Carnation Villa
Carnation Villa, a gated & guarded community housing scheme strategically located within fast growing Bukit Minyak/Juru township and just a few minutes walk to Carrefour Bukit Minyak. It has good accessibility to North-South Expressway, via Juru interchange which is only few kilometers away, and mere minutes drive to Penang bridge.
This development comprises 88 units of 2-storey terrace, 54 units of 3-storey semi-detached houses and 16 units of 2-storey shop offices.
Property Project : Carnation Villa
Location : Bukit Minyak, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Terrace, 3-Storey Semi-detached & 2-Storey Shop Offices
Tenure : Freehold
Land Area: 22′ x 72′ (Terrace), 36′ x 80′ (Semi-D)
Total Units : 158
Indicative Price (Terrace) : RM 408,000 onwards (Terrace)
Indicative Price (Semi-D) : RM 636,000 onwards (Semi-D). Additional RM 110,000 for optional lift installation.
Developer : Oriental Max Group
Contact No.: 04-356 5860
Location Map
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how much the selling price?
3 storey also got lift now.. first in mainland?
Updated with pricing.
What is the maintenance price for the gated housing area per month?
@Tamiya
RM165/month for double storey intermediate, the price are varies with type
call to ask, the double storey intermediate is RM408k, double storey inter-corner is RM508k, double storey corner is RM545k/603k, dont know correct or not.
I wish this project will be more advance & more quality than Twin Villa, such as underground cables (not same as lighting poles’ cable can be seen in Twin Villa), quality tiles & stunning garden landscape (not same as poor maintenance at Twin Villa’s children playground such as long grasses etc).
Another great project by Oriental Max, they are the G&G expert. The price has mark RM400k++. All landed property in mainland in prime area will mark above RM400k.
@Ah Dog
G&G expert? I still not confident on Oriental Max’s management on gated & guarded housing project, for eg Twin Villa in Bukit Minyak, the children playground poorly maintenance, the security guard not professional (simply allow strangers to drive in & out without registration) etc.
Maintenance fee for the semi-d is how much??
Developer requires RM10k for booking even the house model not available for view, developer just provide poster to view & the broucher given to buyers not showing the house specifications & floor plan, are buyers protected under the housing act in Malaysia?
@Tit
I think most of the time Oriental Max is selling house in this way, without house model or real house, but start selling the house. Central Way is sold out over 80% within 2 months of launching without putting any advertisement.
Any expert here to comment about Carnation Villa compare to Orange Villa, which is more prefer to buy?
Is the land area currently full with Kelapa Sawit plants? That’s what I saw when i passed by the area. Need to go to their office to check out… so the maintenance is about 10 cent / sq ft.
my cousin just booked a lot… i think the price is quite reasonable for 22″ x 72″. Its certainly wider than normal teres house nowadays.
@Micky
The road access to Carnation Villa far more better & wider than Orange Villa. Before reach the Orange Villa, there is Taman Betik Indah (27 units) on the left, narrow road of about 40ft become very congested for residence once two housing projects (taman betik indah & orange villa) completed.
On the other hand, i prefer Carnation Villa because of Carrefour & restaurants such as KFC, nasi kandar etc just few hundred meters away, very convenience. Both G&G residence with swimming pool, gym etc facilities, price also competitive, anyway, 2-storey terrace house more suitable for small family & easy to maintaine.
@Tamiya
yes, it is. However, the corner lot of terrace house (facing pool view) is RM602k, which is very expensive, ie all the units facing garden & pool is RM60k more, worth to buy or not, it depend on personal valuatiuon. However location is good, near Carrefour & restaurants, furthermore, the house design is simple & modern, far more better than Twin Villas.
@Micky
The location not bad cause near carrefour and i like their bigger build up, and the facing of the house’s main door – facing south or north. The surely better than BM Permai if look on location and also the house price.
The disadvatanges that i noticed on this project compared to Orange villa are:
1. The design of swimming pool and club house not that grand.
2. Cabling of TNB and telecom not on underground (as told by sales person).
3. The internal road will be just a normal TAR road.(as told by sales person too).
4. May be a little near to high voltage cables that normally stood along PLUS highway.
5. The house design especially on terrace type looks so so.
@K9
just wanna clarify your point no.4: i do not think the housing area nearby the high voltage cables, if not mistaken, it 2-3km distance away (as min requirement 500m away is ok already). Meanwhile for point no.5: it depend on personal taste & fave, the design just simple & nice, so does orange villa, also nice.
@MiMi
i just booked one unit of terrace house, agree with u, i like the design & location, very convenience access to Auto City, Carrefour, BM or to the south of Permatang Tinggi.
@K9
GnG housing project suppose cabling underground, i do not understand why Oriental Max does not comply the rules. For almost 2 weeks, the sales of Carnation Villa just about 20 units out of 158 units, sales performancce poorer than Central Way. Maybe poor track record of GnG project of Twin Villa nearby, buyers now become smarter doing research & survey, however, Oriental Max not smarter enough to make improvement.
@Eric
The price is a bit expensive compare to Central Way plus now economy seem no stable compare to last year.
How about if compared with Orange Villa? I am consider to book one either Orange Villa or Carnation Villa, still thinking.
@Micky
Depends what is ur needs, carnation villa is 2 storey while orange villa is 3 storey, and does the 100k++ price different are affordable for u?
@MiMi
i agreed with u on point#5 – the design is on personal taste .. For point#4, i think it is better to go the site to do a survey first 😉 .
@Eric
oriental max should do the cabling underground, as well as the drainage/retention pond.With that in place, the whole GnG will look more grand 😉 . The sales person told me if cabling underground, the house price will be not as cheap as it is now. That is true also :).
@Micky
If you plan to go for GnG, then besides location and it nearby accessiblity, the whole concept of GnG such as given facilities is another important point to be considered too. No doubt, the whole concept of GnG will determine and impacting it house price. Happy choose!!
@K9
Base on current price of terrace house of Carnation Villa, it is expensive than other housing project in BM area, for eg, intermediate unit if without early bird discount of RM30k, is RM439K, the option is to get semi-detached house in Desa Titi Panjang. Therefore, Oriental Max should cabling underground. I am the one who cancel the booking due to cabling issue.
@Eric
ya, i also cancel the booking due to cabling issue, my friend bought the GnG house from Airmas also cabling underground, i think most GnG project in Malaysia start implement cabling, drainage underground, still don’t know why Oriental Max still adopt old fashion & conservative type of housing porject??? Look at Twin Villa, is an example poor design of GnG housing project.
@Eric
Normally house price in GnG will be more expensive if compare to house price in non-GnG or Guarded only concept. This is because of the title of land is different plus developer need to build faciliities such as swimming pool, club house, external gated wall and etc. in GnG.
So if want to compare, better to compare “apple” with “apple” – meaning GnG vs GnG, not GnG vs non-GnG or guarded only…Desa titi panjang is not on GnG concept.. 😉
i book a unit here because it near my working place in Bukit Minyak industrial park, the price of terrace house quite expensive especially corner (RM600k+) or inter-corner units(RM510k+), therefore i choose intermediate for Rm409k. Anyway, for own stay, it worth to buy, for investment, it depend on individual valuation. However, i still prefer owners buy the house & stay, look at most housing projects, after obtained OC, almost 30-40% units are vacant or for re-sale.
I oso booked a unit mainly due to the location but heard that the land and the house cracking, is that true ? Or this is normal ? Can anyone share the best rate offer by bank ?
@pop pop
almost all the bank offer the same competitive rates, i prefer Public Bank, 1st yr, BLR – 2.5, 2nd yr BLR – 2.45, & thereafter BLR -2.4 (current BLR is 6.6 %).
for house cracking, it depend on quality worker, almost every house got crack, minor case or serious. However, i trust Oriental Max able to deliver good quality house.
the shoplot is small 20′ x 70′, price for RM528K (after discount of RM30k), but demand is good, left 6 units (total 16 units). Still thinking to buy one or not…
For the shoplot with the poor location, I decided to drop. Thinking how much is the rental return can it be? Surrounding shoplots with better location, only can rent out for max RM1.8k. Oriental Max always over pricing the property. Think twice my 2 cents…
@Mah
ya, for residential, the location is ok, but for business, i don’t think it worth to buy shoplot in that location, to deep inside (quiet place), afraid nobody purposely pass by unless staying there.
How is the sales of Carnation Villa, is unit of 63 had been sold out?
@Micky
i went to sales office at Juru to check the sales status, only about 22 units sold (total units 158), the sales is not good & very slow due to many reasons such as: uncertainty of economic condition, expensive price of houses, poor management of GnG project by oriental max, many buyers cancel the booking due to cabling not underground etc.
Unit 63 is inter-corner, which is RM518k, not sell yet.
decided not to buy the shoplot because too expensive & the location not so ‘ong’ to do retail business.
@Eric
Hi Eric. Thanks for the information.
anyone knows when to sign SnP? This project is considered good: strategic location, GnG with great facilities & nice house design (either terrace or semi-D). However, the road inside the housing area just 30ft wide, too narrow; the cabling not underground. I still thinking whether to buy one or not.
hi.. Micky,
what your meant by cable not undergraound ? need your advice on that… thanks.
@stsim
cable not underground means we can see telekom & TNB cable hanging in front of our house, most GnG housing project implement “underground” system includes covered drainage system, the residential area not able to see any cables or wires hanging everywhere.
@Ng
cabling not underground seems the hot issue for this project, i wish Oriental Max could hear pur voice, change the original plan, build the houses for buyers need, it is part of marketing strategy.
Any one has the sales person no? as i am interested to get for own stay
can provide me with the info
@Kt
you may visit their show room opposite of Carrefour at bukit minyak, is beside the coffee shop
@JC
the sales office at Juru closed for last 2 days with no reason, Oriental Max really not responsible company & i am doubt they able to manage GnG housing project well? Good luck for buyers who bought the house here…..
Other than the underground cabling and covered drainage system. Another important aspect for potential buyer to consider is whether the developer will land fill the project land to at least the same level as the adjacent Teknik school. The existing housing in the area shows sign of cracking on the building which indicates the soil is sinking.
I’ll only consider buying if the developer take into account above requirements.
@Eek
don’t worry. oriental max always build the quality houses, therefore they will overcome the problem u mention, however they always fail to manage the GnG residential well because they given the completed project to ‘low standard’ agent to manage the GnG residential.
access road to this residential area is convenience & wide, love the simple house design (terrace), consider to buy one…
Really appreciate if anyone can assist me to check what is the current sales status of the 2 storey terrace & 2 storey semi-d & whether are there any discount given. I call up the sales office today & the sales personnel could not even speak proper English & worst of all every question posed resulted in a few minutes wait on the phone line. I got frustrated & cut the conversation short!
@Chong
the current selling price for 2 storey terrace (intermediate) is RM409k, inter-corner RM518K & corner RM542K, all the units price is after RM30k discount. For units facing swimming pool & garden landscape is RM60k more i.e. RM469 for intermmediate; RM578K for inter-corner & RM602K for corner.
meanwhile for 3 storey semi-D is RM636K & facing swmming pool & garden is RM696K. The monthly maintenace fee for terrace unit is about RM165/month. The sale office in Juru (opposite carrefour or beside police shop) open on weekend only.
i wish the above info will help.
@mark
if developer without RM30k discount, the price is very expensive. The unit facing swimming pool & garden need to pay RM60k more is too much, so far most buyers prefer cheaper units i.e. RM409k.
Now more banks are available for the loan for Carnation Villa, may get the better rate from other bank.
@mark
TQ so much for the info!
BTW, does the discount RM30K appeared in SPA? If it does, then at least in the future when we dispose off the property it would reflected we purchase at a higher pricing.
Overheard from frenz that the project have yet to obtain approval from relevant authorities. Is this true?? Have pilling work commence?
@Chong
As i know the SPA only stated the price that we bought, developer won’t add discount price into selling price (this will cause more stamp duty to be paid). The developer will bear SnP, whereas stamp duty & bank loan agreement bear by buyers.
yes, the project yet to obtain the permit/licence, therefore bank still unable to process the loan. However, Public bank accept the loan application. Piling work not commence yet, clearing work has been started (chop down palm oil trees).
i’ve called up the sales office today and was told the selling price for intermediate unit is still maintained as 409k. However the booking fee of RM10k is really too much. The officer told me if booking is cancelled due to personal reason, 2k will be forfeited. This will be my second house in fact. If bank only approve 80% or 70% of my loan application and i cancel my booking due to this reason, booking fee of 2k will be forfeited as well. what a risky try. Is GnG really a concern for a project? I planned to get a semi-d at Desa titi panjang… indecisive…
@may
depend on personal need & requirement, some people insist want GnG for security & better living environment (at least public not simply go inside the residential area), however, it all depend how well or efficiency of appointed agent to manage the GnG residential area. Other option is residence can set up or form own committees to manage the GnG.
for Desa titi panjang, i personally also went to look for that, the access in & out from there not really convenience; meanwhile behind the taman is mosque & malay cementery; some people said it near the river, sometimes smelling during dry weather season. Due to this factor, i prefer Carnation.
for the booking fee, u can go to bank & ask officer for your loan qualification before paying RM10k booking fee, after bank officer check your income & financial criteria, bank will let u know the max loan u r qualified. All the developer do the same thing, if wanna choose the better unit & location of the house, sometimes we need to take some risk.
Just confirmed one unit double storey corner,any idea which banking offers the best rate,terms or conditions?
@psang
u can try Public Bank, 1st yr BLR – 2.5%, 2nd yr BLR – 2.45% & 3rd yr & thereafter BLR -2.4%. Lock in period is 3 yrs (from the date of 1st loan installment commence). The loan mortgage officer can deal with this is Ms Ng (Bukit Mertajam Jln Anson branch).
@psang
Oppps, i mention wrong street name of the bank, is not Jln Anson, the main branch in Bukit Mertajam, i think is Jln Aston, just opposite jit sin school.
@Law
Many thanks for your reply…
thanks Joel… will consider it seriously… @joel
Just went to the site today,wondering about the landfill level(same as opposite taman or technical school)….any one could clarify this matter?
@psang
yes, i check with developer, the landfill will be the same level as technical school beside.
@ng
Thanks and have you confirm your purchase…I think is a good buy if developer meet the requirement and others criteria as mentioned above !
By the way,any idea how many unit have been sold until now?
@psang
@ng
I don’t think the developer do the landfill same level as technical school, although i also checked with developer & replied the same answer as Ng, in my opinion, the landfill only same level as main road in front or same level as opposite Taman. Just wanna know why landfill must same level as technical school?
As 25th Feb 2012, the units sold about 40-50 units, the semi-D sold about 10 units. Sales a bit slow because developer not adverstise & yet official launch.
@Kong
This is standard guidance from survey firm(Jabatan Ukur Tanah) as landfill level should be above sea level(7 ft and above)….a preventive/counter-measurement to minimise flooding or any unforseen ! ……….correct me if wrong !
@psang
if developer follow the rule u mention is good, but do u think Oriental Max willing to put extra money for higher landfill as technical school? And then build the slope (access road) to enter the residential area? I will check with developer again & other relevant authorities to ensure developer must follow this rule from jabatan ukur tanah.
I’m not sure BUT this was clarified by developer during the booking and also from previous comment mentioned above,please come back to us after checking with the authorities…..Nonetheless,do appreciate your effort and looks forward to receive your reply ! Thank you !
@psang, which lot you have comfirm ? i am planning to get a lot, can i be your neighbor ? so i am not alone when moving in hahaha 😀
You are definitely welcome,my unit(double storey corner) is located second row before reaching club house/swimming pool,Thank you !
@Fansen
are u plan to buy unit facing garden landscape or swimming pool? It cost RM60k more of normal price, advantage is more space in front & nobody share to use internal road in opposite houses. I heard developer said internal road only 30f, very small & narrow, the visitor(s) cannot park the car in front of our house.
@Law
ya, i bought a unit facing beautiful garden landscape, hopefully Oriental Max not dissapoint me & manage landscaping well.
Just got approval from bank,any one please advise what are the legal fees looks like(loan agreement,stamping fee,miscellaneous etc) and which lawyer could offers the best rate?
@psang
which bank are u chosen? Developer said must use their panel awyer in order to get free SPA.
Not yet decide which bank as still early,what about “loan agreement” as I understand this is chargeable?
developer only bear the SPA, meanwhile buyers will pay the loan agreement fees & stamp duty. U said just got approval from bank, what does it mean? i thought u have got loan approval from bank. I think i will choose Public Bank, which offer best rate in town.
Thanks for your info’,few banks offers approval(green light) and not yet sign the letter of offer…..
@GT
Loan is approved from Public Bank & will sign letter of offer next week. Ya, Public Bank offer the best rates in town i.e. 1st year BLR -2.5% (i.e. 4.1%), 2nd yr is BLR-2.45% (i.e 4.15%) & thereafter BLR-2.4% (i.e 4.1%). Anyone interested can make appointment with Ms Ng Poh Peng at Bukit Mertajam main branch (Jalan Chee Bee Noor), Tel: 04-539 2212.
As up-to-date (10-3-2012), unit sold is 41 units (double storey terrace 30 units & 3 storey semi-D is 11 units). SPA expected to be signed on May 2012.
What about 2 storey shop-office?
@psang
shop office already sold 10 units, 6 units left.
@monica
Thanks…..Monica !
May i know where is the show house?
i drop by the place today, but didn’t notice any sales office/show room over there…
@newbie
You can find the information in between comment no 1 – 81.
Cheers.
@AhHa
Thanks~~
@newbie
show house not available yet, the sales office is located in front of Carrefour Bukit Minyak (beside police station shop) & it only open on weekend.
potential flood area?
@jo
flood area?? Never heard before, it safe, dun worry.
Any one here kindly advise which insurance company offer the best rate for Mortgage Reducing Term Assurance premium(MRTA),plan to buy separately knowing it is cheaper compare to banking institution..Thank you !
@psang
i just got loan approved from Public Bank, i buy bank’s panel insurance company because it add together with the home loan installment, easy.
@kok
My consider to include bank’s panel insurance if price is reasonable.Anyway how much and how is your banker work out the figure(MRTA)? Thank you !
@psang
MRTA fee is depend on loan amount , number of years cover & the age of borrower, i borrow exact RM400k & MRTA cover for 20 yrs, the fee is RM21k, therefore total loan amount approved from bank is RM421K.
@kok
Thank you Mr Kok..
I just got a unit after comparing against Orange Villa, DNP..a few others. Selling point is the gated, guarded, facilities and location. However, 1st impressions are poor due to the lower landfill compared to the adjoining school, zero samples on finishing, std electrical points, and some misleading artist drawings. The Twin Villas also does not give much of an impression. Was “told” that the final height will be equal to the school and that all cabling and drains will be concealed. It better be.
@allen
if not mistaken, the sample house is being built at site (still in progress), soon buyers able to see the actual unit of the house. i personally also do not trust what developer said such as same level landfill as school beside; house specification; internal road width of 30′ etc, as a result, i do not rush to book & buy, i just wait & see the ‘physical outcome’ then make decision.
@allen
so, did u buy a house there? terrace or semi-D? Developer told me that cabling is not underground but drain is concealed, meanwhile developer also told the landfill also same level as technical school, but i went to the site, the landfill is below the level, probably I will ask developer again to confirm.
@monica
thanks. The level of professionalism the current sales office has and their displayed plans leave much to be desired.
@ng
i did [book]. Bare bones intermediate. It was all due to location and security compared to the other choices i had. The sales person told me that everything was conceled…drains and cables. Now i’m wondering what is the real deal. Anyone has their e-mail?
@allen
i just want to know the sales person name, so i can double confirm with developer again. Maybe developer has change the plan conceal everthing, if it is true, the housing area looks great & nice, i definitely book one unit too.
Any idea what is the current price?
@allen
@AhHa
just check with developer & good news to house buyer, developer has changed the plan, now the cable & drain are concealed. Meanwhile the toilet tiles also changed to full height till ceiling & developer also ensure higher landfill (same level as techincal school).
for the price, i think still the same, RM409k for intermediate terrace house & RM636k for semi-D (after RM30k discount). For houses facing swimming pool & garden, add extra RM60k.
@Low
Thanks… it’s very encouraging to know that some positive changes on the infrastructure.
Btw, when is the last time u get the price information?
Oh…, one more, When should the down-payment take place? Anyone?
@AhHa
the price i got it on 24 March 2012, at that time developer still provide RM30k discount, but i think soon will give less discount due to some changes of infrastructure & house specification.
@allen
Allen what’s the price that you get? Is it the same as mentioned by Low?
@Low
that’s good news. Now what remains is the level of the development against the adjoining school.
@AhHa
yes it is AhHa.
@AhHa
booking fee is RM10k, 10% downpayment upon signing SnP in May or June.
@AhHa
Not forgetting also we may need to check with developer such as conceal wiring for CCTV,alarm system connection,termit treatment as this is to ensure no additional work(knocking/drillng floor or wall,remove tile or painting etc) in future just in case anything happen…
Is this project with Unifi Ready? I checked with Orange Villa, it comes with this feature.
@Low
The price has been increased RM20k i.e. developer only provide RM10k rebate for house buyer effective 1st April 2012.
@Jack
this project not come with unifi, most house buyers just concern about cables conceal & level of landfill, since developer fulfull these two criteria, we are happy.
@allen , @Low
Thanks for confirmation and information.
I noticed from the flyer (illustration design above) it seems the house will not be equipped with fence. It will look more friendly environment and neighborhood. Does anyone know who will manage the security?
@monica
Are you an agent or owner? If you an agent, is it possible to provide the layout plan (the one with doors and windows diagram)
@monica
Reason, is because based on the layout provided above. It’s not clear whether it’s a door / window only at the middle (beside dining table). As for the living hall, behind TV cabinet (assumption) whether will there a window or not.
This is base on corner type house.
Thanks
@AhHa
i m not agent, i m one of the owner, i m not sure the details as u mention, i bought intermediate unit, therefore did not ask more of corner unit. As i know developer is going to build sample house at the site (corner & intercorner unit), maybe u can look at actual house unit then make decision to buy or not.
Developer told me house will equip with brick fence & steel gate. After house completed, developer will appoint professional agent to manage the security, if house owners not satisfy with the service, owner may set up committee to manage.
@monica
Thanks… Yeah, will try to visit the sample house for confirmation and would like to check about the R&R (Rules & Regulation, if they have) of the community.
Just visited, Orange Villa forum. The community like going for general election and hot debate. Some even debate about cats, dogs, birds… but so far no one highlight on the sampah matter.
Wondering how garbage collection process like for this project. Hope the management doesn’t simply put a bin (especially no enclosure) outside the house.
@AhHa
frankly, i did ask developer how to manage the “sampah” (garbage collection), they cannot provide me the exact answer because i saw the layout, the internal road only 30ft wide is difficult for garbage truck to reverse after enter the end of the terrace house. One of the staff told me that mini truck will go to collect sampah on each house .
i did not read the forum of Orange Villa, i.e. always top & most discussion, actually they are suitable to become committees & manage the residential area.
@monica
The siteworks on the sample house is progressing super fast. But i am concerned over the potential oil palm tree stumps at the clearaing. As the developer is under pressure to increase the level, i hope that organic matter does not get burried as a result of this landfilling work to cut cost. Such material can cause immense problems to the structure in later years.
@allen
any idea when the show house will get ready?
@newbie
sorry, no idea. Currently only the foundation is done, and since they are building an entire block as a showcase, i wouldnt think it’ll be anytime soon. Not within the next 3 months for sure. I’m more concerned about the quality of the land clearing work and subsequently compacting the landfill BEFORE construction progresses.
@allen
I trust oriental max, they build quality houses all the times, don’t look at design of Twin Villas, the house quality is superb as well as other projects in Butterworth & in Bukit Tengah (central way).
When to the site, noticed the progress quite fast. Floor has been raised but not as high as school site but it’s better than no raise at all.
Get information it seems that the developer only raise the floor after the corner stud is up. Some developer mentioned this method is used to cut cost but will cause house not as strong as the other way.
Does anyone has any expertise on this matter? Although nothing much can be done now since it already up. At least some insight information like this will good for knowledge… Who knows what might happen in future, since recently can feel earthquake..
@AhHa
Proper landfill needs complete removal of all organic matter, and compacting, after the infill. If there is organic matter, decay will cause differential settlement. Same goes with the need for compacting the infill. Since this is a critical part of overall stability, i’m wondering why the palm trees are still standing. They should have been cut and cleared by now with earthworks on the whole site to ensure that the soil is compact.
i saw the house design they put the basin out side the wash room, so mean that you walk in the bed room you can saw your basin. and the kitchen they never put the washing machine waster input and ouput. oriental max design for customer useless….very bad project….for those people already purchase the house better go check…
@tony
@tony
i saw the house design they put the basin out side the wash room, so mean that you walk in the bed room you can saw your basin. and the kitchen they never put the washing machine waster input and ouput. oriental max design for customer useless….very bad project….for those people already purchase the house better go check…
@tony
DNP project is better becuase they design to care customer use in future…example: 1.washing machine water input and output and 13amp point.
2.basin put inside the wash room.
3.heater point every wash room.
3.car park install water point for washing car.
4.install auto gate point.
5.install alarm system in the house.
@tony
@tony
guys your want to buy oriental max project better think about that….
yes is true i just ask the oriental max regarding the basin they tell me is new design and i was surprise what is new design you tell me the basin put outside the wash room and you can saw in your bed room is call new design????
i think the designer got problem and he cant care customer inconvenient….
@christin
yes is true i just ask the oriental max regarding the basin they tell me is new design and i was surprise what is new design you tell me the basin put outside the wash room and you can saw in your bed room is call new design????
i think the designer got problem and he not care customer inconvenient….
Dear oriental max,
please refer others developer project before you build the carnation villa project???
learn how to care customer in future use????
@christin
Which project that you would like to recommend?
@tony
just wait to see the sample house before making any comment & critic developer performance. Who told u the basin is outside the washroom? Just mention the staff/sales person name, i will check with the developer top management. Thanks.
@christin
@tony
where both of u get the info? Sample house still under construction, very curiousity the info provided.
If we look at the layout plan (corner and inter-corner), there is a white box outside of the washroom at the 1st floor. It’s not sure if that white box represent basin.
@Ovilla-My
i will check with developer soon & clarify this matter.
@monica
Monica, pls check with them on how they plan to compact the land works at this stage, and if all organic matter is being removed from the site before earthworks. tx
@Ovilla-My
carnation villa
@mega
@tonny
i call the oriental max the sales people 100% confirm to me the basic cannot change still remain outside the bath room and even i want to talk with they manager and manager also dun want to talk with me…
i think i purchase wrong project and bad design carnation villa.. i want to let go the unit…
for those buyer want to buy this project bettter think 100% is not you will regret……
so bad…
i dont think so to buy carnation villa!!! lucky i haven give deposit!!
@alex
i thought want to buy semi-D, since the developer design is very bad i not confident to buy anymore!!! so guy any project recommend???
@mimi
i m looking for semi d GNG in BM area.. thinking about orange villa and carnation. any comment?
After think hard, about basin thing. Actually it’s not bad at all. We just don’t get used to see basin inside bathroom.
But imagine this…
1. when u just wanna wash your hand (especially for guys that finished physical need) it’s not necessary to wet out leg by get into washroom.
2. when u want to brush your teeth, you still watch movie in the room without scared the bubble that come out from your mouth drop on floor.
3. If you plan to have fish as a pet inside your room, you can use the basin as ur aquarium.
4. Or maybe you want to have a pot of green plants, you got a basin as a pot and you can directly water it directly without worry about water spill.
See, you can be creative with it 😀 😀 😀
inside bedroom*, correction for 1st paragraph
@Ovilla-My
you talk too much….if you house like tat are u able to accept???
you work with them help the developer talk nice
@Ovilla-My
let me tell u the basin in the bed room the design is year 1970+++ you designer is really uncle…ha…ha…..
we don’t buy uncle design house!!!!!!!!!
Basin outside not bad lar.. imagine during morning rush hour, 1 person can gosok gigi, another person can pangsai mar.. lol
@mimi
@monica
@mega
Yesterday i have checked with devloper, the basin outside the bedroom just propose only, since most buyers not like the design, developer told me that they have changed the plan to put basin inside the bathroom. Oriental Max is willing to listen buyer(s) comment & feedback, any buyer have any suggestion can contact developer.
@Ovilla-My
Ya, i also agree your point, but it has pro & con, the bad thing is the floor in the bedroom get wet & surrounding looks dirty. I still prefer basin inside the bathroom.
@mimi
i also one of the buyer & not working with developer, if developer did a good job i praise, if not, i also critic. Ovilla just provide own opinion & discuss in this forum, not talking much. Try to give feedback & suggestion on developer’s project, pls not argue personal’s viewpoint on specific issue. This website is let buyers know more about specific housing project & the discussion info helps buyer(s) to buy wise decision.
oppps, typing error on last sentence: This website is to let buyers know more details of specific housing project & the discussion info assist buyer(s) to know more & making wise decision to buy the house.
@Lo
i also one of the buyer and i like the basin outside design. How do you know most of the buyer not like the basin outside design ? Developer told me this is modern design and most of the buyer also like it. Pls don’t assume that you’re representing the majority of the buyer here!
@jack
developer received many calls from buyers complain about the basin outside bathroom, therefore change the plan. Actually i m not too concern about this because i bought intermediate unit, basin is inside the bathroom, i m more concern the landfill level, seem not same level as techical school beside, worry flood & land sink after few years.
@jack
i think u should read carefully what did Lo said, he is not represent the anyone, all the info given by him/her was what developer informed, if u like the basin outside the bathroom, just call the developer follow the original plan, don’t attack personal opinion here, thank you.
@monica
@jack
whatever plan propose cannot please or statisfy everyone, developer just follow the majority. Message to Jack: i do not have such power to ask developer change anything, as Monica said, i just said what developer told me.
@monica
i think you should read carefully what was my comment too, developer told me majority of the buyers like outside basin before i reserved a unit there ! Landfill level too low, this also worrying me ! May be need to go to site again before i officially sign the SNP.
@Jack
jack,
don’t sign the SNP it. you need to take time survey others developer project which is the better…
@alex
landfill level too low will be flood…by the way i tell you the behind carrrefour main road every time raining the road will flood and you car difficult to entry. better you go check the road after rain?
Looks like somebody is trying to sabotage this project with different names. Genuine buyers have to beware of this.
@BD
sure bo, ppl say some negative things to warn buyer to pay attention, then u considered “sabotaj” lo..LoL
@rain
You can’t notice it?
Dear Developer,
With so many valued comments and suggestions from above ladies/gentlemen,please put extra effort or do something to improve it and clarify the doubts soonest possible…Thank you
@psang
good! is true i support you!!!
@BD
As genuine buyers, we know the good side of this project, but we might not see the bad side of this project prior paying our deposit or S&P signed. All good or negative comments are welcome so that we can ask developer to improve before it is too late! The show house is on the way, not sure how the quality/given material on show house later on, hope the quality/given material by Oriental Max is promising. I’m wondering anyone will volunteer to take a lead to setup the purchaser comittee to talk to our developer if the quality/material not as what we expected? It may be too earlier to discuss this matter but earlier better than late.
I get know from orange villa site that the group of buyers there are starting taking the initiative setting up the purchaser club, i believe the buyers there are doing the right thing to protect themselves as a genuine buyer at the early phase of the project. So any volunteer to take the lead on forming the purchaser club for carnation villa?
@mimi
You are definitely welcome and despite many feedback,we hope to receive prompt ACTION from ORIENTAL MAX ! Thank you !
@mimi
can consider complected project Palm Villas G&G swimming pool with rooftop good located in Raja Uda……
@Rem
Dear Rem,thanks for your proposal with another project some where..
As we are talking about Carnation Villa project,would appreciate if you could share your opinion,experience or expertise on the same topic !
Thank you for your understanding !
@nono
i don’t think buyers here care on your suggestion lo…most of the buyers care on own stuffs only la, they talk talk pandai la but when come to question on who will volunteer to lead, all keep silent nia lo…too bad !
psang – can lead bo?
@comeon
PSANG,
YOU CAN DO IT WE ARE SUPPORT YOU…
It’s good to share both positive and negative comments here. But I doubt the motive this same person who use multiple names to write and echo negative comments. When someone is doing this, his/her credibility is questionable, though he/she may have a point. Well, I might be wrong though.
Noticed in this forum, community of mainland project(s) has tendency talk or try to setup the group so call “buyer club” or “purchaser community” in which their agenda mostly against developer plan. Why must go through all the trouble? Why not just look for the project that you like?
Unlike island ppl, the community tend to share more constructive information and share information. In which it really help the genuine buyer to evaluate the project regardless for investment or own stay.
I think my comment will get removed by admin again :P…
There is nothing personal here?! so take it easy and analyse the comment. Don’t get into personal matter. We all are phantom anyway 😀 😀
@comeon
Good morning Comeon,
Thanks for your suggetion,frankly speaking there are no issue who is leading the purchaser club or community as still early to say and do not quote me wrongly….
Most important is to share solid information,feedback or comment from all of us with the ojective to have quality living house.This is my second house and I got bad experience with present home……quality issue,pollution,foreigner,insect/termit problem etc and wishing no more nightmare in the near future !(SORRY IF TALKING TOO MUCH).
Dear Carnation Villa buyer,
I am fully support the so called “PURCHASER CLUB” and please count me to be one of member ! Do keep me inform the meeting place(date/place/time) !
Best Regards
@Jack
if u have paid RM10k deposit & willing withdraw to buy, Rm2k will be forfeited. I am still thinking wheather want to sign SnP or not because of landfill issue, i prepare to lose RM2k to developer. The staff ask me to wait the sample house complete then decide, developer told me the house is same level height as technical school.
@psang
the sales office in front of carrefour is open every weekend, we can gather there to discuss more of forming “‘Purchaser Club”, of course i fully support.
@Lo
Noted and looks forward to meet you all there ! Thank you
@psang
i support if u all plan for “purchaser club”, at least we can shoot developer together if the quality is not good..hehe
@BD
Are you the buyer of Carnation Villa? Everyone use nicknames here, it is normal. May be you’re using mutliples nickname too, who know! 😉 . You can join the purchaser club if you’re one of the buyer here. Please don’t just talk but no actions !
Don’t scare people sabotaj the project if the project is a good buy!
@Lo
land fill houses is no good. the house will crack and porch will sink. there are many houses at Taman Bukit Minyak are having this issues. Find a place that is not land fill.
@CarnationBuyer
Good and all Carnation buyer are welcome…….hopes every one here to participate their point of view(PROS & CONS) concerning this project ! CHEERS !
i missed asking the sales person this question. The artist impressions show a “gate-less and walless”concept. So are there gates and walls between neighbouring units? Anyone knows the answer?
@allen
it will be brick wall & gate door for each house, not the open type concept.
@Lo
tx. Lo.
the progress on the site has been stopped 1 week ago, anyone know what’s going on?
developer scare already don’t want to build the project because a lot complaint???
1) The progress on the site stopped due to the developer is rushing the contruction at another site. It may resumes in May…
2) Developer told the SNP will be signed in May or early June. May Chan lawyer firm will call the buyers to sign SnP, so pls get ready with your loan.
3) Developer acknowledged the land sink issue at surrounding housing area due to poor construction work done by other developers. They will make sure piling and landfill works are sufficient.
4) Juru area may have white ants issue. So we need to tackle this by ourselves before move in. Maybe after we have the community, we can request pest control at one time with discounts. ***Nowadays most places have white ants and it is unavoidable
5) According to my friend who is staying nearby, so far that place is free from flood….
End of sharing….i am not the representative from developer. I am just one of the buyer. Good luck for all of us….
I heard from Construction friend that landfill need to be done and leave it there for at least 6 months to avoid land sink issue for future. 6 months is the minimum period for the land to be compact enough before start any construction. The best bet is to avoid landfill area. Even the same project, got higher ground and lower ground. Try choose unit on the higher ground coz the construction will normally take the earth from higher ground to fill lower ground.
@tbchew
regarding termites (white ants) issue, the developer suppose to solve it before handle the house to buyers, for eg i bought a house from Airmas, the developer also issue 5 years certificate to house owners that housing area is free from termite, i.e. the house will not ‘attack’ by termites for 5 years guarantee.
@ling
it’s ok to take some period of times for landfill & testing, i wish to see the sample house before official signing the SnP.
@alex
Any idea what kind treatment done by developer usually…is it just chemical spray or drilling hole/piping before filling up cement/concrete?
@psang
i have checked with Oriental Max (OM), they won’t solve the termite problem, buyers need to do it by own expense (if case happen), anyway, i have feedback this matter to OM, hope they follow what Airmas did.
Is tat place proven termite home??? anyone stay can give a comment??
last time bayu mutiara also palm oil estate, where ppl would think of termite problem too. But been 6yrs and no ppl compliant about termite, except that carry in by owner.
But it does have a bit sigh of sinking, couple of house have broken underground water pipe and crack on car porch. But overall still ok.
Appreciate you guys comment,nonetheless we are not sure if is it termit area while also don’t have qualify or specialise to rectify…
That’s why before this “disaster” comes across,is good to bring out this matter as it is better to have countermeasure than nothing…
@psang
@Lo
After visited sample house of Orange Villa, I plan to buy a house at Carnation Villa, I prefer 2 storey house with GnG & facilities. After i read all the comments from other buyers, the main concern still landfill level, for termites issue, it is small matter, buyers can solve themselves, if developer solve it before handle key, it much better. Anyway, developer can’t fulfill every buyers need, all i want to do is to wait sample house ready before making final decision.
updates intermediate is rm438k – rm10k discount.
@Dyl
thanks for the info, I knew early bird buyers got RM30k discount, now only RM10k, anyway, i still want to wait sample house completed.
yeap, i got that 30K discount, hopefully its worth
@Tung
Do hope this is small matter and let’s keep our fingers cross ! Thank you
what do u guys thing about the shop lot there? rm558k.
the zone is 2 – 3 roll of shop lots in front of carefour, current price at rm700k. and further down to the alley to school is ard rm400k+ .
on the way to from carefour to new site, there are a roll of shop lot before the school, looks like not so hot.
further down the carnation still have 2 lots of land, maybe will be other housing development i guess. with all develop up, i guess that will be a new township coming up, just like bayu mutiara.
@Dyl
Not much potential on commercial at that corner, unless the road opens up and through to another primary access road. It’s too obscure and quiet now. There’s also a huge land clearing work going on next to twin villas, pararrel to the NS highway. Anyone know what’s that all about?
@allen
True, for now, the road is dead end.
The empty land shd be coming housing development. as u can see from the map, it is all housing area.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Jalan+Bukit+Minyak+2&daddr=Bukit+Minyak,+14100+Simpang+Ampat,+Penang,+Malaysia&hl=en&sll=5.326645,100.444372&sspn=0.012499,0.01929&geocode=FWlGUQAdnJf8BQ%3BFXzwUAAdlJX8BSlfQ-YcALhKMDFuxWB9A8bBJg&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=16&z=16
@Dyl
ya, the area is very good for residential, not for commercial, but why developer still wanna build the shoplots there? Don’t know when the sample house get ready, very excited to see & then book a unit there, it is nice place to stay.