Gardens Ville
Gardens Ville, part of the integrated lifestyle development by GSD Land in Sungai Ara, Penang. Featuring lushly landscaped garden at podium level, panoramic hill and sea view, club house with recreational facilities and many more. It comprises condominium units with built-up size ranging from 1,100 sq.ft to 1,300 sq.ft.
Related Project: 19 Park Residences @ Gardens Ville
Project Name : Gardens Ville
Location : Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Built-up Area : 1,100 sq.ft. – 1,300 sq.ft.
Land Tenure : Freehold
Developer : GSD Land (M) Sdn. Bhd.
Indicative Price : RM400,000 onwards
Did GSD provide the GV spec? sf to ceiling height? 2×2 tiles?porcelain/ceramic tiles? full tiles to ceilng for kitchen and toilet? I have go through PINNACLE spec,overall are pretty good,some more full tiles to ceiling height for kitchen & toilet .
@Ah Dog
wah,when the time can come with 1300sf RM250K? sure I will get 1more and never regret with recent purchase of new condos.
Yes, don’t worry. When economy downturn and price fall, a lot of buaya awaiting to cherry pick those subsale with potential good return.. but I think buaya also will prefer VP/completed units, because worry half-cook project may be abandoned.. hee hee hee….
@PG Guy
I am not meant to justify GV is better than OI. GV 10 units per floor, served by 4 lifts while OI 8 unit per floor (not sure how many lifts). For me it is not really a big different. Overally GV is surrounded by new terrance houses and near condo while OI is near some old shoplot and 2 two school which will cause some congestion during school hour. If you dun like shoplot below and dun like others to come over to ur condo, you may always go for OI. For me that will bring conveniences to me. Somemore customer’s lift and resident’s life are separated and car park at different places with different entrance. Hence, for me that won’t be a big problem but will only bring conveniences to me. In term of maintenance, of course OI is cheaper, with RM180 per month regardless of sqft but GV 0.18cents per sqft. But do consider that OI u need to share with 700++ units. This is only my personal opinion and you may always go for what u like. There is neither better or worse, it is all depending on what meet your needs more.
@Alvin
Yes. GV will have full tiles for kitchen and toilet. Toilet floor with 1 x 1 ” tiles while the rest comes with 2 x 2″ tiles. But I didn’t ask whether is porcelain or ceramic. Is that any different between the 2 and which one is better? May be later on will go sales gallery there to ask.
@Alvin
Hi Alvin, from where i can get Pinnacale specs?
@Jeanne
Hi,Thanks for providing GV spec!
And your view may not be wrong for both GV & OI. Indeed, there are schools nearby OI and there is a market next to OI tower E.
Both GV & OI have their own Pros & Cons.
But I still prefer OI to GV.
@Chuah
I can email you or you can get from their office.
@Alvin
Thanks Alvin. Could you please send it to Cheing12345@gmail.com?
anyone visit property expo in PISA?
I have gone to the sales gallery to ask, GV tiles are ceramic tiles. Any comments on ceramic tiles?? The other information is the ceiling height is 10 feet.
Hi all,
I understand this is a forum for public to discuss about properties & this post could be slightly out of the topic but this issue is a concern for those genuine buyers of the new developed properties in Relau or Sungai Ara.
Gangster contractor in new developed property
I would like to share a letter which I sent to local state administration & police below.
This is to create a public awareness that this type culture has to be eliminated if Relau/Sungai Ara wants to move forward to a more livable township.
Stay tune.
OI is a nice unit also. I have been struggling among OI, GV and Setia Pinaccle for quite some time before going for GV. Anyway, all the best to u. Wish you get what you want.
I have asked Ideal and GSD before regarding this issue. They said we can actually report this case to police and the developer doesn’t pakat with those gangster contractor. Do you mind to send me a copy of the letter? Please send to my email: cssjeanne@gmail.com. Thanks for sharing.
No problem…..sent already….developer say this is police issue…police say this is government issue….government say this is developer issue…. end up….buyer are the issue hahaha……
So ironic…..
i have asked the lawyer whether the snp does protect us from being controlled by those gangster contractor, but they said NO! nothing can be done from their side, and the only thing we can do is to get our hand together to lodge report to the police if seeing this kind of case again….. hopefully 3 years later, this thing gao dim already la…..
@penang100percent
Go to politician and have a press conference..election soon, now is good time to pressure them… Let see which side got the “hood” to settle this issue…
Actually i sent to politician…police as well but no reaction…..try to post the letter here so that can be viewed by public….but seems like the site got length limitation……. anyone care to help…i can forward the letter to you all…..
just give me your email…..
Have received your email. Thank you so much. I am not from developer site, I am one of the GV buyer. Seriously this is a big issue in Penang. My husband and I even plan to rent out the house for few years before going to renovate for own stay if there is really gangster contractor thr. But developer keep convincing me that they din pakat with those gangster and ask us don’t need to worry on this issue. For the information I get, we can always take the name card of the gangster contractor and go to police station quietly. The feedback from police is very fast and the gangster contractor will be “sambut keluar” soon within 1 to 2days provided that you go to the big police station especially Sg Patani one. Hope this will help out for those buyers.
Agree. Hope that will help and rescue all of us and even future generation from having expensive and poor renovation. But as I know some of the gangsters are actually financed by politician especially now the famous gangster 24 kiang in Penang. Cruel, is the only word can describe them. Even police also scare of them.
@Jeanne
Glad to hear that….. but don’t you think this is not a solution…… that why inside my mail i mention….we want a proactive policy to prevent it from happen instead of asking people to report…..containment only…. not a solution….
Actually there is a lot of things police & government can do to solve this….as mentioned inside the mail…..
Anyway thanks Jeanne.
I thought these kind of gansters already gone long long time ago? Still active ah? Really wish to chop away their “hood”.
@Chuah
Relau & Sungai Ara a lot lor…..their way of operations as below….
They are smart….no longer1) only 2,3,4…..
1) Setup a boot at the new site & claim that they are the authorized contractor there.
2) Not setup any visible boot but have a group of gangster “petrol” at the area & threat the owner to take their authorized contractor.
3) Stop/threat the house owner contractor from entering the site or damage the property example throw red paint, give special present or letter, steal or damage the construction
tools.
4) Join ventures with the developer to have an upgrade package on the property S&P. Legalized the “gangster contractor”.
If corruption continue, they just give some duit kopi then can get rib from being caught. Even being caught, jail for one day next day still active back. Most of the people like me not dare to fight back is because we are residents there. Anything they might go there to revenge and put our lives in danger. May be can report this case to Lim Guan Yin. I think may be he can do sth for us, penang kiang. Now Lim Guan Yin is slowly making some changes in Penang as all of us can see. Mentioned here that I am not DAP supporter. I will support anyone who can bring better changes for my life and the place I stay regardless of what party he is from.
@Chuah
sent.
@Jeanne
house price already so high…some more want to pay expensive renovation with low quality……so sad…
My post of the whole letter is awaiting penang property talk moderation maybe too long or wat……it may or may not get through….if yes….public will be able to view. Must put some pressure on government & police.
I’m not so familiar with both material. ceramic type can be the common floor tiles that used on almost apartment. And you saw the Ideal OI show house floor tiles? Quite shinning one ya? I not sure that’s called porcelain floor?
Or anyone can provide more info about floor tiles type?
Yaya..I saw that, quite grand. I online search just now, actually there is not much different between 2. But I think ceramic hardness will be better kuk. I am also not very sure on that. Hope some pakar pop out to ans this question. ^^
@Jeanne
http://www.guocera.com.my/tileguru_faq.html
Hope this can help to answer you……not promoting this brand….
No much different on this 2 types…just depend on the personal preference on the surface finishing & pattern…..
Thanks for your info. Just known that even cleaning tiles also need so much knowledge. Need to do more research to prepare for tiles cleaning 3 years later. ^^
Thanks a lot
@penang100percent
Thanks for your info. Just known that even cleaning tiles also need so much knowledge. Need to do more research to prepare for tiles cleaning 3 years later. ^^
@Jeanne
neighbour, you are in which floor???
is tower A already on sales?
Yaya, tower A has started soft launch on 20th November. I bought Tower A, 11th floor. How abt u?
i bought tower B 26th floor with 2cp… how much is ur psf? u are getting 8% rebate?
@pengemis
Yes, pretty slow and don’t know developer will extend it or not.
Anyone know how was the response for Tower A?
If able to get 8% rebate, shld be abt 416.54 per sqft. I get one extra car park at rm12500 due to early bird rebate. Ur second car park purchase at how much? Just book few days ago, still pending loan application.
@ JY
I went to the sales gallery on ytd, the response for Tower A is not really that good. The sales is almost the same as 3 days ago when I book the unit. Still left quite a number of unit, but then the official launching day will be on 8th dec. Now is only soft launch. Too many projects launch at the same time. Even OI also left quite a number of units.
The sign board for show house already there for 2-3 months now, why still no progress?
Wow! now a day “somebody” is wandering around at Sg. Ara area….so love to stay together with Banglas and Indons?
@Tony Starks
Just want to know whether they can climb wall or eat dog meat or not la.
Guys just a quick question, once sign S&P we pay 10%, however before they stamping of S&P can they collect Progress Payment
@Jason Wong
No. The progressive payment should be from your bank to the developer. You will only start serving your loan after the bank fully released the loan or after 3 years of your S&P stamped date.
@PG Guy thanks for your reply,
but i think u misunderstand, what i meant was can the developer ask me for let say another 10% Progress payment (as my loan is not 90% but only 50%) as they have completed the foundation n ground works but the S&P is yet to be stamped.
@Jason Wong
No, they cannot collect 2nd payment before the SPA is stamped. But, once it’s stamped, they can collect 2nd, 3rd or even the 4th payment at 1 go from you according to the progress of the construction.
BIG price drop coming ….
Penang’s economy slowing down, says Deputy Finance Minister
GEORGE TOWN: Penang’s economy slowed down in the first nine months of the year, Deputy Finance Minister Datuk Donald Lim said.
Compared with the state’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth of about 5% in 2008, the first nine months of this year showed a drop to 1.8%.
He said the poor GDP record this year has put Penang in seventh position in the country, behind states like Johor which had a GDP of 6% that exceeded the national GDP.
“I’m surprised that Penang has done so poorly.
Interesting…….
@Aah Dog
Overall Budget 2012 allocates RM232.8bil. How much Penang state got? Answer is less than 1%, some development are actually supporting by private funds not from federal gov. Where is the 99.XX% budget go? Hey you need to know because that was your money and to be your debt as well in future? Politicians talks, you also can believe…. very interesting.
Ya, especially from the month of a Donald Duck!
How about the crime statistic? I am sure he will say Johor is the safest state in the nation one la.
Penang’s economy slowing down,
bad news for greedy developers & speculators (bloody daylight robbers squeezing penangites dry till the last drop …
Bubble going to burst …. price come tumbling down
Then J n J loss his biz or job
Wan tan noodle cost rm3 at penang, but cost rm5 at johor. This is so call increase of GDP and ppl force to face the higher inflation.
@WTH
during the last economy downturn 1997, i saw the price of properties also significantly drop. Also, a lot of bankruptcy and lelong houses when the BLR shot up (max at >12%). Who said buy properties can anti-inflation?
when the RM depreciate from RM2.50/USD1 to RM3.80/USD1 in 1997/98, the price of properties fall also. How to properties hedge again currency depreciation? BS lah..
This time going to be world recession so all the country economy will be collapse. So our money and USD going to be same la depreciate la
Whoever in power if they let economy collapse meaning their power will be collapse, if u are Obama or Najib would u let it to happen? The answer is no. Nowadays a lot of internal trading, meaning fake news to manipulate the share, so that they can earn money, money and money! Economy up and down is normal la, when economy up people invest cause can get money when economy down people also buy from low to keep until high then sales! Just relax and buy or invest according to what u afford!
@Pen1
Let experts answer your question.
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/the-smarter-mutual-fund-investor/2011/04/13/3-investments-to-fight-inflation
http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2011/03/01/seven-ways-to-beat-inflation/2/
you should seek investments that you believe are undervalued and likely to go up in value over the long haul. That’s how you keep your portfolio growing. real estate should one of the investment in your portfolio.
That your choice if your do not trust whos were already gone through the processes and you think you are better than them.
I like these quotes a lot:
What you have today, it was what you had decided yesterday! What you will have tomorrow, is what you are deciding now!
@Pen
yes , including becoming a bankrupt tomorrow (when bubble burst) … ha ha ha
Luckily Malaysia not there yet during the Great Recession, else you will use it as example to scare people. So predictable.
@WT H
Well, if you think you will go bankrupt during the bubble just because of holding 1 or 2 properties in hands. Then that’s you not the general. Handing power is everything.
@PG Guy
Economy crisis the BLR will go down la please, 12% is the peak of economy at 1997 and it fall down when it is at the peak. This is different case from now where the economy is still low not the peak. Dunno please don’t simply tembak !!
@Bullshit
BLR peak at 12.27% during June 1998… see the link.
http://www.blr.my/Historical%20BLR%20Graph.htm
Come on lar, real estate is long term investment with long term commitment. Buy if you think the price is still undervalue and not over committed. House price went down 10 or 20% is doesn’t matter. It will grow at least double after 20yrs anyway, just like your incomes if you work properly. But you never have enough money to spend even you doubled up your pay compare to 20yrs ago. While the price is 400k now mean the house price to be at least 800k after 20yrs, you can check the historical graph since u like to see graph alot. Your salary was doubled but it more difficult to buy house that time as well. You need to pay monthly installment of rm1.7k for 400k loan now or you want to pay rm3.4k for 800k loan after 20yrs? If you still think to keep the money is the best strategies, then good luck to you. Times will not stop to wait for you, only the right decision will help you catch up the times being wasted day by day.
there r many shady developers sales staff & dishonest agents givin rosy picture & misleading info to push sales … greedy vultures of worst kind.. dont b deceived by them
Hi, GV have any forum/ fb page? 😉
Some people say property market going to bull (or if retract only adjust a bit and rebound). Some people claim market is going to crash and should wait (but never mention when). This kind is argument will continue unless market really crash. If continue to bull, bear site could still continue to argue “going to crash”.
is there any units available for booking? please provide me the contact number for me to contact the person who is in-charged!! thanks
hey, go to their sales office directly ba…. bbb before its too late baby
Be careful on Maybank loan officer, RH Lee. Before that he managed to take your loan application, the service is superb. But during the loan submission or in progress, no update and superb slow. Totally different and unacceptable.
Called and were informed towel b sold out.
Booking 10K? is it correct?
How many floors ?
jy, ya after u apply, they kind of like to delay….
but still good, my loan approved yesterday……
i got to go to confirm the selling price after discount for tower A… if its really cheaper than tower B, i gonna scream in front of it sales office later..!!!
ok.. confirmed d.. price of tower A is 15k more expensive than tower B…. after all rebates…
@pengemis
So, Tower B still left many units?
In between HongLeong & Maybank, which one you all choose?
1, Both rate are same.
2, Maybank need to buy MRTA but HongLeong optional.
3, Maybank loan tenure 70 years old or max 40 years but HongLeong only 30 years.
4, Maybank locking period (3 years from 1st drawdown but HongLeong no locking period.
the lady lawyer told me u’re entitle for free s&p and legal fees only if u take up the loan with hong leong bank.. is that true?
tower b all sold out, but tower A still have 50% to go.. the SA said supposingly tower A still haven’t officially launched, so it’s consider a very good response d… haha..
panel bank in maybank, thus only maybank provide dibs, so I don’t see any reason for taking up other bank loan…
developer bear the spa n loan legal fee for all bank.. it’s stated in the booking form if I m not mistaken
For your information, the panel bank for Tower B is Maybank, while for Tower A is Hong Leong and Public Bank. Hence, Tower B owner should go for Maybank to get DIBS while Tower A owner should go for either Hong Leong or Public bank in order to get DIBS. Can I know anyone’s booking form got stated 100% DIBS or 80% DIBS? Or it is only stated DIBS?
@Jeanne
It stated 0% DIBS at the advertisement panel everywhere…
it’s only 80%
This one no show unit?? Y so laku a
anyone know the reason why the 10% payment paid to Sierra Residence (M) Bhd instead of GSD Land (M) SDN BHD? just curious.
@pengemis how come 80%?
@curious
Even SP Setia project is not paid to SP Setia is paid to their sub company. I not sure why they do like that. Maybe because if anything happen they can just declare bankrupt for the SR while the GSDLand is not affected. The main concern here is we not even know who is the owner or man behind the company, don’t know he exist or not.
they claimed that they offer DIBS until VP…. VP meaning 80% only wo…. thats the reason given by them…
@pengemis
Is it? Then when we have to start paying the interest? I tot is 100% DIBS until construction finish. Actually what is the meaning for VP?
Please go to check with GSD in details on the 80% DIBS
1) DIBS only up to 80% margin, ie if you get 90% loan, 10% of the interest you bear. OR
2) DIBS will expire at 80% completion or Date(15th Sept 2014), whichever come first.
However, I’m very sure that no such thing as DIBS 100% for GV.
For Setia Pinacle, yes DIBS 100%.
Sorry, some mistake..the date is just an example…..I just plug from air.
VP=Vacant possession, which means developer hand over the condo to you. CF (or most ppl call it OC), sometime come together with VP, but mostly 1~2months after VP.
After VP, your installment, maintenance fees and other fees started.
If I am not mistaken, VP is at 80~90% of the progressive schedule. And the first 10% is the downpayment during signing the SPA. So, I guess it is not much different between the 80% and 100% DBIS, I guess.
@Bryan
You guess it wrong. VP=100% completed and hand over the keys to buyers. 80% DIBS is a very confusing term. It can be:
(a.) 80% of the loan amount/purchase price is subsidized during whole construction period, and buyer need to pay the rest 20% , or
(b.) subsidize interest on full amount until 80% completion of the project?
If (a), then there will be differences. If (b), I think it is the same. The last ~20% of the construction progress is almost done at the same time one. Can check the progression schedule in any SPA.
@Bryan
I thought this 80% DIBS topic already been discussed in One Imperial thread? The last 20% progress including service roads and facilities, and also involve regulation compliance with various government departments. It will take several months (can up to 7 or 9 months?) to obtain OC (VP). There is a lot of difference, the interest payment alone easily cost you RM1,400 per month (RM400K x 4.2% P.A.) while waiting for VP.
@WTF
Yes, have some discussion earlier in OI thread.
Last time OI provide 80%DIBS until VP. I heard that it may take up to 3 to 6 months for the last 20% construction. Within this period, buyers have to pay the interest as what you mentioned.
Yes. I think I am getting old and start losing memory. I checked the posing again and paste it here as reference for everyone. This is base on the SPA of D’Piazza, it I remember correctly this time.
10% – SPA
20% – Ground work (piling & foundation)
35% – Reinforced concrete framework
45% – Walls, doors & window frames
55% – Ceiling, electrical wiring, plumbing, telephone trunking
65% – Internal and external plastering
70% – Sewerage works
75% – Drains
80% – Roads
92.5% – VP with water and electrical supply ready (payment to developer)
95% – Don’t know what is this, acceptance by purchaser?
100% – Same date with VP, including the 2.5% (6 months) and 2.5% (18 months warranty) pay to lawyer.
It is still correct that the last 20% is done as the same time. Just, from the 80% to VP, by the date of the letter, it took about 8 months.
I’m curious that the GV banner stated 0% DIBS everywhere. Is it applied to latest Tower A only? When stated 0 % DIBS, that means the interest should be fully absorbed by developer until VP. Correct me if I was wrong.
both towers same package on the DIBS… DIBS till VP… just that in SnP, u will notice that it only shows until 80% nia… even in your loan docs…
i am wondering, besides me, any buyer here is also buying this gardens ville for own stay?
i have a question here… now i have sign loan i have sign snp…. but how can i ensure my SnP being stamped on time? can the developer keep delaying the stamping date?
@pengemis
The developer can delay as long as they want. If you cannot wait, you can withdraw from this project and they will refund you with forfeit of 5k for processing fee. That is our government law for us to buy house.
@LOL
i see…. thats really a trap… i gonna folo up very closely baru boleh…..
@LOL
but on the other way, can i request the developer to delay my stamping date due to some personal reason?
@pengemis
Hey, want to confirm, is that the 21 days including stamping for S&P? I tot we just show them the offer letter for loan and sign S&P within 21 days alr can get extra 1% rebate.
not including stamping date… as long as u get offer letter and pay downpayment balance within 21days, u are entitled for the additonal 1%..
I am not too understand ur statement. Y u scared the S&P doesn’t being stamped on time?
I am not too understand ur statement. Y u scared the S&P doesn’t being stamped on time?
@Jeanne
The 3 yr completion period is from stamping date, so if its not stamp then they can keep on delay, just in case cannot sell
I wouold prefer to buy from SP Setia – Pinnacle based on all the problems you ppl are facing… go to Gurney and book your units…..there is still city view available and 9% rebate….and cancel GV please….
If 80%DIBS no different with 100%DIBS,why need to stated 80%DIBS in S&P? Don’t misslead other people, it may cause you extra RM1.4k per month during last year of the construction and may stuck with cash flow problem. Talk to a lawyer if you don’t believe. Don’t fully trust the talk here.
when you regret and want to withdraw, developer can tell you it already submitted to authority for stamping..no way you can withdraw except lost the full 10% deposit..think carefully before you sign S&P, it is a trap.. talk to your own layer if not believe.
From SNP date to Stamping date,it can be how long?
But the sales ppl told me tat once signed snp they will quickly do stamping d wor… Btw is this developer thrustworthy? Is the quality good?
many ppl said no… but some how i would say depend on luck de… even sp setia property will have quality issues as well……
for the stamping issue, it exist there… what we buyer can do is just keep call them and complain….
Check the Sierra Residence thread for the SnP stamping progress for benchmark.
@Hunnyshinez
If they say sign SnP then go stamping, then you can call the lawyer to ask for a copy of the,stamped SnP, it’s ur rights to receive one once its stamped. Make sure when u collect the front page there clearly will indicate
how long did sierra residence delay the stamping date?
check for yourself here: https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/09/sierra-residences/
@pengemis
You have signed ur S&P right? Do you notice that the tiles size is not stated inside the S&P? I am thinking should we request GSD to state properly the tiles size by coming out another letter as I have consult the lawyer but she said the S&P is standard and cannot add anything inside unless GSD come out another letter. The other thing is sauna/stim room. The sales person GV has sauna/stim room but inside S&P didn’t state this facility. Have you questioned GSD regarding this issue? I am thinking to request GSD to come out another letter to state clearly about all these things but thinking if able to gather more buyers, the percentage of success will be higher. Any GV buyers interest on that? or you all just don’t care on the spec provided.
I m willing to help on anything to make sure my future house is good
@Jeanne
I dun care about the specs. Will sell once OC obtained.
@Alvin
lol.. any idea how to rush for the stamping date?
I thought u r OI buyer. U gt purchase any GV unit??
I went to sales gallery to meet the general manager just now. She said the reason the tiles size din’t state inside is because that is subject to change in the case that there is no stock for 2 x 2 ” tiles. However, even there is out of stock and replace with other tiles size, the quality of the tiles will be equivalent as promise and not cheap cheap tiles. The other thing is sauna/ stim room and club house. She said will have that although not stated inside the S&P. For what she explained to me, inside S&P only state the basic facilities, they have the other BOQ that counted the stim/sauna room, club house and other facilities which is not stated inside the S&P but classified as common condo’s facilities. She claimed that the spec and facilities of GV will not disappoint us as many of the stuff also purchase GV. Should we trust them? Anyone can advice me? Is that normal for all condos or only happen in GV?
@Jeanne
marketing strategy..
btw, if u see them again, ask them on the committed stamping date
There’s not only one Alvin in this talk. I got the offer letter from GSD before their 1st launch
of tower B but I didn’t go & queue for any unit
Haha…yaya…after i posted realize that that “Alvin”‘s photo and ur photo are different. Sorry for mixing that out.
okok.. I think will meet them soon as I am going to sign S&P on this week, will update u later. But I think ur stamping date should be different from mine, or GSD will collect all buyers from Tower A and Tower B only stamp together? I am not sure, will try to clarify that with GSD.
@Jeanne
Better get black & white stated inside the S&P. Should not be difficult to add in the facilities if GSD is sincere. Some how there is a page in the SnP for listing down the facilities and spec, including tile size. Really ridiculous lah to say 2×2 tiles may be out of stock. What kind of project planning is that?
May be you can officially write in to GSD ask for a committed date for SnP stamping. Tell them clearly if the SnP not been stamped within 3 months, you may cancel your checque and the deal deems invalid. Post with registered mail and copy the lawyer firm and Housing Development Ministry. Hope that help.
Yalor, i also feel that. But then GSD said many people alr signed S&P. The S&P format must be standard and it is impossible for them to do a special one for me. The club house exist in the model house but yet not stated inside the S&P. She keep convincing me to feel relief and GSD will do what as they promised. Her face turned black when I said I want a black & white copy of their detail spec. The other thing is the ceiling height is not stated inside the S&P as well. Anyone can advice me on that? Do you have any experience in purchasing house before. Does all the things I mentioned state clearly in S&P?
@Jeanne Which tower did u buy? Do you have the specs to share?
@Jeanne
Last time I bought a condo also missing detailed layout drawing and some facilities inside SnP. I refused to sign the SnP and the developer agreed to add in the requested info without a word. It is your right to ask for it. People come and go in the developer office. After few years who remember what and who has made some promises? Better get black & white before sign the SnP.
Pls dun trust on words. Get everything black and white. Last time when they promoted SR, brochure and staffs oso said got sauna room but in the end lawyer said no sauna room when I asked during sign SnP.
@Zzz
I bought Tower A. If you want can drop ur email here. I can send one copy to u.
@SR and @ryan
Thanks for your comment, I think I will drop by the office again to ask. Bet, I curious is that I am the only one look so serious on S&P black and white or any other GV buyers same as me. Perhaps able to gather more buyers and make a request on it.
@pengemis
Do u check ur S&P? Do it state tiles size, club house and sauna/stim room inside it?
The other question to ask, about the list and description of recreational facilities provided, is that subject to change? Or the developer should provide that as stated in S&P?
The manager has agreed to add in whatever facilities and spec as they promised in my S&P but she said will add in the clause (All items mentioned above are subjected to variations, modifications and substitutions as recommended by Architect). Curious y facilities are subject to change? Is that making sense?
@Alvin
Can u send me Setia pinaccle spec? I want to compare see what kind of information i should add inside my S&P.
Never trust the sales people…..everything included the property spec must be inside the S&P…if not means they dare not to commit & can change in the future….. but again….if this is GSD style…then there is nothing you can do…..as what i saw your reply on the GSD GM answers ” a lot of people had sign the S&P”…..
” in the case that there is no stock for 2 x 2 ” tiles” what a big joke there are a lot.. a lot of tiles supplies in the market. Personally, I can’t accept that statement.
my comment to you on the S&P stamping date….I think it will be another 1 year…. as SR just stamp few months back only…. but purchase last year…..again GSD & ideal style.
GV might take another 4 to 4.5 years to complete.
If you purchase a unit during construction in progress…then S&P will be stamp ASAP.
first time heard about that funny clause “All items mentioned above are subjected to variations, modifications and substitutions as recommended by Architect”. Does that means they can change it to LMC if Architect recommend it? You can take the Boulevard condo buyers experience as reference: https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/02/meridien-residence/comment-page-1/#comment-27356
Good luck.
@Ang Mo
Haha, that meant all items have not yet been finalized lo. GSD rush all buyers to sign S&P 1st then anything will be “belakang kelak”.
@SR and @ryan
Thanks for your comment, I think I will drop by the office again to ask. Bet, I curious is that I am the only one look so serious on S&P black and white or any other GV buyers same as me. Perhaps able to gather more buyers and make a request on it.
Most of them are investors?
Project not yet approved how to stamp?
@PG Guy
If project not approved, they can sell??
Let me check
Wow I can’t the approval for this company GSD Land. Unless they use another name cause I check from the council website can’t find.
http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Carian_Projek.cfm
http://www.epbt.gov.my/OSC/Proj1_Info.cfm?Name=321375&S=S
@ Can you help email specs to sarah1_1haras@ hotmail.com
@Jeanne
who can show the snp specs for setia pinnacle? wan to see whether those reputatable developer SnP is really that detail and tokong!…
I have seen that. It is really in detail and the specs they provide are obviously very much better than GV…
I check by using Sierra Residences (M) Sdn Bhd. The record come out is only terrace houses and LMC houses. Don’t think the project Garden Ville has been approved for the time being or may be the system is out of date.
@Jeanne
I thought it’s this?
CADANGAN UNTUK MENDIRIKAN : PARCEL 1 i) RUMAH TERES 3 TINGKAT (19 UNIT) ii) KEDAI PEJABAT 1-2 TINGKAT (22 UNIT) iii) 24 TINGKAT PANGSAPURI KOS SEDERHANA (476 UNIT) DENGAN KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DAN 5 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ATAS LOT-LOT 30 DAN 608, MUKIM 10, DAERAH BARAT DAYA, PULAU PINANG.
yaya…does that means the Garden Ville project hasn’t been approved? As I went through Setia Pinaccle spec, inside didn’t state that the spec is subject to change. I think they have finalized that kuk…GV one I think waiting to be finalised..hehe…Anyone can advice on that?
may i know what is the best rate & from which bank u guys get?
This project is approved but under SIERRA RESIDENCES (M) SDN. BHD.
Reading from last page of the Garden Ville brochure,
Building Plan No. MPPP/OSC/PB(4087)/11(LB)
Semakan Pemohonon
http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Carian_Mohon2a.cfm
Jenis Permohonan : Cari di semua Jenis Pemohonan
No. Ruj. Permohonan : MPPP/OSC/PB(4087)/11(LB)
PBT / OSC : Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang
MPPP/OSC/PB(4087)/11(LB) : CADANGAN UNTUK MENDIRIKAN: a. 1 BLOK PANGSAPURI KOS SEDERHANA 31 TINGKAT (323 UNIT) TERMASUK 1 TINGKAT RUANG KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DAN 5 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN b. 1 TINGKAT KEDAI PEJABAT (18 UNIT) DI ATAS SEBAHAGIAN LOT 608, MUKIM 10, JALAN KG. BATAK, RELAU, PULAU PINANG oleh TETUAN SIERRA RESIDENCES (M) SDN. BHD. di Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang
actually what kind of condo only considered as KOS TINGGI PANGSAPURI? why kind of facilities needed?
@SC
Hlb
4.2%
30 years
How about others?
@pengemis
Even Setia Pinnacle selling 700K++ is considered medium cost.
So what do you think?
https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2012/07/setia-pinnacle/
MPPP/OSC/PP(2088)/12(LB) : CADANGAN PEMASANGAN TANDAS DALAMAN BAGI :- CADANGAN MEMBINA : I. 1 BLOK PANGSAPURI KOS SEDERHANA 39 TINGKAT (434 UNIT) DENGAN PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA 7 TINGKAT II. 1 UNIT PONDOK PENGAWAL DI ATAS SEBAHAGIAN LOT 634, 635 & 20002, MUKIM 10, DAERAH BARAT DAYA, CHANGKAT SUNGAI ARA 6, PULAU PINANG oleh TETUAN KEWIRA JAYA SDN BHD di Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang
HLB same as urs.
MB still pending and the loan staff told they can offer -2.4% but still waiting for the approval.
PBB -2.3%, appeal for better rate nw.
@Janiel
Any one already sign snp?
i signed it during on the same day of purchasing… but havent stamped…
How much psq?
@pengemis
Do the management promise when to stamp the snp?
they only told me in dec…
I don’t meant to pour cold water on u all but this is the style of GSD & Ideal base on past record….. unless u all gather together & press the developers……
I predict they will say stamping snp within 3 to 6 months……… but
by end of 2nd quarter next year they will say got some processing issue/ everything in progress, be patient…..bla bla bla so might be delay for another 1 to 2 months……
so end up start stamping on next year 2013 Aug to Oct……
The developers will also told you don’t worry…
we will complete the project eventually & the price will definitely appreciated.
Developers will use a lot of buy time technique & excuses to comfort & delay the buyers…..
B4 sell & after sell attitude are different……
I’m not saying everyone shouldn’t buy GV but the buyers should be united & put hard pressure on the developer to change & improve.
Ask them to commit the snp stamping date by ????? in black & white..if they miss the date….give compensation in terms of rebate/ discount to the buyers…. if GSD can do so….then i would probably change my point of view on GSD or Ideal as a good & professional developer….. anyway just my personal 2 cents……..
well said…
nx week i m going to GSD and ask again… for those buyers, lets keep continue to push this developer to the max…..
Hi, I’m going to sign S&P next week, can you all please share what is the detail spec that needed in S&P? Thanks
@JY
The spec is subject to change. So what is inside is not that important also as it might change in future. Most important is the facilities. The sauna room is missing out. I have requested GSD to come out another official letter claims that they will have sauna room and will go and take this evening. Will update u all about the official letter claiming the facilities of GV. Hope GSD din state subject to change inside the official letter or else that is only one rubbish paper. ^^
do we have a lobby for GV?
i am not sure wo…inside brochure like didn’t mention about that. But then will have club house all those things la…may be later go GSD to ask..
Thanks Jeanne, please update me once you get the official letter from GSD. thanks for sharing
hey, anyone knows whats the name of the double storey terrace in front of the GV site?
@pengemis
Looks like not yet launch. Those units with garden also not for sale yet
@ZZ
haha.. still got developer build first-sell later one?
@pengemis
I have no idea on build first sell later devp. but seems like shoplots, lowest floor with garden units and 3storey houses are not open yet
@pengemis
Siara 81….Sub sale now asking now asking for between RM930k to RM 1 mil
We will have lobby for GV; seperate dobby for Tower A and Tower B. Regarding the official letter, GSD has committed GV will have sauna room, reading room and all other facilities listed inside the brochure. For those GV buyers, I think may be you can request to have the official letter as well ( To have more proof in case GSD didn’t keep the promise).
@Jeanne
Did you get the letter already? Can share?
@Jeanne
Well Jeanne! You are doing well for chasing GSD to make everything’s clear! Give you a Like!
@ZZ
Yaya. I get already. You may leave ur email. I can send one copy to u.
@Alvin
Haha. Thx thx. I think now whole GSD know me already. They keep asking me when wanna sign S&P and even want to help me make arrangement with lawyer. Haha…By the way, going to sign S&P on this sunday. Hope everything can settle by this week.
To all GV buyer, may i know anyone get BLR-2.4 with 90% loan from Public bank? Mostly which banks are you all taken?
@Jeanne
great great jeanne….
i get maybank blr -2.5 first year, -2.45 second year, -2.4 for the remaining years… tenure 40 years.. lock in 3 years….
when you sign your snp, its time to push them for committed STAMPING DATE. this is actually more more important..
Thanks Jeanne for your effort, can you send me one copy ? my email : jy_amy@yahoo.com
Can I know whether we need to pay stamp duty for the Gv project?
@pengemis
Hi, i bought tower A. According the HLB, for this package the one benefiting is the developer. True or not? Since on 80% DIBs.
@Jeanne
Can send me a copy of the letter too? parn.prop@gmail.com
Thanks
Hi Parn, which floor?
@Jeanne
Hi, can sent me a copy of your letter as well? Thanks.
Yew_2004@yahoo.ca
@jeanne… Can pls sent me the letter too??? Thnks…
80% DIBS…. we rugi almost 5-10k
Heard that MBSB offering 100% DIBS
@Hunnyshinez
Please leave ur email here.
Can I know are you all buying for own stay or for investment purpose?
GSD can’t give the exact date. But then they say mostly will take abt 1 month for stamping as the S&P have to go thru few depart in GSD for them to sign only pass back to lawyer for stamping. Please inform us if ur S&P has been stamped. hehe..
oh gosh! the Prime Minister promised 20,000 Pr1ma units will be sold 40% lower than market price…Pr1ma only RM300,000 only for typical RM500,000 houses. I think I will onhold to sign snp and wait for Pr1ma.
Then how abt ur 1% rebate? I tot Pr1ma unit will oni available if BN success to take back Penang? Correct me if that is wrong.
nope. If BN take over only add on the monorail. Pr1ma is On regardless who take charge. Those buying 1st house with salary between 2.5k till 7.5k just drop any purchase and look for this chance of a life time.
Sry for those flipper. Sure get burn in coming few years down the road.
RM5k for the 1% discount Vs RM200k saving for Pr1ma. I am gonna wait.
@david
Najib already announced Pr1ma for KL area Sungai Buloh, Sungai Besi….since last year. Does KL property drop or up since last year?
Just to share one beautiful term and condition of Prima, I am not sure whether those applying for it aware of this or not:
“The website may not be available to be accessed from all regions, state and countries of the world. PR1MA reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to limit or terminate your ability to access the website from certain regions, state or countries, and you assume all risk associated with the accessibility of the website from any given region or country of the world.”
hehe…
@ Jeanne.. My email is angel_ohy@yahoo.com thnks..
Is Prima only allocated for those who voted for BN in the coming election? Or is it going through open balloting?
@Buyer101
Basically is said open balloting. But then when u fill in everything and before submitting the application, there is list of T&C. The one I posted is just one of those which I feel a bit funny. If you applying for it and before submitting the application, you may take some time to go through the T&C.
This is another beautiful T&C I wish to share, just in case u all are too lazy to go through all the T&C:
“You agree that PR1MA may modify, revise and amend the terms and conditions and/or suspend or terminate the website at any time without notice.”
hehe…no matter how, I feel it is no harm to apply, I myself have submitted the application as well. Just to show u all the trick played by BN and basically Prima is full of uncertainties.
^^
@ezalor
Location: KL – what is the selling price build by developer Vs build by Pr1ma.
Populaton: KL – Definate surplus Pg
Land: KL Vs Pg
The Fact is, Pr1ma in Pg, quaranty 30 to 40% lower than market price. Question PM if “janji di tepati” tak ditepati.
20,000 houses to be build in 10 areas – Let’s said 5000 in island. Means what? Almost 6.5 OI. At least take off 50% of future buyer in 2 years.
Open for those earning between 2.5k to 7.5k means what? – Almost 90% of “future buyer” for 1st house fall in this category.
Base on above, I can said that, sub-sales = gone, flipper = gone. Rental market still manageable.
By now, I believe more than 10,000 already register. U not lossing any single sen by register, but imagine if u manage to grab 1. Simpan 10years without rental also can earn 200k AT LEAST BY THAT TIME.
Give u 10 x Likes…if lucky enuf to get one is really a good thing. Some more it didn’t restricted to those owning 1st house. You are still eligible to apply if u own a house but sorry for those has more than 1 house.
@Jeanne
I totally agree with you all….. no harm to apply…..as long as long the janji able ditepati….
With conditions
1) selling price 200K cheaper compare to current market.
2) Able to complete & not hang half way due to (Not enough money, material cost rise, contractor run away etc)
if manage to grab 1..wow….simpan 10 years to feed mosquito also worth….as its a sure win deal.