@owner

How are they to give better deal ? They themselves are not contractors but relying
on others to give them the cut.

@Property
ah, now I see.
But they should at least be able to look at the bigger picture of either getting booted out by the police in an ugly tussle, or do business in harmony with the hundreds of residents. There are already example cases of residents getting what they want when united…this is not the first time

@Imperial buyer
Did they told all grille need to be done by them?

Hi all, just dropping by here to offer some advice (I’m not an OI buyer by the way).

The news which someone posted was back in 2013. I remember reading about it in the newspaper then, and also pretty sure the issues persist till today.

What I can advise is that all of you make an individual police report, then bring the report when meeting Jagdeep. If can, please also highlight this with the YB in that constituency.

Our Penang Police (Penang Road one) also have a meet-and-greet session with the public. Can’t recall the exact day (it used to be Thursday afternoon I think), so you can also bring this issue to their attention. If all else fails, (this is from personal experience) you can raise this to authority of an even higher like those Inspectors from Bukit Aman or KL. They will almost always help us out.

Finally, I suggest going in a group to show solidarity.

Don’t just give in to these ridiculous and threatening demands from these gangster contractors. Good luck!

If you scatch our car, we will pass the police your name card, we have more than 1500 cars in one imperial, if anything happens to our car in anywhere, the police will ask u to the Balai, so u will have always visit the Balai to and flo every hour and everyday, so u have to set up a counter outside the police station also, that time u will think why don’t settle the case harmony with the owners

May I know how much the GC charge the rubbish collection fees? Need to know what is their service by collecting the money from the owners. Put it down in black and white will be great.

@thekeys8

Not sure how it works. I have no prior experience in dealing with this. Can anyone here who had prior experience advise what is needed to lodge report? What constitutes evidence? Can the statements made by residents collectively be considered evidence? Or we need to wait until we get harassed by the GC only can we take action?

@Reggie

Take a photo or two when they set up table and chairs and make police report
that these guys are demanding the “rubbish fees” from the residences.

gangster yao :
Beware of your cars one imperial buyers… scratches everywhereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee… watch up man!

How many commision you get from GS?

If they really collect the rubbish in few hundred ringgit, and do the irongrille in good manner,( not so paksa, by willing manner) of course, we don’t complaint so much,last time our few old houses renovation also did by show unit,it is impossible for anybody hand in more than thousand for u because u are jahat, u also have to consider, u also don’t know all the background of all the residents, might be some residents have stonger background than u, some cucu is a lawyer,or somebody have some connection with the balai people, 7 hundred above units u know, what is the job of security guards of our gate? If nama busuk Idea spread out, they will have few big projects to carry out in future, will they willing to give out everything of their hard work because of u, friend nobody will hand in money for u so simple, if like that every factory in BayanLepas have to close up, everybody just set out counter at any condo will do, we don’t need to work OT, earn money in good way, besides we have car, u also have, what for, we flight each another as enemy! We can not give all the renovation for u because some of us are contractors, some of us father iron factory owner, some of us invited interior designer from Singapore,by don’t expected we have to hand over all job to u, of cause we won’t announce to everyone this is our Penang practice, if we will, YB Lim Kuan Eng will not admit.Think others and think for yourself too before u act, do very hope we will become friends and not like that, everything must reasonable and acceptable

Only Ideal project got this gangster issue? how about the projects nearby by other developers like garden ville, sierra? or anyone idaman iris owner can share their experience which OC for quite sometime.

Sierra doesn’t have, they charge RM 1800 for clearing the rubbish, iron grille also must done by them, others part of house don’t know

They refer to those in one imperial

looks like ideal is one of this big problem:
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/08/12/Gangster-contractors/

I think bring in the media attention will sapu them fast?

@Imperial buyer

I cannot understand why Ideal not come out to solve and settle this kind of issue. This unhappy issue keep on continues. Ideal know sell condo but don know solve when come to this issue happen.

@Annie T

From the day before laying the foundation, Ideal already agreed to the gangster
to be the sole “rubbish fees” collector when the project completed.

@Annie T

Please make sure your own contractors do not throw your rubbish to your neighbor. I saw many cases where own contractors simply left the rubbish or boxes at the corridor. When wind blow, who knows where the rubbish will be flying to.

@Lim
must done by them! pls report police .. good luck

It seems like a lot of owners are not satisfied and not willing to be chopped by the gangster but none really taking any action. If this is how it is, there won’t be any action taken and in the end, all will just have to give in. One or two that lodge report will not help. Anyone surrendered and let them do renovations?

It seems like a lot of owners are not satisfied and not willing to be chopped by the gangster but none really taking any action. If this is how it is, there won’t be any action taken and in the end, all will just have to give in. One or two that lodge report will not help. Anyone surrendered and let them do renovations? How about wiring and plaster ceiling? Anyone has any info about it? I am trying to move in by CNY but looks like everything is stuck. Almost a month since I got the keys but nth is being done

@imperial buyer
@Annie T
Then most probably those so call “in house contractor” have a “mutual agreement” with Ideal! If not how come other developer did not facing this kind of issue.

Something like chicken and egg, for sure Ideal give the authority to set up a boot in the OI. Or else, how they can have this such of so called ” appointed contractor”. Do you think Ideal do not gain any profit? I don’t think so…

The price given by the appointed contractor is totally unacceptable. Much more higher than the market price.

Another thing that I would like to highlight is the grill, the design of the grill seem like not effective at all, the gap is too big and there is only vertical structure and no any horizontal support. The risk that I can think off is small kids will potentially fall from the window and your stuff which you put in the foyer will easily get stole. This is only my thought, please drop by the “Appointed Contractor” corner to view the sample, you will know what i am talking about.

If I know like that, I won’t buy this condo, GSD still got a lot of projecs nearby, I will let anybody know don’t buy Ideal project because at the same time u buy problems too, u have to pay extra few thousand for nothing but problems that not stated under S & P , Ideal projects, NO!

goto IO FB. Got OI community. Raised concern there. Seems like got people already “feedback”!.

@Imperial buyer

The main issue is the buyer cant get the satisfied interior renovation and they have to face it everyday. Btw, I don’t think that just paying extra few thousand, grill, cabinet, wiring, all above market price.. 20-30% ?

all talk but no work wont change anything. if everyone dont want to pay stupid money to gangster, go ahead and lodge a police report! complaining here wont change anything

Owners has to be united and don’t compromise to this so call appointed contractors. We has the rights to choose our own ID, carpenters, and contractors.

We fix a date and ask all the owners to gather at OI, then we set up a community, we have police report together, we also can hang banner and ask YB, and all media together, we have to flight, sorry gangsters u already caused all my joy of buying new house dissappear, we let the matter big, see how u cari makan, u also Ideal, don’t buy any Ideal projects, see how, we have to highlight the name if Ideal, see who fear who, don’t forget your big projects, let it perish!

keep us posted…we will show up for support…

I am not sided to neither in-house contractor nor the OI buyers. Just want to raise my concern here. I know is not right for the so-called in-house contractor to use ‘forced’ manner towards the buyers. But if their service & quotation given is reasonable, why not give them a try…we can judge & comment on their quality & service provided. Moreover, they will be stationed there for at least 1/2 year to 1 year. So, if there is any problem detected, u can always look for them, unlike other contractors once $ obtained, any problem, they are un-reachable. By engaging them, they will help you to clean & throw debris & rubbish, they are also responsible for any building damages during renovation. Outside contractors that you engaged won’t help you to clear all these & just leave everything beside the corridor. When your items & belongings move in, will the delivery help you to un-packed, clear the empty boxes, plastic bags & carton away from your house? The so-call rubbish fee is meant for all these services (provided they are charging reasonable fee la)

@concern

If the service is good and price reasonable by the so called in house contractor, no body will complain here. if the so called in house contractor can give the “one dragon” house renovation service with quality n reasonable price, who will want to waste time to look for outsiders.

I saw a business opportunity here, developer should partner with the renovation contractor on their projects to be their legal renovation contractor on project. Giving reasonable price n provide “one dragon” service. Many owner will sure like it as it give them less trouble on researching/looking for contractor on their own.

Anyone got the fire insurance certificate from management so far?

I have good experience working with in-house contractor. Service good and flexible. Price reasonable for the works that I engaged them to do.

@robert chai

This gangster contractor is not a contractor themselve. They rely other
contractors to give them a cut, so how are they to give a reasonable price ?

@nana
are you referring to the same in-house contractor?

Anyone have the contact number/person for the renovation contractor? I want compare against outsider.

if the samseng are asking for reasonable sampah fee, i’m sure no one will complain over here. please look at other projects regardless of developer where their samseng only ask for rm200-rm500. they dont even complain. it’s very obvious that the samseng at one imperial has a very very big mouth and they want to suck owners blood dry! 768 units and they want 1600-1800 per unit! very very greedy!

It’s incredibly naive to expect the gangster contractors to provide decent workmanship, let alone with reasonable price. Seriously. Do you really think this is possible? Let me lay it out for you how these gangster contractors operate. When you engage them to do something, they charge you a “price”, which if you do some legwork & check outside is usually 20-50% more expensive than the average contractor. Why? Because all they do is take your money, get their cut, and use the rest of the money to pay some small time bangla or indon contractor to do it! They do nothing! Just a blood-sucking middleman, with his fist flashed at your face.

You want reasonable price? How to get reasonable price when there is a “gangster markup” with totally no added value? You want decent workmanship? You think you will get that from that poor bangla contractor who is obviously under-paid due to the gangster markup?

And if you believe the gangsters may do the reno work themselves, all you need to do is ask yourselves this question: What do gangsters do for a living? Fix houses is it? Those who believe that need to get their heads checked.

Still think you can get decent workmanship? Reasonable price? Really?

@ImperialOwner

no point calling them cuz they will ask you to go to meet them face to face. they wont disclose anything via phone call

Hi Block D unit 7 owner, did you guys noticed the wall near corridor during raining water will splash into our main door. Please help to add this into defect list to request developer to cover it with widows.

mai luan la just pay la

Why should only Penang has Gangster in-house contractor problem? Other states does not have such issues. Oasis Condo have same problem 2 years ago and in-house contractor get kick out after residence make police report.
We owner has to be united and gang up to fight for our rights and make another complaint to Jadeep Singh road at Komta to take this case.

Can we have some action on them like fixing a date to gather at OI or lodge a police report tgt? As my contractor just gone through a talk with them and the so called in house contractor mentioned we need to purchase the brick and cement with even if we pay the RM1800 rubbish fee. the brick and cement price the asked for is more than 50% of the market price. This is RIDICULOUS.

That’s why i never got any interest with Ideal Property. Who knows if the developer make a deal with gangster contractor.

We have to take action fast, because we have to bear maintenance fee from Dec onwards, some owner have to move in fast as they now rent house and bear bank interest at the same time, some even worst, they already sold out their old house and must move in between this 3 months, we buy the house with our hard earned money, I really don’t have extra budget for these nonse, I don’t have the money! It seem that the gangsters don’t have the sincerely, still think that we are easy to bully, and force us to report police, don’t blame us, gangster and Ideal Property too!

Hello, Ideal Property, besides paying for RM 1800 for clearing the rubbish every unit have to pay extra few thousands for nothing, if we take action, u wont lost one condo, we will make u lost one city if u pretend bisu, your whole SLOW CITY new projects will gone by the wind!

Yea, beside the material that more expensive 50% than market value, even drill a hole in our own house also need done by what call in house contractor so we need to pay thousand for nothing and also the rubbish fees. The price like this is totally UNACCEPTABLE and is really too OVER. We need to gather and take action on this.

I see the predicament you’re all in, and also the cohesion to work together to resolve this gangster contractor issue. Go ahead folks, although I’m not an OI buyer but I really hope you guys will be able to fight for and defend your rights from all the parties mistreating us buyers.

Heloo!
when you afford to bought 400K+ housing but the clearing rubbish 1.8K++ you unable to paid .
It really ridiculous and this is Malaysia, you can go ahead report any one you like however is the same.
No one use gun point on your head to buy this properties and Ideal won’t lost anything due to this issue because is just common case where any properties problem. Like it or not is up to U!!

Peace

@Intruder
Heloo!
We afford to buy 400k doesn’t mean we need to bare the rubbish fee.
We bought it with our hard earn money. If you are so kind enough and 1.8k is not a big deal for you , you must be rich enough and just help us the little poor guy to pay for it..
I will be appreciate for what you have done. Else just keep your mouth shut and please be consideration.

1st of all…nothing in the S&P that stated is mandatory for us to pay the rubbish fee. So, we have the right not to pay…
Everything must be stated upfront in the agreement, so that is fair for the buyers to know what to expect. If non, dun expect us to pay

Hmm…
I don’t want to said i’m rich or poor however i’m willing to paid for it , that all.
Although telling pity story , sell this and sell that does’nt make any changes you bought 400k+ properties , look like joke of the day to me.
Anyway every one are working hard to own a properties that the facts .
If you insist not to paid i can wish you” good luck and have a nice day”.

@Intruder

u suka pay u pay lo, i won’t pay..

Hi guys,
I did my part and reported to Bayan Baru Police station. please do your part.
Police told me the same as OI MGMT said. the land owner(Not Idea) appointed this contractor.
I’m not from law, we need ppl familiar law to advice.

The problem is OI residences need to be united to settle this issue.
What I can think are:

1) Lodge police report all together.
2) Bring up this issue to IDEAL as well. Ask for their opinion and help. See what IDEAL have to say with this.
3) Voice this issue to Sungai Ara Minister.
4) If anyone have media friends, can help to bring this issue to newspaper.

Bring this issue BIG.

Well said,
a)Lodge police how many going ? this is a 700++ owner , how many investor and how many staying will stood up on this.
b)Bring up issue , from what point you going to fight. About the agreement.
c)How Big is your voice to sound. This is non- goverment related.
d)Media usually report big cases and you going to make it big because not paying 1.8k++ but u bought 400K++.

Good Job and i’ll support you to do it and make it happen don’t just keyboard warrior.
Time is ticking next month are dec 2015 until CNY you still bother on this mean while i doing house warming already.

@kie

Land owner appointed them or not is nothing related to us am i right? We are free to select contractors that we prefer because we never sign any agreement regarding rubbish fee or “must allow them to do renovation”. Correct me if i am wrong. I hope someone from owners can rise up to lead all of us making noise here. Anyway, i will also do my part to make police report.

Care to share ? How much you paid to the IC ? btw , what if anothet IC asking for money ?
The IC gave guarantee to you, after paid, no issue ?

Please advise.

Thanks.
@Intruder

@Alvin
Yes, i believe the land owner have no authority on this. maybe because of less noise raise to police, so the police simply entertain me said they are appointed by land owner.

mai luan la… pay la!

1st of all, developer or management should not allow them to place a table inside the building and walk around freely. They are not the resident of one imperial.
Snap a picture of the tables and those ppl who place the table inside the building and verified with developer or management to ensure they are not authorized to stay inside the building. After that we can report police to chase them out.

Stand firm and don’t pay, so that this culture wont continue. 700 units of residences, half of the numbers voice out and be united, I believe they cannot do any things but to leave one imperial.

After applying electricity, install hidden CCTV during renovation, if they brave to disturb or play a fool, bring the footage to police station. Nowadays is Technology world, no longer gangster world.

Fyi, if paying RM1800 for the so-call sampah fee ….I suggest you can use this RM1000++ to engage a lawyer and force the management or developer to take action on these issue as the so-call in-house contractor are not officially appointed by developer or management, by law they are not allow to do business in the building.

I am not OI owner but i am impress on the condo base on the outlook. So, I drive by and ask the security i just want to drive inside and have a look, the security not allow me to go in because i am not owner.

This lead me to this discussion & after reading fews of the comments, if u ask me, sure the so call in house contractor got something to do with developer la. else how come can setup the table inside OI & go in and out freely.

may be some under table deal between developer n in house contractor.

@visitor

Agreed. Just look around, those projects name that started with “One” or “I”, will come with a package of internal contractor. What’s a coincidence !

@Jack
LOL…if you said like this, then I-condo, One Foresta sure kena kao kao lo…wahahaha

So called the Land Owner (Not Idea) appointed this contractor. So, Ideal buy from this Land Owner, we buy from Ideal then Land Owner “press” OI resident to pay sampah fees. We pay all the maintenance. Then our privacy is “occupied” but outsider. Nonsense !

@thekeys8

This is no such thing as “land owner” appointed this contractor. Ideal should be
held responsible for this gangster contractor.

@Intruder
It’s not a matter if we can afford to pay the additional fees or not. It’s a matter of why should we pay those high additional fees??? We are expected to pay RM2K deposit to the management when we do reno and it will not be refunded if the reno violates any rules and regulations including not clearing the rubbish!!!

@kie
Correct! That’s what i understand from the Ideal officer that the contractor is appointed by Tunas Muda which sold Ideal the land. Guess they got good land price with such condition included. I heard that this gangster contractors practice is common for all developers except IJM projects. Someone can comment to this if you know. Personally, if their prices are reasonable, it’s ok to engagement them but their prices are much higher than mkt rates. One of the reasons is they normally signed a deal with the developer/the related parties with a lump sum money and hence they need to earn them back.

@Property Investor

There is no such thing as appointed by Tunas Muda which sold Ideal the land.
Is there an agreement or contract saying so ? Please don’t try to wash dirty
hands of Ideal !!!!!!

@Property
Hello, You can go ask Ideal (if the person is willing to share with you) or people in this industry of whose land it belongs to…even if there is agreement, who are we to ask to see that?? I’m not trying to wash hands of Ideal as I’m one of the ‘victims’ too. I’m merely sharing what I know and why are the contractors charging at high prices. I personally strongly disagree with such practices. The only way to resolve this is to log a police rpt and complain to the authority.

@Property Investor

I know them too well to ask. They themselves can’t “kautim” so they had to
agree to them when they wanted to start piling to be saved from troubles.

Hello all owners,
Please spare some of your precious time, it may take 30min or less to lodge a case. rather than be keyboard warrior here.
My advice before going there to lodge the case, please go and have a short talk with this contractor, e.g. asking the price if you not let them do all and also the name of that person you talked to. don’t going there based what you only see in here.

How much the GC charge for extra power points, lighting points and electrical items installation?

I have ask them quote me kitchen cabinet (lower part), small area of tile above kitchen cabinet, grill door, yard window.total RM6500. Is this reasonable?

Hi all. Apart from lodging police reports. Please also consider raise up this issue to our MP YB Sim Tze Tzin… They are chose by the people to tackle our plights..I have dripped him a message through FB but unable to post on his wall as his friend request has hit limit. If anyone of you are able to post on his wall.. Please help to bring this issue to his attention.. Thank you…

Kitchen cabinet + grill + yard window = Rm6500.

is a good offer

@Little gal

@Little gal
Hi Little Gal, mind to share your Kitchen Cabinet size(how many feet?)What material they quote?

Intruder :
Well said,
a)Lodge police how many going ? this is a 700++ owner , how many investor and how many staying will stood up on this.
b)Bring up issue , from what point you going to fight. About the agreement.
c)How Big is your voice to sound. This is non- goverment related.
d)Media usually report big cases and you going to make it big because not paying 1.8k++ but u bought 400K++.
Good Job and i’ll support you to do it and make it happen don’t just keyboard warrior.
Time is ticking next month are dec 2015 until CNY you still bother on this mean while i doing house warming already.

You wanna move in during CNY doesn’t mean everyone wants to move in during CNY.

Intruder :
Heloo!
when you afford to bought 400K+ housing but the clearing rubbish 1.8K++ you unable to paid .
It really ridiculous and this is Malaysia, you can go ahead report any one you like however is the same.
No one use gun point on your head to buy this properties and Ideal won’t lost anything due to this issue because is just common case where any properties problem. Like it or not is up to U!!
Peace

Very funny guy. Paid 400K but need to waste another 1.8K for nothing? That is my money. not ur money. I can use the 1.8K to do many things.

@Go4mainland

Not 100% waste, you can ask your own contractor to charge your lower now that they can dispose off their rubbish to the GC.

Mine is 1050sq ft, kitchen cabinet using plywood, table top is tiles..

Tower D, unit # 7 corridor will get wet when raining, owner please add this problem in defects sheet, hope that management can install the awning or glass window to solve this problem.

one more observation: the timber door at main entrance is shaking and loose after locking. this make a lot of noise, after telling the Ideal staff who brought us up to view the unit, he said the worker did not put the 4 rubber, we also can include this in the defects form.

@Little gal

There is no plywood because of the pricing. It’s only chipboards.

@Little gal

Is your kitchen cabinet L shape?

I am not going to pay 1.8k for nothing. #Y Y Y PAY MORE#

that intruder is appointed contractor or ideal staff? rm1800 also he/she is willing to pay! lol even rich people also wont simply invest in something this stupid! who’s gonna pay rm1800 for something that is not needed? you think is donation to the needy? stop wasting time arguing with this kinda people.

doesnt matter rm1800 or rm800, we shouldnt pay anything to those samseng! they threaten us, so we have to lodge police report! we have to pay deposit to management prior to renovation. if our contractors left any rubbish behind, management can deduct from our deposit.

if management unable to control or monitor our hired contractors, then it’s because they are not fit for this duty! we pay monthly service/maintenance fee for what then?

Tower C, unit # 1 & 2 corridor will get wet when raining, owner please add this problem in defects sheet, hope that management can install the awning or glass window to solve this problem.

So far is anyone manages to call in their own appointed contractor w/o “problem”?

Yesterday heavy rain and I was at the swimming pool area. Observed the surrounding facility area flooded & slippery after the rain stopped. This is extremely dangerous for elderly people whereby they can slip off and cause serious injuries. Hope owners take this issue seriously and get hold of the developers to come up with a solution.

I am an owner of a unit at Blk C for sale. Anyone interested especially direct buyer can email me at wayz223@gmail.com

Hi, anyone selling the Ground Floor unit? Very keen buyer. Pls email to sl_kn_88@hotmail.com
Tq.

Did the police manage to chase the samseng contractor ????

God Father :
Did the police manage to chase the samseng contractor ????

Did you made a police report ? Otherwise how we expect police to take action ?

OI Owner – this is just a question posted to get feedback since im in oversea currently, your throwing the ball back to me which I feel is not going to benefit you in either way. The objective is to chase them out with higher authority`s help, not to question each other. Im doing all I can from my end to get this issue resolved. Well.. in my point of view this is good forum to discuss unbiased info. Lets all owners of 1 imperial stay united till end.

Pardon me. Please accept my apology.

@God Father

How many of the OI owner already logged the report? Mind to share the report no?

Dont give a damn about this people. just call in your renovation contractors to start your reno, CNY around the corner d.

Anyone having unit type B over here (1180 sq ft)? Is your master bed room aircon fix at the corner of the room? Just wondering whether can complain or not because it doesn’t make any sense to locate the aircon at the corner between two side of walls.

tomorrow there will be a communication section between Ideal and One imperial residence to discuss on the Renovation issue and others. The venue is at One imperial Community Hall, besides Futsal. (Venue : 19Dec, One Imperial Community Hall, 11.00am)

Thanks MK for the info.

Sorry, I am not in Penang. Anyone attended the session, and what was the outcome of the meeting?

Fyi, get to know All project from Ideal Property, upon completion there will be gangster contractor force you to take up their renovation service or else need to pay so-call “sampah fee”. They charge ridiculous price. Many owner of Ideal Property is facing this issue, and the developer didn’t help to solve this issue, worst still allowing them to set up a booth in the building. So think twice before make the choice to buy their project.

only those stupid paid the sampah fee, I dint pay any 1 cent and done my reno, duno u guys scare wat? I also want recuit contractor set up and ask sampah fee from u guys

@stupid
Hi, how u did it? The gangster didn’t approach u? As I know, when we want to reno, we need to get a approved letter (by gangster) and stick in front of our main door. Am I right?

It looks like Bayan Lepas areas surrounded by appointed contractors including Arena Residency. They will charge you sampah fee, electrical wiring, air con point and grille need to be done by them.

@Pity owner
Not true. The letter is from management office stick in front your main door… Kindly read and understand what this notification/memo is for..
What gangster has to do with your main door? Why you need to approach gangster when you have nothing to do with them..

I urge all the owners, please raise this up and made a report against anyone who purposely defer, stop you from doing reno..instead of chicken out here..

so, what is the outcome of the discussion between Ideal on the renovation issue? pls share.

Can somebody who attend the discussion answer “Storm” `s question?
It would be really helpful…

May I know what’s the issue here?? I am planning to buy a unit there.

@God Father

Situation no change.

What happened to the plan to lodge police report and also complain to YB Jagdeep? Need someone with this experience to guide and lead us to do this. I’ll definitely support. This practice has to end.

encourage all lodge police report, I’m not sure how many of you already report. But I think still very less. If the police told u they appointed by land owner Tunas Muda for collecting sampah fee, u should not accept this answer, unless they have document to show which I doubt they have.

if nothing change then just lodge police report, if police also cant help then OI owner will hv no choice but to treat this sampah fees as part of the purchase price…by thinking like this then will not so hurt! Malaysia really boleh.

Is that all you can do? Keep on going guys i know you all can do it.

Police will tell you to complain to Ideal after you made police report

Jagdeep singh will tell you that they will try their best to get the police to work after you passed them your police report

Ideal will tell you that they are trying their best to reduce the sampah fee

Samseng will tell you, Ideal accepted their sampah fee “guide” and nominated them to do your hacking and grille (which are 20-50% more expensive than market price)

No one else can do hacking and grille for you unless you pay samseng and your own contractor (pay both sides).

So, all owners will have to take samseng for excessively expensive grille and hacking works besides paying a “reduced” sampah fee.

@Intruder
That is not all. at the same time, I’m waiting the email reply from Ideal CEO. He promised me to “look into this seriously” and will reply me again.

One of my fren got the renovation from the same contractor, very upset. All workmanship very lousy, somemore the work not yet finish always ask to take money. After that cabut, most of the work do half way.

Seem we really need to take action to kick out this contractor

@Buyer
you comments seems realistic and true! good luck OI buyer.

This the post from pretty police
November 18th, 2015 at 23:45 | #65 Reply | Quote
Please report all gangster who force you to do renovation with them to
DAP.YB. JAGDEEP SINGH DEO A/L KARPAL SINGH … Fax : 04 – 261 8704. : jagdeepsinghdeo@penang.gov.my.

Log a police report, scan and send to Jadeep Singh email address to request for an appt. His secretary will arrange a time for Jadeep to meet u.
It may takes up to a month for such appt. So be patience! We needs more healthy society for Penang, not control by gangster.
So Penang goverment shall take action, if owner goes through the right channel.

This is one of the worst management from ideals developer.. No quality &lousy management& handover by developer.. We are expecting a condo is fully gated & guarded with proper management to have privacy. This is totally a shit & hau siau management. Yet to let these contractor to working here& that.. I will never &ever bought any property from this developer. Sorry to say that but it is true.

I left a comment here before, now dropping by again after reading all the comments. Guys, go ahead and report this to Jagdeep, though I highly doubt he’ll ever do anything. Reasons being, we also had an issue (with the developer of another Affordable Home project). A number of us sent him emails (even copying our respective YBs), sent him letter of complaints, & even met him personally at his office during his meet up session with the public. You know what? It’s the typical reply: I’ll take a look into this. In the end, no action was taken whatsoever.

Your best bet is to each lodge a police report, and if the Penang police refuses to act, then go ahead and raise this with Bukit Aman HQ. I’m pretty confident that they’ll step in to help. Well at least that’s based on my personal experience (another different issue I had in my life).

This is what you expect from a developer that build for the “masses” …..with such pricing and location dont expect too much la lol

If every owner go to lodge police report and things will getting out of control.
I think this like a time bomb just don’t know when to explode.
With so many complains, you think state/federal government will not steps in?

Great job guys, however nothing will change until the contract quota are meet.
Hence i’m enjoying CNY soon to see next month this OI talk in loop da loop.

I think of 1 idea. if anyone of OI buyer have friend working at the media, try ask their help to make a story of this and publish in newspaper. if the issue not big enough, no body cares. Movies also got teach la, media is the best way to pressure the authority to do their works.

@storm

You are right in saying the relevant authority is not doing their work. Like the
homestay issues will not be solved unless the relevant authority is doing their
work instead of just waiting for paychecks and holidays.

At the end, the owners pay the price. Please avoid the project that start with one.

How is the latest status? Any progress in dealing with this issue?

No change. Need to pay Rm1200 to hire high class rubbish collector.

@Alvin

regret buying ideal’s project. if i can reverse time and choose again, i definitely will not buy any of ideal’s project! they don’t even care about owners’ complaints and kept saying they cannot do anything. our security guards also listen to those samseng! LOL

developer also like this, police also like this!

@kie

Did u manage to get reply from Ideal CEO? What is his/her email address?

I will buy subsale when GC no longer there.

Do we hv whatsapp group for owners? I myself made police report and police officers have been follow up with me. But, we need more owners facing same problem willing to step out.

Alvin :
Do we hv whatsapp group for owners? I myself made police report and police officers have been follow up with me. But, we need more owners facing same problem willing to step out.

hi Alvin,
what about using the FB page as platform?
has the police been positive so far?
i am just returning from outstation. i have not approached or been approached by the GC so far. but when i encounter them i will probably lodge report too.

Penang infested with Gangster contractor, they even threaten my contractors not to take any jobs in One Imperial else these outside contractors will needs to pay hefty sum to them.

Who sets all these rules, why can’t we get outside contractor to do the job! I have reported to Police at Bayan Lepas, my contractor now worries that they might be band from entering OI.

@Reggie
FB page is an open page so not suitable. If anyone has good idea of gathering owners together please suggest. The police is trying to help. I heard from police officers also the same GC is being complained due to same issue in other places. However, it is not easy to settle this via proper legal action. You no need to wait them approach you. You can go approach them. It is your housing area, you have the rights.

@PenangLang
They have no right to do anything to your contractors. Lodge a police report. If they dare to do anyting to you or your contractors, then police will sure interfere .

@Alvin
Here is the reply from CEO of Ideal.

“Hi Mr XXX. Our company now are coming a series of action to take care all this complain in crude talk to land owner KTM. Include terminate their contrator . Report to police. Setting up a committee to handle this issue seriously inclusive to get few buyer on board to get more constructive solution. .also we try to form up pre jmb n get ready to hand over to jmb within 6 mth from now rather then normally 1 year..
Will keep u inform on progress
Many tks”

I can FEEL they are dragging the time, if they manage to form the JMB within 6 months. they will cabut and leave all the shit to JMB.
Alex Ooi email? here is the domain name “@idealproperty.cc”
I think you can guest it….

@Alvin
There is whatapps group for one imperial resident, and i though you already in the group.

@Alvin
please contact me through mklee088@yahoo.com

mk lee, can u pls add me too? thank you very much

@Alvin
the police must be stupid or blind! why need more owners? why cant they undercover and go and find out themselves? LOL just do their damn job! police in malaysia really useless!

@Alvin

Could you please elaborate more on your point that it is not easy to settle via proper legal action? do you mean the police is also facing challenges about GC?

my email is jqyang94@yahoo.com

thanks.

Due to the long & widing outer road here, its high possibility to promote to pasar malam or bus kilang station especially DIBS projects will increase the foreign workers

Guys, I am an owner of OI. Please becareful with the OI management. What they told me is that once you submit the renovation form, regardless how small the renovation is. Once you submit, your 18 months warranty for the entire unit is VOID!!

Please take note and take legal action if needed.

@OI Buyer

Always make sure all defectives are fixed before starting your renovation.

Ish :
@OI Buyer
Always make sure all defectives are fixed before starting your renovation.

My dear friend, you are missing the point. There is no law that state that the warranty will be void even with a very minor reno. Do take note that installing grill is also considered renovation. So let’s say you install only 1 grill at the main entrance, One imperial management said that the entire house warranty is void. Would you agree with that? If you do big renovation then it’s obvious that its void.

@OI Buyer
I asked the OI staff who usually monitors defects (dressed in yellow uniform OI)
He said case to case basis…. some owners also not truthful….
Want to install water heater, without consult mgmt, or sendiri buat
Later pipe burst… said defect… pipe burst….. u think ppl blind meh… got holes or marks at tile mah…

@OI Buyer
Agreed with u.
I asked the OI staff who usually monitors defects (dressed in yellow uniform OI)
He said case to case basis…. some owners also not truthful….
Want to install water heater, without consult mgmt, or sendiri buat
Later pipe burst… said defect… pipe burst….. u think ppl blind meh… got holes or marks at tile mah…

Reggie :
@Alvin
Could you please elaborate more on your point that it is not easy to settle via proper legal action? do you mean the police is also facing challenges about GC?
my email is jqyang94@yahoo.com
thanks.

Sorry, correction: my email is jqyang94@yahoo.com.my

@MK Lee
HI mklee, I emailed u my info. Please add me to whatsapp group. Thanks

Have anyone visited the OI swimming pool recently?
It’s so damn dirty. Have been complaining to the management office since December, they keep on saying they will clean it but until today the situation is getting worse. The pool is just 3 months old but it looks like half year without cleaning.

hk – Totally agree with you. High risk to use the swimming pool this point of time. Management is getting worst. Plants also started to die. OI signature is the green nature..

I buy 13 units all left 5 units for my own stay

Consider lucky u guys only gangster creating troubles.. Surprisingly those area full of indon, nepalist and bangala didnt rob you guys…

Calvin :
Due to the long & widing outer road here, its high possibility to promote to pasar malam or bus kilang station especially DIBS projects will increase the foreign workers

foreign workers seldom disturb local ppl, only indon & vietnam girls like to cari abang.
They are better than the local ppl if u compare to mainland hindu & malays robbers will kill u anytime, quarantee u will scared.
DIBS —-> investor a lot – difficult to let go – rent out – factories – foreign workers – another ’88’ created

Agreed!!! Foreign workers have monthly incomes but local hindu and malay robbers mostly jobless, that’s why they all go to ‘bah chiow’ lah.
One of my friend stay in 88 sri aman area, very peacefull & they are very helpfull and friendly.
Pls dont condemn the F.Workers

The best choice is to avoid foreign workers nest and stay with middle income so you will not face those problem. Personally will avoid foreigner area, many rape cases heard from relative and friends. Those bangla really likes to flirt ladies so be more cautious.

daren :
Agreed!!! Foreign workers have monthly incomes but local hindu and malay robbers mostly jobless, that’s why they all go to ‘bah chiow’ lah.
One of my friend stay in 88 sri aman area, very peacefull & they are very helpfull and friendly.
Pls dont condemn the F.Workers

why want to live with foreign workers when you have other choices? or you really prefer to live with those foreign workers? so many areas now are still occupied by Chinese why don’t you spend your money wisely? you pay lotsa money just to stay with foreign workers?

Because I’m a factory engineer, due to the traffic & time concern I have no choice to stay at Zan Pavillion. 7 years ago, no LMC flats surrounded. But now totally different. If my workplace not here, I won’t stay in B.Baru place, I will choose Tanjung Bunga or Greenland area. In B.Baru & B.Lepas area, wherever u go still can see the foreign workers and Malay ppl around u. Thus, its not a surprise that f.worker become your neighbour in future

Daren :
Because I’m a factory engineer, due to the traffic & time concern I have no choice to stay at Zan Pavillion. 7 years ago, no LMC flats surrounded. But now totally different. If my workplace not here, I won’t stay in B.Baru place, I will choose Tanjung Bunga or Greenland area. In B.Baru & B.Lepas area, wherever u go still can see the foreign workers and Malay ppl around u. Thus, its not a surprise that f.worker become your neighbour in future

Well.. At least you are honest to answer.. The most scariest place is relau.. Undeniable..
No need to wait for future.. My friends, colleague and relatives who staying at relau side already having nepalist and bangla neighbour now.. Few of them already started to sell out their unit at bargain price due to the problem..

@Daren

You should move out of Malaysia. When government bring in additional 1.5M banglas, foreign workers to local one will be 1:2. Good luck.

Dato :
@Daren
You should move out of Malaysia. When government bring in additional 1.5M banglas, foreign workers to local one will be 1:2. Good luck.

must thanks to pm for making Malaysia become rojaksial.

@Dato
give you a “ZHAN” straits to the point….
hahaha

Not me, those dislike foreign worker should move out of Malaysia

Those housing not under DIBS scheme is more safe. Or else, they have to stay with foreigner & become a good neighbour lol. OI–??? Hehehe

How is the condition of the swimming pool water now? Does anyone know how regularly it will be cleaned? If the water condition remains dirty, owners should bring this issue to the management and even the developer! If there is no satisfactory solution to this problem, the developer’s reputation will be tarnished! Their on going and future projects will be adversely affected by this!

Daren :
Not me, those dislike foreign worker should move out of Malaysia

Apa lu cakep? Wa mali maleysia kija pun tabolih?

Hong :
Those housing not under DIBS scheme is more safe. Or else, they have to stay with foreigner & become a good neighbour lol. OI–??? Hehehe

Wa pun tau cakkap maley & ingerik. Cikit cikit paham. Bos kasi tingal flat relau bokan kita olang mau okeh???

@Abular

Bro, why imposter bangla?? Hahaha..

Pete :
@Abular
Bro, why imposter bangla?? Hahaha..

Wa bangla wa sarah kah?? Bangla olang tollong olang maleysia kija apa sarah??

Alicia Toe :
How is the condition of the swimming pool water now? Does anyone know how regularly it will be cleaned? If the water condition remains dirty, owners should bring this issue to the management and even the developer! If there is no satisfactory solution to this problem, the developer’s reputation will be tarnished! Their on going and future projects will be adversely affected by this!

Bolih renang okeklah. Wa kawan bangla soka renangrenang. Kita olang mandik sanak syokk wao

@Abular

Can la… nobody stopping you wanted to become one of them la.. continue continue..

Agent told me no traffic issue there, tried last 2days passing the road from paya terubong side. Guess what?! Almost took 2hours for me to reach airport. At morning, i stucked there more than hour. Really insance..

Swimming pool dirty because of owner problem, i saw many of them swim w/o swimsuits, stand beside swimming pool with shoes/slipper NOT ONLY KIDS, ADULTS TOO. I should take photo post here next time.

Why so many bangla go swimming? Is this alright? We cannot do much since there is no rules?
Complaint them but they said those bangla are the resident.. Their boss let them stay..

Haha! Pool water sure got bangla taste, so smelly!! Bangla go to pool sure have some purpose, young girls pls be aware of them.

No choice bangla also one of resident.. Too much bangla liau..That’s why i will say we will hav penang international bangla city soon..

@Alicia Toe

The guy at the management office says they clean 3 times a week.
I wonder how true is that if they really clean 3 times a week then why the pool water is getting dirty. Anyhow i went again 2 days ago and it seems improved a bit. Hope in future the OI management will take good care of the facility and not wait until the residents file complaint only take actions.

My kids not dare to swim when all of them playing around there…

Hi all, I’m actually planning on moving in to one imperial beginning of next month. Is it really the pool not clean and got a lot of foreign workers staying there?

Btw how are you guys managing internet? I spoke to TM, TIME all also say no line there yet have to wait until May at least. Looks like got no option for fixed line? Have to use mobile internet? Any suggestions from everyone?

Also does anyone have the chairman of the management or resident’s association number? I had a talk with some provider from TIME fibre broadband which can probably pull in fibre faster than May

There are many fake info and fake comments here… i doono why so many crazx people talk nonsense in property talk..

I was there at oi for 1 whole week.. i have never see any bangla using the pool and i dont see any potential bangla residents here too.. which idiot will spend so much money for their bangla worker to stay.. the bangla at oi are workers tat fixing defect and renovation.. pls use brain if you have one

@owner
hahaha they are nothing to do…….
they are like to stay OI but no money to buy and try to broke the reputation hope that price will drop down….. just i guess……
but for those visit before the OI will love the environement and facility……
it is huge land and facility…..
see it will love it…..

Suggest to form small committee group (3~5 plp) for each block to walk and inspect if any defects at common area. it is necessary to list down the defects for claims as still subjected to building warranty.

common area include:
1) walk way each floor of the block
2) car park
3) 3rd floor facilities (blue LED faulty, children swimming pool “splashing” not working, etc)
4) badminton court
5) compound at ground
6) etc

@owner
OI have 5 blocks high dense, similar case like Majestic Height now become foreigner nest. Why bangla cannot stay in OI?? Is OI your grandpa property?? Now still at BEGINNING after 1 year then u knowlah. Now bungalow also got bangla stay, u think OI is Gurney super condomeh! Now I saw a lot of phone contact banner at balcony waiting for sale. If can’t sell, rent to bangla. OK! Brainless!!!

Many people missed the fact that the 5 block are sitting on that big piece of land.. u can try to walk one time surround that 5 block.. u will then know ilhow big it is.. each block not more than 22or23 floor…

Kita bangla sudah conquer Garden Ville, Triangle & Sierra. Sekarang kita bangla minta kilang boss kita mahu masuk OI. Mula-mula 1 rumah dulu, lama-lama masuk banyak. Haha, kita bangla suka cari rumah baru sebab sewa murah sikit

@Abular
We have “kongkek” your bangla so don’t try anything funny.

Abular :
Kita bangla sudah conquer Garden Ville, Triangle & Sierra. Sekarang kita bangla minta kilang boss kita mahu masuk OI. Mula-mula 1 rumah dulu, lama-lama masuk banyak. Haha, kita bangla suka cari rumah baru sebab sewa murah sikit

u bangla super miang, super ham sap, super handsome bollyhood, super big stick u dah kongkek mayu gadis bangyak sekrang nak kongkek property condo baru pula. banyak sial sul banyak problem banyank kapala sakit ni.

Abular :
Kita bangla sudah conquer Garden Ville, Triangle & Sierra. Sekarang kita bangla minta kilang boss kita mahu masuk OI. Mula-mula 1 rumah dulu, lama-lama masuk banyak. Haha, kita bangla suka cari rumah baru sebab sewa murah sikit

u bangla super miang, ham sap, handsome bollyhood, big stick u dah kongkek mayu gadis bangyak sekrang nak kongkek property condo baru pula. banyak sial sul banyak problem banyank kapala sakit ni.

Sekarang u baru tahu kita kuat, semua tempat ada kita bangla. Kita saja mahu cari rumah murah pun tak boleh, kita mahu oi jadi rumah kampung bangla, oi banyak rumah sewa banyak murah. Ok

Kuat apa ? Bikin niaya saje. Jangan main main. Mau pergi Balai ?

Hi all…Pls ignore Abular….I have checked and no such things as this guy mentioned…

I use the OI swimming pool every week, never see bangla using the pool.
Though the pool was poorly maintained in the last months. But these 2 weeks its OK already, the water is clear now. Good job to whoever complaining to the management office ! The residents should voice up more often and push the management to keep the facilities in good condition.

Abular :
Kita bangla sudah conquer Garden Ville, Triangle & Sierra. Sekarang kita bangla minta kilang boss kita mahu masuk OI. Mula-mula 1 rumah dulu, lama-lama masuk banyak. Haha, kita bangla suka cari rumah baru sebab sewa murah sikit

Kudos to Education Ministry, even bangla now can write in bahasa you know… hahaha