The respond was overwhelming. All the suite 1, 2, 3, 3A and 10 suites all taken up. There are all 11 type of suites in one storey and there are 20 storeys all together. Basically, about 70 percent taken up and on the Wesak day itself, 3 units were taken up by other buyers ! Are they good buy ? The salesperson was telling me that the price will go up once the showroom is available for viewing. It will most probably be ready by end of May. Really headache now ! Advise ?

RM550 psf for a low/medium cost apartment is totally out of line indeed.

Do not be fooled by the catchy name like “Straits Garden” It is not a condo at all, it is a low/medium cost apartment. The going rate for low/medium cost apartment is about RM250-RM300 psf in the Jelutong area.

@Wannabuy
what’s the discounted price? low down payment and DIBS?

I doubt they will remove the rebate lor. The target market for this kind of studio is very niche, even young couple that do not plan to have kids will stay away as the size is too small. No place for visiting guests. So the remaining target is investors buy to rent out. For $400k studio, the installment is closed to RM2000 a month, out of range for factory workers or college students (RM2000 for five rooms maybe, hehe…). And agent normally recommend area like Tanjung Tokong or Queensbay area for expats. So a bit hard to rent out also. Just my personal thoughts lar….

@Wannabuy
RM330k for 485 sq.ft studio (after RM20k discount), worth to buy? depend on personal valuation. The selling price inclusive fully furnished such as sofa, aircon, bed, wardrobe, kitchen cabinet etc etc…. however, too many units in three blocks, about 650 units in one area, really congested.

Thanks to all your comments. I will consider your valuable advice and make personal valuation on it.

Of late, I went to my friend’s open house, he renovated a semi – detached old house. Quite nice touch up, but inside, I can say it was simple. Compared to any showroom unit, I feel only 40% satisfied with my friend’s renovation. And Yes, all showroom is off course very attractive. However, to get that kind of unit, we have to double our investment. My friend’s renovation cost him RM250K, which I don’t see anything to “Wow” about. That is only renovation itself, without furniture yet.

Therefore, I am actually a middle age man, I wonder if I were to stay there with my wife only after my kids grow up, I hope to get something really luxurious and simple to handle. I don’t think it is only for young people but for those who do not want to clean their “BIG” house everyday and treat it as a retirement home. Going down and have all commercial things to buy when I am old will be helpful, rather than going around the place to shop. Market nearby the Perak Road (another market is in Jelutong after the Police Station where I like the lady’s Koay Kak) will be good enough and the Klinik Kesihatan together with the Bomba will be just a stone throw away, which might make things easier for me then.

I called the office just now and they said that the showroom will be ready in 2 weeks time. Their number is 04-3240088. I left my number and they will call me once it is done. I have grown a little impatient with the concept and after making comparison with Fettes Residences, E&O Straits Quay, The Light Collection 2, those smaller units (studio or suites) are above 850 – 1300 sqft and with renovation, it has reached over a million.

When I look at the Light Collection 2 suites, if I am not mistaken, a 500 sq ft unit unfurnished was RM300K (1-2 years ago when they launched) and people are quoting RM500K-RM600K now. I admit that I had miss the boat then but looking further, Straits Garden and The Light is different. One is staying beside the coast and another is in Jelutong with market and Klinik Kesihatan.

It is not actually three blocks with 650 units. It is four blocks in that area. However, the Straits Garden is only on its own block, another block is LMC, which is located behind, then another is Apartment with 27 storey. Adjacent to the suites is the condominium units with 31 storey but it is also located inside, not beside the main road.

Therefore, for genuine purchasers, I think we should go to the showroom to view first before making decision, but for me, this kind of suite does not come often, I think I dread of thinking owning one everyday, therefore, I will will be there to book a unit soon.

The downpayment is RM5000 for the lawyers and if loan is not approved, they will refund everything. Unless we decide to cancel, they will forfeit RM1000. Thereafter, it will be DIBS (free interest until completion, except during the renovation) Loan might reach only 80% because this is the commercial unit and I like it small because I don’t have to pay very high in maintenance fee to enjoy the facilities. Eventhough it is 0.25 cents per square feet, a 404 sqft suite will cost me about RM100 per month to enjoy all the gym, swimming pool and peace of mind rather than other condo which needs to pay 0.18 cents for a 1300 sqft condo which will end up paying RM230 per month. I can save from there to pay my instalment !

Lastly, thanks for your opinions and I have decided on what to do now.

Hi Wannabuy, you and i had the same perception. As i mentioned already, the overall amount to own a unit in Penang Island is relatively low with this project. Same is true for the Maintenance. This is possible because of the small size unit.

Paying RM300K++ now is maybe easier than paying [RM300K + Inflation] in year2015 later.
I always ask my friend, can you get RM300K unit in 2015 later in Pg island?

So, that is how I made my decision and went ahead to book a unit already.
So, see you future neighbour in year 2015.

@ProspectBuyer
I book one unit too, 485sf, however, dun know the quality of furniture that developer provide, i can”t wait to see the show house which available for viewing from 19 May 2012 onwards. 2 tyeps of show house are 485sf & 612sf, developer says ‘what u see what u get’.

up to date, all units of 411 sq ft & 610 sq ft have been sold out, very good respond.

clearvision :up to date, all units of 411 sq ft & 610 sq ft have been sold out, very good respond.

Looks like Penangites can accept small one room apartment lor. Really want to know how much rental for studio like this can fetch. But I think most buyers bought to flip kua. Hehe…

Money sucker TI. I don’t think this location is prime for business and commercial activity. Unlike KL city center this kind of design can be rent to expats working in city center. However in Pg, no expats will stay in this area and most of them are retirees living in Tg Bungah and Tg Tokong. All SOHO units, who will be your next buyers? Fresh grad from Uni? or expats? Haha ….

@wbk
depend on personal perception, i like small unit studio apartment because easy to manage & save time for housekeeping, i m single & seldom stay at home (doing marketing job), no need a big house. In addition, the studio is fully furnished (include electrical items), for lazy & busy person like me, i save a lot of time to do renovation, just bring clothes to move in

@vampire
One of my colleage also bought this studio because he is transferred from KL to work in Penang, the small studio apt or condo will become more & more popular because many single persons perfer smaller type of home. Ya, the price is high & expensive, for eg, i buy 485 sf is RM330k+ (after 20k discount), but developer adsorb bank interest during construction & free legal & SnP plus fully furnished, i think still worth to buy. For monthly maintenance of 25 sen per sq ft or about RM120, i can enjoy the facilites provided.

For location, i did the survey, there got clinic, restaurant, wet market, bank nearby, it’s convenience, however, traffic along Jalan Jelutong a bit congested, try avoid to use this road during peak hour.

@clearvision

Studio apartment sure is very popular for single and available lar. Hehe…

Might want to check out their show unit this week liao…

@clearvision
Great decision. I believe the purchasers of this project is high class people and I think you don’t mind of renting them or sell them later. I am also can’t wait to view the showroom and I wonder what are the unit left to purchase.

Wannabuy :@clearvision Great decision. I believe the purchasers of this project is high class people and I think you don’t mind of renting them or sell them later. I am also can’t wait to view the showroom and I wonder what are the unit left to purchase.

Define “high class” please… Hehe..

@wbk
i think what “wannabuy” mean of high class is “high income earner”. I buy this mainly for own stay, investment is 2nd. When made the booking last week, the unit un-sold is about 95 units i.e. 59% already booked.

For show house, the staff told me that not available for viewing this week & may postponed to early June.

@clearvision
for 485sf 10th floor: RM350k, after discount is RM330k, assume deduct RM50k renovation + RM10k for electrical products such as TV, Fridge, Washing Machine, heater etc, the unit price is RM270k or Rm556 per sq ft in Jelutong area, I think may consider it, anyway, still don’t know what type of furnitures provided by developer, looking forwards to see the show house.

A lot of self-boosting posts by the developer here, really beh tahan….can share a bit of the negative aspects for potential buyers to consider? After you discover the bad aspect of the project and you still go for it, then only you won’t regret the decisoin.

@Crystal ball
i wanna know what is negative aspect of this project before official sign the SnP end of 2012. I have paid Rm5k booking fee, dun know it is right decision to buy or not. I still waiting to see the show house, if not satisfy with the quality & design, i may cancel it, and, RM1k forfeited, i m prepared for it.

oh yes, how did u know which comment is posted by developer itself? Is it positive comment posted consider as developer did it? i have read all the comments at this forum and went to site survey the location before making decision to buy. Any point or reason to share not wise to buy the unit here? I really appreciate u can share your opinion.

@clearvision

Ya, I have paid RM5000 for deposit too and its under legal firm (SAN & Associates) – to show my sincerity that I have actually booked. I am really excited over it and I have actually asked thoroughly about the renovation. The salesperson told me that the smallest unit renovation will be closed to RM70K + RM10 K appliances. (That’s what they have calculated, according to them for the smallest unit – 404 sqft). The 390+ sqft units were all taken up, and I suspect those are better units because it is located at the corner and the shape is more in square. The cost of renovation will increase by size but he can’t tell me the renovation cost for other size unit.

I called them about the showroom and they delayed it to next month. It seems that we have to wait. Despite that, I am really excited over it to see what I will get for what I pay for.

Actually, I am staying in Greenlane at the moment and Jelutong is indeed very near to me. What I am really excited over is the fully renovated idea. I came across a lot of hassle of identifying defects of new houses and monitoring renovation work by sub-contractors assigned by developer when a project is done. Maybe other projects are not that bad, but I am a lazy bug who does not like all the pushing, chasing and nagging others to do a job if a job is given to them. However, some are doing a great job too.

If the renovation is not up to mark, I can go straight to the developer and complain. I don’t have to negotiate, ask for better discount, the contractor giving low quality materials etc but I just need to go to a contact point to raise my concerns. I think the developer will save too and provide us the ease of mind too. No more middle man that we have to go through and I hope TI won’t disappoint us with the very first of its kind in Penang of “What you see is what you get”.

What I really hope is that they do properly on the window rails and curtains, with carpet at certain areas, wallpapers hopefully, possibly a bathtub for the 593 or 600+ sqft suite, classy glass door or wall etc…..oh! gosh….I am really over the moon.

Anyway, like all you say, of course we have to prepare for the worse. What happens if they don’t have this or that. Then, when it is ready, they don’t do this or that. I think basically I cannot worry so much but just hope to see the showroom unit first and move from there.

Oh ya, can we remind them to consider making a classy bathtub ? Do you all prefer to have long bathtub ?

@Monster
thanks for your advise, i m not an easy influence by certain people comment. Ya, i also notice Crystal Ball goes to give negative comment on many project, anyway, i don’t care what he did, the buyers are smart & mature, will analyse which is true or wrong.

Most the negative aspects in this forum comment of the developer overpriced the unit or selling price too expensive, ya, i agree what they say, but what to do, most projects launching in Penang nowsaday are very expensive, as a result, i only can afford to buy small unit with around RM300k home sweet home at the strategic location which close to my working place.

If buyer think it is expensive & not afford to buy, why not search for another projects, there are many choices in Penang island & in mainland, depend on personal affordable & interest (choice of location & type of home). And then share in this forum, therefore buyer can make comparison.

@Wannabuy
what type of unit (sq ft) u buy? developer told me there are no grill/stainless steel door in the entrance, i was feedback to them to install the grill door for security, imagine someone came to knock our main door & we are not able to see who’s coming. The staff will feedback to management to consider about it.

i do not know the unit i bought (485sf) can fit classy bathtub, base on my experience, developer probably provide shower head with heater in the bathroom, no bathtub, anyway, just wait & see the show house when get ready.

if you buy so small unit now, what if your kid grow bigger and you will have headache to find another house after 10 yrs. why not buy 2nd hand 3 rooms units for below 300k here now ? in next 10 yrs u have to invest another 400k.

one word always remember, buy a bigger house than what u need now, so that you can stay and pass on your next generation. how many times in your life you need to busy for for house hunting and moving ? for me 1 time is enough.

@Tang
I got the house with 4 bedrooms in mainland, currently rent out. The house is too big for me to stay, therefore i buy 2nd home here. I do not know what will happen in future, maybe marry & have kid(s) so stay in mainland or maybe single life so will stay in studio condo in Penang. i know price of property will continue increase in future because penang only have 17% land for development in future, therefore i buy this property for own stay, 2nd is investment.

@Tang
oh yes, is there any new condo or apt with 2 or 3 bedrooms cost about Rm300k in Penang? Pls advise the project name. Now i stay with parents, travelling from mainland to island to work quite time consuming especially heavy traffic on the bridge, therefore i need property nearby E-gate.

Marketing people busy promoting for this project.Penang market is not
ready for this kind of concept.

@clearvision
i also book one unit, smaller unit, 404 sf, ya, will feedback to developer about the grill door at entarnce.

@Predictable
The Light by IJM also got similar type of this studio, 500sf cost about RM350k (2 yrs ago), all sold out within a day. However, it is still new concept in penang, but very common in KL now.

haha..based on the comments, those who plan to buy this project are either senior citizen/retiree don’t stay with children, or single who don’t see themselves got chance to meet with ‘the other half’ in near future, or those who planned stay single for life. The size is small even for single and RM500psf is pricey. For studio unit, Wellesley Residences@Harbour Place Butterworth is larger size, better facilities and looks more high class, which only RM300psf. You may said it is located at Butterworth but it is definitely more comfortable & enjoyable.

@Crystal Ball
i do not agree with u, I treat this studio house as my vacation home & plan to stay with my beloved wife for few years, if price appreciate, i plan to sell of course, if not, just keep it. In mainland, i prefer landed property rather than condo or apt, the price of landed property still acceptable of about RM280-RM350 per sq ft.

@ST Goh
As vacation home? then why not take the more grand & comfortable Wellesley Residence but want to stay at smaller size unit at Jelutong? Just take the ferry is very convenient there. Traffic in Jelutong is bad if not terrible.

@clearvision
hi guys, i got the corner unit with 411sq ft, facing the pool area. Looking forward to see the showhouse too.

@Crystal Ball
my wife & i love cycling, we always come to Penang cycling in georgetown for “jalan-jalan cari makan” in the morning. Smaller size easy for housekeeping & low maintenance fee of about RM110 to enjoy all the facilities, good deal.

For property appreciation, i think Penang more better & faster than in Butterworth. Mainland still got plenty of land for development, but i believe, the prospect of landed property in mainland is better than condo or apt. Look at area around Jln Raja Uda, no new landed property launch, all only condo or apt project.

@ProspectBuyer
411 sf all sold out, actually i wanna book this type of unit too, why sell so fast? sigh…

This project is near to the sewage treatment plant. It stinks and
because of this it’s sold out ?

@ST Goh
what attracted to me on the 411 sf unit were:-
a. Low entry price ~RM300K to RM330k (will be cheaper after deduct RM20K rebate)
b. Low maintenenance cost
c. With (a) + (b), overall monthly mortgage is low
d. Facing poolside, where the room is not hot in the afternoon
e. Fully furnished with furniture and electrical appliance
f. Completion in 2015..so no more capital investment from now and for next 3 yrs
g. Important is a unit in ISLAND
h. Wanna pull some money out from EPF for property purchase. (In my opinion (MY OPINION ONLY), it may generate higher % return than keep in EPF. Capital appreciation in ISLAND can be higher than 6% a year – i guess. I like to know and involve in managing my EPF money than let gvment invest for me. Although its limited, but AT LEAST i have some little say to small portion of it. Hihihi. That’s my case, i may make wrong decision now but i’m prepared for it. 😉

@ProspectBuy
Your selling points sound so familiar…copy from Mutual fund sales kit ah?

@PG Mutual
Haha….interesting to know its the same. Are you a believer in this?
Manage your own money rather than let EPF manage for you.

<The Light by IJM also got similar type of this studio, 500sf cost about RM350k (2 yrs ago), all sold out within a day. However, it is still new concept in penang, but very common in KL now.

How do you compare this kampung location with The Light ?

How do you compare this kampung location with the
Light ?

@Predictable
I wish to BUY The Light @ 500sf with RM350K now (AFTER 2 YEARS). Can I?

I wish to BUY alot of other properties that were launch 2 years, 3 years, or even 5 years ago where landed properties in PG were around RM400K and located in prime location. Can I?

I wish also i have that amount of money 2 years ago so i have more options and possibilities. Can I?

I even wish to own landed property in ISLAND from E&O, IJM, SUNWAY, SPSETIA, MAHSING or IVORY. Can I afford?

If you are 1 of the IJM The Light buyer, then i congratulates you. I am not as lucky and capable like you when i was 2 years younger that time. Maybe even today, i may not have the purchasing power like you now. So, its a pity for me and its my decision. So, how to compare to The Light? So, its reality that i understood and never regrets.

@ProspectBuyer
don’t try to say until low cost apartment also can become like luxury condo la…people buying these units are for investment renting out with lower rates…fresh grad, expats and young couple buying for own stay? time will tell la…with such low rental rates i wonder what kind of people will rent and stay there….all become rojak what kind of people also have… but reasonable also lar, this is just nothing but a low cost apartment…even sg HDB or hongkong type HDB are bigger…don’t think too much la…go apply for low cost apartment better lah…almost the same price…bigger

@jerry
You are right. It was someone that trying to compare village kampung style studio unit with the grand condo of THE LIGHT by IJM. I will repeat my last sentence i posted earlier.

” So, how to compare to THE LIGHT? So, its reality that i understood and never regrets. ”

And i never expect this to be like THE LIGHT at all.

The “Main” point is most people will buy a 700 sq. ft. apartment or condo
(whichever you want to call it) rather than this one with 330k. It also
has the all the basic facilities including a swimming pool. This condo is
situated near to ” sewage treatment plant ” with stinky odor and is still
highly priced.

@ProspectBuyer

ProspectBuy, I support your idea and it’s totally logical. The Light is NOT FULLY FURNISHED at all. Therefore, I think 350K for 500 sqft is just fair, and that was 2 years ago. If we want to have a full renovation like what TI put in the brochure for the Light, someone have to put in at least RM100-120K as well. Therefore, it is the same as well. A 600 Sqft Straits Garden fully furnished is only RM450K and that is 25 level above sea level with views.

Those who work in Bayan Lepas can use the USM road and the overhead bridge near RECSAM, Bukit Dumbar road to go to this site after your work in Bayan Lepas, it will take hardly 10 minutes from RECSAM, even with a crawl. I am locally breed in Penang near Greenlane and I know the traffic where I want to go. I can use the way from LWE there from my house and it will also take hardly 10 minutes drive.

If you ask me, living in the Light will be highly rated by others, but definitely not me. There will be no wet market, no government clinic but maybe they will have high end commercial electrical shops and high end hospital. However, those are not what I wanted.

Let’s those who made the booking for Straits Garden view the showroom with comfort and I definitely feel that there will be surprises. For those who have no intention or have bought another project, enjoy your stay there and respect other decisions. I am not going to buy The Light and those who have bought the Light will not choose The Straits Garden either. For those who bought the Light wants to think Straits Garden is an apartment or whatever, let it be. I still feel that it is one of the best project.

Those who made the booking, please update each other here and who knows, we might meet each other there during the launch of the showroom. Then, we can share opinions here, like what should the developer do extra and what we are pleased with the show unit, okay ? Let’s see what’s the response when they launch the show unit, who knows, before then, all the units will be taken up and the developer withdraw the 20K rebate and those who have booked early will enjoy all the benefits. I plan to make that as my second home as well as I don’t mind NOT renting it out because I do not want others to dirty my suite with a rent of RM1000-1200. I will either sell it and gain or just leave it as my holiday homes.

I wonder how people can use Jelutong as their holiday homes compare to the light ? The feeling will be different la.

@Predictable
Depend on personal affordable lah, i only able to buy around RM300k with fully furnished property in island, ya, location is in kampung, but still ok for me, at least many cafe & restaurants surrounding. The Light of course more advantage, anyway, i am still satisfy what i get now at Jelutong.

@Wannabuy
when show house get ready to view, i wish we can meet at Tambun Indah office, i wanna developer to install grill door or better quality stainless steel door in the entrance, pls feedback to developer.

@WWF
Of course cannot compare Straits Garden with The Light, the selling price is different but the concept almost the same. Straits Garden is in heritage site, more kampung or old town feel, The Light is modern & great seascape view, both have studio units, if i hv $$ 2-3 yrs ago, i definitely booked one there.

@Predictable
one of buddy stay nearby Indah Water plant, he told me that no stinky odor from the sewage treatment plant, sometimes do not underestimate the efficiency of the Indah Water, there are many apt & condo nearby this treatment plant, if bad or serious stinky odor, the residence already came out to complain & the news can be seen from newspaper.

Like….. thumb up for you

@ProspectBuyer

Like….. thumb up for you Totally agree…. the housing cost already increase by so many % but some people still not aware of it…..

@clearvision

Don’t worry, there will be someone like to pour cold water one if you feel you like the property than can go a head…… Penang Island now is not much land left to develop they still like to compare the property years ago… so funny they forget all the building material and labour has been increase…..

@clearvision
The one your are mentioning that stay nearby the area has a problem
with his nose. Just ask the people working in and around the area. I
have a few friends staying in that area and they don’t deny the stinky
odor produce by the sewage treatment plant.

Hi, I have put a deposit for this project last month.

Im in property line. I think this project going to be good as long as the developer manage the below shop lot well.(this is my main worry)

And if im not mistaken, the developer now is negotial with the land near to highway. so in future we might hav another entrence direct from high way..this is very good and convenient and stay away from jelutong trafic.

3 yr down the road, we dun know what going to happen.. but by pass experience this kind of project going to meet our lifestyle.

Another good new for those alr book. i heard their condo price is starting from RM690K. i not sure is true or not. but if this is true then we will HUAT ar….:)

If this is the only place or condo left in Penang with no choice to choose
then I might consider. To buy a property costing RM 690k and hoping for
improvements in this and that, the answer is very clear. (Never buy such
property at this time).`

@Predictable
my friend work & stay at Solok Sungai Pinang which is about 200m from sewage plant & i always go to hawker centre nearby, i do not smell stinky odor, probably the wind direction cause i am not able to feel it that time. The Straits Garden which is located 300-350m away from this sewage plant, i think the stinky odor not so serious to feel about it.

@Predictable
maybe depend on wind direction, one of my friend office located at Jalan Lenggong, he never experience the stinky odor, Straits Garden is located opposite Jalan Lenggong, so i think it ”safe” from that smell.

For those who Reali have Crystal thinking and have Prediction mind talk what they want.

Dun let them spoil our mood… They are not going to share the news and happiness with us for the next 3 yrs, and event after completion they not going to be our neighbor…:)

why need to buy this property and everyday pray ang-kong so that wind direction will not blow towards you? There is a lot more choices out there!

@clearvision
It depends on the time they discharge the “holy water”. Even if it’s
400m away is not far enough. Just like in Juru Heights whereby the
houses need not be near to the chicken farm to receive its
“Fragrance”. To get rid off the chicken farm is possible by the developer
but to how do you relocate a sewage treatment plant that cost over a
billion dollar ?

Even “Ang Kong” will find it a hard time to deal with such a situation.
Which direction should the wind blow ?

If you don’t like to stay in ‘lao zhuot” place, jelutong is not suitable for you.

Save your bullets and wait for the upcoming projects along the coastline. Remember, when come to rental and capital return, only the best property can prevail under such highly competitive market.

@Ah Gil
i m not easily influence by their comment about this project, i m still happy what i did to buy 2nd home here, the sewage issue is not my big concern, i m more concern about quality & design of the studio suite.

To All,
There are others that can afford along the coast line and there are others prefer in the city.
There are also prefers staying near the airport with the airport noise pollution.
Not to mention, there are also others that prefers long winding road to Balik Pulau or Tanjung Bungah area. THESE are all buyers preferences.
No need to argue.

Maybe these ppl that are waiting for their IDEAL location, good amenities, great design, cheap sq foot, low maintenance, condo facilities, reputable developer, less traffic will ONE DAY COME TRUE.
We can pray and hope for them too – but this is voluntarily. Your choice.

@ProspectBuyer you say like no say la. End of the day still depend how deep is your pockets money to determine your ideal home.

@ProspectBuyer

Yes pray hard…. wish the property market collapse…… than can get cheap cheap property…… continue praying now….

@ahsok
ok, let’s pray for “tua pek kong” to see when the price of property to collapse, if this happen, the investors first to suffer, i buy for own stay, don’t care too much about this issue, hehe.

@clearvision
ha, no need to pray for tua pek kong lah, for those waiting for price of property to collapse can ask ‘fortune teller’ to get fast result.. as long as you happy with your investment on this studio suite for own stay (me too), strongly agree with u don’t care too much any other external factor.

@ProspectBuyer
ya, each person has his/her own ideal home, therefore every housing project has it own supporter (buyer). For buyer for own stay, less considering too many factors, as long as location & price is affordable, they just go ahead. For investors, they may think & consider extra factors, such as appreciate value, future potential buyers etc etc.

I consider to buy but my cousin advise me to buy N-Park in Batu Uban/Gelugor. he stay there and according to him,
a. Lower entry price ~RM250K to RM260k and get bigger build up of 700sqf
b. Lower maintenance cost (~$0.15 only) and more facilities (Olympic size swimming pool, badminton court, sauna, tennis & squash court)
c. No low cost flats next to it.
d. fantastic Seaview and facing north-south, where the room is not hot in the afternoon
e. Superb location as compare to Jelutong, near to USM, easy to access everywhere (QBM, Pg Bridge, Jelutong express way, Bayan Lepas industrial area)
f. no risk of abandon and can immediately move in or rent out.
g. also can withdraw EPF to buy since this is my first house
h. Important is after getting marry the size also can fit in small family with kids. I do not plan to stay alone forever.
I think it is very worth it since it is fully renovated with that price, just that I dont like it is quite old. However, I think if I put in extra 50K renovation then should looks nice! The dilemma for me is I hesitate whether should take a worthwhile subsale unit or taking risk buy a pricey new house at not so good location… I am not sure yet so looking for advice. Anyway, I will go to the showroom and see..somehow can copy some renovation idea in case I go for N-Park..

@happy family
I know there is also a small sewage treatment facility not far away from N-Park, but not sure which one is more stink….

@happy family
Is it N Park related with this project? It’s totally different concept of living & u seem promote N Park apt from this forum.

@ST Goh
I am new and interested to buy properties and I see a lot of people promoting this project which is within my budget. but my cousin keep persuade me said Strait Garden overpriced and the market is actually over-supply. Well I see his points as I can easily get this N-Park. So asking you guys buyers advice lah… by the way I don’t have money to keep it as vacation house.

Coastal tower also not bad. No doubt the price has increased. Still, it’s very serene and quiet. For my unit, it has appreciated RM 150k within 2.3year. It’s very windy and doesnt need the air conditioning at all.

@happy family
frankly, the Straits Garden studio is overpriced, the developer is selling future price, which expected fully completed in early 2016, i think at that time, price of property will be more. If the economic not perform well, the price will be the same or lower. However, nobody know what will happen in future.

The studio suite of Straits Garden not suitable for family with 3 or 4 members, because it only 1 or 2 rooms, when your kid(s) growing up, he/she need more space or privacy own room, therefore 800sf with 3 bedrooms apt or condo more suitable for small family. If u want more & bigge comfortable living area, in Butterworth or Prai, there are many choices of 1300-1500 sf apt or condo just cost about RM260k-RM320K. Anyway, i still prefer landed property in mainland, however, it depend on personal affordable or budget.

Happy shooping for your ideal home sweet home.

@happy family
i m one of the buyer just share why we buy property here, so do other buyers, thats why u may notice many people promote the property here. I am agree with ST Goh, buying property should be carefully doing research & anaylsis, don’t let hard earn money ‘fool’ by developer. For your case, i also reccommend u buy bigger apt or condo (depend your afford & budget), most important factor is location that u think most convenience.

@clearvision
you also agreed Strait Garden is overpriced and not worth buying?

@CL
although a bit overpriced, i still buy it because it is within my budget, as ST Goh mention, we buy future property price. Worth to buy or not depend on personal valuation & evaluation, i buy this because low booking fee of RM5k, zero interest during contruction, location nearby my working place & fully furnished (easy for lazy person to renovate like me).

400sf, even smaller than ny living room. Like the studio concept, but the location….

yaya, even my toilet is already like bigger thn ur whole hse. blek

bad buy bad choise, sub sale will be very bad. i rather buy mpv to move and sleep within.

oh..sushi..too bad…u hv to sleep in ur mpv instead of a 400 sq feet hse…so pity…

Anyone can share any studio type of residence in Penang is a success one? (I mean with good rental return with greater than 6%, any return with less than 6% shouldn’t consider good) with this price, the rental for 400sf for RM1000 per month, the return of investment only 4%. Who want to rent for just one room studio for RM1000 (ops, i still didn’t factor in maintenance fee), so, it is less than 4% return of investment. To achieve 6%, need to rent RM1500 per month for 400sf at lowest floor. If you buy for own stay (for single person or married couple with no kids or don want kids, and parents live on their own or in old folk home), then it is good to buy.

Dear all purchasers of Straits Garden, some people come to sabotage the project again….be aware~

@sushi
congrats, u have bought world largest MPV in the world, i think the name call “Hino” !

@Sushi
u are rich, of course won”t consider small unit studio lah, pls don’t compare your mansion or bungalow with studio suite, i can recommend you consider Mah SIng Legenda Southbay bungalow, i think bathroom is twice bigger than bedroom of Straits Garden.

@pierre2
the 2nd message is for u, wrongly reply to sushi

let count how many ppl already bought this super duper overpriced project in the crowed Jelutong area.

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@Toyota 86
I went to sales office yesterday, the unit is 75% sold. Frankly I do not buy because I have family with kids, I bought the condo in Butterworth.

@Ah Dog
studio suite still new in Penang, i think most buyers won’t think too much about rent because it is fully furnished (person who rent won’t take care of furnitures & electical appliances), they buy either for own stay or re-sell if price appreciate to satisfy level. Me too, own stay is priority, nowadays, most property price is too high & expensive, the person still buy property for investment is rich investors, just wanna say good luck for them.

@ST Goh
i guess you need to understand this is studio apartment buy for own stay can except if you are alone or married without kids. so those buying for own stay normally is young adults or low income newly wed couples. then the rest of the group of people i think buy for investment either resell or rent…if resell, i am not sure what is the price you can sell for profits. then we go for rental, like ah dog said is it going to be good returns? so to me this apartment is good only for those that i have mentioned earlier….my friend in singapore told me this type of apartment is very popular in singapore because of rental yield but you have to know the market conditions there is different than in penang…and they have a lot of expatriates in banking, finance, IT, etc that will be interested as long as location near mrt and their working places.

@jerry
nobody know what will happen in future, purchasers buy it now for own stay, resell (investment) or rent up to them to evaluate & analyse, however, i a bit surprise the sales of this property quite good, about 70% of 230 units have been booked. I knew another similar type of this project (studio suite) by Airmas will be built at Jelutong as well, registration is opened for public.

@ST Goh

Where is Airmas Jelutong project located? When is the launching date?

@YK
i saw the ad from Guang Ming (saturday), i do not know the exact location & launching date, the ad just stated ‘open for registration’, u can call Airmas for more details if u interested.

@ST Goh
oh, seem more & more developers come to develop the area of Jelutong, the future prospect seem bright & good in Jelutong.

hohoho…another studio in jelutong?

looks like a great place to market studio unit despite negativity from speculator investors. this will definitely make those ppl that gv cold water on such project to complaint more. they will be happy to hear this.

standard comments; small unit not suitable, located near garbage hill and low rental yield and other grandma visionary outlook in penang property future.

hehehehe…..hohoho…hihihih….

@ST Goh
@clearvision

hey,,stop promoting studio unit in jelutong…some of the ppl out there dont like it. dont show them other projects coz they prefer LARGER unit, NICER location and MOST OF ALL, BETTER investment to speculate the market.

Please give penangites out there that are true buyer for home stay oppurtunities….

hehehe..hohoho…hihihih

Since the sales is so so only after few months… i think developer has to really bet big on the showroom already lar… if showroom turn out to be cheap ha, not only no one going to take up the remaining hor, cancellation for sure one lar.. So many buyers for own stay here keep justifying their purchase with the free renovation…. Hehe…

@studio_guy
Malaysia is freedom market, I am not promoting studio suite at Jelutong, just share why I bought this property, if people prefer larger sq ft condo or apt for home stay, just go ahead & buy it, just look at penangpropertytalk.com website, many many choices can be found.

@wbk
ya, although i have paid Rm5k & book a unit, i m also waiting for the showroom, if quality & design not meet my expectation, i will cancel it, of course, prepare to lose RM1k to developer…

@YK
The project by Airmas is located after Public Bank, also beside Jln Jelutong, it’s a service apt, from 400 sf & above, estimate price from RM450-RM500 per sq ft. In addtion, 2 storey shoplots will be built underneath the apt. I think in year 2016 & beyond, Jelutong will become commercial hub, however, narrow main road & traffic problem along Jln Jelutong need to be solved.

happy family :
I consider to buy but my cousin advise me to buy N-Park in Batu Uban/Gelugor. he stay there and according to him,
a. Lower entry price ~RM250K to RM260k and get bigger build up of 700sqf
b. Lower maintenance cost (~$0.15 only) and more facilities (Olympic size swimming pool, badminton court, sauna, tennis & squash court)
c. No low cost flats next to it.
d. fantastic Seaview and facing north-south, where the room is not hot in the afternoon
e. Superb location as compare to Jelutong, near to USM, easy to access everywhere (QBM, Pg Bridge, Jelutong express way, Bayan Lepas industrial area)
f. no risk of abandon and can immediately move in or rent out.
g. also can withdraw EPF to buy since this is my first house
h. Important is after getting marry the size also can fit in small family with kids. I do not plan to stay alone forever.
I think it is very worth it since it is fully renovated with that price, just that I dont like it is quite old. However, I think if I put in extra 50K renovation then should looks nice! The dilemma for me is I hesitate whether should take a worthwhile subsale unit or taking risk buy a pricey new house at not so good location… I am not sure yet so looking for advice. Anyway, I will go to the showroom and see..somehow can copy some renovation idea in case I go for N-Park..

hahaha, some more by Airmas? don’t you see it is already oversupply and some developers still ‘goreng’ the price? Selling at future price? that means developer get the ‘future price’ from you first, and in case by that time completed, if the price not go up, it is your own bad judgment!

@wbk
if developer produce the ‘wow’ inetrior design & superb quality for furnitures, i think sales will pick up again, showhouse ready in early June, let’s wait & see.

@ST Goh

You pay 100k more on the free renovation and appliances of course deserved the “super wowwow” factor lar….

I would think nothing should less than these lor:
1. Stainless steel grille at entrance.
2. Solid wood main door, tempered glass also ok since classy. Hehe…
3. Kitchen with marble top and tempered glass doors. With small mosaic on the wall. Italian fitting… with built-in lighting below the wall cabinet also…
4. Downlight with hidden light throughout.
5. Kamay/Lorenza 3+2 leather sofa.
6. Kamay/Lorenza marble top dinning table with matching 4 chairs. Tempered glass top also ok…
7. Aircon with inverter.
8. 400L refrigerator, 40in LED 3D TV.
9. Front loading washing machine.
10. Bed and mattress from Harvey Norman.
11. Wash room sink with marble top. Full size mirror. Johnson Suisse toilet bowl. Tempered glass shower screen.
12. If got balcony, make sure come with nice curtain… The window should have nice curtain also lar…
13. Wooden floor throughout would be nice also…

Am I asking too much? But 100k wor… and size so small only…Hehe…

@wbk
but the apartment size too small cannot fit in all those items you request ler….

@Huat Chai

Then take out the 2-seater lar…The rest I still want… Hehe…

@wbk
good suggestion & i wish developer follow all your lists mentioned, i m sure buy it !!

@ST Goh

I just list down what i think 100k can do only lar… Hehe…

@happy family
Congrats, N-Park is doing well from 2009 with ~RM160k until now 2012 with ~RM280k, about RM120k appreciation in less than 3 years. But, the rental is still the same, RM1200 for ff and reno in very good condition; and RM650 for original; and only RM900 for ff & reno with poor condition. In fact, the rental is trending down as too many units for rent, owner fight for good price and keen to rent out.

Almost in more than 10 years, the rental in Penang is still the same……more and more suppy of condo in 3 years time, so, probably RM1000 can rent 1000sf++ good condo already.

@Ah Dog
so you think the RM350k++ 485sqf Strait Garden in Jelutong can get better rental yield?
Other than its brand new renovation what is better than the seaview, better access, and larger size N-Park for own stay?

@happy family
hmm..why you focus both in rental yield and then also for own stay? These 2 are conflicting interests.
Straits garden maybe good for own stay if ones okay with small size unit and i dont think its attractive for rental now as studio concept is new in island. Time will tell. Also, would the owner want to rent out with all brand new furnitures and finishings? Will the rental enough to maintain or refurbish those furniture?

So, i dont see your point when you put own-stay and rental together in a discussion.

@studio_guy
Forget about rental and let’s get to the point. For own stay, other than its brand new renovation, what else of Strait Garden is better than the seaview, better access, and larger size N-Park?

@happy family
If you read properly on my comment, the rental yield in Penang is trending down and will further down and down in coming years, due to over supply. Why ppl want to rent just 500sf for RM1000?? They can get better size with RM1000pm. Now, you can follow up the latest market rental at Penang, so pitty, need to lower down the rental to attract ppl, and again, need to compete with those newly condos.

Rental yield in Penang? haha, forget about it. (unless, yes, unless, you bought that property in 5 years back, and rent out with the rental that similar in 10 years back, then the yield is still ok). Just FYI, the average monthly rental never change in 10 years time in Penang.

in 2002, you can rent a 2 rooms flat (LMC) with ~500sf for RM400, now, it is still the same (my friend rent out PDC flat in Macallum for 20 years ++, starting with RM360 in 1980th, now, RM400). Gurney Park condo, RM3000 in early stage in about 10 yrs back, now, RM2000 promotion price. For rental investment, go KL. Forget about Penang, unless you bought in 5 years back. It is totally not for entry level to go in the market.

@wbk
You missed out Fortile O Touch Kitchen appliances

@Gary

You can list down what you want also lar… I am satisfied with mine. Hehe…

@Gary
Good analysis. I don’t think the developer will give good quality furniture here. Assuming they simply get the promotion set (bedrooms+living+dining) from local furniture shops with the cost below 10K and quote buyer 100K. Wow! such a good margin here. This is the way they make money from those Suits. Only rich + lazy people and expatriate don’t mind to pay extra.

@wbk
Good analysis as well.

@Ah Dog & @studio_guy
make it STRAIGHT TO THE POINT:
FOR OWN STAY, other than its brand new renovation, what else of Strait Garden is better than the seaview, better access, and larger size N-Park?

@XY
i don’t think developer will do that, all furnitures are custom made so that can fit to the studio unit, however, what type of material or quality provided, nobody know until the showhouse ready for viewing. Since it is fully furnished & include into bank loan, developer won’t simply provide so-so quality furnish because bank will evaluate the value & provide loan to purchaser(s), low standard or quality studio suite may affect reputation of the company.

@happy family
it is very subjective question to ask, depend on your personal need & requirement, Straits Garden is studio, N Park is medium size apt, different concept, furthermore, low density units of 230 (11 units per floor with 3 accessable lifts) & fully furnish, suit for lazy person to do renovation & search for electrical appliances.

@happy family
cool man. We all knw you prefer N-park. So, we respect your preference. You dont have to repeat again and again here.
Some of us (or at least me) prefer SMALL, NEW & RENOVATED house. That is our preference. okay?

If this is not DIRECT TO THE POINT, i need other forumers here help to explain further. =)
Cheers….

hey guys, i’m back. Hehe.
I saw some heaty discussion here. Aiya, ignore all concerns if 1 have decided with the StraitsGarden lar. No point arguing N-park and others here. Its your money, you make the decision lar.

Someone, someday will bring Reflection lar, BJ court lar, Golden Triangle lar (just to name a few) into comparison and arguing again based on personal preferences. Then, ppl will bring Landed property lar and Mainlands project lar and more. Never ending……

Better discuss when will the show room ready for viewing. So, anyone got this information to share?

@ProspectBuyer
that person always discuss N park here is wanna promote the apt here, i suggest to ignore & avoid to answer anything.

Developer inform showhouse ready for viewing in early June, hope the showcase is “what we see what we get”.

@clearvision
great…early June to view the showhouse.

And, which panel bank you plan to proceed with? Have you started to look into their financing packages? Care to share this as well?

@ProspectBuyer
somehow thanks for the response.

@clearvision
No need to act Lan Si like that lah. I ask politely for opinion since you guys so ‘hot’ about this project and I not sure and don’t want to make wrong decision mah. If you got good point to say then answer lah, if no then say no lah. No need to harass people lah. I am not the developer for N-Park so no need to help promote it.

Good argument on N-Park and this SG Studio; in fact, N-Park with RM280k onwards really not worth to buy in anymore for rental (i don’t think local ppl still want to buy for own stay, a lot foreigners there, don’t know your next door got 人肉炸弹, you know what i mean la, if don know, go observe yourself, i also hear say previously, but when visited for more than 10 times, know the fact and didn’t acquire one for rental, in fact, i miss the golden opportunity, if RM200k, then a good buy), and the surrounding is old, smelly…. For this SG Studio, it is new, new concept, and plenty of potential. Still can consider, just hope rental in Penang can start to grow, else, with current rental market price, SG Studio will make you cry if want to rent out with new furniture.

@Ah Dog
I thought it was already fullstop on this topic if not some sales person may blame me for promoting N-Park again. But you are over exaggerated and being skeptical. I do notice that there are foreign students under ‘student exchange program’ and foreign lecturers (middle east, Turkey, etc) who study/work in USM, but those at least are educated group of people. You are very racism to label them with such accusation.
Some people told me the bare unit value of SG probably just RM300psf based on that location, and the rest ~RM200psf ($100K) is cost for renovation & home appliance. Well, the value of renovation and home appliance depreciate over time (when it is getting old!). So can imagine the value of the property after few years stay. I was also told by many, that small size studio apartment are usually aimed for rental to expatriate/single and need good location near to happening places in town. But like you said it is hopeless for rental in Jelutong. I just feel odd that people in forum here say SG is buy for own stay, so seek for justification. Well, no need to talk more since I am not going to consider SG anymore.

@happy family

Not racist lar… it is stereotype. General perception lar… hehe…

@happy family
You are right. The value of the renovation+furniture+home appliance depreciate at 10% each year, so the life span for these assets is just 10 years. Do not forget that the renovation cost is add to the loan(if not buy cash) and buyers have to serve the loan interest for about 30-40 years while the assets have zero net value. In the investor’s point of view, i am gonna withdraw my interest on this property.

@LI

4.2% daily rest interest for 30-40 years installment period not too bad lar… you can pay advance if u got extra cash to knock down the interest also ma… now you buy furniture give you 12 months installment only lar… sometime need to charge you 2-3% one time somemore… so got good or bad lar…hehe…

@ProspectBuyer
developer will advise 3 panel banks for purchaser to choose, and according the info provided by other purchaser, the squatters only start to move out that area in Oct 2012, therefore expected to sign SnP end of 2012, therefore no rush to look for loan package right now. In addtion, i have no 100% guarantee to buy the unit, all depend on showhouse’s quality & design then decide to sign SnP or not

if u like it, then u can go for it; if u don’t like it, never waste a cent to it…no offence to anyone…

@ksgoh
if i don’t like it, i lose RM1k to developer, if i like it, probably i gain RM20k discount because developer probably provide less discount or debate to purchaser when showhouse ready.

@clearvision

Discount bukan gain lar… gain is when you sell…

@wbk
i buy for own stay, so discount i consider as “gain”. If appreciate property price & i sell it, i consider as “profit”.

@clearvision
Thanks for the loan info.
Good to know that S&P only sign in end of 2012. More time for me to collect capital. Hehehe.
So, we do not have to worry anymore as we have kind of locked with 20K rebate to our interest. We still have 6 months till end of 2012. Many things can happen. Not to forget, GE13. hehehehe…
Good state administration will enhance Penang further in every aspects.

@ProspectBuyer
i also plan to buy extra car parking lot for RM30k, what’s your opinion? worth?

have show house d? when? where the office?

clearvision :
@ProspectBuyer
i also plan to buy extra car parking lot for RM30k, what’s your opinion? worth?

car park cost RM30K? the car park also come with RM10K renovation is it? then must expect marble tile and installed spot light to shine on the car.

How come the extra car park nowadays so expensive one har? Normally 20k nia… Developer really knows how to juice the buyer lor… hehe…

RM30k is worth it. If you live at the area that you can park your car at roadside, then the car park will not that expensive, maybe RM15k. But for this, beware, there is no way for you to park at the roadside. So, consider to buy.

Very simple, if you buy Time Square condo, have 2 cars, if live in one car park unit, the second car park where? Roadside? The MPPP charge you, park inside time square lagi teruk….!!!

I went to the showhouse yesterday and was booking a small unit of 404sqf.
to be frankly, I know the unit is very expensive if compared to other projects~
but, I really like it…:-)

ProspectBuyer :@ST Goh what attracted to me on the 411 sf unit were:-a. Low entry price ~RM300K to RM330k (will be cheaper after deduct RM20K rebate)b. Low maintenenance costc. With (a) + (b), overall monthly mortgage is lowd. Facing poolside, where the room is not hot in the afternoone. Fully furnished with furniture and electrical appliancef. Completion in 2015..so no more capital investment from now and for next 3 yrsg. Important is a unit in ISLANDh. Wanna pull some money out from EPF for property purchase. (In my opinion (MY OPINION ONLY), it may generate higher % return than keep in EPF. Capital appreciation in ISLAND can be higher than 6% a year – i guess. I like to know and involve in managing my EPF money than let gvment invest for me. Although its limited, but AT LEAST i have some little say to small portion of it. Hihihi. That’s my case, i may make wrong decision now but i’m prepared for it.

100% agree with you ~~~~

@Minami
You like it because expensive? Any other good reasons? [A good project no need to come out in kwong wah news paper property advertising box everyday, once it launches, all sapu habis]

@Minami
Mmm, agree 100% in no pain, no gain, there is always a risk in investment.

@Ah Dog

I dont know how to esplain to you , I didnt mean to say I like it because its expensive.
a big sorry to you if you got hard feeling when reading my comment.

Minami :
I went to the showhouse yesterday and was booking a small unit of 404sqf.
to be frankly, I know the unit is very expensive if compared to other projects~
but, I really like it…:-)

The showhouse is ready?

clearvision :
@ProspectBuyer
i also plan to buy extra car parking lot for RM30k, what’s your opinion? worth?

I’m not sure ler. Its RM30K wor. Expensive to me.

@ProspectBuyer
still thinking to buy or not, i will ask developer provide public car park for visitors or not? I know very hard to find parking lot at Jln Jelutong area.

Minami said showroom ready because she went there… hehe…

wbk :
@ST Goh
You pay 100k more on the free renovation and appliances of course deserved the “super wowwow” factor lar….
I would think nothing should less than these lor:
1. Stainless steel grille at entrance.
2. Solid wood main door, tempered glass also ok since classy. Hehe…
3. Kitchen with marble top and tempered glass doors. With small mosaic on the wall. Italian fitting… with built-in lighting below the wall cabinet also…
4. Downlight with hidden light throughout.
5. Kamay/Lorenza 3+2 leather sofa.
6. Kamay/Lorenza marble top dinning table with matching 4 chairs. Tempered glass top also ok…
7. Aircon with inverter.
8. 400L refrigerator, 40in LED 3D TV.
9. Front loading washing machine.
10. Bed and mattress from Harvey Norman.
11. Wash room sink with marble top. Full size mirror. Johnson Suisse toilet bowl. Tempered glass shower screen.
12. If got balcony, make sure come with nice curtain… The window should have nice curtain also lar…
13. Wooden floor throughout would be nice also…
Am I asking too much? But 100k wor… and size so small only…Hehe…

RM30k car park wor, add 1 more to the list:
14. individual car park come with marble tiles, CCTV surveillance & alarm system + spot light illumination.

@WTF

Wah… the more the merrier lar like that… hehe… sure sold out within a day…

@ProspectBuyer
if the showroom is ready, how are the furniture’s quality and type? So curious now to go to the showroom.

Anyone else visited the showroom?

30k car park, wow wow.. must come with very high tech and high class elevated car park and valet parking service.

@ProspectBuyer
i call sales person this morning, showhouse is partly completed, still got some amendment to be made, anyway, soft opening for public to view.

I was told there’s a property fair this week-end at Queensbay and this project will be on display.You can confirm by calling them.I might drop by to see first before decides to purchase or not.Their office is in Butterworth,by the way.

@clearvision
Great! Great! I will go there by mid of June. Thanks for the info.

Hi clearvision and Prospectbuy,

To be frank with you, I bought 2 units, oh, sorry, not bought, just booked only la. I booked them on Wesak Day and I could get level 27, 1 unit suite (404 sqft) and another one executive suite (593 sqft). both are located nearest to the lift and facing slightly opposite to each other. Many options I could have later if one of them might go for investment and another for own use but I am not sure which yet. If I retire, I plan to stay in a studio and if my kid gets marry and want to stay, they stay opposite, can keep relationship…ah….that could just be a dream, but do not know whether the bank would approve high MOA. Therefore, we have to

I tried to check with some experts on renovation and basically, they said that normally, renovation of RM60 per sqft will be very good already (from a developer point of view, because they can save the cost of putting the basic renovation) meaning 400 sqft x RM60 = RM24000 renovation.Can that be trusted ? However, the salesperson told me that they will be RM70,000 renovation, therefore, that must be excellent job and furnishing. I wonder if it will feel like a hotel, haha….

Anyway, I am excited to see the showroom and if it is not up to our expectation, I might let go one or both. Hopefully, they wont’ fail us.

This developer really ‘ka ka lai’, thought island people all are ‘waterfish’…

@Wannabuy
Cool….2 units. Dont worry…whatever the price is now, once the launch the next building (condo), the price will be much higher. My unit is 411sq ft, looking towards the pool, level 24. Not much choices left when i was there in their office.

@WTF
Ya, island ppl will put their unit selection 1st in the island. So, where are you from? Island ppl or not island ppl? We all can invite you to ENJOY our high tech car park if its convenient to you.

@ProspectBuyer

@Wannabuy
i went to see the showhouse this afternoon, 80% completed (100% complete in early June).

For 485sf, the living room is red & white combination, i.e. developer provide red sofa bed, 42″ LCD TV, samsung fridge, plaster ceiling with hidden lights, white colour kitchen cabinet etc. For bedroom, there is queen size bed, custom made wardrobe (white), colourful wall (light green & brown) behind the bed. For the floor, there is laminated wood type.

Meanwhile for stainless steel door at entrance, no final from developer yet. Overall, i like the design, modern & elegance, the furniture is slightly above average quality, not top quality, depend on personal valuation lah.

@Wannabuy
in my opinion & base on personal valuation, the renovation & electrical appliances provided by developer not up to RM70k in value as sales person inform, it is only 80% completed, i will comment after i saw fully completed showhouse.

where is the show room??

@cat
showhouse is located in Wisma Pantai, Jln Kampung Gajah, Butterworth. Visitor must go to 12th floor & then sales person will accompany to showroom at 8th floor. When showhouse official open for public, visitor just straight go to 8th floor.

@clearvision
seem 485sf showhouse design better than 612sf. 485 sf design suit for young adult, love the dynamic red colour wall & sofa, meanwhile for 612sf, black fabric sofa not attractive, however, elegance design of dining chairs is great.

@ST Goh
@clearvision
Sounds great. Cant wait to see the show room. But its a pity that they wont have any showroom for 411sq ft unit.

Are they going to list all the furniture into the S&P later?

The showroom is at Butterworth wor… how to attract potential buyer for owner stay ler like that? I think they might expect most of the buyers are from Butterworth lor… hehe…

@ProspectBuyer
411sf all sold out, so developer want to promote 485sf. I did not ask developer about list of furnitures in SnP, u may ask them & update to us, thank you.

Show house 80% completed? what else is not fix?

@LKS
for 485sf, bathroom & doors of kitchen cabinet not yet fix. Meanwhile for 612sf, 95% complete, just need clean up.

seems like no one concern about the commercial title..:)

@apalalu
The interested buyer obviously knows about it. What is your concern?

Wow, I just can’t wait to see them. Based on the description above, I think the red and white design is the one that we can see from the website. However, I am not there yet to view it. Can I just double check if anyone ask them that there are 8 suites per floor and there are 2 designs to see, will other 6 designs similar to the (red and white for 485 sqft) or the black sofa fabric design for 612 sqft ? Will all the renovation for each unit differs ?The two units that I chose were 404 sqft and 593 sqft. Can really judge if all are different.

Prospectbuy, the 404 sqft is facing the pool while the 593 is facing the main road. Just wonder whether what is the booking level and just wish they withdraw the rebates away asap. At least, this will benefit those who are really “early birds”.

Those who have booked, if we see the developer the next round, can all of us push the developer to give the earlier birds some special privilege or if they reach certain level of sales, they have to take away the rebates ? Is that good idea ? I hope that the sales at Queensbay Mall this weekend will be the last for the rebates.

Don’t worry, I will say that too if I visit the showroom this week or next week because I will tell them that Farlim All Season Park when they launched at Queensbay, those who booked will get additional 2%. Or maybe, I will pretend to drag them…..

@Wannabuy
developer still provide RM20k rebate although showhouse partly completed, ya, rebate will withdraw if sales hit the target. I view the 612sf showhouse, feel the living room is smaller than 485sf, maybe furniture arrangement, maybe the layout design, for 485sf, living room & kitchen area combine, so the space looks bigger. I book 485sf, i am satisfied with the design.

Can anyone who had visited the show rooms post some photos here? That will help.

@studio_guy

@ST Goh
some people purposely come to comment at certain projects for sabotage, pls do not respond that kind of person’s comment, just ignore it or report to admin, thanks. Buy a studio suite for dog stay is very childish act…shame.

@Pen
i will revisit the showhouse after fully complete, if developer allow, i will take some pictures & posted here.

@monica
well say

Haha, what a joke, buy for dog? Pet is not allowed.

@Ah Dog
you also not allow because your name is Ah Dog

oh..i am interested to buy but like someone said parking is a problem there. I need to buy extra car park too. Can some one tell me why the car park cost RM30K while other projects typically RM20k only….Is it also come with RM10k luxury renovation like the unit? Is this a valid question?

@Crystal Ball
only develope can tell u why car park cost Rm30k. As i know this project not provide car park for visitors. The visitor’s car need to park at commercial parking lot at same building (that parking area cannot access to residential), the rate may calculate by hour, so i am the one also thinking to buy 2nd car park or not, expensive price is main factor put on hold.

@Crystal Ball
You have been asking the wrong question, as you know, there for sure no ‘free’ parking at the surrounding (like Times Square Condo), so, you MUST rent a car park or buy at RM30k, it is consider cheap, some other condo you have money also can’t buy.

@ST Goh
Only live in Bangalow or Semi-D with some garden can have dog. Definitely not for studio

@Ah Dog
ya, developer told me limited 2nd car park lots available, 1st come 1st reserved.

Ah Dog :@Crystal Ball You have been asking the wrong question, as you know, there for sure no ‘free’ parking at the surrounding (like Times Square Condo), so, you MUST rent a car park or buy at RM30k, it is consider cheap, some other condo you have money also can’t buy.

no answer that said wrong question? Jelutong is not prime area like town center lah. Like that sell car park is more profitable than the studio lah, even don’t need to build walls.

@ST Goh

for buyers who bought lowest or highest floor, the 2nd car park lot is cost RM25k.

clearvision :
@ST Goh
for buyers who bought lowest or highest floor, the 2nd car park lot is cost RM25k.

still no answer why the car park sell more expensive than typical price…or only can ask question according to your script?

@Crystal Ball
in mainland, extra car park already cost Rm15k-RM20k, therefore in island more expensive lor. Maybe limited qty, developer wanna sell higher price to get more profit, i do not plan to buy.

From the response here,this project looks rather successful but my personal opinion is,must view first before booking.If this location is at Tg.Bungah or Tg Tokong,without hesitation I will book one unit but to be fair Jelutong is now very much developed and definitely a nice place to stay as I have many friends living there.

@ProspectBuyer hi, i have no concern at all. just curious that buyer does not mind paying higher electric bill and higher quit rent.

Ya,another concern.Hows the electricity charges?Is it under commercial rate and by how much difference?Can anyone who knows kind enough to share here.Thanks

commercial rate for water & electricity will be 30%-40% extra from what you paid now at resident rate. this will be another hidden cost you all must aware.

i think electricity, quit rent, assessment fees all double

John :
From the response here,this project looks rather successful but my personal opinion is,must view first before booking.If this location is at Tg.Bungah or Tg Tokong,without hesitation I will book one unit but to be fair Jelutong is now very much developed and definitely a nice place to stay as I have many friends living there.

Ya, agree. If its tanjung bungah, the selling price would be RM500K or alot more. Then we will have totally different topic already. Over there, so many super condo. Then this project will become super studio with super high price.

@Crystal Ball
I think no one here can answer your question about the high cost for the parking. Why not you call and ask such question to the developer? Rather than for us to provide you with our own opinion and then you came back with the intimidating responses.

John :
From the response here,this project looks rather successful but my personal opinion is,must view first before booking.If this location is at Tg.Bungah or Tg Tokong,without hesitation I will book one unit but to be fair Jelutong is now very much developed and definitely a nice place to stay as I have many friends living there.

LMC at Jelutong cost <RM100k, if those LMC are located at Singapore, I will not hesitate to buy all also (with that price)! What a bunch of jokers!

Just went to show rooms this afternoon,the renovation still on going but managed to capture some photos. Personally feel that these suites are too small for me especially the 2nd room in suite 7, can’t even do a maid room. It is really overchared if d renovation is100k like what others say here plus d commercial tittle issue, car park issue, LMC condo n apartment beside…..but still 60% taken up despite all these….is it really worth for investment?

Sales told me that all the Furnitures will be listed in the S&P。

@ProspectBuyer

Yes, but only for 610 & 485 unit only.