sis :@mr. upsad
If like what you said it is really not an issues on whether to raise the concerns over here or FB, then what is the purpose setting up the purchaser club in FB initially? If you’re one of the member in purchaser club, then you should raise your concern there so that the member in the club will compile your concerns and send to developer. Unless you’re yet to join and not trust purchase club’s capability….or you think not many OV buyers joining the purchaser club and the club can’t fight for your requirement…you said you’re the genuine buyer here, who will trust you !! like the @useyourbrainla said, everyone can claims they’re genuine buyers here and starting to give good/bad comments to this project..funny lo
I went to see the show house, looks good to me except the building color, staircase with its rail. workmanship and quality better than other housing projects !

Walao ye! this sis seems to be soooooo stubborn!! keep repeating the samething to talk about here or FB!! You absolutely don’t get my point! if u r so happy about the quality, then let other unhappy buyers to raise their comments n not to be busybody! if u r the TW management staff, I would say good luck to the company coz you do not see the implications of the damage done for OV project n just know how to hide away or swape away the comments from public! when bloggers are telling the sincere comments u said we sabotage n from competitors, and keep gussing who is who!! like u said: Funny LOH! tired of talking to u!

sis, i am winnie, developer know me. Pls do not deny who this people. If you read carefully, they actually expressing still supporting Orange Villa. Just the dissapointment after looking at the show house are overwhelm them. As for me, i am kind of dissapointed that it below my expectation. Plaster ceiling, staircase railing (need to official infor, not verbal), aircon piping on ceiling expose out. I am purchasing above RM650K OV house, i expect a better quality and finishing.
1) Plaster ceiling is a must
2) Provide air con piping to front and to back for aircon compressor. (for standardization)
3) Staircase railing totally out (pls confirm with official news if agree to chg)
Rgd…….winnie

@mr. upsad

same…I’m tired to talk with you too !

@WinnieWowWow

every buyers including you have the rights to show your disappointment(if have) with what you will get from developer, but come to this forum to ho haa with intention to get others buyer’s attention is not the right ways and not a professional ways too. From previous comments, i know you’re joining the purchaser club, you should hoo ha there and then talk to developer first before you come to hoo ha here, but did you or did you all did that? As you said, developer know you, why not engage developer and raise directly from there? It is easy to talk when we know someone or having good relationship with the other party.

I’m not siding developer or buyer…just gave my views in this topic !

Hi sis, i must be know you. I am on bright side. You are secret to me. it is ok. If you look at my comment since page 2 until page 7, i am the one that strong support TahWah.
Until now, still hope TahWah could listen to us.
This is my basic requirement.
Like other blogger, and buyer, we feedback is not to damage anyone, just we have developer to listen to buyer voice more effectively.

Those from Purchaser Club is not damaging TahWah but feedback to them their weakness.

我超爱 OV 当 我 看 到 它的fflyer。最 后 终 于 买 了 。但是, 当我 看见示范单位, 真的很失望。

Fellow orange villa purchaser club member, we should plan to start phone call to TahWah office already. Seem like Penang Properties Talk here is not so effective.

Plan to visit Orange Villa show house for 2nd time. Hear that they will chg the staircase rail. The previous one really like low cost house quality for a 0.6 million house, who dare to buy. Hope developer hear this can chg.
Will go and see tomorrow.
Anyone have seen the chg of railing?

They should chg it.
Must do it immidiately.
Damage is very deep now.
If they rectify it, i believe, good comment will come.

has anyone re-visit the showroom to check if TW has replaced the staircase with design?

hmm…i wonder TW really need to care what you all think….if you dont buy, there are plenty of others will…sad but true…

i view the showhouse from the TW website, it really good design, anayway after i read the comments from some buyers about the quality, I will visit & see the actual unit before making decision to buy one.

The other thing I concern is access road to OV, although previous comment stated that it will build or provice 40ft road, but I don’t think so because base on my experience & calculation, the road between Taman Betik Indah & mahkamah only 30 ft wide, no room for extra 10 ft. Furthermore, some Taman Betik Indah owners may simply park their 2nd car in front of thier house, the road really congested & become narrow.

Just visited the showhouse again, TW had not changed the stair railing…the construction of the SD already reached the 3rd floor….

From the looks of it, i don’t think the developer is planning to listen to a few buyer…

I think complaining to MPSP regarding the dangerous rail design would be more effective…

Aiyah. Forgot about changing the rail design. No matter what rail the developer put, people will also change it during renovation. Better put the cheap skate one first.

Just visit the site. The lift in the showroom is now working. Syiok ler . Having a got lift in a house

@TL
10 years ago, I change my house staircase rails (to stainless steel rails) and the tiles. 2 storey only already cost me RM4.8K. OV, 31/2 storey, I think will roughly cost you RM30K or may be more …

TL :
Aiyah. Forgot about changing the rail design. No matter what rail the developer put, people will also change it during renovation. Better put the cheap skate one first.

We eveyone will want to change it so should not assume buyers will change n give a cheap stuffs

kpc :
Just visited the showhouse again, TW had not changed the stair railing…the construction of the SD already reached the 3rd floor….
From the looks of it, i don’t think the developer is planning to listen to a few buyer…
I think complaining to MPSP regarding the dangerous rail design would be more effective…

Yeah, I have the same feeling too…

kpc :
Just visited the showhouse again, TW had not changed the stair railing…the construction of the SD already reached the 3rd floor….
From the looks of it, i don’t think the developer is planning to listen to a few buyer…
I think complaining to MPSP regarding the dangerous rail design would be more effective…

it has been weeks since the official launching and no action taken to fix the staircase poor design and safety issue? i hope they will come out the action to prove to viewer that they are customer-oriented company. otherwise, they reputation of the company will be buried by their own. i will keep my finger cross till end of this month, if still no action, then i will look somewhere else… no point to step into the mud where you have known.

I went to the show house again Saturday, i spoken to Mr Cheong and Miss Lee both.
Mr Cheong response me typical business talk, smiling and warm response. I told him basically those in Purchase Group are real people, as those in this forum is real. There are very constructive and want to help Orange Villa success. Of cos, some in the forum are real sabotager. I bring his to look at below:
1) The staircase rail – He say will chg but still waiting for the designer, i stress to them that they better do it fast as this is an eye sore to other. Miss Lee also did not tell me when will chg. Also did not tell me how will be the design look like.
2) The 2nd floor master bedroom balcony – I bring him any show him water drop will spill on to the sliding door and the glass, and may wet the room. Tell him Tambun Indah Pearl Villa developer extended the concrete roof to prevent rain splash on the the glass and door. He told me TahWah cannot do anything as they have submitted the drawing. If chg, will delay the whole thing. He did mention will delay how long. I told him, owner will buy defferent type of awning if the original design is bad and JMC very hart to control the unity of Orange Villa. He say will think about a way in future. Again, not sure real or not.
3) The backyard garden area – Developer only provide brick and the hedge plant. That all. As for those facing the road, an 18 inches brick wall will be built after the hedge plant. Only for those facing the road, like corner house.

Overally, i still like the house, as i already bought it. TahWah have such a buyer like us, sure can lift up this QC level and success in the inductry, if could fulfill our expectation.

I don’t think any developer will put in a stainless steel and glass rails. However, if you want to reduce the renovation budget, you may take a look on BM Permai. 2 storey house with large build up and land area. The price is reasonable.

Sorry … i almost buy the Mini Bunglow (BM Permai, i mean), but luckily not buy, after i found out the quality is lagi suck! Some more hte garden does not look class also. All cable hanging here and there.

@TW Supporter
All the buyers, please join the OV Purchaser FB to have a strong voice to developer. Otherwise, developer may just say that the requests just come from a few buyers and ignore our requests.

WinnieWowWow :I went to the show house again Saturday, i spoken to Mr Cheong and Miss Lee both.Mr Cheong response me typical business talk, smiling and warm response. I told him basically those in Purchase Group are real people, as those in this forum is real. There are very constructive and want to help Orange Villa success. Of cos, some in the forum are real sabotager. I bring his to look at below:1) The staircase rail – He say will chg but still waiting for the designer, i stress to them that they better do it fast as this is an eye sore to other. Miss Lee also did not tell me when will chg. Also did not tell me how will be the design look like.2) The 2nd floor master bedroom balcony – I bring him any show him water drop will spill on to the sliding door and the glass, and may wet the room. Tell him Tambun Indah Pearl Villa developer extended the concrete roof to prevent rain splash on the the glass and door. He told me TahWah cannot do anything as they have submitted the drawing. If chg, will delay the whole thing. He did mention will delay how long. I told him, owner will buy defferent type of awning if the original design is bad and JMC very hart to control the unity of Orange Villa. He say will think about a way in future. Again, not sure real or not.3) The backyard garden area – Developer only provide brick and the hedge plant. That all. As for those facing the road, an 18 inches brick wall will be built after the hedge plant. Only for those facing the road, like corner house.
Overally, i still like the house, as i already bought it. TahWah have such a buyer like us, sure can lift up this QC level and success in the inductry, if could fulfill our expectation.

I agreed with you, no use if just point to Ms Lee or Mr. Cheong, they cannot do anything leh…You need to point to Dato Hong by submit an official complaint letter on their design’s flaws to him while still not too late to do so now !

ya..useless to complaint to both of them, they just “makan gaji”, not the Tah Wah’s boss.

Useless pointed to the sales person, they just “makan gaji”, not the Tah Wah’s boss/directors.

CK Wong :

kpc :Just visited the showhouse again, TW had not changed the stair railing…the construction of the SD already reached the 3rd floor….From the looks of it, i don’t think the developer is planning to listen to a few buyer…I think complaining to MPSP regarding the dangerous rail design would be more effective…

it has been weeks since the official launching and no action taken to fix the staircase poor design and safety issue? i hope they will come out the action to prove to viewer that they are customer-oriented company. otherwise, they reputation of the company will be buried by their own. i will keep my finger cross till end of this month, if still no action, then i will look somewhere else… no point to step into the mud where you have known.

Fully agreed! We have to take it up to the local authorities to get it changed. There are more than a month but developer still didn’t act on it. They kept thinking that the complaints are only come from a few buyers so choose to ignore it!

I have bought a unit – type B Terrace and prepared to let go..those are interested, please leave your email here, then I would email you to let you know the price and details.

CK Wong :

kpc :Just visited the showhouse again, TW had not changed the stair railing…the construction of the SD already reached the 3rd floor….From the looks of it, i don’t think the developer is planning to listen to a few buyer…I think complaining to MPSP regarding the dangerous rail design would be more effective…

it has been weeks since the official launching and no action taken to fix the staircase poor design and safety issue? i hope they will come out the action to prove to viewer that they are customer-oriented company. otherwise, they reputation of the company will be buried by their own. i will keep my finger cross till end of this month, if still no action, then i will look somewhere else… no point to step into the mud where you have known.

Fully agreed! We have to take it up to the local authorities to get it changed. There are more than a month but developer still didn’t act on it. They kept thinking that the complaints are only come from a few buyers so choose to ignore it!

I have bought a unit – type B Terrace and prepared to let go..those are interested, please leave your email here, then I would email you to let you know the price and details.

Change the rail. Change the rail….support support support. We need to let the developer know the buyer voice. They have to be a responsible developer.

I do not think the developer will change anything, since you all are “the meat on the chopper board” already. Nowadays most of the developers are “cowboys-style developer”, irresponsible and just want to make money/profit. Who cares about buyers’ satisfaction. Pitiful, pitiful…..

Now, another fruit group coming. Not see much action except Hu Ha in this blog. Is there any coming purchaser club meeting ? I want to join.

Pls email you address to Orange Manic. The Purchacer Club is in the progress to write in for Tah Wah ….
Durian, are you real?

to all the other fruity members, this is my first comment eventho i’ve been following this forum for some time. i went to see the show house for myself and i have finally bought a unit. the saying ‘seeing is believing’ is true, if i were to believe what is written on this forum i would have missed a good opportunity.

went to the showhouse, see for myself and gathering the info from the sales person, i realised that a lot of good things is not complimented here. for the price of 578,800 with such a big built-up, g&g, complete with clubhouse, swimming pool and recreational facilities…..it’s really worth buying. i’ve done my survey before buying…..i’m not a rich man, so i have to be very careful when buying a house, this may be the house that i’ll be staying for a few decades. many other projects in bm are selling higher than orange villa and they are not g&g.

to the fruities who are complaining about the staircase handrail, i dont think it’s such a big issue, the house will only be ready by end of 2013, the developer said they will change it. i guess the reason why you guys are making a big huha out of it is because we hardly see a four storey house, usually only 2 storey with minimal handrail. infact this is my first visit to a 4 storey house. to me if the developer does not take their word to change the staircase handrail, they dont intend to become a developer anymore and that will be the end of Tah wah group.

i am now a member of orange villa and i look forward to it’s completion.

@pomelo
depends on how you see it…580k is still a terrace house although with additional storey you get bigger build up…if you really survey most of mainland, 580k can get you a semi d with better materials quality and workmanship….but still buying house first feel is very important..if you like it at first sight then everything is fine…one thing is that OV is using sand bricks and sound proofing might be weak…meaning you can easily hear sounds from downstairs especially you are talking about 3 or 3.5 storeys….prepare some money for renovation la…this
is confirmed case already…

@ jerry

i’m not rich, i wont do much reno but i like the g&g concept and lifestyle with swimming pool and gym and sauna. that’s why i think it’s worth buying and i also like the location. i’m from BM so i’ll choose BM, not penang. eventho at 580k to get a semi-d, i still prefer g&g as security is another reason why i chose orange villa. my house has been broke into before so now i still cant get over the phobia.

yup…GNG and guarded only there is difference…certainly GNG you need to pay higher maintainence fees…hope it is not a burden for you since you said you are not rich…able to buy approx 600k house considered not bad already lah….wont do much also need 100k easy easy…congrats found your dream house…

pomelo :
to all the other fruity members, this is my first comment eventho i’ve been following this forum for some time. i went to see the show house for myself and i have finally bought a unit. the saying ‘seeing is believing’ is true, if i were to believe what is written on this forum i would have missed a good opportunity.
went to the showhouse, see for myself and gathering the info from the sales person, i realised that a lot of good things is not complimented here. for the price of 578,800 with such a big built-up, g&g, complete with clubhouse, swimming pool and recreational facilities…..it’s really worth buying. i’ve done my survey before buying…..i’m not a rich man, so i have to be very careful when buying a house, this may be the house that i’ll be staying for a few decades. many other projects in bm are selling higher than orange villa and they are not g&g.
to the fruities who are complaining about the staircase handrail, i dont think it’s such a big issue, the house will only be ready by end of 2013, the developer said they will change it. i guess the reason why you guys are making a big huha out of it is because we hardly see a four storey house, usually only 2 storey with minimal handrail. infact this is my first visit to a 4 storey house. to me if the developer does not take their word to change the staircase handrail, they dont intend to become a developer anymore and that will be the end of Tah wah group.
i am now a member of orange villa and i look forward to it’s completion.

staircase handrail not a big issue??? don’t you know that this caused safety issue ?? try to lean on the handrail on 4th floor. if you feel ok, then congrat you.. you have the potential to be superman…

Pomelo .. we are buyer like u also …. we buy before the show house ready. We buy with a good hope. High end high end quality and finishing house. Could hope we could spend reasonable RM100-150K for reno in cash. Stair case railing quality have jeoperdize our budget. Easily we will spend RM30-40K only for the railing.
Altho developer say they will chg, why not doing it immediately as so many negative flying around? I person met then and feedback but i don’t have good feel that they take it seriously. Sad …. I heard that the Purchaser Club and will plan to submit a long list of feedback to developer before they start build the house. They will very soon arrange a meeting with developer boss discuss about the expectation.
Come joj the club.

@pomelo
I think you are very rich .. if you are not rich, you will never buy OV house that comes with low quality … You must have spare a few hundreds thousand to do the renovation … I also think something wrong with your eyes — your expectation of the quality is so low …. if all buyers like you, Tat Wah will think their quality is super …

pomelo,

who are you ? if you are buyer, please join the purchaser club and show your real identify..
i believe, the purchaser can’t wait to meet you the superman….

@CK Wong
yes ask Pamelo to lean on the handrail. if he dares, then spending RM570K is very very worth for him …

hahahaha CK kidding me …………. superman

Lost …… why u still here ……. you price RM518K is remain a joke of us in this forum …….
Call me if u still want to sell with RM518K, if deal, i will still give u a big ang pow as a gift to u ….
Joker ……… joker

Hey Purchasers…why are u arguing yourselves??? its all your fault..who ask u all to buy the property which does not even has a showhouse first of all??…then now complaining about the material..the Developer has eaten lots of your money and happy now..who is earning the benefits now??

Lost … pls dont come here fool around ….. altho Pomelo want to be superman, but i still trust him most then you …. a real sabotage in this forum.
I would say, i are not smart enough to fool people.
Joker … Joker …….
winnie, lately we have a lot super hero, may be after the movie of America super hero . Advenger movie. Pamelo may be demo for us and see.
How can he accept the railing? 2 level is still ok, now 4 level.
We will complain to MPSP or authority …. sure OC cannot get thru one if more then 10 persons write in ……… TahWah ….. u better chg it ASAP. Dont wait and cause more damage.

Lee BM :Hey Purchasers…why are u arguing yourselves??? its all your fault..who ask u all to buy the property which does not even has a showhouse first of all??…then now complaining about the material..the Developer has eaten lots of your money and happy now..who is earning the benefits now??

Work is in progress to get developer accountable. u will see!
We also need to chase away joker like ‘Lost’

Hey kenny, your intention is good, but we hope you don’t play it so big until jeopedize the whole progress of the project.

@Lee BM
they will become ‘enermy’ if continue argue among themselves, all the dissatisfy buyers should gather & then go to talk to developer (face to face will get the answer & solve the problem faster), why keep on talking the same issue in this forum???

@ CK Wong

please read my comment properly, i didnt say i am ok with the handrail, i just said the house will only be completed by end 2013 and the developer still have time to change. of course if they didnt change i will join you to lodge a complain at MPSP.

i’m no superman ok, just a new buyer.

@pomelo
i went to the site to have a look yesterday, what do you think about access road to OV? Do you think narrow? (between new taman betik indah & the BM Court)

i am yet to see the sample house, will do it this weekend & then decide.

@pomelo

i agree with ur comments lor….hehe… i’ll join u to lodge the complain to MPSP if developer not change that dangerious n lousy eh hand rail la..hehe… i hope developer can change the handrail n also the staircase to more quality eh materials la like using wood 1 lor…like given by DNP 1..aso not bad too…hehe…

if you complain too much to MPSP, it will affect the VP/OC process. You are paying interest, a 4 month delay will cost you maybe 7K in interest, might as well use that money to change to whatever handrail that is desired.

Cancer :if you complain too much to MPSP, it will affect the VP/OC process. You are paying interest, a 4 month delay will cost you maybe 7K in interest, might as well use that money to change to whatever handrail that is desired.

No, we will still complain. I will bring up this to Purchaser Club.
We cannot be scared. If want to go law sue, we will still go ahead.
If all Purchaser Club member join cost to hired a laywer, i think we can win and get back the money and stop the purchase.

Scare, what is scare ? We will not behave like ‘Biri-Biri’ in the chopping board, get slauther by developer.

lost is actually JTR ….. pls do not use multiple name to shoot people.
You have not explain the joke of selling Ovilla with RM518K ….. joker you are.

@Kenny
unless the developer stated the type of railing in S&P but does not deliver, you are figthing a losing battle.
I think the problem with OV is that is has 4 levels meaning that it must have 3 levels of staircase, compare with a double storey there is only 1 staircase, with 1 staircase a developer will likely give a better quality.

We will trade off the good name of the developer and Mr Hong, we knew how to do it within legal boundary. Avoid get sue by developer.
The legal also protact the weak parties.

Bty

Cancer :@Kenny unless the developer stated the type of railing in S&P but does not deliver, you are figthing a losing battle.I think the problem with OV is that is has 4 levels meaning that it must have 3 levels of staircase, compare with a double storey there is only 1 staircase, with 1 staircase a developer will likely give a better quality.

By the way, your name is already sound so bad, are u a cancer suffered? Better you stay home or provide better idea on how to push TahWah.
Join us bombad them, may help.

The message to all properties buyer …… pls do not because of scare and get slauther by bad developer. Team up and go press and authority.

We need to team up and establish out partner ship with developer to make the GnG Orange Villa a real role model to Bw/Bm …..

To report what the purchaser club has done so far, we have compiled 3 pages (A4) of cover letter, plus 21 pages (A4) of comment + suggestion lists, including photos and references.

If you are real purchaser, we urge you to send an email to jleong328@gmail.com state your name, unit no, email and phone contact no., so that you will be added to the purchaser club Facebook group, and you are able to see the details there.

Staircase issue is just one of the items in the list. One person’s eyes might not be able to see all the design defects or workmanship problems, but when we joined together to inspect the show house, combined our ideas, it become a different story. That was how we got the long list, with supporting evidences and facts.

Why we took so much hassle and hard work to pursue for this? It is all to the benefit of the buyers, we join force, and we ask for it. We have paid the price, we shall ask for the value we get.
At the end, we might not get 100% all we asked for, but we do believe that with that little effort, we shall be able to see some effect and result, to make OV a better value to buyers.

In the coming gathering, we will be going through item by item in the list, register for new member joining us, and sign the letter if you are agreeable and willing to support us. The more people we have, the more bargaining power we can get, as we will make appointment to talk to the developer about our constructive comments and suggestion very soon.

We will announce the date, time, and venue for the next gathering soon.

Orange Juice :To report what the purchaser club has done so far, we have compiled 3 pages (A4) of cover letter, plus 21 pages (A4) of comment + suggestion lists, including photos and references.
If you are real purchaser, we urge you to send an email to jleong328@gmail.com state your name, unit no, email and phone contact no., so that you will be added to the purchaser club Facebook group, and you are able to see the details there.
Staircase issue is just one of the items in the list. One person’s eyes might not be able to see all the design defects or workmanship problems, but when we joined together to inspect the show house, combined our ideas, it become a different story. That was how we got the long list, with supporting evidences and facts.
Why we took so much hassle and hard work to pursue for this? It is all to the benefit of the buyers, we join force, and we ask for it. We have paid the price, we shall ask for the value we get.At the end, we might not get 100% all we asked for, but we do believe that with that little effort, we shall be able to see some effect and result, to make OV a better value to buyers.
In the coming gathering, we will be going through item by item in the list, register for new member joining us, and sign the letter if you are agreeable and willing to support us. The more people we have, the more bargaining power we can get, as we will make appointment to talk to the developer about our constructive comments and suggestion very soon.
We will announce the date, time, and venue for the next gathering soon.

I will give 100% or may be 200% support to Orange Juice + Purchaser Club. I will get those i knew one to join he next Purchaser Club gathering.
I think the next cause of action from the club is very much depend on the attitude from the Developer and TahWah.
This is a very good partner ship, it could result in a very successful outcome and also very damaging outcome. And i could see those purchasers of TahWah have a very high level of comsumer right of knowledge, they really want to maximize the value from every single cent that they paid.
TahWah have to tune his radar to listen to Purchaser Club.
Mr Hong, Cheong, Kath, Lee all are playing important role in making the project a success.
Purchaser of this TahWah project are very IT interlactual, better dont take risk of ignore them/us.

@Orange Juice
i think you should also go for the major thing, confirm with the developer the swimming pool spec, size & depth, the materials surrounding the pool, the architect drawing, the landscaping spec, also can they possibly built the trapezium shaped clubhouse or they may change to a square shape later on.

@Kenny
the sales will not suffer even with bad reputation, look at CA Goh, Ideal group, very one knows not good quality but their products still sold out.

I am newly join here…. just grad bought this OV last year during soft launch time.
I am a bit scre that will not have extra money to reno. My budget of reno is only RM50K. Seem like i cannot have a nice renovated house to move it already.
I hope developer could provide me a better quality finishing to move it.
Developer cannot assume everyone have high budget to do RM100K to 300K of reno. I am one of them will expect developer to give me good finishing. Even a tiny crack of tile or even a hollow noise from the tile when knock on it.
What to do, i have no budget to reno and very much counting on developer quality and finishing.

Cancer :@Kenny the sales will not suffer even with bad reputation, look at CA Goh, Ideal group, very one knows not good quality but their products still sold out.

Then developer prepare a long lasting ‘war’ or conforntation with purchaser clubs.
We have a lot of people like cutie kelly above, very much counting on the original finishing.

Beginner player like TahWah, if want to gain bad name like Idxxl or CA Goh, it is his choise. But bear in mind, today is IT era …. if developer want to earn the bad name and confrontation with purchaser, then go ahead.

Orange Juice :To report what the purchaser club has done so far, we have compiled 3 pages (A4) of cover letter, plus 21 pages (A4) of comment + suggestion lists, including photos and references.
If you are real purchaser, we urge you to send an email to jleong328@gmail.com state your name, unit no, email and phone contact no., so that you will be added to the purchaser club Facebook group, and you are able to see the details there.
Staircase issue is just one of the items in the list. One person’s eyes might not be able to see all the design defects or workmanship problems, but when we joined together to inspect the show house, combined our ideas, it become a different story. That was how we got the long list, with supporting evidences and facts.
Why we took so much hassle and hard work to pursue for this? It is all to the benefit of the buyers, we join force, and we ask for it. We have paid the price, we shall ask for the value we get.At the end, we might not get 100% all we asked for, but we do believe that with that little effort, we shall be able to see some effect and result, to make OV a better value to buyers.
In the coming gathering, we will be going through item by item in the list, register for new member joining us, and sign the letter if you are agreeable and willing to support us. The more people we have, the more bargaining power we can get, as we will make appointment to talk to the developer about our constructive comments and suggestion very soon.
We will announce the date, time, and venue for the next gathering soon.

Orange Juice,
Pls call the final meeting as i think developer tot that the PA is not real. We need to act fast to meet TahWah and Hong.
I think a lot of the joker in this forum are actual from developer.
We really want to see the real ‘Attitude’ of TahWah in handling us.

Besides to all Buyer,
You all may see we are very demanding, actually we have to ensure we gain the value and quality for every penny that we all pay.
Pls join the Purchaser Club asap.

We may be creating a first precedent in Penang Properties talk to use it a the channel to apply pressure developer to provide good delivery and quallity.
The benefit will all go back to buyer them self.

Thx Admin Ken, by removing those people who provide irrelevant talk in this forum.
Thx.

How to join the purchaser club? I am a bit nervous to join in.

Pls email you email address to jleong328@gmail.com, the PIC will try to contact you.

AhTu…… there are many complain ask developer to change this & that…. lor…Is it possible that the developer can change this & that…..meh
now very worry , don’t know whether the developer can complete OV in time or not…?

Mr Hong is so famous person in BM, i think he should be able to commit to make this project well. Since developer mentioned ready to hear from Purchaser, Purchaser club need to act fast to submit the feedback letter to them.
I will join you all next PA mtg and sign on the letter, if you all need me to bring journelist, i can request my fren to join the talk when you all meet Mr. Hong. But need to pre-arrange to avoid last minute.

V@gmal.my :AhTu…… there are many complain ask developer to change this & that…. lor…Is it possible that the developer can change this & that…..mehnow very worry , don’t know whether the developer can complete OV in time or not…?

AhTu quiet d … better refer to PA …. have you join?
So far have have not show his stand in dealing with developer. Say good thing more, but when ask to show out in PA mth, and other said he refuse …. how we relise on him, a person that we never meet before.

Unless he really show out in coming PA mtg.

Goodday, anyone know how is the sale for Orange Villa now after receive so many bad/poor commend in this forum? If developer still behave stubborn, the club should use more hush way to beat on the developer.
How can developer still now inform listof item to chg and improve?
May be developer is waiting for the official list. Should submit fast!

@V@gmal.my
not sure will impact the orange vila eh progress bo lor…hehe…but it is ok la if to highlight concerns n suggestions n views to developer lor….hope developer will listen to orange juice eh suggestions lor…i think some of the comments given by orange juice good oso la…hehe…..i dun know wat the latest suggestions that inside their petiton letter la as i been removed from the club liao due to i dun wan to reveal my real identitiy there ma.hehe….but is ok la…hehe…i think wat the buyer club plan to do will good for buyer too la…hehe…..but they just talk talk here…hope they can submit their suggestions n concerns letter to developer faster a bit la..hehe..developer developed the orange vila faster like rocket now…hope buyer club eh actions can catch up the developer eh development eh speed lor..haha…

@LimPek

if i not mistaken la, the sales not bad, just left 10-20 unit now lor..hehe..

Obviously AhTu is Developer rep here ….. totally do not see his worry and urgency in this forum. May be his have budget RM200-300K for reno. Then it is ok for him.

Pityful for those freshie like CuteKelly, less budget to do reno. Have to stay in a house the bad finishing.
AhTu, dont you feel you should help her and other less budget people?

Of cos laa. Ahtu is buying semi-d.
His situation may not like us.
Of cos he will benefit from the result that we fight for.
All,
Change of staircase rail also the pressure from purchaser, or else, do u think developer will chg. But till now is just verbal say, show house not chg yet.
Kind of supprise, AhTu, u still can bear with slow response from developer.

I have read all above.
Ah Tu have the least value is his comment.
Chicken out from the FB forum.
Chicken out from show out.
We need to talk with action, not empty talk.

Orange Juice :To report what the purchaser club has done so far, we have compiled 3 pages (A4) of cover letter, plus 21 pages (A4) of comment + suggestion lists, including photos and references.
If you are real purchaser, we urge you to send an email to jleong328@gmail.com state your name, unit no, email and phone contact no., so that you will be added to the purchaser club Facebook group, and you are able to see the details there.
Staircase issue is just one of the items in the list. One person’s eyes might not be able to see all the design defects or workmanship problems, but when we joined together to inspect the show house, combined our ideas, it become a different story. That was how we got the long list, with supporting evidences and facts.
Why we took so much hassle and hard work to pursue for this? It is all to the benefit of the buyers, we join force, and we ask for it. We have paid the price, we shall ask for the value we get.At the end, we might not get 100% all we asked for, but we do believe that with that little effort, we shall be able to see some effect and result, to make OV a better value to buyers.
In the coming gathering, we will be going through item by item in the list, register for new member joining us, and sign the letter if you are agreeable and willing to support us. The more people we have, the more bargaining power we can get, as we will make appointment to talk to the developer about our constructive comments and suggestion very soon.
We will announce the date, time, and venue for the next gathering soon.

All buyer, pls email your contact to above email address to Orange Juice, this is the Purchaser Club who want to up hold your right ! Pls dont not miss out.

i recall la..i mentioned few times liao on i went to c almost 99.975% of the housing projects in mainland areas liao…hehe….i can said this developer is not bad liao if compare to others housing project..hehe..at least they r open minded on certain issues that i brought up to them previously la….hehe..of course la..this developer still cannot fight with others big branded developers such as setia, airmas, dnp, ijm land la..cause tah wah still fresh lagi in property market ma.. those big branded developers are old birds in this sector liao ma n they hv banyek $$$$$$ too lor to support their marketing plan, materials given, packages n so on la……hehe

anyway u all hv freedom to give ur ‘speech” here la..hehe…may b u all use the fresh nicknames to hoo hoo ha ha here oso boleh la..nobody will know ur real identity ma………hehe…but if use too many nicknames n writing eh formats not change eh, ppl will know u liao la..n ppl will feel veli sian oso la when read ur comment lors when u used other nicknames la…..my advice oni la…hehe…but anyhow la…remember to act fast lor..hehe… if not, wat u all did in the purchaser club will become “sky juice” n just flow away like that later on la…if u all still slow slow submit the letter to developer la..hehe…

BuyerPoolView :I have read all above.Ah Tu have the least value is his comment.Chicken out from the FB forum.Chicken out from show out.We need to talk with action, not empty talk.

i agree with ur comments lor..pls just ignore my comment lor if u think wat i said is not got points la…is ok 1 la..haha.. u c ..i re-quote ur comment here again la….hehe..

Ahtu. if you just talk and not show up, juts silent support the team. you are actually benefit from the chg of the stair railing after so many purchaser complain and pressure? You have actually save RM30-40K, u know. pls join force to push for improvement. and not asking other purchaser to accept such problem finishing and design.
you stand is not firm and pls join the club.

@Kenny

i think i m not asking other purchaser to accept the finishing or design lor….hehe..u may missed reading my comment liao lor la..hehe… wat i said is that it will depend on buyer decision to join or dun want to join the buyer clubs la …especially for those buyers that really dun like to reveal their real identity in FB lor..like me lor…hehe…this is democracy world ma..bo pien lor…i will still raise my concerns to them thru phone call lor…hehe…hope to help u all a bit here by using phone call method la…although some of u may feel bei kia eh using phone calls…but this is my ways la…hehe…

but if buyer think ok la if reveal identity in buyer club in FB there….then pls join buyer club lor…ok too la..hehe..

Seems like if you buy Orange Villa, you must not tolerate the show unit. If you say that you can accept or you are ok with it or with the developer, then surely someone will prop out and shoot u. This is the type of democracy shown by these people. They think that if they 100% cannot accept the situation, then other people must be 100% cannot accept, cannot be 70% or 50% cannot accept.

Some more what’s wrong if someone does not wish to show their real identity? They must have their own special reason.

@BD

i agree with u lor….ur comment sounds make sense la…! hehe…we nid to be in rational thinking n shows democracy when we actions, speaks or writes for certain things lor..hehe..good 1 la..

For sure, you word is light and your stand have go against the purchaser club interest. You are actually write for developer to read and developer will say loud loud, my house and finishing is OK. But tell you self, are you really like the finishing?
Both of you have benefit, you know not? the stair case railing.

Hi all other Purchaser Club member, pls commenton Ah Tu and BD, we would like to hear from you.

Obviously, he is developer rep >>> not purchaser >>>>>> a phantom blogger. Early still go people ask him to be chairman>luckily time have prove it.

Kenny :For sure, you word is light and your stand have go against the purchaser club interest. You are actually write for developer to read and developer will say loud loud, my house and finishing is OK. But tell you self, are you really like the finishing?Both of you have benefit, you know not? the stair case railing.
Hi all other Purchaser Club member, pls commenton Ah Tu and BD, we would like to hear from you.

You acted like a dictator king here ! BD and Ahtu are just giving their fair views only at here!

If ppl agree with what you said then you’ll praise those ppl, when ppl not agree with you, then you said those ppl againt you/purchaser club and you ask purchaser club’s member to shoot them. Really behave like a dictator . As an OV’s buyer, i hope my unit not just next to your unit ! i don’t want a dictator neighbour ! If you’re real buyer of OV, please don’t join JMC too as we don’t want our future JMC member acting like a dictator when serving the community !

Kenny think he is the king of the purchaser club ! . I not like a person acting as a dictator too. Hope my unit not next to his unit too. it is hard to communicate and stay peacefully with neighbour who thought he is a king and Orange Villa is his kingdom.

Pity ahtu and BD who loves democratic system getting shoot here !

kgb :Kenny think he is the king of the purchaser club ! . I not like a person acting as a dictator too. Hope my unit not next to his unit too. it is hard to communicate and stay peacefully with neighbour who thought he is a king and Orange Villa is his kingdom.
Pity ahtu and BD who loves democratic system getting shoot here !

SBee and kgb, i agreed Kenny as we all purchaser club member actually have show out for 3 mtg already and we dare to bear responsibility on what we said. You all never mention what purchaser have push for the staircase rail chg but pin point on people. Pls come and join the club and people will believe u.
You also never mention that you all have benefit from the purchaser pressure to chg the railling. Shame shame shame and still want to talk democratic.

Hi all, i am not a buyer but looking at good bargain if any one want to dispose OV with RM30K loss. Pls give me your email address.
Altho i am not a buyer, but i believe all the tuntutan to developer are actually good for all buyer, no matter u are happy now or not happy now with the developer finishing quality. We should let the purchaser club to do their job.
The rest, KGB & SBee or BD, just sit back and benefit from the effort.
Bottomline, we want to see result ………………… you have got a better quality rail (developer just verbal said) ……………… not good to be a destroyer to the club, be supportive.

PenangHonda :Hi all, i am not a buyer but looking at good bargain if any one want to dispose OV with RM30K loss. Pls give me your email address.Altho i am not a buyer, but i believe all the tuntutan to developer are actually good for all buyer, no matter u are happy now or not happy now with the developer finishing quality. We should let the purchaser club to do their job.The rest, KGB & SBee or BD, just sit back and benefit from the effort.Bottomline, we want to see result ………………… you have got a better quality rail (developer just verbal said) ……………… not good to be a destroyer to the club, be supportive.

No laaa, this AhTu, kgb, SBee & BD, are actually nick name from a same person, name AhTu, Whoever want to be hero, show out at PA meeting. Pls dont simply shoot Kenny, he have show his integrity of promise to show out in PA mtg.

I dare u show out, AhTu, BD, kgb, BD. Let at least 30 real purchaser face u, if u dont believe them

Hi Angrybird2 , i know who u are. Like ur comment and i use Angrybird3. Really angry with this AhTu gang of benefit from our pressure but yet did not appreciate PA effort (as kenny said). Let them said la, i think all reader of this forum will not trust these phantom blogger, no courage to show out and hide behind the LCD screen.
No one will trust them. I think very soon Oranger will anouse the next PA mtg, then we match ramai ramai to TahWah office, face Mr Hong and Cheong and see what will be their response. AhTu and gang, can see how we do thing.
May be they are actually work inside the office and shake like a sheep.

Developer agree to change the staircase railing not because of hard push just by you all. In facts, most of the buyers of orange villa have same feelings on those unsafety railing and raised to developer when visiting the show house. Developer agreed to change because of that reason! I know you all are working hard and plan to deal with developer on other defects, yours intention is good but please don’t acting like a dictator here !

Hi Ov team A and team B, when meet, pls dont fight huh. pls settle in peace ok? So far we could see Purchaser Club strength is not a joke. Better dont play with them.

SBee, we do not need to talk to you any more as u have failed to proven you are real buyer. I will attn the coming PA Mtg. Some like dictator is ur personal view or feel. Pls open your door to accept the fact of purchaser are pushing hard to save ur reno cost.
Not all people have high budget like u. Pls join us to gain or max the value that u have paid. or going to paid. If you are real, this is 100% correct, no reason for you to waste your time and effort to damage me or PA.
kgb and ahtu, same to u.

The more you comment, the most people see u are developer rep here.

@AhTu
not a buyer doesnt mean i cannot say sometihng here..anyway ah tu, i cannot agree with your comments la…although when you type sounds like you use broken english and when use other nicknames your english becomes suddenly so good…other developers are old birds and branded and they have more money to materials provided? is that means new developer does not have the responsiblity to provide good materials with such selling prices and promises? fresh in property doesnt mean you can do whatever you want and expect people to accept it…i feel very sad when see this forum especially OV buyers that work so hard to convince developers for improvement and i guess it will never end so soon…all your sayings left or right, up or down also when all of us think of it…always trying to cover up for developers….buyers are buying things and they are not doing charity…your statements really pointing people to the way that ok lar nevermind la very fresh like durian just dropped from tree…if you are really from developer also i can understand your position just that next time please use better reasons to support your stand….else people see already also feel sian liao….ask people send letter one is not only you ah tu if i remember there is one ‘sis’ (nickname) also ask people send letter….hope it is not you la…else you will become a laughing stock lorrr…

this OV blog starting become rojak now….have real buyer, sabotager, competitor, phamtom blogger and now suddenly turn out the “Dictator” who asking buyers to listen to him….don’t know who this dictator are.. just a nickname “Kenny” and startin give instructions like Hitler …haha..hehe..haha..

After read above …………. hai !!! ……………………….. AhTu, i was with you previously but now seem like the table has turn, i dont know what to say now. I am on PA side and will support what PA plan to do.
In fact, i do not have much budget for big reno also, very much counting of developer finishing. For sure my house will have a long list of defect list (if any), and fully bind the developer to rectify all defect or workman ship.

luckily not buy this property ! foresee future JMC will full by members with dictator mindset. Buy Central Way better! cheaper price and no dictator neighbours in there..

I think there is no right or wrong on everyone’s comments as all of us have right to do things we want! Respect given to those buyers who are fighting hardly to get things improved!

@Ccab
like your comment….relax and be happy people…

greeting u Ccab & jerry, thx for understanding. But this type of people later will say, ccab=jerry=kenny, already ….. no gas to argue with him already, as long as they not show out, people will still believe me and the PA club.

i have long stop argue already, as earlier i also like AhTu refuse to show out but due to need to proven my self real, i decided to show out and now people know and trust me. I was with AhTu but till now he still refuse to prove him self, i respect his choice and not to push him anymore.
Jerry, AhTu actually can type good english just he did broken english in purpose, may be for joke only.

@kenny
i think the admin of this blog should know who is who lar…but whether ah tu is from developer or not not important…as long as buy house happily la…be moderate and tolerate is the best…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKfC77XAp8 – visit this link la..dont worry this is not a property video viewing and i am not property agent…this is a funny movie trailer…

@jerry
chill la everyone…trust me this movie not bad..i check gurney gsc, it will come to malaysia on september…very nice k..

winiwwowo. r u PA member? when is the next meeting, do include me. hope to see u.

all buyers, lets forget about Ah Tu and the rest and focus back to the quality issue of the OV. We respect them not to reveal the identity but hope they also respect members of Purchaser Club to take intiative to make things work, at the end, u all also benefit if u r real buyers. so please give support!

@WinnieWowWow

is ok 1 lor….we just know each other by nicknames in here ma…someone here said i m kgb, BD or SBee or …..veli funny lor when i saw that comments..hehe….i oso dun know who n who saying that liao la when i saw lot of nicknames suddenly flying in this blog..hehe..if like that, i can say WinnieWowWow oso use multiples nickname here too lor..hehe…rite? cause lot of nicknames suddenly appreared here now ma…hehe..

i agree with koko’s comment on this site bcome rojak liao …hehe..but bcome rojak good too la if u think positive ways la…looks more interesting now ma when the site bcome rojak……hehe…i’m hapy la if u guys can convince buyer to join the club in this blog…as i always mentioned ma, good to hv that buyer club to raise concerns n suggestions n views to developer lor..but no wrong or right when ppl dun wan to follow ur move ma..it is ppl or buyers eh right to choose join or not join ma….hehe..

my views is veli clear when talk on this club la- this club is good la, if u want to join the club, then no harm to join lor..if dun want to join the club cause of dun want to reveal your identity, then ok too la…..fair enough ma…hmms….i oso dun like dictator styles lor….hehe…i may b kena tembak again by dictator blogger later on lor..but never mind la…always think positive good to our health ma…..n good oso if can kena tembak here by the people that we dunno but only know the nicknames nia lor….later we will forgot that nicknames oso liao la…rite? haha…

@jerry …u r right ! we nid to be always in hapy states when buy a house for own stay ma….moderate n tolerate with our future neighbour is most important points here la….who n who in this blog is not important lor..hehe…i agree with lu la….i m always in hapy states ma..hehe..

I think everyone is having the same end goal here, who hope to have a nice, safe, and happy family at OV! Probably the way of heading it is different. Let’s hope all of our dreams come true!

Mr. upsad :all buyers, lets forget about Ah Tu and the rest and focus back to the quality issue of the OV. We respect them not to reveal the identity but hope they also respect members of Purchaser Club to take intiative to make things work, at the end, u all also benefit if u r real buyers. so please give support!

u r right lor..i agree with ur comment lor…hehe.. ppl eh right ma !! hehe

@Ccab

ya..u r right n u know my styles too..hehe..tulan lai tulan ki at here not worth n sounds not pro too la…haha….my styles is if u r talking mature to me, i will talk mature to u too..if u talk kotor to me..then i will talk kotor to u too…and i always hapy 1..haha…ya.. we nid to be pro n always in hapy states ma ..hehe… btw, i believe admin Ken will remove this tulan wording eh comment afterwards lor..haha…

@AdminKen,
Please delete this unprofessional eh comments lor by me mr Tulan n oso Ccab lor…hehe…kam xia kam xia lor..

looks like AdminKen just delete Mr Tulan eh comments regarding his Tulan…

halo AdminKen, pls delete my comments that having wording tulan back too mr tulan lor…fair enough ma..hehe

ahtu, you get shoot here with foul wording kah? told you..useless to talk to no professional people at this blog !! somemore you fight with dictator blogger who claimed he is real buyer. hahahahaha….

@sis

halo sis, looks like u r in hapy states more than me….saw u got lot of smiley faces icon there n oso the hahahahaha eh wording …hehe…

bo huat lor ..some ppl not like democracy world ma…bo pien eh…hehe….i just stand my points with democratic wording then kena tembak lao lor..but ok 1 la..hehe…democracy world is we can freely give our “speech” here ma but with the rules that we r not throw any foul wordings to the ppl that againts our views la….hehe…but if ppl throw bad wording to us, then we should fight back lor…tis is my stand la….fair enough ma..this is called win-win situation ma…u win ..i oso win ma…u lost i oso lost…haha…

sis … u enter war …………. hahaha better dont …………..hahaha
AhTu is target now. I am buyer too. This AhTu have loss trust from all reader and still very happy, really not make sense and meaning less to talk with him d.

sis … well come back, not should be AhTu bin Sis. …… same person.
Here come AngryBird4, purchacer club member #4

i think most buyer in the Purchaser Club now very pees off with AhTu as everyone have seen his real face. Actually we purposely corner him and see how smart or how far he still can pretend. Now finally real face have shown ans some more got a lot of mini-AhTu appear ……… sis, kgb, SBee ………….. actually he is not real

Ahtu actually was kick out from FB in purchaser club. Started with people trust him, but later getting not right about him. Provide email and join the FB but refuse to expose. Finally got kick out by the club. My self and Angrybird2,3,4 now altually have been observed him quiet long. Finally we concluded him as developer spy. Just ignore him.
Actually we have more member not trust him, not to mention here. If you want to know more, just read last two page.

@Simonboy

hehe..i m not asking ppl to trust me lor..hehe…just gave my views at here nia lor..hehe..as i always said la, u can just ignore my comments la if u not believe on wat i m saying la…haha..is ok 1 la….if u dun like my comments, just ignore lor….hehe…make it simple ma…hehe…anyway i saw lot of blogger get shoot too here, not only me la..i mean when their views againt the PA eh club members eh views la…i think this is not a good sign lor…we should accept free views from ppl la..no matter bad or good views la but should b came with facts when throw the views la….hehe… if ppl not agree with our views, ok too la as we nid to respect their rights too ma….hehe…showing dictator styles at here sure will make ppl bei song n might scare other buyers too lor..hehe…

I have limited budget too, i will support the Purchaser Club to fight for the quality and finishing. I am depend on the original staircase, ceiling and tile, not mush money to do major thing. What i can do i to submit defect list to ensure developer did very good touch up for me. Worse case, we use lawyer or architect to on-hold their final 5% bank payment to developer. Hope we can submit the letter fast, i will follow the team.

Ah tu, most people turn up at the club are talk fact, only u talk but not turn up. people not trust u. i dont trust u. any you comment here is just wasting people time to read and deviate attention. since we knew u are staying in semi-d, not difficult to check who actually u are, and you fellow jiran will come to say hello to u, our future ‘chairman’

funny la….hehe..they said i m developer spy pula when i not with them..hehe..funny but interesting accused lor..hehe….i like it…hehe…i oso can’t think y i nid to become a developer spy lor? hehe…luckily i m out from PA club and not reveal my identity there lor..if not, my eyes will become cher mea lor hit by them later on ma when i hv different eh views with them si lor..just joking la..pls dun take it seriously on my joke on cher mea eh eyes lor….haha….anyway u guys go ahead with ur plan to meet developer lor….as i said, i support wat u guys did lor even u guys shoot me or accused me as a developer spy lor..hehe….but i not agree with wat u guys eh actions when ppl not hv same views with u guys la….i mean shooting ppl eh action lor…..hehe…

@Simonboy
i will say halo to my neighbour too..dun woli….hehe

@GraceII

i understand ur concerns la…u hv right to do wat u plan to do la…hehe..

@lost

Lost, we re not stupid… Time will prove it…

Lost . ‘good’ in release his/her anger in scolding kenny, but his/her joke of selling RM518K for his/her OVilla house still a joker for us to laught for may month, until Lost totally dissapear from this blog.
So obviouse he/she is fooling around.
If you dont sell keny, then sell me laa .. i pay you RM518K + angpow with $500 la …………..ahahahah, again a joker a joker, i.e. Lost

CCab, i am lost count d actually i this site got how many real purchaser. I fell that we many laaa ….. got 30 not?
This Lost i dont this is real buyer. He/she not even how much he bought Ovilla and want to let go with RM518K, many want to buy from him/her but chicken out d.
Wrong fact and lost EQ, ‘Lost’ is totally fake and a joker in this forum.

Generally, 3 types of buyers here:

Type A: those who feel very unhappy with the quality of show house and think that they deserve more. They are very disappointed, angry and want to fight for their “rights”, even if need to go against the developer. Some of them act sensibly & “professionally”, but some of them are too aggressive and way too demanding. These people are surely in the purchaser club.

Type B: those who feel not very happy with the show house but still can accept it generally. They have other priorities other than the handrail thing. They may be not so demanding and are more easy-going people. They say they are ok with it, but if developer can improve it then it’s a bonus and they will feel happy. So they will support or join the purchaser club, but may not contribute much.

Type C: those who don’t like to see other buyer act like “dictator”. They are generally ok with the show house like type B buyers. They may think that a good relationship with developer is essential but some other buyers here are trying to kacau or threaten the developer. They have faith in the developer more. They may be worry that the progress of OV will be delayed because of too many complaints. They cannot tahan those buyers who have ridiculous demands.

Type A cannot get along well with type B/C as when type B/C say that they are ok (not showing any urgency to complain) with the show house, developer may think that not everyone is unhappy and this may jeopardize purchaser club’s effort. Type C cannot mix well with type A because type A spoil their good and peaceful feeling of owning a OV house.

No one is right or wrong here. We are just different people with different personality. Purchaser club should function as usual, but not forcing people to join or tembak people if not happy. Don’t ever think that you have done the hardwork and others who do not contribute can reap the benefit. This is the real life. Please be more humble, open-minded and realistic. Any disagreement between buyers type A/B/C, just solve it in a professional manner.

This blog is being mis-used for personal attack n now seems to be used to attack the OV club. Let me stress again here, the OV Club is form with the objective of compiling a list of comments from a group of genuine buyers whom have the quality concerns about OV upon visited the showhouse. The club efforts is aimed for providing feedback to developer officially so as to seek improved quality house. Througout the few meetings, all members are very focus in compiling the feedback listing with much studies n facts are being done. We also understand that everybody expectation are vary. If somebody is happy with the quality n feels that it is justifiable for more than half a miliion investment, then u do not need to join the club to voice your concerns. Likewise, if u r unhappy about the quality n wanted to bring this to developer, then OV club is the way to go. We do not force anyone to join us nor forcing buyers to agree with us. Therefore, Whether AhTu to join the club or not is entirely his freedom. We have more than 30 buyers who have registered in the club n all of us share the same view points. Our ultimate goal is really works twd a better qualty home. That is it!

So, pls do not associate the club with non sensible comments such as democracy issue. Every members in the club are working things out with good intention.

BD :
Generally, 3 types of buyers here:
Type A: those who feel very unhappy with the quality of show house and think that they deserve more. They are very disappointed, angry and want to fight for their “rights”, even if need to go against the developer. Some of them act sensibly & “professionally”, but some of them are too aggressive and way too demanding. These people are surely in the purchaser club.
Type B: those who feel not very happy with the show house but still can accept it generally. They have other priorities other than the handrail thing. They may be not so demanding and are more easy-going people. They say they are ok with it, but if developer can improve it then it’s a bonus and they will feel happy. So they will support or join the purchaser club, but may not contribute much.
Type C: those who don’t like to see other buyer act like “dictator”. They are generally ok with the show house like type B buyers. They may think that a good relationship with developer is essential but some other buyers here are trying to kacau or threaten the developer. They have faith in the developer more. They may be worry that the progress of OV will be delayed because of too many complaints. They cannot tahan those buyers who have ridiculous demands.
Type A cannot get along well with type B/C as when type B/C say that they are ok (not showing any urgency to complain) with the show house, developer may think that not everyone is unhappy and this may jeopardize purchaser club’s effort. Type C cannot mix well with type A because type A spoil their good and peaceful feeling of owning a OV house.
No one is right or wrong here. We are just different people with different personality. Purchaser club should function as usual, but not forcing people to join or tembak people if not happy. Don’t ever think that you have done the hardwork and others who do not contribute can reap the benefit. This is the real life. Please be more humble, openminded and realistic. Any disagreement between buyers type A/B/C, just solve it in a professional manner.

To be fair to the club, your comments about the club (OV club buyers are demanding) is only valid when u have reviewed the feedback listing. Otherwise, please dont mislead the real buyers! Thank you.

A developer will never be able to please everyone. This is a fact. Everyone has different taste and different acceptance criteria in terms of quality. Once you paid the house deposit, you need to confront Tah Wah more professionally. Do you think approaching them through mafia style will gain you anything? I suggest OV buyers talk get a sensible person maybe your ADUN to voice the things you want to Tah Wah but make it reasonable request. Based on your list of demands, you might need to prioritize the top 3 which concerns safety like the handrail for example.

Should not shoot Kenny or Winie as this people are really ready to expose and attn the Purchaser Club coming meeting. i am too tight up to join the club as i have to counting of them to improve the finishing. let see how far the club could do. we need to suppor them.

@orange manic

More than 30 buyers joined the club? figure correct bo? with that huge amount of club members, why OV buyer club’s members still look so not confident eh, starting attacking peoples comments which have different opinions with them ? I’m buyer too, scary to see my future neigbours behave like an unmorality persons.

For people like me have low budget for reno, i depend on the club.
For people rich, if you already feel ok with the house, just let the club do the job, your comment in this forum will be taken by developer to refuse for improvement. Pls

Pls email your email address to the club, and attn our meeting. you will really make fren with all real buyer. all are very frenly people and not as what you think off.

This the game number. How many of the buyer read this blog? No all, we knew. Conservertively let say only 20% of the total buyer read this blog = 30% x 150 = 45 buyers.
Now the club have 30 members, which actually mean 30/45 x 100 = 67% of the reader are supporting the club. This is only assuming 30% read this blog. If only 20% read this blog, mean 100% of the reader are supporting the club. This number is telling developer that majority of thier buyer are very un-happy. Need to do something immediately.

Mandarin Q house does not look nice laaa …. very lau beh look.
See also tak lalu liao.

yes, i am one of the 30 club members. I find the Purchaser Club of Orange Villa is carrying out a very good initiative. Form the club during this earlier stage and make develiper chg the staircase railing. I would urge all other purchaser to join in, but at least give your name as silent supporter to the club.
People like kenny,manic,mr-upsad,angrybird,winieww all are giving their time to do thing for us. Without them, nothing will move.

LimPek :
Mandarin Q house does not look nice laaa …. very lau beh look.
See also tak lalu liao.

not lau peh la… boleh tahan… just that the space on the ground floor is too small …i viewed any corner unit last year , the build up is 22x 41 ( exclude car porch ) and land size is 28 x 47 Price: RM 462K facing south maintenance fees Rm 150 p/m….

Permatang santuary by IJM better than Orange Villa, at least no eyesore dictator neighbours, no need to pay maintenance fees, no need to see/listen to the dictator neighbours who might become the future management comittees. Scary when heard future comittees will be lead by a group of Dictators in this talk ! If comittee is leading by a groups of Directors, then only can consider good buy !

Ahtu, i bought semi-d too. Ms lee said the specs for semi-d will be different with terrace types.

permatang sanctuary is different class, you can’t compare with OV.
the location and concept is not the same, how can you compare apple to apple?
Permatang tinggi location is 2nd to OV’s location. there is not comparable.
if you compare by developer, then !JM of cause is more glamour than TW laa….
however, !JM used to be a small developer like TW. time and opportunity need to be given so they can show the result…. don’t give death sentence to TW until you see the major improvement come to plant… one thing is TW need to boost up the speed to re-design the handrail.

@AliceIce
For those who are overall satisfied with his purchase, then he will talk good about the developer. There’s nothing wrong, though I think Ah Tu talk bad more than good on the developer. One may not be satisfied with the show house, but in general he can be satisfied with the location, purchase price, house concept etc.

Just my personal comment here, I think the list is too long and we know the developer is not possible to do all, for e.g. External design color. I would think the develope is not gonna to change it as the color must be matching the one printed in their sales brochure. It will be a great shock to other buyers who re not here when seeing their house completed with diff color. It is better if you can remove some non-making-sense/not possibe items and emphasize on few must-change items,for e.g. The staircase handrail, and send it to developer,this may sound more effective…just my two cents here…

@Ccab

Pls join OV club if you haven’t join.

@BD

ya lor..funny but interesting anyway lor..!..hehehe…

yes pls join OV club so that your voices can be heard. we must give support to winniewowwow and kenny who is vocal and dare to voice out their dissatisfaction. dont forget that he has experience in JMC. why do you think he’s wasting his time to pressure the developer, it’s for the buyers’ benefit.

Dear all buyers,

We will be having a OV Purchaser Club Gathering on this coming Saturday 12/5/2012 @ 3pm @ KFC, AutoCity.

All real buyers are welcome to join us. For those who are already the members but haven’t signed on the petition letter, please come to sign the letter once you have sighted and agreed with the content. The letter will then be forwarded to the developer very soon!

For those of you who like to express your concerns but yet to be the member, just drop by to join us. If u r agreeable with the compiled list of comments, you can put your signature too. We all have to make a concerted efforts to get things moving forward. No points expressing your comments here with on action.! This is for the benefit of the buyers.

AngryBirds2 :@Ccab
Pls join OV club if you haven’t join.

Purchaser club is asking those AhTu, BD, SBee, Lost to come on Sat. Strengtern the club.
This is my number:
Total OV unit are 150
Total sold are 120 (we are safe actually)
Total buyer who read penang Blog are 40 (assumption only) could be less at 30
Total angry buyer who have job the club are 30
% of angry buyer = 30/40 x 100 = 75%

Look like very high % of the buyer is not happy.

bird bird :yes pls join OV club so that your voices can be heard. we must give support to winniewowwow and kenny who is vocal and dare to voice out their dissatisfaction. dont forget that he has experience in JMC. why do you think he’s wasting his time to pressure the developer, it’s for the buyers’ benefit.

bird bird, i like ur name.
actually i am not pressuring developer, i still have good relation to developer staff. just i am supporting the Purchaser Club to get Orange Villa a best GnG in BM. Of cause to achieve this, both purchaser and developer have to work together. Unless developer do not intent to. if so many purchaser volunteer to contribute energy and time to whole purchaser, then i should be part of it, although i am still kind of busy going to run an AGM in my condo with multiple hundred of parcel owner. COB or MPPP will coming and we are getting Lawyer/Accountant/Rela Team/Detective-CID/Journalist …… hope that nobody dare to throw the chair or shouting in the AGM …….
With my limited knowledge, may give future JMC or current Purchaser Club a bit of 2 cents input.

LimPek, you estimation of the angry purchaser sound logic. Which mean we have many dis-satisfaction buyer of this project. Hope developer can hear from us.

justice :
@orange manic
More than 30 buyers joined the club? figure correct bo? with that huge amount of club members, why OV buyer club’s members still look so not confident eh, starting attacking peoples comments which have different opinions with them ? I’m buyer too, scary to see my future neigbours behave like an unmorality persons.

Do not question, the best is to see it yourself if u r a real buyers by joining us. But if u r happy with the quality n feel that more than half a million investment can be justified with what is provided, then i m happy for u too. OV club is just a platform or avenue provided to disappointed buyers who pull conserted efforts together to get improved quality house. All members r not interested in the attacking game! V respect u as a happy buyer if u r real, but pls also respect those upsad buyers n leave us alone to do what need to be done coz it will benefit to all buyers eventually.
Please dont simply give non-sensible comments about the OV club to mislead buyers. If u r happy with the quality, that is ok. If u r not happy, join us n put the comments together n submit the list to developer officially to request for rectification n improvement. We listed our comments n supported with facts so to handle matters in a more constructive manners. That is about what OV club is doing. I really do see why there bloggers trying to turn our good intention to something else, real buyers, can u see the logic behind for those who talk bad about the OV club?

orange manic :

justice :
@orange manic
More than 30 buyers joined the club? figure correct bo? with that huge amount of club members, why OV buyer club’s members still look so not confident eh, starting attacking peoples comments which have different opinions with them ? I’m buyer too, scary to see my future neigbours behave like an unmorality persons.

Do not question, the best is to see it yourself if u r a real buyers by joining us. But if u r happy with the quality n feel that more than half a million investment can be justified with what is provided, then i m happy for u too. OV club is just a platform or avenue provided to disappointed buyers who pull conserted efforts together to get improved quality house. All members r not interested in the attacking game! V respect u as a happy buyer if u r real, but pls also respect those upsad buyers n leave us alone to do what need to be done coz it will benefit to all buyers eventually.
Please dont simply give non-sensible comments about the OV club to mislead buyers. If u r happy with the quality, that is ok. If u r not happy, join us n put the comments together n submit the list to developer officially to request for rectification n improvement. We listed our comments n supported with facts so to handle matters in a more constructive manners. That is about what OV club is doing. I really do see why there bloggers trying to turn our good intention to something else, real buyers, can u see the logic behind for those who talk bad about the OV club?

I never doubt the effort by OV purchaser club to fight for OV buyers. I think the reason why some heated exchange of words happens here is because of certain club members’ attitude, which makes some buyers feel uneasy. I don’t agree when u say that “All member are not interested in the attacking game” because apparently some of them actually are the first to start to “attack” buyers who do not show urgency to complain to the developer. It seems like “If u r happy with the quality, that is NOT OK” for them. I can’t think of why a buyer want to quarrel with purchaser club who fight for them if not because of these type of people making provocative comments here. Anyway, this particular person may be very vocal in the group and aggressive in doing things, hope he/she won’t steer the whole club to Holland

@BD – i agree with ur comment lor…hehe…nice wording lor…..n i hv same opinions with u too lor..hehe…as i always said ma..the club eh objective to fight for buyer is a good move 1 lor…but sometimes too aggresive in doing things will make the situation lagi worst lor…hehe…just hope tat the “particular” person in the OV purchaser club will talk “nicely” n “patiently” n “rationally” with developer when they hv chance meet the developer lor n not bawa whole club members to “Holand” later on lor….best wishes to the club la !! hehe..

bd & ahtu – i’m glad to have both of u as my future neighbours, if my neighbours (at my left & right house) behave like mr.doggie’s or mr.birds, i will sure move out from ov.

@cookies
Actually I’m not a buyer of OV.

Doggie by nature is a good guard, you will need ppl like winniewowwow who is vocal and daring to fight for your rights. cookies and kwan are not the real buyer here or else you will understand winnie’s effort to keep barking here.

we must give our support to ppl who is vocal to represent the community. these are good leaders who never give up to pressure the developer

Fight in rational ways –> OK. Fight like mad dog –> will create a problem to whole community.

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BD :
@cookies
Actually I’m not a buyer of OV.

If u r not the buyers then u will never understand how the buyers feel. So your comment does not hold water

Do you all see that those people refuse to prove him self and still they have to talk like hero? Those name like a-pig, sis-ter, bd, cookies are just a phantom, their word carried zero weight. they are developer person and try to paint the fake picture that another 50% buyer are happy with their quality. This is what we call deviate focus, and provide developer one excuse of ignore the purchaser club feedback for improvement.

I dare you all go to group up in front of TahWah office, and ask to meet Mr Hong. Then officially hand over the letter to Mr Hong with journelist snap a photo and put up in new paper and upload in Penang Properties. Think will have bog group of angry nuyer come. Those who are happy with the house (due to your low expectation), just let the purchaser club to do their job. End of day, you all still benefit. No point to hit on what dog what bird. we all need people to contribute. Ahtu, tell us, what have u contribute besides, wearing a mask and painting wrong picture?

Tomorrow 3.00pm, at Autocity KFC, all real buyer, pls come and give your signatory support to our club, who will fight for you all.
Those happy buyer, u are welcome also you will know how good and how sincerewith good EQ for the club members. You will chg your impression. No matter how, this is the club who will live with you in Orange Villa. Pls come here with smiling face to meet you new fren and new orange villa family. We are a family and should work very close together to face out sider and developer.

@ orange villa lover

Yes we must pressure the developer to change the staircase handrail immediately, call the journalist in and some politician if you want me to arrange. Even some MPSP officer will be better. i used multiple name, that doesnt a matter, we put more comment on this forum if the developer is still so stubborn

Journalist is good enough, adun will be the next cause of action. When think about the hand rail, really feel very angry with TahWah, feel like got cheated.

Really want to see the famous OV hand rail lar like that. How come nobody post the picture URL here one ha? Upload online and share the URL for people to critique and comment lar…

i am very reluctant to give my comment here cos it’s like interacting with only a few ppl who used multiple names. from my observation, kenny, wowwow and birdies might be the same person but i dont understand why he kept saying that he has the knowledge to manage JMC, is a member of the OV Club, the OV Club has so many members but he’s still barking in this forum. many also suggested that he be the chairman, i doubt he could be a good chairman. he would give the community a hard time if his suggestions is not supported.

he’s here to condemn the developer and to tarnish the reputation of the OV Club. his comment which is mainly on the staircase handrail, keep harping on the same issue and saying that the letter is ready with so many items listed to be submitted to the developer will make other followers of this forum feel that the OV Club is very demanding and does not have enough supporters. he gives the impression that the OV club is useless so he has to act on his own.

@NewBuyer
you sounded very pathetic, go seek the help of OV club for help. you said you feel cheated, in what sense? unless you are the owner of the showhouse if not, your house is not ready yet. the developer has not handed over your house to you yet…..you mention journalist and adun, for what purpose. i’m sure the journalist and adun will laugh their heads off if you ask them to come in now. you must be a first time house buyer or some young chiku.

the comment in this forum has been too rojak, those who wants to buy should go to the site to see for yourself.

grandfather :i am very reluctant to give my comment here cos it’s like interacting with only a few ppl who used multiple names. from my observation, kenny, wowwow and birdies might be the same person but i dont understand why he kept saying that he has the knowledge to manage JMC, is a member of the OV Club, the OV Club has so many members but he’s still barking in this forum. many also suggested that he be the chairman, i doubt he could be a good chairman. he would give the community a hard time if his suggestions is not supported.
he’s here to condemn the developer and to tarnish the reputation of the OV Club. his comment which is mainly on the staircase handrail, keep harping on the same issue and saying that the letter is ready with so many items listed to be submitted to the developer will make other followers of this forum feel that the OV Club is very demanding and does not have enough supporters. he gives the impression that the OV club is useless so he has to act on his own.
@NewBuyeryou sounded very pathetic, go seek the help of OV club for help. you said you feel cheated, in what sense? unless you are the owner of the showhouse if not, your house is not ready yet. the developer has not handed over your house to you yet…..you mention journalist and adun, for what purpose. i’m sure the journalist and adun will laugh their heads off if you ask them to come in now. you must be a first time house buyer or some young chiku.
the comment in this forum has been too rojak, those who wants to buy should go to the site to see for yourself.

kenny is kenny, wow is wow angrybird also got red, yellow and green ………. but now what else you can said now have more then this a few usual name. We all just an individual buyer who have same thinking. Important is, what is you intention to comment like this, what is you gain or contribution to all the buyer here. I have never meet developer yet. You grandpapa, may be too old already to simply say some one want to be come chairman.

grandfather :i am very reluctant to give my comment here cos it’s like interacting with only a few ppl who used multiple names. from my observation, kenny, wowwow and birdies might be the same person but i dont understand why he kept saying that he has the knowledge to manage JMC, is a member of the OV Club, the OV Club has so many members but he’s still barking in this forum. many also suggested that he be the chairman, i doubt he could be a good chairman. he would give the community a hard time if his suggestions is not supported.
he’s here to condemn the developer and to tarnish the reputation of the OV Club. his comment which is mainly on the staircase handrail, keep harping on the same issue and saying that the letter is ready with so many items listed to be submitted to the developer will make other followers of this forum feel that the OV Club is very demanding and does not have enough supporters. he gives the impression that the OV club is useless so he has to act on his own.
@NewBuyeryou sounded very pathetic, go seek the help of OV club for help. you said you feel cheated, in what sense? unless you are the owner of the showhouse if not, your house is not ready yet. the developer has not handed over your house to you yet…..you mention journalist and adun, for what purpose. i’m sure the journalist and adun will laugh their heads off if you ask them to come in now. you must be a first time house buyer or some young chiku.
the comment in this forum has been too rojak, those who wants to buy should go to the site to see for yourself.

I will support whoever bird, kenny or wowwow, club who really can represend us to liase with TahWah. The meeting today will gather all purchaser. Grandfather, AhTu, if you are a real human, pls attn, pls stop deviate the club attention and focus here.

@grandfather
Good say, myself and some others, such as Hybrid3d, PenangBMW, Orange Manic, Chin, Grace, Orangebunny, Peggy, etc ..have already been keeping quite for a while… It is not so good to condemn developer publicly or personal attack to some real or fake buyers in this forum. We won’t get anything for damaging the developer’s reputation, so we have moved to “secret” Facebook group.

Item like color issue, and some other personal preference issue, have been omitted in the comment/ suggestion list. Some issues are minor, while some are major. We want the letter to sound logic and quality issue and sensible things that we request shall not be too difficult for the developer to implement, while providing more value/ benefits to buyers.

Come join us today, 3PM at Autocity KFC, 1st floor. We want to collect more feedback, comments, and suggestion, and finalize the letter before proceeding to face the developer, we actually already short in time.

Thank you.

My relation with developer is good and still visiting the show house almost every time they open house. As above some say, if you have already satisfied. just leave the Club who have high expectation to do the job. Leave them and do not paint a picture that the buyer area break into 2 teams. We are not. Team A, the club is real and Team B, you r real or not only God know. Let the team work for you and you will benefit also eventually.

Unless u are developer or sabotager.

@mr. upsad
As a non-buyer, I have the advantage of commenting without being carried away by emotion, as people say – view from outside is clearer

If I’m an OV buyer, I will support the club and put my signature in. But this is not my point. The reason I comment here is because I see that some moderate type of buyers are not respected by some members of purchaser club. You may think that they are from developer or from the same person using multiple nicknames to kacau. You may be right but what if if you are wrong? You are hurting your future neighbours and making them feel that OV is no more a great neighbourhood to stay. You have to accept that there are people who do not share the exactly same feeling as you to any matter.

@To Whom It May Concern
If you are worry that “comments that favour the developer” here will jeopardize purchaser club’s effort (which may be the reason why you are angry and suspicious), I understand that but you don’t need to worry much as there will be surely more buyers who will support purchaser club. This is human nature. If we are good, we want better, when we are better, we want the best. I think developer will know this and they don’t expect 100% non-happy buyers or 100% happy buyers in any trade. As long as buyers’ demand is logic and not excessive (which I think it will be as there are also sensible persons in the club – manic, juice, winnie etc), developer will take it seriously (only if the developer is considerate & nice). If the developer is sombong or samseng-like, then it will be very difficult even if buyers’ demand is just basic thing.

Good Luck & gambate to purchaser club!

I am not buyer of OV & not the staff from developer, today i went to visit the sample house, ya, i am agreed the buyers complaint about staircase handrail, it is cheap quality & design is not safe for kid even for adult (the height is low). I have height phobia, when I reached 3rd floor & look down, it really scared….

The sales person told me company will change the handrail, but need time to get design & installation ready, therefore, all frustrated buyers, at this moment, be patience & give developer time to rectify & change it. Developer has received the buyers complaints & feedback, if not, the staff won’t told me about the handrail issue (at that time i visit the sample house, i did not mention about handrail).

Conclusion, I will continue to look for suitable house on the place, I prefer 2 storey house now.

i agree with wat @grandfather n @BD n @ tung said lor …kam xia especially to @BD n @tung especially on saying good things to my future home orange vila although both of u are not the buyers laa….hehe…

To all ov eh club members laa:

as i always mentioned n mentioned laa…i never doubt on the purchaser club eh members eh efforts to get more better house n materials n workmanships n so on laa from developer end…i oso buyer ma…i oso want better house like u all la..if can save my reno budget lagi bagus la…hehehe…… i respect n solute club members eh efforts like coming out the suggestions n concerns lists stuffs n try to meet with developer face to face to raise concern n suggestions n views laa…….but i really NOT AGREE with some of the club members eh ways on trying to bombark or creating bad images on developer thru internet world lor ….to me la, this is not the professional ways laa…i foresee at last laa, if u all still do that la, not oni developer will get hit by u all eh critics thru this talk site, my lovely taman orange vila itself will kena hit too laa…u all might hapy to c developer get hitted laa..but dun u all think that actually we as a buyer here oso will be in a lost site too lor if we all follow birds or dog eh ways to bombark developer here….? as a real buyers la, if u all think worth to bombark at here to get developer eh attention, then huh…bo huat liao la..but i think u all r selfish person lor…not think on other buyers eh feeling lor…i mean the other buyers that not join ur club eh lor..hehe…think think kua wat i said is true or not la…hehe..

as usual la…u all hv rights to not agree with my comments laa…hehe..i respect u all eh thinking too ..hehe..but pls respect other ppls eh thinking too laa…

lastly, i really love my future home – Orange Villa….hehe…i hope u all will love it as well….hehe…

Orange Juice :@grandfather Good say, myself and some others, such as Hybrid3d, PenangBMW, Orange Manic, Chin, Grace, Orangebunny, Peggy, etc ..have already been keeping quite for a while… It is not so good to condemn developer publicly or personal attack to some real or fake buyers in this forum. We won’t get anything for damaging the developer’s reputation, so we have moved to “secret” Facebook group.
Item like color issue, and some other personal preference issue, have been omitted in the comment/ suggestion list. Some issues are minor, while some are major. We want the letter to sound logic and quality issue and sensible things that we request shall not be too difficult for the developer to implement, while providing more value/ benefits to buyers.
Come join us today, 3PM at Autocity KFC, 1st floor. We want to collect more feedback, comments, and suggestion, and finalize the letter before proceeding to face the developer, we actually already short in time.
Thank you.

@orange juice,
u r right lor !! i like ur style n u r more rational if compare to others club eh members laa.. …hehe …although i’m not sign the letter to developer laa…but i moral support ur move laa…cause u sounds more polite n patient n rational n professional like me too……hehe… besides olor lu, i ka ki olor ka ki too..hehe..pai sei pai sei…hehe..

Actually beside Staircase railing, we also bring up 23 items to request developer for improvement. One topic is UNIFI cable by TMnet. Most of you must want to know why we brought out. CCTV numbers. Backyard nebor partition height. air-con piping. back room air-con compressor location. 2nd level masterbed room balcony without roof, expose to direct rain drop and sun light. All this may catch a lot of interest from all of you, that you amy not realise that if we dont do this, later owner or JMC will have very high cost to do it.
Btw, today the purchaser club have good session and warm discussion among bird-birds and dog-dog, we have some banana and pomelo also.

We also plan to ask about the common facilities quality e.g. Gym quality, Pool quality, Main guard house enterence, gardening quality. We need to show concenr and interest prior to developer start dump money to build. As least we brought and let developer have 2nd thought. They could change if really make sense to them. This also part of the effort to make Orange Villa No 1 in Bm/Bw. Better then Palm Villas. Actually do you all think that the house for Orange Villa is more beautiful and more like a house than Palm Villas? I have this thinking.

@LimPek
Inlfuencing developer prior to actual construction might be a good start. More importantly, the long term sustaining of your OV G&G will depend on few key items below:
1. JMB – Elect mixture of sensible and agressive people. If can get a lawyer in the team, it will be a bonus.
2. Organize regular event to promote good neighbourhood feeling. In Palm Villa, we had 3 functions last year, Cheh 9 (ninth day of CNY celebration), Hungry Ghost festival & Palm Villa sports day. All these are done from self sponsorship. This is to ensure neighbours get together and it helps in getting neighbours to rally/work together to the betterment of the G&G community.
3. Reduce non-payment of maintenance fees/sinking fund (there are always some bad apples in a box of apples). Always remember: Once your monthly expenditure is > than monthly collection, it will mean than your G&G is not healthy and facilities will deteriorate over time which quality will drop. Good owners will start lacking in their payment also because others are not paying and even after they paid, the facilities get worst. JMB to work closely with Management Office to timely enforce legal means to pursue the the overdue payment.
4. Volunteerism: any event organized by JMB, do participate. Last 2 years we had a gotong royong to clean the drain from blockage. We WORK with developer to get some of their workers to clean up drains that are blocked by construction residue. Now, there are less mosquitoes in our home. I highlighted here “WORK with developer”. This is very important. Logic and sensible demand will always be heard.

@LimPek
you said pomelo also attended the meeting? huh? i thought i’m the only pomelo here but i didnt attend. it’s the dog dog and bird bird that scares me off and i dont think i need to join the OV Club yet. when i’m upset with the developer i will join the club one day

Sorry huh, just take a name of fruit only, does not mean u laaa … come support us, so mane thing good to address now.

Palm Villa :@LimPek Inlfuencing developer prior to actual construction might be a good start. More importantly, the long term sustaining of your OV G&G will depend on few key items below:1. JMB – Elect mixture of sensible and agressive people. If can get a lawyer in the team, it will be a bonus.2. Organize regular event to promote good neighbourhood feeling. In Palm Villa, we had 3 functions last year, Cheh 9 (ninth day of CNY celebration), Hungry Ghost festival & Palm Villa sports day. All these are done from self sponsorship. This is to ensure neighbours get together and it helps in getting neighbours to rally/work together to the betterment of the G&G community.3. Reduce non-payment of maintenance fees/sinking fund (there are always some bad apples in a box of apples). Always remember: Once your monthly expenditure is > than monthly collection, it will mean than your G&G is not healthy and facilities will deteriorate over time which quality will drop. Good owners will start lacking in their payment also because others are not paying and even after they paid, the facilities get worst. JMB to work closely with Management Office to timely enforce legal means to pursue the the overdue payment.4. Volunteerism: any event organized by JMB, do participate. Last 2 years we had a gotong royong to clean the drain from blockage. We WORK with developer to get some of their workers to clean up drains that are blocked by construction residue. Now, there are less mosquitoes in our home. I highlighted here “WORK with developer”. This is very important. Logic and sensible demand will always be heard.

A very good point No 1. JMC need to be sensitive and also aggresive. If too many pigeon, alos got bully by other bad resident.

Yes … cannot be too nice, else how to control? Some of you many talk cheap here, want to be nice, but him self not even want to expose him own identity and join the club, cheap talk here. I how read can see who have not crediblity here.

Not easy as JMC, and also not monetory income one. Actually not many people want to be JMC. If you want to know why i can be JMC for 3 years, then you meet me, we make friend and i can tell u all the story. Aiii ………. in short, you all have to know the whole concept of Condo and GnG houses, we all own and share the whole compound and building, we all have responsibility to manage and response to it.

Visited the site yesterday n surprise to see the original unit condition. The I.D was nice especially the artic…..but soorry to actual one. I m from the island n decided to get the Balik pilau unit.

@Hedges
You can try Permatang Sactuary

@Hedges
You can try Permatang Sactuary by IJM . .

Pls use Wikimania Map to check on the site for Permatang Sanctury, you will see too too too many Chicken, Pig farm near by. Further, got one call Chicken Hill. Better don’t. Buy Orange Villa better.

Just received a sms the show unit is selling >1.3M. Total renovation cost abt 600k including the lift abt 100k. Can u accept the selling price?

Don’t let the developer ripe off your skin….way too expensive, i went to check on the show unit, impressive!!! but i think the renovation cost would be around 350-400k, not more than that!

I wonder or maybe someone at the mainland would buy ….1.3m? It is dead end but if u invested in the island at the same amount of 1.3m…when completed easily profit 300k.

@Hedges

Totally agree with you. Property price in BM has been crazy. We keep telling people, don’t let the greedy developer ripe your skin, drink your blood and eat your meat, if you have nowhere to spend money wisely, go donate to some charity organization rather than helping the developer to pay for their expensive life style. i bought some properties in the past, I almost wanted to bring the developer to court due to some promises they can not keep.

Be a smart buyer!!!

BM,Juru and Seberang Jaya location is not for me, I prefer B’worth area.
It doesn’t matter at all if the price goes up, traffic jams area.

Unifi is a must! Look at the amount of comments in the forum. The broad band line in orange villa will be jam up in future! Ha ha ha @LimPek

5th OV Purchaser Club Gathering

Date: 19/5/2012 (Saturday)
Time: 3 PM
Venue: AutoCity KFC, 1st floor

Agenda:
1) Registration of new member
2) Any additional comment and issue
3) Voting for approval of finalized version of letter and list
4) Signing the letter if you are agreeable and not yet signed
5) General discussion

Orange Juice :5th OV Purchaser Club Gathering
Date: 19/5/2012 (Saturday)Time: 3 PMVenue: AutoCity KFC, 1st floor
Agenda:1) Registration of new member2) Any additional comment and issue3) Voting for approval of finalized version of letter and list4) Signing the letter if you are agreeable and not yet signed5) General discussion

wah lau eh..yet not submit the letter to tah wah ? slow slow wait for what lar..

wahlaueh :

Orange Juice :5th OV Purchaser Club Gathering
Date: 19/5/2012 (Saturday)Time: 3 PMVenue: AutoCity KFC, 1st floor
Agenda:1) Registration of new member2) Any additional comment and issue3) Voting for approval of finalized version of letter and list4) Signing the letter if you are agreeable and not yet signed5) General discussion

wah lau eh..yet not submit the letter to tah wah ? slow slow wait for what lar..

may be waiting for more new member…..lah..

@ww

Like that how to cari makan ? too slow liao lah, should send to TW first and see what they said then. Contruction progress is running fast, now can see the 3 storey frameworks buildings behind the show house !