Buy low sell high everyone should know..the matter is the holding power in bp is too long compare to town..people can flip 3-5 times till the bp place get mature..eg. basic infra, college, uni, good hospital etc.
For investment in bp is very slow but own stay is perfect. Problem in pg is the rental is too low even in town, so who want to rent so far like bp? Till 1 day rent a room in town say 1k, people will start moving to bp..Also rental low in town due to salary low in town..So the root cause is Salary in town need to increase..else bp still have same fate.

Salary also depends on how good or innovation people have, if 10 years no innovative skills . Then stop at the same salary like 10 Years ago and rental should be no change. Meaning bp no change also

400psf in penang is the cheapest in bp, all other in town is already 1k psf. Sooner will be 800psf in BP till that time town will go up to 2-3k psf. Raw material and labour cost will go up again soon. I think that time rental price will start increase due to younger people cannot afford to buy house and have to rent with higher rental price.

If talking about investment, 800psf still long way to go i guess, still a lot of land to develop in BP area la..PIII is located in quite remote area sumore.

Balik Pulau, still got a lot of land OR last piece of land in island for development depends on you..

Any development in bp ?? University or hotel or hypermarket ?

Got. According to Sin Chew Daily dated on 2012/12/22, a hypermarket going to be there by PLB,but do not know when this to be materialized.If I am not mistaken a college been there in Air Puteh quite some time. I expect very soon we can get our OC.

good to hear that…..

so far, no application yet been submitted to open hypermarket in BP. however, there probably a police quarters to replace sg korok police station – which is close to P3. we can expect hypermarket later if nu of people increase later on – but dont know when. Air putih got international school, and no plan yet for new institution after politeknik BP officially opened last year. For hotel, I dont think so at d moment. hospital may not, in fact the gov will expand hospital BP.

wow Bob, u r informative, mana dapat all this info ? last time said US apa women U want to open near genting , u know that ? some also said LimKwokWeng college too…..ada ?

huh :
wow Bob, u r informative, mana dapat all this info ? last time said US apa women U want to open near genting , u know that ? some also said LimKwokWeng college too…..ada ?

Haha… yeah… The woman dunno wat uni is on major newspaper. What about Lim kok weng??? Where you get the news?

Hopefully well known hospitals or universities can come to bp so that create more jobs opps for people to stay here.

i’m originally form BP, and know a lot about BP I even can see the project everyday, 5min drive.haha. lot of rumors hanging around for uni or college here, but not really sure.so far, none for private uni. if public uni, UiTM maybe next. they staying temporary in a building next to BP hospital. without basic amenities, a bit difficult to open private uni here. private uni usually for highclass people and definitely all this anak orang kaya wont stay in BP. my 2 cents! they will choose either INTI college (etc) or maybe new KDU college that will be built in Bt Kawan.

Noticed that the population in bp is too little to support a hypermarket. If no development on good uni/infra I think hard to convince people to stay in bp except no choice due to their house cant rent out. People will choose batu kawan as future development looks great eg. ikea, factory and new infra..Anyway, environment in bp is very nice eg. green field but still long way to go for development. Pro for own stay and con for quick money. Investor if cant hold maybe make a loss due to got price no taker.

normally bought BP is for own stay…..if for investment need strong holding power

Batu Maung and Teluk Kumbar has no more land to develop. So the next will be balik pulau.

See apartment with 230k also sold out in 2 days. Anyone has update whether the 2units of double story house already sold out or not ?

Once oc obtained, we will know what is the market value ?

What about new phase? How much and how many unit sold?

New phase a lot unsold. Sales going very slow now.

I wished that PLB planted lots of the tropical “Sakura” in the park. Will be nice see them bloom

i think those pokok is the “sakura” u said, if i am not wrong

plan those when the flower fall down, the area will become slipy and dirty when the flower turn to yellow. some time nice to see but not nice to have

sales will be pickup after august..

initially phase3 is single storey and it will be converted to double storey. they are waiting for the approval to be done, therefore plb only take in registration for buyers, no booking fee allow.

chew :
sales will be pickup after august..

why after August?

common sense, July OC obtained people will start selling with 20-25% higher price than they brought. at that time, buyer will feel that buying a brand new unit is cheaper as it includes SPA fees. eg. say they brought 468k at that time, selling price 560k. New one only 568k. People will choose buy new unit. Unless they revised the price.

only 25% ? can higher for corner lot ?

chew :
common sense, July OC obtained people will start selling with 20-25% higher price than they brought. at that time, buyer will feel that buying a brand new unit is cheaper as it includes SPA fees. eg. say they brought 468k at that time, selling price 560k. New one only 568k. People will choose buy new unit. Unless they revised the price.

Doesn’t sound convincing though.

lets wait and see

they should have planted the palm-type trees instead, any tree with branches create security issue to the house owner, burglar use this as “stepping stone” for easy access into the house.

Trees with smaller leaf generate more harm: 1) very sticky to the floor, stubborn to sweep away. 2) very easy to clog in the gutter.Palm-type trees have a simple-leaf,never generate problems.

@Robert Tan, u r very good , LIKE for u

sales really slow for phase3 now, maybe due to other potential project and also some negative comment here regarding crack etc. New project like The Maven in Titi Teras around 550k for 3storey townhouse with gated and guarded (this what half of us looking to).
For Phase1&2, if u guys want to sale it back for more that 550k after oc, u will dream for it. Corner lot in Taman Simfoni offered 570k (can check mudah). And lot more vacant house in Palmyra and Botanice offered around 450k-500k. Yes they are a bit older (5yo), but never been occupied and can be considered as ‘new’. Best of luck. Keep this house for you kids though rather than sell it back.

now hot area is at Seberang Prai Tengah and Selatan..Balik Pulau will remain same if no develepment

Phase3 give discount or zero deposit people may consider.

jon :
sales really slow for phase3 now, maybe due to other potential project and also some negative comment here regarding crack etc. New project like The Maven in Titi Teras around 550k for 3storey townhouse with gated and guarded (this what half of us looking to).
For Phase1&2, if u guys want to sale it back for more that 550k after oc, u will dream for it. Corner lot in Taman Simfoni offered 570k (can check mudah). And lot more vacant house in Palmyra and Botanice offered around 450k-500k. Yes they are a bit older (5yo), but never been occupied and can be considered as ‘new’. Best of luck. Keep this house for you kids though rather than sell it back.

Excuse me, are you sure The Maven is an absolutely 3 storey townhouse entirely yours for RM550K? Please, do some home works first

It is not. Out of 3 storey townhouse , there are 2 owners:
(1) Ground floor- 4 car parks. Each owner gets 2 front-back car parks which means you have to remove your Camry before your wife’s Myvi can drive out to market every morning
(2) 1st floor- your neighbor house which to me is like a walk-up apartment around 1000sq feet
(3) 2nd floor- sorry, it is your house because you can only afford RM550K . you have to hike 2 stairs every day. 1st floor is more expensive.

So, are you sure ” half of us looking to ” The Maven?
It is even worse than P3 condo in Prestige 3 as at least if you choose P3 Condo your mother-in-law who has knee pain can take the lift to take care of your wife during confinement.
Size at about 1000sq feet , RM250K and with full condo facilities.

Still, the best is those early purchasers for the Double Storey House at RM468K.

Huat :
Phase3 give discount or zero deposit people may consider.

In Penang Island, all newly launch condo at reasonable size and 2 car parks is selling at more than half a million!
You guys the early purchasers are really lucky to grab landed at RM400K ++
No more now.

the maven $550k only gets 1storey and the BU is <1100 sqft. 1166sqft as they claim is included the store room at the ground floor, which they factor in.
as for botanica, need to be careful which phase is the house. earlier phase houses are built on cemetery…

Still got meh. Botanica DST (2nd hand-around7-8 years old) for 460k still available. check property guru.com. Palmyra, after nego can get 48-500k.
Lot more available though.

jon :
Still got meh. Botanica DST (2nd hand-around7-8 years old) for 460k still available. check property guru.com. Palmyra, after nego can get 48-500k.
Lot more available though.

Why do you want to buy a 2nd hand one?
The history/background of the house is unknown. Possible Defects / leaking/etc are never be sure with 30 minutes view with agent/owner…
Furthermore, if the house is really good, would you let go yourself if you are owner?

This is classic. One row of houses, all your neighbors paid RM300K 7-8 years ago and suddenly a Water Fish like you move-in paying RM500K. You will be the subject of discussion in the aunties morning walk. Of course, they like to talk to you especially asking how much you pay…hehehe

I would rather buy a new one, in a brand new housing area with all new neighbors. Every one is equal and try to be good to each other.

kenneth123 :

jon :Still got meh. Botanica DST (2nd hand-around7-8 years old) for 460k still available. check property guru.com. Palmyra, after nego can get 48-500k.Lot more available though.

Why do you want to buy a 2nd hand one?The history/background of the house is unknown. Possible Defects / leaking/etc are never be sure with 30 minutes view with agent/owner…Furthermore, if the house is really good, would you let go yourself if you are owner?
This is classic. One row of houses, all your neighbors paid RM300K 7-8 years ago and suddenly a Water Fish like you move-in paying RM500K. You will be the subject of discussion in the aunties morning walk. Of course, they like to talk to you especially asking how much you pay…hehehe
I would rather buy a new one, in a brand new housing area with all new neighbors. Every one is equal and try to be good to each other.

Kenneth, you are real water fish, got good bargain u dont buy but go become water fish.

Kenneth, new house has more uncertainty than old house la..

1. Who is your neighbor?
2. How is the future development in surrounding area?
3. The infra?
4. Land sinking or not?
5. Etc..

Why not to old house???

Hate :

kenneth123 :

jon :Still got meh. Botanica DST (2nd hand-around7-8 years old) for 460k still available. check property guru.com. Palmyra, after nego can get 48-500k.Lot more available though.

Why do you want to buy a 2nd hand one?The history/background of the house is unknown. Possible Defects / leaking/etc are never be sure with 30 minutes view with agent/owner…Furthermore, if the house is really good, would you let go yourself if you are owner?
This is classic. One row of houses, all your neighbors paid RM300K 7-8 years ago and suddenly a Water Fish like you move-in paying RM500K. You will be the subject of discussion in the aunties morning walk. Of course, they like to talk to you especially asking how much you pay…hehehe
I would rather buy a new one, in a brand new housing area with all new neighbors. Every one is equal and try to be good to each other.

Kenneth, you are real water fish, got good bargain u dont buy but go become water fish.

Good bargain? What a joke. It is always and always seller / investors who determine/dictate prices in Penang Island. Your so called good bargain reasoning is just as good as self-comfort.

Why ? What I describe above happened exactly to you , right? You must be a 2nd hand house buyer/owner. Care to share how much cash you have to spend up front on legal fees for SNP and loan agreement.
Just accept the reality that given a choice every one would like to purchase a brand new house, why cheat yourself?

Kenneth123: P3 is brand new project,n people here already talk abt defect,crack etc at dis project. Basically not much different.people want to sell not because d house is bad,but they bought it 5 years ago for invesment.now time to harvest. U mentioned abt new neighbours,but if unlucky,only u will b in your row,others will b empty n wait for new buyer.

bob :
Kenneth123: P3 is brand new project,n people here already talk abt defect,crack etc at dis project. Basically not much different.people want to sell not because d house is bad,but they bought it 5 years ago for invesment.now time to harvest. U mentioned abt new neighbours,but if unlucky,only u will b in your row,others will b empty n wait for new buyer.

Bob, you must be one of the generous buyers- happy and willing to become a harvest.
Well, if people bought a new one, and indeed the whole row is empty, you can always get bobs to be harvested

Kenneth123, well said. Bravo bravo!!
Hahaha….

No matter how you argue, buying a brand new one is always the first choice.
Unless you cannot wait for 2 years for landed.

@kenneth123
Botanica CT phase 1 now is RM480K DST
Botanica CT phase 2 now new lauch is RM600K DST, same size and a lot of unknown.
Water fish like you will buy phase 2.
Aren’t you?

Hate :
@kenneth123
Botanica CT phase 1 now is RM480K DST
Botanica CT phase 2 now new lauch is RM600K DST, same size and a lot of unknown.
Water fish like you will buy phase 2.
Aren’t you?

All wrong, i bought botanical CT phase 1 at only RM299K. Very initial project.
My family still keep that house.
Just like I bought Prestige 3 -1st phase at RM468K.

You must regret why not grab a new one while it is still affordable.
I tell you what, if you don’t buy one now, you may regret in your whole life.

Hate :
@kenneth123
Botanica CT phase 1 now is RM480K DST
Botanica CT phase 2 now new lauch is RM600K DST, same size and a lot of unknown.
Water fish like you will buy phase 2.
Aren’t you?

Dont act smart la, at least do some home works first.
Botanical CT at phase 2 now? Come on, it is at phase 5 now.
Double Storey phase 5a also sold out and left Bumi units.

Probably, you can talk to Kenneth123 to sell his phase 1 to you since you are so keen on 2nd hand house.

Balik Pulau useless lah. Buy Batu Kawan better, got Ikea, Ikano, University, Country Club, go work in Bayan Lepas much much easier then Balik Pulau. If you don’t buy Batu kawan, you will regret for the next 3 generations!

The mountain road remain the main factor holding me from choosing balik pulau. I am not worry about lack of developmen. I believe it will come later. I am talking about own stay.

Location of bp cannot change..good thing is less pollution and peaceful life. Very good for own stay.

I will rent out my condo in tanjung bunga and the rental income to pay my dst in Bp. Finally i got landed property. So happy

@brent

If you are retired, no social life and not in good terms your relatives, Balik Pulau is actually a very good place for you to stay. But if you have to go to work everyday, why torture yourself everyday?…:)

Blur :@brent
If you are retired, no social life and not in good terms your relatives, Balik Pulau is actually a very good place for you to stay. But if you have to go to work everyday, why torture yourself everyday?…:)

Above, you said buy Batu Kawan. Is there much social life in Batu Kawan?
Very happening in Batu Kawan? Are all your relatives are staying with you and your ancestors were resting happily ever after with you in Batu Kawan?
You contradict yourself la.

People like you probably cannot afford either Balik Pulau or Batu Kawan.
Worse still, dare not make a move and you can continue to rent or stay in your 700sq feet flat
I have seen much people like you, wasting time giving senseless comments.

BP is good for own stay,definitely.the only problem now is narrow road at teluk kumbar,45min to bayan lepas though at peak hour.other than that,good for family

@jon

My children love the cinemas. I heard there is a cinema right opposite the wet market down town in Balik Pulau?

cinema? no lah, where got cinema? it’s a video rental shop lah. That shop ah, half shop is video rental, the other half is sell handphone one.

ah? no cinemas? oh….ok then…maybe also good lah, can do more sports over the weekend instead of sitting in the cinemas. Maybe can join a club or something for the pool facilities. Got or not?

club? want to swim go sea side lah, no club lah!

Wahlan eh! Club also don’t have. What about coffee shop with espresso machine? So basic sure got kuah! Don’t tell me I have to buy my own machine at home!

what expresso machine? instant express 3-in-1 at coffee have lah, not good enough?

Looks like Balik Pulau really lacks daily conveniences, doesn’t sound like a comfortable place to live in (ha mi lan chiau pun boh, mana si lang tua eh)!

I enjoy my eco world life here, who come here build club, cinema, shoping mall make noise I will burn it, don ply ply with me ==

@BP uncle

What about a commercial gym? Can or not? Will you burn it down?

Stayed in BP for 5 yrs… still feeling good. Frankly, the hill road is a bit inconvenient at first but already used to it. BTW i’m from mainland and work in FTZ. i will not move to batu kawan just for Ikea… etc and suffer pay $8.50 daily on the unreasonable long bridge. BUT i don’t mind to travel to Batu kawan once a while when Ikea is ready.

I used to stop by Batu kawan (makan) once a while on the way back to my hometown… Going to boom like all people “hu ha” about… i guess not. Pretty much flat. Personally, i think it will start developing once Ikea or some mega project establish. maybe after 5 years?

Blur :
@brent
If you are retired, no social life and not in good terms your relatives, Balik Pulau is actually a very good place for you to stay. But if you have to go to work everyday, why torture yourself everyday?…:)

Any suggestion where to get a affordable home in Island (landed)?

Hello blur, social life depends on individual. You can go to anywhere you like not only stay in bp. Bp will sure develop. In terms of house pricing if bk price go up for sure bp house go up too.

When i buy tanjung bunga everyone said so far and no social life. End up my friend who said that brought at teluk pahang. No arguement on the location as it cannot change but 10 years you will see the change. Good luck my friend

@New_Owner

Well, that’s similar to asking……can you get a “prestigious” mercedes s-class for RM70k? Caaannn….but the problem is, that RM70k s-class will require you to sacrifice comfort and time because it will give you an uncomfortable ride and frequent breakdowns.

You will definitely be better off buying a RM70k Toyota vios, enjoying much much more comfort and convenience, not to mention super great resale value!…..:)

so conclusion better use 500k buy condo at geortown, don come BP buy 500k landed house, go enjoy ur town life, don cum kacau uncle ==

@BP uncle

When you’re talking about Balik Pulau, you can’t be talking about RM500k s-class from lowe motors, as given a choice, you won’t even think about Balik Pulau if not for budget constraints…..:D

Oh by the way uncle, you do sound like you fit the profile of “retired, no social life and not in good terms with your relatives”, cheer up and be a little bit more open minded lah…..:D

BP is better than the over-sea.

@Familyof5

I know, your questions just a sarcasm, right?hahaha, no such thing in BP. Just an isolated place, small public hospital, no shopping complex, no gymnasium, no swimming club, only 3 petrol stations (the one closest to P3 is about 10-15km-petronas), no hypermarket etc. However, lot of people still believe BP is the best place for family, especially to raise up your kids. Out of town and you can easily get cheap prawn and fish in this area. People do hope everything change within 10 years. But, will BP folks need all these changes? can ask BP uncle.hehehe.

For living in peace for u and ur family, I suggest BP. If u need a modern living, cinema, swimming,clubbing, tuition for ur kids, go find other place. And above all, BP is the cheapest in penang island.

I regret to miss the opportunity to buy the freehold Semi-D, only RM650K at that time.
Only managed to grab the Double Storey at RM468K.
Many penangites spend their childhood staying in flats/condos only and probably will continue so in their life time in Penang Island.

They really do not have a chance to stay in landed property. When there is opportunity, they are not smart enough to grab it.
Blame who? They are full of sarcastic remarks when people grab the opportunity in Balik Pulau.
This is no supermarket la, that no relatives la, no social life la, as if they are living a very high class life with occasionally Starbucks coffee….
Your half a million condo is nothing and no value in the future especially those in Sungai Ara, Relau, air port area….Mark my words in 5 years time
My landed even at remote location in Balik Pulau holds more promise/potential in the future

@FamilyOf5

I think you have a point. In Batu Kawan, you will get to enjoy all these conveniences (cinemas, cafes, modern mall, country/golf club, private hospital, commercial gym etc) very soon, not more than 5 years later.

With easy and speedy access to factories (both FTZ & mainland) that provide plenty of jobs, and plenty of land for new developments, Batu Kawan will blossom into the “Bandar Utama” of Penang in the very near future, while the old uncles in Balik Pulau sit around their house counting their final days, regretting how he missed that chance to own a RM650k freehold semi-D in the DurianLand, or indulging in his achievements of saving RM1 for that kilo of cheap prawns…..:)

Island landed still #1 investment.

BTW, batu kawan will be future johor and island will be Singapore. .. hahaha

@bluefin21
How do u know and how to analysis bp cannot have any changes in future. Please share

Hello, sorry for out of topic. Can i know is it all new house owner in prestige3 plan to install grill ? I know it looks not nice and costly. Just want to get some comments from you

tan :Hello, sorry for out of topic. Can i know is it all new house owner in prestige3 plan to install grill ? I know it looks not nice and costly. Just want to get some comments from you

Yes, for me, that will be my first thing to do. Looking for type of grill which is more robust/strong.

@Jack
Good one..!

anyway we can plan and do it in bulk so we can get cheaper price, all happy with cost savings

Thanks, if all install grill in bulk it should be cheaper. not sure how much budget to install 3k/5k/10k ?

From property investment stand point ALONE, chances higher that the landed in BP may outperform price of condo in Relau, Sg Ara in next 10/20 years.
(disclaimer I do not OWN any CONDO there)

Bear in mind, the TIME ( is a also Money?), Extra petrol, car wear/tear…..which come to the “total cost of ownership”.
Then how about the children (govenment not Int’l) schooling, tuition etc?
But BP One glaring advantage NO TOLL compare to BW! Unless State want to build tunnel la.

The choice is yours……

Besides Grill, i suggest install Alarm system with CCTV too. ( i m not alarm salesman/boss)

it doesnt matter if the landed house in BP, BK or even Island glades…..security for family is the MOST IMPORTANT.

for grill, alarm system with cctv , count me in…..i hope to save some on these stuff….any cement work recommend ? i wish to extend my backtard and extend higher my li pa….lol

*backyard

OC by July, now should plan..
count me in for grill, no alarm/cctv.

The short-sighted guys always give(gave) negative comments to the new house buyers. 40years ago they asked the Greenlane new house buyers near Caltex station ” Alamak, why you bought the house so far from town?” 30years ago,same question was asked to those buying Bayan Baru.20years ago,same question repeated to those buying Batu Ferringgi. Now,besides the same question and plus very winding hilly road lah…lah….In the end, all these houses’ prices rocketting up 3 folds ( some even higher)! They ends up day and night banging own balls! Please take note that the tendency in the ISLAND development is towards the southern and western part of the ISLAND.

Hi Robert Tan, you sound like someone who is desperately trying to sell off his property in Balik Pulau. Financially not stable is it?

chew :OC by July, now should plan..count me in for grill, no alarm/cctv.

Actually, My S&P is stamped in April 2012 and if the OC can only be obtained in July 2014 instead of April 2014 (2 years) , that means about 3 months delay.
How do you I claim from developer? or will the developer automatically pay us for the the 3 months delay?

kedahan :Hi Robert Tan, you sound like someone who is desperately trying to sell off his property in Balik Pulau. Financially not stable is it?

Comprehend people’s comment sincerely, You didn’t have one iota of evidence about what you claimed. You do not gain anything by provoking people, Do you?
It’s called insensitive with a touch of stupidity

@kedahan
Did I ? Go and read my message cautiously, which sentence contains “you sound like someone who is desperately trying to sell off his property in Balik Pulau.” The house price in the 3 locations I mentioned are(were) escalating very fast,and those who gave negative comments regarding to these 3 locations shall regrets.Please do not contort my meaning. So far, I never insulted or incited hatred to anyone,and I am not a hatchet man either.If again cannot get what I mean, get someone who is proficient and competent in English to explain.

kedahan :
Hi Robert Tan, you sound like someone who is desperately trying to sell off his property in Balik Pulau. Financially not stable is it?

Why remove my comment? ??? Is this kedahan=Bluefin21??? Same irritating comment with nonsense.

@kedahan
Are you an I-d-i-o-t? Hopefully this comment won’t be remove.

@BPApek
Good answer, this is so call city life ppl that need this. I bought for stay and plan to enjoy the natural kampung style : fishing, korek siput, cycling, smoke at the local coffee shop, durian + etc. Forget about the club swimming pool, gym and coffeebean..

@huh
Me too.count me in for grill im agree that we do it in bulk so we can get cheaper price.

@kedahan
Please mind your skill to understand for reading english or maybe ask for translate.

count me in for grill too.

anyone visit the site recently ? is the road full complete ? how about the park and fishing area ?

i visit last Week, road not ready yet. phase 1 and 2 sold. Now phase 3.

@weng
part of the river has been reclaimed for kampung ppl. i feel that the funny-look houses on the side of phase2 dst somehow spoilt the nice view..

I think most of the small houses near to DST will be extended soon after they get the key. the house currently too small. Hope this will not disturbing people around that corner. I do hope so!

The house is free to exchange the old landed one right? Looks weird than previous house

Went to the site, noticed the TNB service mains been installed; TNB gave us aluminium cables(not copper instead).A major drawback for aluminium is chemical reaction with any copper connector if not taken care of, and the cables will be overheated very fast. I fully understand the problem TNB facing:- theft by using copper cables. Owners need to check meterboard connections for safety.

Yes, count me in for installation of grills and may be cctv. BP is a nice place to stay. I love it.

@Robert Tan,
very thanks for sharing this…very valuable sharings

Any idea they still don’t claim for the 25% balance from selling price from us/bank ?

not sure have unify in BP?

no unify in BP at the moment. For internet, not all can get. currently, really difficult to get internet connection here- no more empty port for internet cable. unless you have contract with TM, then you can bring along to new house in BP.otherwise, need to q n wait for your turn. This what been told by my friend who work with TM.

@jon

Because TM knows BP people like to live in isolation and be left alone mah, so most likely no need internet also. So why bother upgrade the infra.

yes, new house/taman really difficult to get internet connection, unless TM upgrade their system in BP

oh shit , have to use our phone to connect to internet? cheng!

TM also has limited resources. They don’t go around blindly throw their money in places where they know will yield no returns. For this and next year, they will allocate their resources in Batu Kawan and georgetown, obviously. For BP, maybe have to wait for another 10 or 20 durian seasons.

@Robert Tan

if theft is rampant then should report to authority for more actions such as more Ronda.

Security is very very important

Lastime, sales girl said that all the cable will be under ground, last week went to site and saw TNB cables are located in front row. Spoiled the outlook of the project. Any idea ?

uncle,,better go stay in jungle or durian farm,,,,跟不上时代，modern living now….encourage to built more shopping complex at bp…wasting time & petrol rounding the hill for just grocery shopping at town ….paham….encourage to develope bp..

if u stop develop bp, i boom uuuuuu..

No Astro still ok, no internet cannot la..
Maxis or ceIcom boardband got signal there ?

don’t worry.bp not ulu until tat. my gf who stay in bp got internet.she using portable celcom.At this moment many place in penang don’t hav unify include greenlane (low density area).however u can use stremyx. Got up to 8MB package for streamyx. Astro also can use thr. Don’t simply listen to other ppl who don’t even stay thr.

@ng

That’s what they are saying. Even streamyx also got limited ports. I guess that is why your girlfriend is using portable celcom.

@duriantree
lol don’t simply judge anything too early.she got free portable celcom from proton.buy car free 1yr internet please check it out.I’m sure streamyx can use there.I got frens who stay at thr too. every nite also online.

Hi ng, cool down, cool down. We didn’t say streamyx is not available in balik pulau, but just limited ports available. Why all tensed up?? Relax lah bro! Got house you want to sell in BP, but struggling is it?

Yeah, it’s tough. Better let go as soon as you can, once people start to see things coming up in Batu Kawan, everyone will rush there already. By then ah, no one would touch BP.

@duriantree
looks like u r a person who like to judge people by ur own view.wats make u think i’m the flipper or investor?anyway i jus telling the truth.i got bp hse is for my own use.my future wife family all at thr (3 generation grown from thr)
what is the point for me to sell bp hse?price increase o drop non of my business now bcos it is for my own stay. No angry and no offence.
Duriantree,jus chg ur attitude to the people of keep judging ppl by ur own imagination.thats really funny to me.

sorry.my gf use maxis portable not celcom portable.remembered wrongly :p

@duriantree

You are the only one not everyone will rush Batu Kawan. Understood ?

BP is a nice place for own stay.that for sure.internet not a main issue.n yes,can ask TM,we have to q for internet.wait for someone terminate their service.can ask TM.

I am staying and working in KL, however, I still think BP is a nice place and worth investing. At 4-600k, the double storey link house is attractive. Though BP may be considered ‘remote’ to some, but I also see this as its ‘selling point’. KL people may not believe one can still get a landed property at this price on the island. I remember some 24 years ago, many of my friends refused to buy property in Puchong, claiming the place too ‘ulu’ lah’, too far lah, ex-mining land no good lah….now, it is a booming town, and guess how much was the price of a double storey link house on ex-mining land then? Around 55k! I did not buy there either but bought an apartment that was double the price and half in size @ Old Klang Road. Do I regret? Yes. I am. But, I do not think I will regret for investing in BP. It may take 10 years to see BP grown into mature township, but the land is scare and population is growing, where in Penang Island that you can still find landed property at this price?

Batu kawan good meh? Because of second bridge ? But why still many people using penang bridge and less for using second bridge ? This happened always coz the traffic jam in bayan lepas during 5pm.

I checked with TM, if there are more than 50 applications they will add in new port for streamyx.

Batu Kawan still long way to go…at least 10-12 years.

Any idea why Developer still didn’t proceed for collection from the bank the balance of 25% of selling price ? An dif OC is June or July, why the road is still not yet completely done ?

I think the developer and the architect concerned is now looking into ways to encounter the problem of land sinking issue. I do not think the local council will issue OC/VP to the developer if seeing the house condition like this. The sinking degree is really very bad.

They will obtain OC la. Developer is kawan baik council.

Most of the S&P agreement signed on or before June 2012, if the developer cannot delivere the house before June 2014,the developer MUST compensate!!!! As such,they must “kou teen” the council, by hook or by crook.

Please read today Kwong Wah Jit Poh(28/4/2014) regarding PLB takes over Paya Terubong Majestic Heights Project. There is something very important related to Prestige3 house owners, sorry I cannot elaborate more.

went to the site yesterday, condition a bit terrible. they try really hard to fix the problem-lot of workers even though sunday. can see tehy touch up the crack section, really obvious for corner lot. for intermediate, not so sure as the door is locked. still dont know inside yet. hoping the problem can be fixed.
Not really sure they can kawtim with council or not, but one of state assemblymen bought the property as well.

I checked with the agent last week, confirm July get OC.

@Robert Tan,

Please elaborate a bit a content, maybe has some differences from your perspective.

Regards

http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2014/04/27/115.html

大华高原组屋复工在望 国云集团也将建7658间可负担屋

（槟城27日讯）搁置18年的大华高原2A组屋复工在望，作为白武士的国云集团（PLB）也将在同一地段的64英亩土地，兴建7658间低于40万令吉的可负担房屋，复兴计划或将与全新屋业发展同步进行。

建竣后缴付1万可拥屋

槟首长林冠英周日巡视大华高原2A组屋，向苦等18年的购屋者形容恶梦即将结束，好梦将要到来。购屋者将在组屋于18个月内建竣后，缴付1万令吉，便能拥有他们的屋子。

在复兴计划下，国云集团只要上呈所有文件，便能获得动工令。

首长说，民联州政府308执政后，便致力解决搁置房屋计划的“手尾”，以迈向居者有其屋目标。是次复兴计划是一小步，只有跨步走出才能迎来成功，国云集团要完成复兴计划，才来谈“其他”的（新屋业发展）。

在首长要求国云需要先完成复兴计划时，国云集团执行总裁拿督王籽云马上反映上市公司有资金问题，复兴计画有必要与新屋业发展同步动工。

首长强调复兴计画须先完成

首长强调，同步同工没问题，但复兴计画必须优先完成。

@Laurence

Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It really helps for people who are in the process of making their property investment.

The case you mentioned regarding Puchong vs Old Klang Rd is a very relevant example when you make comparisons between BP vs Batu Kawan.

Batu Kawan precisely has the ingredients that Puchong had 20 years ago for rapid development, namely huge huge tracks of relatively cheap, flat, and fresh lands available for new development. Puchong was made very accessible for people who are looking for affordable housing by building new highways (in our case, second bridge). As Puchong grows, more and more employment opportunities were created in the area (same goes for Batu kawan). Puchong also acts as a MODERN commercial/residential centre for older surrounding towns (same goes for Batu Kwan to Butterworth, SP etc).

If you buy BP, you will end up making same mistake as Old Kland Rd, when you thought it should be a better bet since it is near KL (like BP is on Penang island). But things don’t work that way. Batu Kawan is a once in a lifetime opportunity, don’t have your judgement blurred by your cravings for durians!

S&P written must give VP in within 24mths, means in 1 week’s time left they need to deliver. So what is the procedure for developer to compensate buyers?

hmm, i wish to know too 😉

durian = durian. can’t even get what Laurence said.
What Laurance meant is he regret to buy nearer town area apartment with higher price compare to “remote” landed house. This situation is like comparing somewhere near georgetown/town area luxury million condo to ‘remote’ BP landed house. He is not regret to invest BP landed house. Not like what u meant batu kawan vs BP? pls read again and again to understand before voice out.

@ng

Laurence is not regretting buying BP instead of Batu Kawan now because he failed to learn from his lesson of Old Klang Road vs Puchong, and he failed to see the similarities between Batu Kawan and Puchong. But once Batu Kawan starts to unfold itself, he will regret it. Not only regret he bought BP instead of Batu Kawan, but also regret he did not learn from his first lesson….:)

@ng

As a matter of fact, Batu Kawan will be even more successful then Puchong because it will have both the characteristics of Puchong & Bandar Utama. Once in a lifetime opportunity, don’t miss out. You have to start tuning your brain to Batu Kawan while it is still relatively greenfield, and make preparation so that you are there when it happens. Don’t waste your time in BP.

For an average joe, you can easily pick up a couple of million ringgit from Batu Kawan. Consolidate your asset and get your finance right. Don’t waste your time picking durians in Balik Pulau.

Gold is all over the floor in Batu Kawan. You have to aim for gold, not durian….:)

😀 good then and thumbs up for u to get gold land. anyway durian also a good price, red prawn durian 1pc can sell in singapore for sgd50

I think is for different type of market.

For BP is more for residential and BK is more for Commercial..

The comparisation to KL should be BP = SK and BK = Puchong

Both property also go up now. If you want to do business choose BK and better lifestyle BP.

Likewise, MEX hwy is like PG 2nd bridge. now SK going to connect to MEX same as BP going to connect to 2nd bridge.

The only different is KL more agressive development than PG. Concept is more or less the same..

Buy where is buyer choice

The only advantage for BP is the Airport and good hospital still in PG island.

BK as commercial area ; pay toll is a must. But Prai house will go up one day to million for dst when material price + gst is up.

Indirectly, this explained that island house price (except BP) will go up at least 2-3 times for foreign investors game. Whereas local investor game only at BK or BP.

@investor77

“Likewise, MEX hwy is like PG 2nd bridge. now SK going to connect to MEX same as BP going to connect to 2nd bridge.”

Hahahaha….how does BP get connected to 2nd bridge? That’s the big issue with BP you see. There’s no decent connection to civilization, only mountain roads!….:D

And by the time BP has any proper connection (if at all it happens), you would already have all the actions in Batu Kawan (Ikea, Ikano, Private uni, hospital, country club etc) ready. And once it starts, it will keep rolling, I am sure you’ve seen that in Bandar Utama and Puchong.

@investor

You are right. Hospitals on island is better then mainland. However, it will take longer for you to reach a good penang island hospital from BP then Batu Kawan!…..:D Hahahaha…Now you see why it’s stupid to stay in BP, well of course, unless you like picking durians. But please remember, if a durian falls on your head, by the time you reach a good penang island hospital, most likely you’re already dead.

ya bp always no development need to tunggu durian 5 year..lol

i think no need to say who is stupid who is smart here…
we will not know people buy property is what purpose, they buy what they like for some reasons and also no need to tell us too, no manners at here to keep saying ppl stupid and sound like he/she is smart enough….

@manners
u r right.have u ever seen a brain inside a durian?no right? the most durian have is jus yellowish flesh.lol

Anyway for own living buyer, jus choose an affordable place which near to your work and your family/relatives. Don’t worry too much about pricing drop or increase for short term, all the houses price will increase for long run.

For investor,
some choose BP because
1)It is the last piece of affordable land on island.
2)BP hospital will develop
3)The highway from Teluk kumbar to Queensbay is in progress. This will ease the bottleneck at teluk kumbar. (balik pulau widen road is link to teluk kumbar)

some choose mainland because
1)There is more develope compare to BP like BM,Juru.
2)2nd penang bridge link from Batu kawan
3)For batu kawan it will develop soon but we still don’t know how fast it is. At the moment only Ikea sign contract to build at there and it will take 5yrs to complete built.

So judge your own which is better for u to invest for short or long term and stop talking about how well you invest,if u r good enough,u already have lots of land in penang before any developer build a house there (before 2008) cheers~~

hi,durian
You made a huge blunder by:-1) say all P3 owners are stupid.
2) malicious cursing.
Do not ever tell me your school teachers NEVER taught you how to respect others?
Do not ever have a wicked and malicious mind to curse others. Bear in mind:- What goes around,comes around.People bought BP houses are their personal choice, and NONE of your buisness!

@Robert Tan, ng, manners

Haha, yes I know, very bad attitude of me to call people stupid.

Oh yeah, I have been taught that since young, by parents, teachers, grannies etc.

In real world, you can’t call someone stupid, STUPID, coz it’s rude. You can’t call someone ugly, UGLY, coz it’s bad manners….:D But in cyberworld, haha….:D

To durian and those who have the same mindset (claim himself is the smartest and did very well in investment)
U r nothing in some people’s eyes actually.U did know nothing of some people here and just use your small brain to judge how ppl lousy in property investment and etc. Hello~~ how did you know some people did in the past?some already invest in George town old house and earn x10 of the $ they invest (before penang earn unesco heritage title). And some already earn more in 2008 till 2012. U are just a slow act and a follower in some people eyes. Are u the smartest and the best investor? LOL (u are just a small potato)

Ha…….ha….think yourself as god of cyberworld meh? Simply call people stupid is because not be able afforded to buy any propeties in island or batu kawan OR maybe people arround u always call u stupid? Kesian….

our old folks reminded us not to say anything bad about others…u should go back to school la duriantown. If we say something good to others, good thing will come back to us.

Come on guys, whoever like BP, there are 4 more units to be grab in prestige 3!!! Get one for yourself! Great discount still available

After OC obtained,what will be the market value ? i thought phase II all sold out ? Still have 4 units available ?

How about the P3 apartments, will developer continues after this? Have buyers sign s&p yet? If not, probably developer will move to majestic heights since they already committed there to complete in 1.5years.

I guess they do it both together.They just need to get more contractor to do both projects.

anyone visit the site ,please share the progress ?

@weng
recently been there, looks like stagnant. very doubtful we can have the keys on or before june2014.

Anyone know why no progress recently? There is no progressive bank withdrawal as well.

932! ah

just visited the place two days ago, can say 90% work done for all units. All TNB installation to each unit almost done as well. Just that big hall and surau still under construction. if they wait these two then apply for OC,perhaps might be delayed a bit. I think, at least end of the year for OC if there no issue raised later on (crack etc).

Apartment already under construction, already in second floor.

bob :just visited the place two days ago, can say 90% work done for all units. All TNB installation to each unit almost done as well. Just that big hall and surau still under construction. if they wait these two then apply for OC,perhaps might be delayed a bit. I think, at least end of the year for OC if there no issue raised later on (crack etc).
Apartment already under construction, already in second floor.

Thank you for the update

they put the second layer for the road now. may submit for OC by end of this month. September may get the key….i guess so. wait n see

they closed the access road to the side project. almost done. OC will be awarded in July.

The phase III already sold out 10 units, price will be increased if demand is go to 50% sold out.

only 10 ? , very low leh

Soon when show hse is ready,sales will b better.

Anybody hv an idea,y they put TNB pillar in conner lot compound?is that what been proposed?

For houses over 40years old,the u/g cable terminates inside the premises’ outer wall, but soon TNB facing many problems(be it maintenance or emergency). Now TNB relocates the u/g cables outside and the most suitable location is the road junction as they can connect the consumers’ service mains to the lamp-post with zero problem. By this way easy for them to do maintenance & etc too.FYI,there is no way to eradicate(eliminate) the use of lamp-post(world wide).

but hior the cables made the project look low class, flying across all houses balcony …. apalah~

@huh

Prestige V (Batu Maung) also same issue… TNB cables are flying in front all the houses.. Really disappointed with this kind of layout. How come other developers & projects are underground system ? Due to developer or TNB master plan ? Any1 concerned on this ?

Is due to developer. Now all cost charge to buyer.

Why u bought the project last time? U agree the price and condition only signed the snp, right? Then why the complain now??????

???, snp ada mention how TNB will lay their cables ?

huh :
???, snp ada mention how TNB will lay their cables ?

Underground or not underground, u also dont know when u sign snp? Or u expect u pay not underground price but u demand developer to give u underground?

KoP :@huh
Prestige V (Batu Maung) also same issue… TNB cables are flying in front all the houses.. Really disappointed with this kind of layout. How come other developers & projects are underground system ? Due to developer or TNB master plan ? Any1 concerned on this ?

Got but all household’s meters must be shifted(relocated) to the front pillar adjacent to the letter box. As for our P3 the developer never include these meters to be outside when submitting project plan to the TNB.

that mean according to @Never, we need to pay? but pay for wat ?

Yes, we all need to bear the extras charged by TNB. It is nothing wrong with the developer as they have to consider the sales and marketting strategy. If they provide this package,sure enough the price will be higher. Anyhow it is too late now.

If the tnb cable go at back road looks nicer, now we see too many pillars in front of the house. Got light and tnb pillar.

@tan
I look at map. Prestige 3 have high chance kena tsunami because its facing Indonesia. I wonder buyer take this into consideration when buying?

Easy for TNB and telecom to install cables by pillars. Old house’s back lane always car blocking the road tnb/telecom have problem to remove some car.. underground cable is harder to install cable and might dig road again if not able to handle the capacity or upgrade to fiber/unify one day.

To be honest, cannot consider so much now due to that is the only place i can afford in the island.

I went last saturday afternoon, the river beside looks like have a lot fishes. I can hear the water sound

@tan

You should forget about balik pulau and focus on Batu Kawan, before Batu kawan becomes more expensive than BP, and that’s going to be very soon.

For corner lot owner,tnb pillar located in ur compound.so funny though

@Robert Tan , we need to pay for wat ? i really catch no ball, lol

@Robert Tan
Many thanks Robert Tan.. Bo Pian.. U get what u paid 4..
the man-made lake – also another substandard product.. Zzzz

@chan
Sorry i am not familiar at batu kawan. Can you recommend potential project there?

@huh
For details, please check with TNB for the authorized answer.

I think the overall for this Prestige 3 is no bad. i tried to survey there last week, quite and nice environment.

There are also a lot of government office, convenience store. The developer also reserve a huge land for the welcome the Hypermarket investor to invest. It may take some times to develop, it only need to take time. Last time QB area also not so good as now, but time is proven to us that as along as developer interest to develop, then the place will be better than now

For those who dream to own the landard house in Island, i will say there is still a good place to buy. If you need a lot of entertainment, then you are not suitable to stay there as for me, that place is really out of the city noise. You will feel no more any tension of traffic jam, car horn sound, etc when you stay there. Of course, teh journey to go back to home will be more longer as normal. But please ask yourself, in Island, which area no traffic jam? Just be patient on the road. Stay at BP, you will definitely enjoy a peaceful weekend or rest time.

@Landard
You are agent or developer? If you are developer, did you do any precautionary measure during tsunami?