as the same land area, developers prefer to build 2 storey or 3 storey houses which can fetch 3 times profit and 3 or 4 times the price of a single storey. Another obstacle the middle class will face is the approval of bank loan. If husband and wife is working it is not so bad…. if start paying for a large sum of housing installments, food and sundries, car, house taxes, petrol, water and electric utilities and telephone, there is nothing much left. The bottom line is, buy what you can afford.. don’t be a slave to your house otherwise you will be in debts. I’ve heard of husband and wife quarreling over money because they bought an expensive house. In the end, the house is just a house but it is not a home when there is no peace and harmony.
@whkh
I’m fully agreed with your statement. !!
@ck_100
Obviously you and other buyers has bought the wrong property. Me, on the other hand manage to get my hands on the soul searching shineville park at a bargain price on the island. In fact bigger then your miserable units. Would you like to buy my subsale units? I need to flip soon as o.c should be right around the corner. Trust me, it will be exciting to live there where once it was a soul “wondering” land.
Nope! I beg to differ. Most of us who bought Alyssa are Machang Bubok people who love the area and some bought it as second house because the present single storey house is too small for big families. We have done our homework and scout around for the best offer in terms of infrastructure, locality, amenities, fresh air, no factories around, free from flood, free from toll, freehold and free from land encumbrances. After going round in the mainland, it is the cheapest in town, near to TESCO and JUSCO, relatively safe area, police and RELA going on patrol, havent heard of gangsters or thugs, touch wood. Near to BM town and Kulim. Enjoy 2 countries. It is very near to lower and secondary schools, in fact, you can even walk to school. When all other taman gets connected nearby, it will be the Petaling Jaya of Bukit Mertajam. See to believe! It’s a pity that some people cannot see the woods from the trees and see pebbles and stones from diamonds!
I have walk in to see the site few days ago thru the muddy road into the site progress area. I have go into the house to take a look which there already fix in the tile. Overall, i give positive comments on the house with the price of 388k in BM area which you can’t find anywhere in BM with such price. Moreover is 20×45 not mostly the standard size of 20×40. Also, the finishing of the car porch is impressive where buyer may no need to waste money to fix any tiles on this. Location is strategic with about 8-10mins to Tesco & Jusco. For those already bought or still keep in view, may can go to view & judge by yourself and not fully depend on the comments & info in the forum.
Yup all in all, its price is very attractive and strategic. Visited the area couple of times, I’m considering either this Alyssa or Garden Residence now.
After listening to the pros and cons, there might be some truth in it, investigate and find out yourself and observe and not accepting any thing at face value. Most of us bought the houses through our hard earn money which we saved over the years and not easy money from “empat nombor ekor” Most of us wants to stay there as we are not speculators who wish to buy and sell properties. We don’t criticize just for the sake of winning the argument or to bad mouth someone. It is constructive criticism with a view to improve future designs and to rectify mistakes. I think buyers have the right to give their point of view so that future improvements can be made.
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For Alyssa purchasers please do not worry. I have checked the area of the house it is exactly what is stated in the brochure. For Type A the land is 60′ x 20′ built up area is 20′ by 40′, and the car porch is 20′ x 20′ For type A1 the land is 68′ x 20′, built up area is 45′ x 20′, the car porch is 23′ x 20′. That means the company do not cheat and is reliable . The only thing I do not like is the workers spiting inside the house , throw rubbish and bottles and I hope they don’t shit inside the house as there is no water supply yet. I hope they wash the house first before they deliver vacant possession.
Yup Agree whkh i went inside to jumped over and had a look. Everything seems like stated by developers. Guess they will do some cleaning before hand it over but it’s us(buyers) need to wash. if any defect found then can feedback la.
I think the developer took pains to make the customers happy, some had repainting done and the rooftop partition zinc metal plate is also painted to prevent rust. The price of the house is the cheapest in town. For every phase they make, there is an improvement in design and quality materials. To compare quality, I went to BM highlands but I don’t like the area surrounded by oil palm plantations and the road is higher than the houses. Price is RM398,000 discount RM50,000 so you pay RM 348,000. The double storey house is 20′ x 72′ , BM highlands house materials and workmanship is better than TF land, ceiling is high more than 12 feet, but at night it is very dangerous for man, women and daughters, if you know what I mean… all pitch dark and surrounded by foreigners and jungle in the vicinity of Taman Bidara which are notorious for housebreaking..
Yes, whkh…i got walk in to take a look last few weeks…everything looks good, expecially the car poarch, so i will no need to spend any money to fix tile on it but have to for the balcony….anyhow the balcony is spacious and can have nice scenery view when stand on the balcony… also there is window on second floor whereby the sun light can go thru inside the 2nd floor family area for those intermediate unit…2nd floor ceiling is lower then 1st floor, might have concern need to fix any suitable type of light and fan. Overall is in good progress in my point of view:)
1. Why Alyssa project’s front door/main door’s wooden quality is so poor?
2. Why kitchen no wall tile, don’t you know can cause to oil stick on wall?
Who the hack use by user name to post comment on #138? I am surprised they can lock in my user name.
The developer send Indonesian maids to wash the whole house, upstairs and downstairs and it smells like a new house. Maybe spring cleaning ahead of the Chinese New Year. No more rubbish, no more bottles and dirty cloth. They are right, the house should be locked to prevent unauthorized people from going in. However my water heater power socket was not fixed properly and wire dangling in the master bedroom toilet, probably due to the plastic socket not fixed properly or the screw is loose. The front floor tile in front of main wooden door was chipped off making it an ugly sight. other than that, it is o.k. I am going to ask them to replace it , even if patched with white cement it would not look nice.The porch is stained by mud foot steps because the road is muddy and they are doing minor repairs there.
The Machang Bubok Police are doing a good job patroling Taman Machang Bubok, Garden Residency and surrounding areas. Hats off to them for keeping the place safe in peace and harmony in their neighborhood policing and making their presence felt. Thank you whoever you are with the smart uniforms and armed making regular beat duty. To the officer in charge, Balai Police Machang Bubok…. your men are doing a good job. Thanks.
They did a good job leveling the road and it looks neat and tidy. But my concrete pillar in front gate was badly damaged presumably by bulldozer or excavator so much so there is wide cracks up and down the pillar with cracks across to the adjoining neighbors pillar with displacement. it cannot be patched up as the pillar had moved to one side. I don’t know how careless they are or is it deliberate act of sabotage.? They have cleaned the house thoroughly but I don’t know how a lump white cement is on upstairs and also downstairs with plastic bottles at the porch. I hope they send the site supervisor to supervise work.
The other day I had a walk and admiring the road which was well done as the road now is lower than the house or almost level. There was some earth dug up and in the pile of freshly dug earth I saw what resembles a tombstone thin sharp object and I thought it could be part of old fencing. I could be wrong but it would be advisable to consult God or do some prayers after you got your OC for safety reasons and for peace and happiness of your family.
Hi whkh
can you share with me more about tombstone? where is the actual location OR more specifically which row of houses?
Thank you.
i looking for corner lot,how much ?
did any one know when hv abt garden recidency talks? since im not penang lang , but i has booked one unit at there..
Hi, anyone know that when this project will obtain OC?
Thanks.
how much now?
So far as i know, it was already sold out.
What is the selling price for the intermediate lot?
around 398k A1 type
around 370k++ A Type
halo bro, do u know when tis project will obtain oc?
Thanks
yg, do you know how many units left for selection?
as i know in march status, all unit were sold out. But there were 2 unit under booking status, buyer under loan process. If loan not approved, maybe still hv available unit.
Anyway, is better u call to ask for the detail or visit the site show house.
thanks yg…interested for the bigger size 20×45….may call to ask
this project already fully book, no more available unit… have u guys know any new launch double storey surrounding the alma-machang bubok area?
@lych
For 2ST, you can choose balance units of TR, JH2.
For 2SD, you can choose the balance units of TFLand’s 2SD beside TR, TR Zero lot, coming The Glades.
Can wait for Alyssa subsale after OC.
Or Hillpark 2
Or Alma Indah 2
Or Permatang Sanctuary 2.
Or Kota Permai 3
@Chocolate
Hahaha, all this property is bound to have correction soon. Don’t touch now.
Hi guys, do you know the lowest started price of the double storey for TR & JH? If not mistaken, these 2 projects should have no more units, right? The project “The Glades” is highly costed landed property, if not wrong started 700K onwards for the semi D, they not build the double storey. Might next should looking for the high rise build already as alert that recently have many new launch for the condo…but more prefer landed as condo seems like the property value not appreciated in mainland…
YG, I am not very sure about the OC but from what I heard it will be somewhere end of the year or early part of 2015 as it has to be passed by various departments like Bomba, TNB and the town council etc etc. Right now they have to plant the electric poles for street lighting and also the telecoms cable at the back lane.
The double storey houses by TF land is the cheapest in town and in good location. Quality wise it is just so so meaning average to slightly above average. I went to Jesselton Hills recently to see the double storey super link house which is designed like semi D house. The quality and finishing is excellent with high ceiling height of 13 feet with quality doors and other furnishings. The land area is 23 feet by 75 feet. Built up area is 23 feet by 50 feet. But the price is high RM609,000.00 Is is secluded area and a bit lonely but surrounded by lakeside landscape.
Lych… you made the right choice, the Alyssa A1 type is the best so far in terms of price and location but quality is just average but unfortunately all were sold out. They maximize the built up area of 20 by 45 because of extra 8 feet of land, so the kitchen looks big and adequate. Had it been 20 by 70 feet it would have been better instead of 20 by 68 feet. Idealy, I would prefer a land area of 22 feet by 75 or at least 22 feet by 70 with a ceiling height of 12 0r 13 feet high for adequate ventilation.
Ong I am not very sure about the tombstone as it could be a fencing “bottle” like structure. It was white in colour with a pointed end at the top. It was excavated by bulldozer and situated along the fence. My first reaction was to take a picture through my I-phone but on second thought I do not know if it was a good omen to do so as I am quite superstitious. Lets hope it was part of an old fencing.
For those thinking of buying a condo, think twice unless you are really hard up for a house and have no choice as this is a mainland area and not Penang island. You only own a piece of property floating in the air that is strata title and the land is not yours. Appreciation of condo is less than landed properties. Moreover, you have to pay maintenance for security guards, swimming pool, maintenance of lifts, gardeners, common area etc. In order words, you pay maintenance fees like paying house rent fro the rest of your lives. On top of that you will have parking problem when visitors come, vandalism, passing urine in lifts and throwing dirty things and other antisocial behaviour. In case of no electricity or the lift breaks down and you are in the 20 th floor, how are you going to manage going up and down? especially when you got old folks at home?
Maybe happened in low cost flat. But RM600k flat at least got 4 lifts and got electricity backup to operate lift.
However, you are right. In Mainland, no condo please.
lych, My accessment:
Cheapest 2ST in town is BM Highland but that is considered out of town, right.
TFL 2ST quality is so so nia, average nia, not above average. Their defects warranty altitude and service approach also so so nia. Machang Bubok location is also so so nia.
That’s why price is cheaper lo. Since no more units left, the type A1 398k was the publicity price. If units are available, surely, won’t be still 398k anymore. Which developers don’t want maximise profit. For comparison, Hill Park 2ST was initially 340K in 2012, no more.
So, you can consider TFL and MB location if budget is the main concern.
BM Highland location is the worse I’ve seen. Opposite Taman Bidara. LOL. Die die also won’t buy BM Highland.
@lych
For JH 2ST, units available, check their forum site. Someone mentioned something like 598K -25K with all legal fees, stamp duty FOC.
For TR 2ST, units available last Aug-Sep 2013 price was abt 470K.
The Glades has 2SD G n G but heard the price going to be like 750K.
Consider those listed by Chocolate too.
If you want condo, you are spoilt for choices.
I doubt u can get any new DST in BM area for less than 500K, unless u go for Machang Bubok postcode area.
You have one good option last 3 months which the townhouse by Sunway only selling for 450K. Or u can consider the single storey by Asas Dunia.
This is exactly the points i pick JH.
– Secluded area
– Good workmanship and finishing (Judging from from JH1 and showhouse)
– Big built up space
I hope the hill maintain as what it is now without any development in future. If i want city life, Island or Butterworth area definitely are the better choices.
The most important criteria in buying a house depends to a large extent on your budget and how much you can afford or willing to pay. Of course without question everybody love a dream house in a good location, good neighborhood. and residential area, free from flood, factories, pollution and free from thugs and gangsters. No point being a slave to your house and a burden to your family if you got into massive debts that you cant service the loan if you were to loose your job.e.g. retrenchment of some unforeseen circumstances.
Machang Bubok will be the next Petaling Jaya of Bukit Mertajam when it links with Tropical residency, Hillpark residency, Taman Sejahtera, and Garden residency etc etc It is fast developing with many shop houses and shopping complex coming up. It is a self contained township with many amenities, no pollution and no factories. You will enjoy 2 states that is Kedah and Penang. If you forget to renew your road tax or driving license just go to Kulim on Sunday to renew it.(about 8KM to JPJ) As regards to artificial man made lake, since the water is not moving and stagnant it might breed Aedes mosquitoes unless you rear fish so that they eat the mosquitoe larvae.
To add to your satisfaction, he, he :
– Practical layout and design with good specs
– Not G n G. Only guarded, is sufficient, save maintenance cost.
– Clubhouse facilities (hopefully)
– Reputation of developer.
– what else ?
@whkh
” Machang Bubok will be the next Petaling Jaya of Bukit Mertajam ” ?
You must be kidding. Bukit Mertajam itself also not even close to Petaling Jaya, PJ and Machang Bubok, MB will be next PJ ?. Taman MB don’t even have a decent hawker centre, wet market, any banks branches, banquet hall for wedding dinner, parks for R n R, prayer buildings, clinic, shops variety, no dim sum eateries like PJ, etc.
However, it has a lot of unopen shop lots even just by the main road side. Tues night pasar malam also stop, cannot sustain. Sun pasar pagi left all the dirty rubbish on the road every week.
Shopping complex can sustain in MB meh ?
Bandar Machang Bubok is TFL advertisement and signboard gimmick, no Bandar lah. Just slightly better than Kulim Kota Kenari.
It is time for you to question back your favourite developer or bosses all the poor developments over these years. Luckily TR and Hill Park are nearby.
@whkh
From your comment, seem like you are novice property investor/agent.
You are entitled to your opinion Mr Investor. Rome is not built in a day. I remember when I bought a house in Machang Bubok people thought I am crazy and the Chinese said “Sua Teng” or ulu and underdeveloped and few are interested in that area. Now it is growing slowly but surely and soon banks might move in, to service the many tamans there. I am just saying be careful of chasing high end property market as when the bubble burst everybody will run for cover. It is cyclical… what goes up may come down and what goes down may come up.
@spiderman, you don’t expect everything to happen overnight. Bandar Machang Bubok have 2 clinics now(formerly none) supermarket, restaurants, hardware shops, tire and battery shops, flower shops, stationary shop, internet cafe, 2 lower and secondary schools, chinese school, mechanics and if you are to venture across to kampong Machang Bubok you can do your marketing there which is quite cheap. The new phase of shop lots that they are building now is sold out. Give another 2 years you can see transformation and development and probably banks will be there too.
@whkh
ok lo. Phase 1 houses and shops are 15 years old. 15 yrs only able to attract these few shops, not even a bakery. Chinese primary school in Kampung Machang Bubok is already there long time ago, not due to TFL. That other 2 schools were built as part of big project requirement on developer. New phase shop lots, developer advertise 70% sold and you advertise as sold out. A lot of shops eventually become warehouses, mini factory. Ok, ok, I will ask my bro and his frens to wait and dream for another 2 years. WELCOME to BANDAR MACHANG BUBOK, my fren. Pls don’t give up hope.
After saw ur post, i went to observe and also found that the car porch is sloping. Can we complaint to the developer regarding this issue? Will they take action…
I am not too sure the developer will entertain the complain. If they repair the sloping porch they have to repair for everybody and that means extra cost and labour. I failed to see the rationale of a sloping porch. To me I see obstruction and a danger to children.
If you see the storeroom under the staircase… the door is facing inwards which by right should be outwards as you cannot put things inside the store room as the door is an obstruction. You have to repair and fix the door facing outwards. We have to tell the developer to change the hinge and adjust accordingly.
Another thing, the fan hook has no uniformity or consistency in size. Some are slightly thicker, some hook is so thin like a wire ,some are long and thin, some are too short and embedded inside the ceiling that you cannot tie the fan. I don’t know if the fan can stand the weight of a heavy fan.(eg. long lasting USHA fan ,made in India) What if it gives way and drop on the head? If I know this problem when they are pouring the concrete, I should have bought a thick iron hook and give it to the developer to fix it I wonder such thin iron hook can be passed by the town council and is it safe to hang the fan? Make a survey….seeing is believing.
If we want to complaint, is it need to wait until get the house key and make a report about the defect?
whkh, you really a attentive and enthusiastic buyer. Thumb up!!!
Have anyone observed the difference between the drainage system of 1st phase and the second phase drain? The first phase drain, in front of the house, is higher than the road and it resembles a “floating longkang” or drain. The drainage port holes are completely closed up leaving the drainage to only one side of the road, that is, towards the house or flows downwards along the road. (drainage to one side of the road only)
In comparison to the second phase, the drain is in equilibrium or the same level as the road so there is drainage port holes on both sides of the drain. That means excess water can be drained on both sides of the road.
@spiderman,
There was a bakery at the corner of the last shop right to the end but “chap Lap”. I went there before but didn’t buy anything as it was a bit expensive. Either the bread or cake not nice or the price is a bit expensive, so no business, it closed shop.
In times like these what business are you going to do?. Look at BM town so quiet nowadays. So shop lot takes time for people to move in except maybe massage parlours or hairdressing saloon, tea houses and kopitiam which Machang Bubok had a few. That is why I’ve said it many times, and Ive said it again, be careful of chasing expensive properties.. when the economic “crunch” comes everybody suffer except the rich. As regards to the shop lots being sold out, I was told by Tf land people that they had sold all the units….. unless they were telling me a lie.
@whkh
Good advice there not to chase expensive properties. But nowaday most properties in Penang are expensive. I think most people are quite intelligent and that’s why most Penangites stop chasing properties. And that’s why sub sale market is almost zero. This will lead to a very bad consequences soon.
Soon going to be no more the so called expensive properties.
If you look it at another way….. land in Penang island is scarce and limited. Different from the mainland. Working class people have no choice but to buy condo or flats. From what I see, Penang island properties will remain competitive and expensive if demand exceeds the supply..
@whkh
I think supply exceeds demand. Just look at empty condo in Penang Island and empty landed house in Balik Pulau.
And majority Penangites salary are not able to afford >RM400k properties.
True that penang island will remain competitive.
The issue here is demand has reached the saturated point. In fact, it already overshoot. One real data that we really need to concern about is the household debt ratio at 86%. BNM already worry. We spend more than we can produce.
@whkh
who is chasing for expensive properties ? It is the greedy developers whom sell expensively and keep raising prices with every new rows, phases, projects launched that make genuine buyers susah. Of course, buyers are looking for convinient location, LA/BU, house design, quality, specs, facilities, security, the area developments and developer track record. Some sell cheaper (though not really cheap) but with so many shortcomings.
I went to Tropicale Residency to have a look on the double storey. The interior looks small & short with 20X40 but with back yard, anyhow the back yard should can’t extend as this is strata title property. The car porch also looks small and seems like only can occupy by 1 car whereby the front gate is only enough to in 1 car, weird on this? The road in front of the house is narrow, which seems like no one can park their car beside the gate only can park inside the car porch. Also, no store room under stair case, as the space under stair case is open concept. Furthermore, there is the gap space between the upside master room & downside small room which located on the 2nd floor living area. The better side is that the environment looks modern & nice with g&g concept, but the interior house is not spacious enough as what I wish for. You guys can pay a visit to there….
For TR, can go penangpropertytalk.com/2011/05/tropicale-residency/ for more info.
@lynch,
From what you’ve said about TR, Alyssa Tpye A1 is the better choice in terms of value, price, location and overall design layout except for minor flaws. It is freehold, built up is 20 x 45 feet have dry and wet kitchen. 2 kitchen sink, 5 power points in the kitchen area, extra tap head for washing machine near the toilet. The balcony is also a place to dry your clothes, except they are stingy to give tiles for the balcony. Unfortunately all sold out. If you have a chance to go in, just have a look inside.
I also went to TR and I feel the DST is very cramp. The road between opposite house is too small. Tropicale Residency DST is like a low cost flat in a taman. LOL
You guys can have a visit into Tropicale residency where they open for visit. All & all, the pros is the environment is really looks modern & nice with g&g concept, quality looks good. But the double storey really looks small & short whether interior, car porch, also the front road in between. Anyhow, semi D & Bungalow really looks spacious & awesome in this project, unfortunately…i can’t afford at this moment.
Another advantage of Alyssa is that there is ample parking space in front as there are no houses in front, so you don’t disturb your neighbor. The road is quite broad. In front of the fencing is government land maybe road reserve which they plant fruit trees like durian, shrubs, greenery and trees which is good filter for dust and provide shade and cooling effect. Not only that… there are 3 entrances (road) to Alyssa. (North, South and West). The only thing that is missing now is the landscaping. For Bambooza they start planting bamboo for the fence but for Alyssa I hope they plant shrubs or bamboo to provide greenery that is pleasing to the eye or else where are they going to get Alyssa flowers?
I agree that Tropicale residency landscape and environment appears to be classy
and high class but everything comes with a price tag. Nothing is free. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You pay for maintenance, guards, club house, swimming pool and other facilities which will drain a big hole in your pocket. You pay for massive housing loan every month and maintenance fees for gated and guarded community every month like paying house rent for the rest of your lives. In the end you will go bankrupt. It is for the rich and the well to do unless money is not a problem to you and you can comfortably afford it.
For those who had bought Type A, the first 6 row of houses …. please enjoy the beautiful Machang Bubok mountain view scenic landscape when you are standing at the balcony. For the Type A1, the Machang Bubok mountain view is partially blocked by durian trees, shrubs or roof tops so it is partially obscured or blocked.
At this moment in time… those who had bought houses facing the Machang Bubok mountain view, it is a sight to behold. It’s simply awesome!!!
Any crack issue happen?
@lych
I went to the Tropics (TR) to have a look and I agree with you it is small, because the built up area is small 20 by 40 and the design is fanciful with the winding staircase located right at the hall with no storeroom which makes it untidy and not neat This design takes a lot of space as there is a huge pillar at the entrance of the hall. A house with small land area should have a simple and classic design then the house will look big with high ceiling. The back yard is big presumably 10 feet, but as what you’ve said cannot be extended as it is a strata title and not freehold. There is no back lane (except a path for you to walk) for the town council lorry to take the rubbish so you have to put the rubbish in front of the house. The back part of the DST house is like a ravine about 15 to 20 feet deep facing the main road. In others, there is a huge wall in front of the house facing the bungalow. Not a good Foong Shui..I think. There is a lot of electrical wires jutting out along the road or in front of the house. The wall fencing is so low some as low as 3 feet or 4 feet the most. Alyssa is 5 feet high Quality wise ok and the garden landscape is beautiful. The gate entrance is small but have solid mild steel iron gate which is thick and heavy.
@whkh
Can u check with ur boss what is the plan for abandon 2ST project at Lrg Machang Bubok 31 ? My fren said years ago, the reinforced concrete framework half way done and suddenly stopped, halted, suspicious developer started built them without permit yet. That narrow Lorong MB 31 is the main access road for many. So, IF project revised also problem, it will cause safety issue as cars are parking at both sides of that narrow Lorong but IF not revised also problem, cos now bushes already grown at the concrete, very eye sores and unhealthy. That area supposely build as children playground field or landscape in the first place. Thank you very much.