I am from island, I went to see all g&g property in mainland , Palm Villas is the best of all……….

@Best

At this stage, we will let palm vila temporary take that “the best” wording first la…hehe…cause orange vila still in piling stage nia ma …later when orange vila 100% completed its construction liao n we all stay inside liao, we’ll take that wording back from palm vila la..this is for sure 1 la…haha..got compete balu eh chin por ma…let’s c la….hehe

What orange manic did is correct, that’s the way to do it rather than tembak the developer who is not here to defence. A few of my children’s friends dare not buy orange villa after reading this forum, not because they are scared of the developer but the future neighbors. Some of you really sounds ridiculous and too much. See you all there, i dont have anything to complain other than the staircase handrail of which the developer already said they will improve but i just want to know what you all will be discussing.

AhTu, Palm Villas location very good ….when OV 100% completed pun cannot say ” the best ”
in mainland cos location so so only……If Palm Villas is number 2, no other g&g property will be
number 1… rite?…hehe… as I know people in island who want to buy g&g with swimming pool property will go for Palm Villas……and also the price now still increasing ……

@Best
u r from island ma n not from BM , u r not familiar with BM area lor…i stayed at BM veli long time liao n know veli well the BM areas la….orange vila eh location is gold n berlian laa…if u go jalan jalan nearby song ban kheng road there n ask around, then u will know what i said is true or not liao la..hehe..orange vila price aso increasing now too la..in fact all house price are increasing la no matter old or new house lor, not only palm villa increasing nia lor…this is called inflation ma…..hehe…

@grandfather
yup…agree with u lor…may b some of the bloggers here are not the real buyers n just from the competitor that came here to sabotaj this project eh sales….hehe..i guess nia la….so meeting among the Purchaser Association members n compile concerns n suggestion then send back to developer is the best way la…..hehe..

grandfather :What orange manic did is correct, that’s the way to do it rather than tembak the developer who is not here to defence. A few of my children’s friends dare not buy orange villa after reading this forum, not because they are scared of the developer but the future neighbors. Some of you really sounds ridiculous and too much. See you all there, i dont have anything to complain other than the staircase handrail of which the developer already said they will improve but i just want to know what you all will be discussing.

@grandfather

Hi Grand Papa, respect you and call u grand papa.
It is a right move if one cannot follow rule, not suitable to be Oranger to avoid future conflict or bad apple in our sweet GnG garden. You never involve manage an apartment i understood you. Any lazy to keep repeat already, u juts read above conversation laaa.

You have to remember the value of GnG concept or Condoninium. Do you want your condominium like Gold Coast Condo or BJ Court (Penas), both also started as high class condo, but the later one fall apart. SWe dont want OV to be fall apart and we want it to be leading, hope can be better Palm Villas (like AhTu said).

If you want very much freedom, not here in Orange Villa

@ Little Winnie

Orange Villa will definitely work well with people like you around. To make orange villa better than palm villas will depend on the cooperation of the residents. Everyone must live harmoniously and abide the rules and follow the do’s and don’ts. The way you all demanded from the developer is really too much. ask to change the colour just because of your own preference, water tap position to suit your needs, plaster ceiling, colour of tiles, this and that. You all think you build your own banglo meh. Might as well ask the developer to custom build your house to your needs. Build the kitchen cabinet as well better lor.

That’s why i said orange manic is good lor, gather all the request and discuss with the developer rather than hantam hantam until orange villa also no laku liau, those who read this forum run away liau….like Ah Tu said…how lam lor. I would say Little Winnie, your way is a wrong approach. I have to be nice to you my little winnie cos in future you might be the chairwoman of the residents association.

Orange Juice :As told by the developer that they are not going to do anything about the car porch roof opening, they are expecting all buyers to install a roof cover themselves . Their designer messed up the design, swapped the letter box/PBA meter box with green area, and leave a hole for buyers, let rainwater dripping into car porch and wet everywhere, how can they not fixing this? We have to protest about this. If developer don’t do it, at the end every house will install their own, with various types, various colored metal roof, glass roof, plastic roof, different profiled tile roof, etc…and spoil the unity of gated and guarded scheme design.

Fully agreed with juice …. this is a major concern of me, regarding developer attitude. TahWah, pls look into this.!

AhTu :@Orange Juice I agree with u on the car porch roof opening stuffs….i oso highlighted the same to the developer and get the same answer as u too lor…developer put an opening there to allow sunlight masuk but at the bottom is not a green area . the car porch n PBA simen box sure get wet if rain n if resident not put up any covers there lor…not only the car porch will get wet, day after day the PBA simen box sure get dirty with green alga eh la if titi kena rain..hehe…their designer really no professional la..design things always not think ahead 1, n at last ask the buyer to kau tim by themself the flaw on the design …hehe…if later resident chin chin chai chai covered it using plastic or sa kat pan due to tight budget then how lam liao lor…..resident will say i’m not breaking the GnG rules ma cause the sa kat pan or plastic that i placed on will not be seeing if u see from outside 1 la….just joking..haha….

Yes … developer need to show us a good attitude in respond to us. I start to worry developer may not serious in managing OVilla, i not they also not fix the building out look well. Next time owner will do thing them self …. end up with all the blame to developer.

Surely a good new to me that developer will chg the staircase holder …. but they have to change the 2nd show house and let us see it. Who know, just pasang one pcs of stupid wood on top of the stupid iron holder … haha ….. looking forward to too the new design.
Developer know me, winniewowwow n ahtu , it will be good if they can call me and ahtu to join them to select the design. Hahaha, may be we are dreaming. But u have to trust me taste to select a reasonable staircase rail and holder. Hahaha.

But i am still stress to developer that, external look is very inportant, try to may it as complete as poosible to avoid owner simple ask for reno, and then lead to conflict with JMC and reno without approval. What can we do if everyone reno randomly? Too bad, then we cann win the No#1 best GnG from Palm Villas already.

Kelvin :Hi guys, the developer just confirmed that they will change the staircase handrail and together with the tiles. Asked about what design, they feedback that still in the stage of design. Hope this is a goods news to all the buyer

Btw, who are you kelvin, purchaser or developer? Or phantom reader?

To Orange Manic, i am not phantom reader as i have been consistently provide input in this forum. I dont trust FB but will try to squeeze my time to join u this Sat.

@WinnieWowWow
Try to join Facebook discussion, some issues better discuss privately rather than in public (here) ..

@grandfather

soli..i m not agree with u when u said we r are demanding on this n that lor…actually we’r not demanding person la, we r just giving our concerns n suggestions n our views to developer nia…buyer as a consumer has the right to voice concerns to developer n we did hope that developer will deliver good house to us too la n oso hope tah wah will success in their first project in BM areas la…if u got follow penang property talks eh others projects eh talks, u can c lot of ppls also hentam lai hentam ki n oso hentam their developer too..hehe..it is normal la cause everyone use nicknames in this penang property talk site ma, the blogger some are from real buyer, some may be from competitor, some might from developer itself n some might be other housing projects eh buyer come to make fire here n there on the hope that potential buyer can switch to buy the house that as same project as them lor…hehe..dun be feel strange la when u r one of the blogger too ..this is so called internet world…hehe..

i m agree with u when u said the correct way to voice concerns is like what orangemanic did lor..hehe…

The SMART potential buyer will make his/own justification when they plan to buy a house, the comments in this blog are just one of the small guidelines for them to know better on the project nia..the rest of buying points are more toward survey n survey n survey …i mean survey the site n its surrounding to c whether it is worth buy or not la ! hehe

orange manic :Hi all Genuine buyers, OV purchaser club will be having a meeting in this upcoming Saturday on 21/4 at 3pm. We will be meeting up at 糖伯府 cafe near Gemilang. Full address is: No.1 jalan perniagaan gemilang 1, pusat perniagaan gemilang 14000 bukit mertajam. If u a genuine purchaser of OV, come join us! How do u identify our members? Easy! When u see an OV t-shirt on the table with a group of people smile at you like an orange..there will be where we are..!
Remember, our meeting is not to arm-twist the developer but to seek fairness and ensure a quality home is delivered to us. Bring along with your impartial suggestions n comments..will address the issues step-by-step n come out with the next course of actions in the meeting.
Some of u who r actively in the blog is time to show up n make things moving…

Hi Ornage manic, pls add me into FB … winniewow@rocketmail.com … and see u on Sat, 3pm

@AhTu
we have the freedom to talk — last time old people said, word cannot si suah kong, thing can si suah eat. grandfather is the last time old people. But now is different, word can si suah kong but thing cannot si suah eat. that’s why we have internet — can talk and write anything .. he he

lost it is ok …. developer have agreed to chg the staircase rail. good job everyone and tahwah

@WinnieWowWow

Welcome to the club n everyone in the group are looking fwd to seeing u and AH Tu. …Piggy Piggy, u joining?

WinnieWowWow :

Kelvin :Hi guys, the developer just confirmed that they will change the staircase handrail and together with the tiles. Asked about what design, they feedback that still in the stage of design. Hope this is a goods news to all the buyer

Btw, who are you kelvin, purchaser or developer? Or phantom reader?
To Orange Manic, i am not phantom reader as i have been consistently provide input in this forum. I dont trust FB but will try to squeeze my time to join u this Sat.

I think v should not take this answer as a gospel truth coz v nvr knw who u r n you seems just appeared in this forum. Dont mean to offend u but pls reveal yr status with the OV purchaser club if u r a real buyer And further confirm with us in our saturday meeting. Surely all members will be very happy to hear this.

orange manic :

WinnieWowWow :

Kelvin :Hi guys, the developer just confirmed that they will change the staircase handrail and together with the tiles. Asked about what design, they feedback that still in the stage of design. Hope this is a goods news to all the buyer

Btw, who are you kelvin, purchaser or developer? Or phantom reader?To Orange Manic, i am not phantom reader as i have been consistently provide input in this forum. I dont trust FB but will try to squeeze my time to join u this Sat.

I think v should not take this answer as a gospel truth coz v nvr knw who u r n you seems just appeared in this forum. Dont mean to offend u but pls reveal yr status with the OV purchaser club if u r a real buyer And further confirm with us in our saturday meeting. Surely all members will be very happy to hear this.

See u on Sat …. AhTu ….. u come? … pls ……….

@Best
For BM folks or those working near BM, OV location is better. For BW folks or those from Island in which BW is the only place in mainland they know, then Palm Villa has better location.

Anyway, one G&G in BM that I think may be overlooked is the one next to Alma Jaya. I never went in but from the look from outside, it looks nice with a half basketball court as well.

@BD

You are right on PV and OV !

AhTu:

I had read all your comment & suggest not bad ……. why not you try ask Tah Wah boss to employ you as a OV adviser ma…..

@Sugst

Halo Sugst…kam xia kam xia for ur support….hehe… i just share share my views nia la…hehe…we nid to always learning from each other no matter thru this blogs or in our life…asking n listen to ppl eh views can make us improve in our knowledges no matter we think we r oledi expert or we think we r less expert or we think we r totally no expert at all in the areas lor…rasional thinking can help us improve lor…hehe

grandfather :What orange manic did is correct, that’s the way to do it rather than tembak the developer who is not here to defence. A few of my children’s friends dare not buy orange villa after reading this forum, not because they are scared of the developer but the future neighbors. Some of you really sounds ridiculous and too much. See you all there, i dont have anything to complain other than the staircase handrail of which the developer already said they will improve but i just want to know what you all will be discussing.

Grandpapa, As I said, we shouldn’t take any comments/feeback stated here as a gospel truth as these are purely for reference only.

If you wanna kown what we going to talk about in this upcoming meeting, just spare sometime with the group then you will get to know more! If you are the real buyer, for sure all of us welcome you as part of the OV club member!

AhTu……do OV got water tank on the rooftop…? I didn’t saw it,

halo WinnieWowWow, Orange juice/maniac, ah tu, hybrd1234 etc

pls dun simply say u all represent OV buyers lar, u all just represent a few nia lar, dun simply say u represent OV buyers, u have no right lar.

many ppl get scared by the comments by u all, by the way, ppl wanna follow rules, but not u all..

not to say u all cannot form club or group, but need to be clear here tht i, as a buyer, do not agree to be represented by u all.

u all should make it clear that u all do not reprenset OV buyer. dun confuse ppl here, u all have no right too.

actually, the way ov buyers complain this and that in this forum does more harm than good.

@New

yes lor….. my friend want to buy also takut already…… wanted to follow their law no freedom lor….hehe…

@Viven

u should tell your fren not certain they will be the JMC chairman, they can form their own club but they have no right to represent us.
i believe most of the ppl will follow rules, but follow the way the talk, no way.

@New

but too late already…my friend decided to purchase Palm Villas cos the rules not so strict can rear pets …….

New:

I think AhTu just gave comment , suggestion and reason only…… he is not going to represent all of us rite……AhTu……

overall I am ok with the project and i do not agree with suggestions given by this group, which i feel is asking too much.

No one is representing anyone of us here, until they are elected by the majority…but most of us are voicing our dissatisfaction of the quality of work produced by the ‘supposedly’ first class developer….

@New
ya, agree, i really ‘feel tire’ with this ppl, never stop complaining

Bear in mind that not every items in the list will be the final list to discuss /request from the developer..they are just collection of comment/suggestion/idea, the final one will be going through voting by people joining the club first, we follow majority (of the club members). NO, the club does not represent all buyers.

In seeking of balance between the price we paid and the value (quality) we get, what we finally want is a win-win and fairness to both parties.

So many negative comments in this forum from buyers, I think OV cannot be that good lo… hehe…

Normally buyers die die defend their purchase one wor, to make sure the value will continue to go up one ma…

@wbk
u r right..first time i c buyer not protect his/her consumer right 1 la…i guess may be they’re not real buyer laa..haha…world of internet ma…n lot of nick names suddenly appeared in orange vila eh blog lor..haha..good too la..no matter the comments are good or bad from the bloggers…orange vila eh blog site ALWAYS #1 in the penang property talk under recent post section lor..good 1 laa…haha..

V@gmal.my :AhTu……do OV got water tank on the rooftop…? I didn’t saw it,

got lor…if not mistaken, beside the roof top lor..but i think developer not put up yet for the show unit lor..hehe

wbk :So many negative comments in this forum from buyers, I think OV cannot be that good lo… hehe…
Normally buyers die die defend their purchase one wor, to make sure the value will continue to go up one ma…

hmm… r u sure the negative comments all are from buyer ? hehe…think think laa..i think most of the negative comment are came from competitor lor..hehe.. if came from buyer, normally buyer will gave facts when they throw negative comment here la..i think la…may b same competitor use 20 nicknames to sabotaj orange vila lor…orange vila eh sales good ma now..only left 20+ units …ppl red eyes with this project ma …how lam lor if my guess is correct la…haha…

AhTu…….
I went in to see the show house it ok for me……. the air-con piping can cover up with plaster ceiling….. if the stair case handrail look not safe can add some iron design to look more safety and beautiful as we like…..for me I buy new house have to do some interior renovation make it look different & beautiful….. only worry whether can rear pets…? hope OV residents majority allow to rear pets………hehe

@CR

halo CR, i think u better ask developer on pet eh question lor…cause if i not mistaken la, for the 1st yr, developer will jaga rules laa n not JMC la..only start from 2nd yrs, JMC that voted by residents there balu setup ki la…hehe..

@orange manic
could u pls add me to the purchaser club too? my email is ahtu_88@yahoo.com …kam xia kam xia …hehe…again..good move guys….proud with wat u guys did to make a orange vila a good house to stay lor !! hehe

To all: this forum become rojak now. A lot of people use multiple nicknames and repeat n repeat the same questions n argument again n again…We are all tired of reading all those non-sence. Real buyers, pls continue constructive discussions in FB. But before that, gather this Saturday to proof the real identity, not hiding behind. We have seen the result…staircase. It proofs that developer is receptive.

OrangeManic, have you add me into FB? I am winniewow@rocketmail.com

@WinnieWowWow

I have sent u an invites tis noon, u got that? Nvm, let me resend now

@WinnieWowWow

Just resent invites to u. Pls accept. Saw yr beautiful doggie,, nice pix

@AhTu

I m glad tat u r convinced finally..he.he. v r hv been waiting for u for long, just added u in fb. c u this sat

The doggie is winniewowwow ans the write here actually is name Alex … nice to meet ….. but here, still call me Winniewowwow

The doggie is winniewowwow and nice to meet …..

We have a few more issues / concerns to discuss tomorrow (not listed here, yet).

@orange manic
kam xia orangemanic ! hehe…nice to c u all in FB..hehe …n looks like banyek orang join the club juga lor…good la…hehe

@Chin n @TanPek n @Grace n @V@gmal.my n oso All The Orang Vila eh Buyers:

i hope u all can join too if u all not join the orange vila eh purchaser club eh FB la…dun woli, it is free of charge la….hehe…or u all oledi in the FB liao? ..hehe…

no harm to join this club, can meet our frens n future neighbours too lor….hehe…besides can hear future neighbours eh suggestions n concerns n discussion, u oso can give ur views too ma…no wrong or right n dun woli u will kena tembak by the member there when giving views la..hehe….but of course la, ur views nid to come with a reasonable fact la! rational thinking ma…hehe..

if u dun like or not trust FB that same as me,..then u can oso directly go to “tong pet hu tong sui” shop at gemilang business center at song ban kheng road this saturday which is tomolo eh 3pm la…if u r a shy person n not like to cakap banyek 1, just say halo to ur neighbour when meet there oso good wat..rite? ….hehe..think think kua la…no force 1 laa…

We hv the same aims here –> making orange vila #1 eh good to stay place at BM area la !!!! haha..

Yes …. owner and developer have to do their parts.
On Developer side, they should provide complete out-side look of the building, to avoid owner ask to do awning them self. If the out-side design bad, developer need to provide it or install it so they purchase do not need to install their own.
If Purchase insist, 50% owner ageed and 50% not agreed, then developer will have very hard time to manage d.
If everything go well, our side look of the house look good, tell u, dveloper will earn a very good comment. People may call TahWah …. ‘A Small But Beautiful’ developer company. The very good for TahWah’s ‘Orange Brand Series’ in future. May of current purchaser will be TahWah supporter and potential buyer for future projects.

I will try to make on Saturday…I am working but I might send a representative…

TahWah should treasure all this real purchaser feedback and improve from here.
If TahWah want to really stand good in this business to compete with AirMAs, IJM, BSG, Belleview, PLB those big player, TahWah have to do something different, not only the price, but also build house that really like and suit and satisfy purchaser. The the success TahWah will be sooner or later. Build a Good Brand name and pls dont spell in the first project.
Until today, we can see that most purchaser is still supporting TahWah and willing to coorporate (in management of the GnG) in future.
Make Orange Villa the BEST GnG Garden in Bw/Bm area. Trust me, we will ……

Just back from OV show house…very impressive especially the 98k lift :p

Needs to spend at least RM 200k to RM 300k to do renovation b4 can move in, including lift. Finally this house will cost nearly million Ringgit.

where gone winniewow, orangejuice and ah tu …

looks like got ppl wanted to sabotaj this project thru this blog lor…tried to make potential buyers angry n thought their neighbour all are no good n cannot cham siong 1 lor…in fact this is not true la….we r all good neighbour that wanted to make our orange vila looks great n nice la..haha..i think the best ways to overcome the “sabotaj to this project thru this blog” issue is to keep silent lor..haha…if u got any concerns, then u can join the purchaser club la n ask from there la…or u can contact developer to clear ur doubt lor…it is good to talk at purchaser club eh FB than here. la….hehe

i’ll more passive in this blog as of now lor…n i will only give my feedback or my views if you’re real buyer that got questions regarding this project at here lor..hehe..

@lost – i think only u give up only but not us lor….we still like orange vila lor …u still not sell ur unit meh…a lot of ppl wanted to buy ur unit lor if u plan to sell it at 518k..but i think u may not a real buyer lor as far as i know 518k not the price for now or the early birds eh price too lor…i saw u commented in permatang santuary eh blog on how good is permatanf santuary eh project lor..may b u r the permatang sanctuary eh buyer n not orange vila eh lor….hehe..i guess nia la… i hope u can sell ur unit if u really hv 1 in orange vila lor…cause from ur comments, i think permatang santuary more suit u n not orange vila lor..my views oni la…good luck la…

The only way to discard those sabotage personnel is to keep silence from the blog..Real buyers, if u really have concerns or sound suggestions, pls come join the OV purchaser club, u will deal with a group of real buyers n lget to listen to more contructive comments. We are progessively addressing issues concerned thru concerted efforts together with all real buyers for the benefit of our quality house!

One condition to join the club is to prepare to reveal your real status as buyers with your unit number, coz we want to ensure that NO sabotage personnel come to the club…

We are going to have a 2nd meeting very soon. If u like to meet with a group of sincere real buyers like myself, Winnewow, orange juice, AhTu..and many more , Pls email to me at jleong328@gmail.com, indicate your real name n unit number, I will then link u to the OV purchaser club’s FB.

To all Blogger and Oranger Villa buyer, so far we have see some benefit of sharing feeback in the forum, understand from a few real buyer on last meeting, at Gemilang, developer agreed to change away ‘the stupid staircase holder’ with a better quality.
Hope the quality are real good.

Btw, AhTu, so far people trust u, but if you did not show out, the word and input in the forum will be weak. Integrity will be questionable ……. pls show ur self ….

老宅男 :
Needs to spend at least RM 200k to RM 300k to do renovation b4 can move in, including lift. Finally this house will cost nearly million Ringgit.

That is the perception created by the developer, they are expecting everyone to do major renovation before moving it, which we believe is not a right attitude.

@AhTu
people at permatang sactuary also scold me lah … let me tell you the truth now .. I’m new house property investor so, I’m a true & genuine buyer but I won’t hold on the house for long . . I will sell it later. You can blame me (one of the many property investor) for making the house price gone up. This is my job as a property investor. I talk a little bit good about Permatang Sactuary bcos I believe the price will go up bcos IJM makes a lot of rich people getting richer.

i went to the site wanna see the sample house around 11:30am, unfortunately unable to get in as the main gate is closed (developer gave me the wrong info the sample available for view everyday from 10am to 5pm).

The entrance road to the site is narrow & the terrace houses (taman betik indah) on the left (the Mahkamah building on the right) really concern for me making decision to buy the house at OV, is there other access road to OV??

I notice most owners here more on discuss on house quality but less concern of access road to OV. It will be very congested in future & even worst if front row of houses (taman betik indah) organise wedding or funeral function.

@Tao
the entrance road issue has been discussed at here too liao..u can find in previous previous comments lor if u interested on to know what lang eh comments on orange vila eh entrance road..u can c our previous eh comments n views oso ma..lazy to talk the same issues that brought here too lor..a bit sian if always talk the same things lor..hehe…anyway according to developer la, the entrance road will b 40ft la, i think should b ok la if 40ft lor…if u want 60ft- 100ft eh entrance road, then hmm..i think only the housing projects at hulu hulu eh locations got lor…hehe…sure not at Song ban kheng eh area la..

i heard from developer la..their show house right now will not everyday open liao, they will only open it during saturday n sunday nia lor..sian oso ma if weekday pun kena open n jaga there, not much ppl at weekday ma..lang ka liao ki jo kang ma..besides, not many units can sell to ppls liao…so everyday open the show house for wat la…haha..

for traffic may congested when hv funeral or wedding function at our neighbour eh taman – betik indah, that kind of functions lama lama sekali la..will not everyday got these kind of function eh la.. which family want wedding or funeral functions everyday eh la..choi !!!! ..hehe…think think wat i said is right or wrong la…hehe.. if wrong pls correct me, if right pls visit show house at weekend lor..haha

if u cannot wait till saturday or sunday liao n wanted to c the show house now…can oso…nah.. follow this link lor – http://www.tahwah.com/image-gallery.asp?pro=OV&t=1
hehe…u can c show house picture at developer web site oso ma..hehe

AhTu, are u real?

@WinnieWowWow
of course la..wat do u think then ? hehe…dun forget we all hv rights to choose want to reveal or not to reveal our identity at here or in the FB lor due to privacy concerns n others concerns ma..hehe….but dun woli on who am i la…. that 1 is not important lor..gathering buyer eh concerns n suggestion n send to developer is most important la…n getting buyers support is important too. la. hehe..i’m 199.761% real buyer la…if i’m not real 1, then why i m always give my comments in this blog lor..i better go to sleep lor if not real…hehe ..if developer doing wrong, i gave my views to them, if developer doing right, i praise them ma…so dun woli on who m i la…haha..

AhTu :
@WinnieWowWow
of course la..wat do u think then ? hehe…dun forget we all hv rights to choose want to reveal or not to reveal our identity at here or in the FB lor due to privacy concerns n others concerns ma..hehe….but dun woli on who am i la…. that 1 is not important lor..gathering buyer eh concerns n suggestion n send to developer is most important la…n getting buyers support is important too. la. hehe..i’m 199.761% real buyer la…if i’m not real 1, then why i m always give my comments in this blog lor..i better go to sleep lor if not real…hehe ..if developer doing wrong, i gave my views to them, if developer doing right, i praise them ma…so dun woli on who m i la…haha..

ah tu, remember you are the future JMC chairman.. without you, JMC will not run smoothly… we need people like you… please give your support to the purchaser club… and you are the boaster for the purchasr club ….. join the meeting this week… we all want your participation… you are not ah gua, don’t you?

@AhTu
getting more and more like a developer’s sales person…LOL

Jerry … i have same thinking too. Not real not real …… hahaha piggy piggy ……..

lost :
@AhTu
people at permatang sactuary also scold me lah … let me tell you the truth now .. I’m new house property investor so, I’m a true & genuine buyer but I won’t hold on the house for long . . I will sell it later. You can blame me (one of the many property investor) for making the house price gone up. This is my job as a property investor. I talk a little bit good about Permatang Sactuary bcos I believe the price will go up bcos IJM makes a lot of rich people getting richer.

Just face it, you are nothing but a daydreamer

AhTu :
@WinnieWowWow
of course la..wat do u think then ? hehe…dun forget we all hv rights to choose want to reveal or not to reveal our identity at here or in the FB lor due to privacy concerns n others concerns ma..hehe….but dun woli on who am i la…. that 1 is not important lor..gathering buyer eh concerns n suggestion n send to developer is most important la…n getting buyers support is important too. la. hehe..i’m 199.761% real buyer la…if i’m not real 1, then why i m always give my comments in this blog lor..i better go to sleep lor if not real…hehe ..if developer doing wrong, i gave my views to them, if developer doing right, i praise them ma…so dun woli on who m i la…haha..

Come on, Osama Bin Laden is dead (if we choose to believe what media said), US is no longer after you anymore

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WinnieWowWow :
AhTu, are u real?

@ AT Tu, I left u a message in FB, Pls respond accordingly. In fact, not only me, there are few members also left messages n awaiting your response..

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You r absolutely right! V hv a choice to keep our privacy n not to reveal our status to others. I do not know about others people but i m definately not curious about who actually u r. BUT, as a matter of respect n for a sake of formality, all of us cant b using our individual nickname to deal with developer, right? Do u think the developers will listen to us if v do not even let them know who v r? Your concerns of privacy has actually been addressed in my message..

@chin

from the beginning i told u all liao ma..i just want to be a good neighbour nia la..i’ll follow all the rules set by developer or JMC lor..hehe..for chairman position..not suit me la..my eyes will become “chair mea” later on when kena hit by chair that throw by residents or developer when they bei song wa later on…..hahaha… but i’ll always support u all la…dun woli la… u all go to do wat u all wanted to do la….as usual, i’ll give my views n answer at here if got ppl doubt on certain stuffs regarding this project la…hehe…

@orange manic
from beginning i not trust FB n not play FB n not monitor FB too lor..soli la..i not c n get ur message there la cause i seldom login to FB la…..pai sei pai sei la…anyhow…i understand ur points too on we should put our real name in a purchaser club la…hehe..but i really dun want to reveal my real name there la…if u think no value to put me in ur purchaser club, i understand too la..hehe..u can take out my nick name there la..i m ok 1 la…hehe..again..i always support wat u all did la..it is really a good move la ! haha….

@WinnieWowWow
halo WowWow, if i m from developer site la, i won’t support u all eh concern n suggestions liao maa…mana got “developer” ka ki tembak ka ki eh….hehe ..how lam liao if like that ma..haha…think think kua wat i said is right or wrong la…hehe…is ok la…no nid to know who m i liao…most of the buyer oso not interested in this topic la…better we talk other topics start from here…if not, a bit sian liao on “who m I = i’m one of ur good neighbour” eh topic la…hehe..

AhTu :
@chin
from the beginning i told u all liao ma..i just want to be a good neighbour nia la..i’ll follow all the rules set by developer or JMC lor..hehe..for chairman position..not suit me la..my eyes will become “chair mea” later on when kena hit by chair that throw by residents or developer when they bei song wa later on…..hahaha… but i’ll always support u all la…dun woli la… u all go to do wat u all wanted to do la….as usual, i’ll give my views n answer at here if got ppl doubt on certain stuffs regarding this project la…hehe…
@orange manic
from beginning i not trust FB n not play FB n not monitor FB too lor..soli la..i not c n get ur message there la cause i seldom login to FB la…..pai sei pai sei la…anyhow…i understand ur points too on we should put our real name in a purchaser club la…hehe..but i really dun want to reveal my real name there la…if u think no value to put me in ur purchaser club, i understand too la..hehe..u can take out my nick name there la..i m ok 1 la…hehe..again..i always support wat u all did la..it is really a good move la ! haha….

ah tu, don’t you know the concept, you give peanut and you get monkey?

Ahyoo!…… why are you all so stubborn lor…… AhTu from the beginning had already said he want to be a good neighbour like me ma……..may be we can ask AhTu to be our future OV JMC adviser lor…. AhTu ok kah…..?

Is there a buyer forum?can you please add me into that?

Let stop taking about AhTu … if he choose not to expose his real name, fine for us …. just the value of commend from him in this forum will be very weak. Let him remain a phantom for us.
Now we all learn what is so call NATO ……

No Action Talk Only ………. no offence.

@V@gmal.my
kam xia kam xia for ur understanding laa….hehe ..advisor la, chairman la, jmc members la…not interested la…i just want to b a good neighbour n njoy life in orange vila la n song song come to this blog to give my views la…life will b more happy if like that ma…hehe…i believe there will b lot of talented ppls in orange vila for those roles la…i believe they can manage veli well our vila la…dun woli la…hehe..

Ccab :Is there a buyer forum?can you please add me into that?

halo Ccab, here is the answer u r looking for la, u can mail to jleong328@gmail.com to join the orange vila eh buyer club la, pls find below on the excerpt from orange manic eh previous comment la: …..hehe

“If u like to meet with a group of sincere real buyers like myself, Winnewow, orange juice, AhTu(minor correction la: i been removed from the club cause of i dun want to reveal my real name and unit bought la..but is ok la….as long as the club is runnign well then ok liao la…hehe)..and many more , Pls email to me at jleong328@gmail.com, indicate your real name n unit number, I will then link u to the OV purchaser club’s FB”

Hai… AhTu, I am from Pg island ,now 3sty house in island is expensive 1 million++,so I had
selected (3 ) 3sty g&g property near to raja uda, D-Link2 , Mandarin Quarter & Palm Villas can you please tell me which one can buy for own stay. my family don’t want to stay in BM so I didn’t choose Orange Villa sorry….

@Derik
halo Derik, u nid to bring ur family jalan jalan at BM areas ma… BM is different with last time liao, i not mean BM town la..BM town a bit chap cause narrow roads there …hehe..u nid to jalan jalan at surrounding of BM areas la…especially jalan jalan at Song ban Kheng road that going to be widen to 4 lanes by our lovely uncle Guan Eng la..haha…the development like orange vila, gemilang permai business center, harmoni residensi, icon city and etc..will make the surrounding property of BM town looks good la in future la, besides, if u come from island using autocity n then using bayu mutiara road n then using Song ban Kheng road, then u will find the propertys location that i mentioned there really near to penang bridge nia la…i m working in island too ma..i know la..haha…one day come to chiat hong here ma, i mean surroudning BM areas la..n u can bring along ur family too..let them c the changes of BM la….if u talk on long long time ago eh BM like my ah kong ah ma eh time, then BM really no good place to stay la that time …but now BM different liao…thing will change when time passing ma…now BM is a good place to stay liao la .. hehe…

talk back to ur questions, if i plan to find a house at raja uda areas la, i will definitely find a new house 1 eh, i dun like 2nd or 3nd n dun know how many hands eh house la…hehe…this is because now 2nd n dun know how many eh house price oso not cheap lor n oso dunno y house owner wanted to sell their house too ma, i scare scare juga la if buy dunno how many eh hands eh house ma..hehe…if the price not cheap then better get new house ma if budget is allow too la..rite? haha…

D-link2 is at mak mandin areas liao, a bit chap lor that mak mandin areas, lot of lorry in n out too at mak mandin industrial eh roads especially working time lor ..sian liao …n the taman can c the TnB n TM eh cables not built underground lor … make the taman bo sui liao la…if i not mistaken, this GnG not having facility like swimming pool n club house too lor, if monthly maintenance fees above rm130, then a bit bo tatt too lor…

mandarin quarter eh location good, near zhe wei yuan eh steamboat shop..hehe…but it location too near the shop lots liao n oso workshop lor…i dun like the residential house too near the shop lot eh lor….hehe…nearby (may b distance around 80m-100m) is good la but if too near (distance around 10m-40m) then no good liao….will b noisy later on n air also not fresh if the shop lots there got lot of motor or car or lorry eh repair shops…i heard their cables also not underground 1 lor..then the taman will b bo sui liao if cables not underground la..besides only 30+ units nia without any facilites there, only got playground nia lor..monthly maintaince fees should b not cheap too with low density of units ma..

palm villa location is good, cables underground n got swimming pool n club house, monthly maintenace fees oso reasonable la, around rm165 ma…management not bad too but the problem is palm villa is an old house liao, if i not mistaken la, first hand price from developer was around rm380k ma..now due to property price all jump sky high including dun know how many hands eh house, it pun up to around rm550k-650k now la…bo tatt lor if buy an old house with that price..better buy orange vila lor if ur family r ok with BM areas la…haha..

for me la, i prefer new house n first hand house from developer lor, i will not buy d-link2, mandarin quarter or palm villas la.. if ask me to choose for raja uda location, i will wait for orange residence by tah wah too…i heard orange residence oso too near to shop lots la..but never mind la..bo hu udang pun ok liao..i will buy the house at the row that not that too near to shop lots lor….haha…

just share share my views to u nia la since u asked me ma..haha..think think kua my views is right or wrong la….but bottom line, lot of things u need to survey n consider when u buy house for own stay or investment la…Location n its surrounding environment n ur budget are the most important point la to consider la…..haha..hope i m helping u here la…hehe..

AhTu,…thanks many many………for your comment & answer…
orange residences located in raja uda near which place…? is it 3sty house g&g and how much….?

@AhTu
pls use more proper english, talk like “Bang Ka Li” or “ah pek”, wasted time to catch the point u wanna deliver.

MeiMei….. I can understand what AhTu said…. there is nothing wrong with his hokkien english ma…..

@Derik
i don’t understand hokkien, i m from ipoh, wanna search of info of this project but seem very hard to understand some purchasers’ english…

Halo MeiMei….if you got any comment or question to ask AhTu…… and can’t understand hokkien english…… AhTu can use proper english to answer your comment…..as I know AhTu english is very good lor…. AHTu…rite..?

AhTu :@WinnieWowWow of course la..wat do u think then ? hehe…dun forget we all hv rights to choose want to reveal or not to reveal our identity at here or in the FB lor due to privacy concerns n others concerns ma..hehe….but dun woli on who am i la…. that 1 is not important lor..gathering buyer eh concerns n suggestion n send to developer is most important la…n getting buyers support is important too. la. hehe..i’m 199.761% real buyer la…if i’m not real 1, then why i m always give my comments in this blog lor..i better go to sleep lor if not real…hehe ..if developer doing wrong, i gave my views to them, if developer doing right, i praise them ma…so dun woli on who m i la…haha..

AhTu, I dont understand why you said FB got no privacy. Yes, the person you meet in FB may not be the real one until you meet him/her in person. Now we have provided ground of meeting and yet you do not want to join……how lam loh liao….

MeiMei…..ooh you are from ipoh…….if you want to know more about OV project it is better to ask AhTu…….I think AhTu can explain it to you clearly in proper english . in here i think most of us is penang people so we use hokken english to comment.

@MeiMei

O….u r from ipoh..ipoh local dialek is cantonese ma n not hokkien lor….cantonese a bit hard for me liao..hehe.. ngo sik ting but ngo mm sik kong lor…hehe…anyway…pai sei pai sei on my hokkien eh englishi la…. u r welcome to orange vila eh blog lor…hehe…if u dun understand my hokkien englishi..is ok too..u can skip my comments n c other ppls eh comments lor…is ok 1 la..as long as the comments can help u to choose the right property for own stay or investment..then ok liao …hehe..

Derik :AhTu,…thanks many many………for your comment & answer…orange residences located in raja uda near which place…? is it 3sty house g&g and how much….?

if i m not mistaken, orange resident(residential) wil b behind the orange avenue(shop lots) that will b developed by tah wah too la at raja uda, i haven’t go to c the site yet so that i not too sure the exact location too lor..anyway u can get the location from penang property talk eh site too la…nah..here lor – https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/10/orange-avenue/

developer just open for register nia la now n not too sure when they plan to develop it la…u can ask developer kua lor if u really interested on raja uda eh area eh housing project la..hehe

@V@gmal.my
hmm..my englishi so so nia la…pai sei pai sei..i still prefer using hokkien english instead of using standard english lor…hehe..

@MeiMei
if u think u cannot understand my hokkien englishi..hehe..then u can just ignore my comments la…i understand 1 la n is ok 1 la….pai sei pai sei if my hokkien englishi bring any inconvenient cause to u la…hehe..

Derik :
AhTu,…thanks many many………for your comment & answer…
orange residences located in raja uda near which place…? is it 3sty house g&g and how much….?

Derik,

for Raja uda vicinity, you might want to consider carissa villa and Tah Wah have a future project somewhere in Bagam Ajam ( I heard ). a part of that, AirMas have some project in Bagan Lalang too…..

Tah Wah has 2 future project, one is orange avenue, near to bajan ajam pasar. The area has been cleared quite some time ago. You won’t miss it when you are in bajan ajam pasar. The location is good but almost surrounded by low cost flat. They also own another piece of land in pantai bersih. No news on when developments will start.

Airmas g&g project in bagan lallang, the residence is semi-d & bangalow. But, very near to HTC, monthly fee is rm300. If you calculate in term of psf, it is only rm0.10 which is very cheap.

For palm villas, the SNP price is 377K for intermediate unit facing swimming pool. But, a lot of buyers bought them ~ 400K as the developer allow their staffs to book the units and then sell. The price is steep now because strata title already out and also new project pricing is very high.

Carissa villa is in jalan bagan lallang. small land size (for intermediate) compared to palm villas. I think built up (nett) almost same as palm villas. Starting price is >600K. Palm Villas should be better choice. larger land size, prime location, better facilities, cheaper monthly fees.

I went to visit orange villa show house, big built up compare to palm villas. It is very spacious, big master rooms (2 big master room), high ceilings, big roof top, 2×2 tiles for whole house (if not mistaken). Personally, I feel palm villas a bit small. It all boil down to location and your preference.

We are going to have the 2nd OV Purchaser Gathering and the date is set as below:

Date: 1st May 2012 (Tuesday), public holiday
Venue: 1st floor of KFC, Juru Autocity
Time: 3.00 PM

All real buyers, u r welcome to join us to meet up with a group of other real buyers to finalise the suggestions discussed on the previous meeting before proceed to next step.

If you like to join the OV purchaser club to find out progess status of discussions / comments from real buyers, please email to jleong328@yahoo.com stated your real name & unit number, You shall be invited to FB.

We see you there!

@RajaUdaKia
ya lor..i agreed with u on your comment especially on when we want to buy a house, “It all boil down to location and your preference” lor..hehe…

a minor correction to ur comments on 2 future project from tah wah at bagan ajam lor, as i know la, tah wah will hv 2 projects there la, they called it orange avenue – is on shop lots while another project is called orange residences – is the 3.5 storey terrace come with roof top garden eh GnG concept lor…i think might be same concept as orange vila la..hehe..the orange residences eh pricing i dun know la..but heard above rm600k for sure la..haha..

@MeiMei
Use Wikimapia to help u find which location you prefer. Then zoom into the housing project of that area.
Also by using the map, you’re able to detect any chicken farms nearby.

@Ah Qua
ya lor..wikimap can help us to c the location lor ..hehe ..but pls take note that the data in the wikimap is outdated 1 lor, sometimes the data shown in the wikimap veli veli old 1 lor…may b 2 yrs back eh data liao lor…the best way to survey the site is go to the site personally n c what shown in the wikimap is correct or not lor…..hehe.. so take note take note on what i said lor when u plan to use wikimap lor…..hehe

Derik,
if you and your family like to stay in raja uda, Palm Villas 3sty g&g rooftop, swimmingpool is the best place in raja uda….. go buy Palm Villas you won’t regret……. now the price rm550k-rm650k is still consider cheap…..you can check the webside: mudah.my, I think 1 or 2 unit only for sales…..you can choose not to believe me for what I said. you can survey first ask the people there in raja uda whether Palm Villas is worth to buy or not….

Hi all genuine ov buyers, we will have another gathering tomorrow (28/4) at KFC first floor , juru autocity, 3 pm. We have so far made e some good progress in sorting out the comments and putting together some constructive suggestion. Come meet future neighbors together, to talk about your idea and suggestion, and discuss further for the interest of buyers, we shall need to act fast to submit the letter to developer, before it is too late. An orange Villa T-shirt will be put on table for you to recognize us.

@ Best, thanks…

@Orange Juice
Hi Orang Juice, is today’s meeting still on? Thought Orang Manic had set on 1 May 2012?

@Grace
Yes , please come over

@orangejuice
u guys still at autocity? i need half hour journey to there. it is 4pm now.

@ Grace, we left around 4.30pm. Grace, please come again on 1st May, more people will be attending.

@Lost
if you are property investor don’t sell your unit now wait till OV completed than sell for good price, or rent it out to foreigner may can get better rental price …..

I have one unit facing swimming pool ( South ) for sale, whoever interested please leave your contact here.

RM590K buy from u …. will you ok? Let u make 30K

Jane, any response ? RM590K?

@PenangHonda
Hi Penang Honda, can you give me your contact number or email ID? We talk offline rather than reveal the information in forum. Besides, my house has a bigger land and the initial launching price is already about 650k. Are you okay with this price?

@PenangHonda
sent your contact to me at email – donkey123@hotmail.my. I may consider selling my unit to you at RM590K.

Sorry lost …. is your pool view? Jane one is pool view …..
I just check you message above, u offer RM514K only ….. kind of crazy price. I dont think ur is pool view. If yes, then we can continue.
Btw ….. do you know the price now?
Some people asking from you and some like u chicken out, i am not sure will u chicken out with me not. We should not empty talk here.

Jane, i roughly know where is you house, i think should be some where at 59 & 60. I did ask before, it faceing other people side view, and the other side also facing old dirty school building. Developer did offer at RM648K-RM20K=RM628K, i also consider long but end up not buying. Non of the facing good, and some more facing school. Eye sore to me.
I only consider if you sell with RM600K only to dispose away (have to take some loss).
Deal?

Hi all Potential Buyer:
Pls read carefully all forum above, by a few buyer of OrangeVilla, i advise you all not to consider this TahWah Developer and also its future Orange’s Project.
Their quality and material really bad and low class. Sell and advertize high end house but their actual gave very bad material. Can say worse then low cost or low end house.
Read above forum, pls, you will see too many complain from buyer already.
Pls do not buy their remainning house. Some more dare to increased price to now RM586K.
Rgds…….. insider story

Bad Material :Hi all Potential Buyer:Pls read carefully all forum above, by a few buyer of OrangeVilla, i advise you all not to consider this TahWah Developer and also its future Orange’s Project.Their quality and material really bad and low class. Sell and advertize high end house but their actual gave very bad material. Can say worse then low cost or low end house.Read above forum, pls, you will see too many complain from buyer already.Pls do not buy their remainning house. Some more dare to increased price to now RM586K.Rgds…….. insider story

ic ….. luckily i read this ……..

‘Jane’ and ‘lost’,
Is this the reason you want to disponse your OrangeVilla house?. Normally if too many want to disponse, it will become buyer market, you should consider to absorve some loss in order to dispose the bad quality house. Then i consider you house if you want to disponse it, with developer price – RM50K …. else, i will not consider this bad quality house. This RM50K will use to do a lot of touch up on the house.

As for me, i really dislike the staircase rail/holder.
How can high end project deliver such low class of material.
Tah Wah really have to reconsider their status of quality if this want to stay in this business.
Avoid other people give a bad name like
<<>>
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I mean
((Bad Quality House = TahWah House))
((Bad Material House = Orange Villa/Residence))

I am going to look at
Harmony Residence and Tropicale Resicence tomorrow.
Really want to compare material offered by them.

Bad Material :Hi all Potential Buyer:Pls read carefully all forum above, by a few buyer of OrangeVilla, i advise you all not to consider this TahWah Developer and also its future Orange’s Project.Their quality and material really bad and low class. Sell and advertize high end house but their actual gave very bad material. Can say worse then low cost or low end house.Read above forum, pls, you will see too many complain from buyer already.Pls do not buy their remainning house. Some more dare to increased price to now RM586K.Rgds…….. insider story

Are you an angry buyer? I am looking for some good bargain, if any one want to dispose the house after compain on the quality, i am ready to buy from you with some RM30-50K lower then developer price.
Feel free to email me at pghonda2012@yahoo.com
Will get back to you soon.

I have tell you all in my previous forum, Orange Villa is not a good reputation developer. Too many, too many, too many, too many people complain d. Included me complain couper of month ago.
Developer/Mr Hong appear to be very stubborn and insist to provide this low class material.
I think TahWah will start this project as their 1st project and also the last project for them.
Name is Bad now, other purchaser like AhTu, Juice, Manic, winni should have listen to me before purchase.
‘Sesal awal ber-ubi, sesal kemudian tak berguna’ …….. ha

PenangHonda & Bad material–> Another competitors came here to sabotaj this project lo.. pls beware !… 😉

Alice –> this is another permatang santuary’s buyer or may be from ijm developer came here to sabotaj this project lo !

Not used you all came here to sabotaj this project as orange villa’s pricing increase again now with limited unit left !! Buyers know who is saying the truth and who is coming here just to sabotaj !!

I dont think that sabotaj, as i can see the quality.
A normal human can see that the stair case rail is totally un-acceptable.
sis, pls refer to earlier forum by AhTu, TanPek, Juice, Winni, Manic. You can realise this is fact. If i buy from purchaser who want to dispose their Ov house, i need to spend at least RM30-40K to repair to a better quality house. Look at other project like DnP, AirMas ….. staircase is look very nice. I like Ov location but of quality too bad, added cost for all purchaser.

By the way, sis, are u developer, if yes, glad u hear this, then pls do improvement?

Developer already agree to change that staircase rail. May be you’re not fully followed and read the previous comments.

After read all this suspect sabotager and developer speaker in this forum.
I should post out the fact or link to show the real quality matter, with supported by photo.
Bad Material, Alice and Penang Honda, can you post other the picture of the so-call Poor Quality of Staircase to the admin to publish here, or you can provide a address link to show the quality of staircase.
I think reader should able to judge who is right or wrong.
If true, developer should need to face the reality of making purchaser angry of not providing good material.
CyberSpace provide a good forum to group all purchaser to push on Developer.
sis, are you a rep from developer?

Really ‘sis’ … this is really good news to me.
But i do not believe until …… we really got inform from developer.
And also developer show us the changes in their show house.
Again, ‘sis’ are you developer ……. why so difficult to answer ‘yes’ ? Are u?

Nope, i m not from developer. But i went to see the show house before, looks good to me except the staircase rail and the building color. The sales rep said they’ll change the rail but she not revealed much more information on the design. Btw, the terrace type B unit price now already going up to 586k? When i visited show house opening week on mid April, the price is RM568,800 only.

To all interest buyer on Orange Villa,
Orange Villa have show purchaser a very bad quality show house and have been told ‘what u see and what you have’ It have invite tremendous complain and pressure from active buyer. Some unknown speaker in this forum told developer will change the stair case holder, but so far purchase do not receive any official reply or information or promise to change the lousy staircast rail. We should only consider to proceed your purchase after they promise to you to change it.
Glad that now days, we can have PenangTalk website to provide good information to all potential buyer.

PenangHonda :Really ‘sis’ … this is really good news to me.But i do not believe until …… we really got inform from developer.And also developer show us the changes in their show house.Again, ‘sis’ are you developer ……. why so difficult to answer ‘yes’ ? Are u?

If you not believe, then you can call developer to check lo !

sis … if you are not developer and not purchaser, then you are over re-act already.
Do you think we are sabotaging ? Or actually telling the truth ?
Go see with you own eye …!
Don’t you see that, developer agreed to chg the staircase rail (yet to confirm yet, pls dont buy) if due to the cycber pressure here?
Pls support us, to get all purchaser right cas be protacted.

Same to you, you can call developer to check if you not believe it !

@PenangHonda
Let talk thru email tomorrow. I will contact you.

Hello sis, looking like many people think u are developer rep in this forum. So far i think Bad Material is buyer who felt being cheated.

@Alice
I’m just telling the truth on what i heard and what i saw during my last visit to show house ! .

Hope it is not late fro TahWah:

Inductry impression on TahWah/OrangeVilla is slowly been shaped and known.
TahWah have use 1 week of show house to spoil thier good name, and
TahWah need to use long period of time to correctly shape back their good brand/name.

Too bad, TahWah have choose to take risk on maximize their profit. Just like ‘Selling BWM with Proton quality of interior quality’ Buyer may felt cheated and regret.
The world is not end for TahWah yet, now the project is just 10-20%, still can really prove they are a really Top Class Developer, that can give a big-bang in thier first project with good name.

Yes, we hope a BIG BANG of good name in this project!
Make whoever buy this project, can be really happy for own stay.

The fact is, most purchase buy for owne stay.
Discount a few 10-20K is not a main factor, buy quality is come first.
Pls make a house that purchaser can move it straight away move it after get the key.
with minimum renovation.

Do not deliver some thing that can make visitor, buyer laugh and joke.
Do not behave like a new player in this industry. Mr Hong is from Tambun Indah, full of experience and he must know what purchaser want.
Dont assume buyer will do major renovation.

Remember, this is your 1st Orange Project, pls do not aim for high profit margin, build your brand name is more important! When you have a good brand, future high margin is posible to you. Not now. When we buy, your sale person is saying ‘TahWah will push on our 1st project, must be good one’

Pls go for quality, we are expecting not only the staircase improvement (but also other long list of item waiting to feedback).

TahWah slogon “” Perfect Living Thru Generation “” remain a big joke to us.

Only the show house already make purchaser feel shame/regret on buying.
Become a laughing stock in this industry.
Pls prove it, pls prove it.

Seem like start to have people want to dispose the house below seveloper price already.
Jane, what price you want to sell for a pool view unit, with extra land?

@sis
i’m not sure if you are from the developer but it’s useless to comment too much in this forum. obviously ‘bad material’ is trying to bad mouth and sabo this project. if you read my comment earlier, i bought many houses and i often go to property exibition. lately there’s a developer who is so unprofessional, they are the direct competitor who has a project in the vicinity of orange villa, the sales rep can even say bad things about their rival to their potential buyer….that’s very unethical. that’s why i am very sure ‘bad mouth….oops bad material’ is not a genuine buyer. maybe i’m old enough to understand the house buying process, how can a buyer sell before the house is completed…dont bull shit in this forum please. and people who is really lost like ‘lost’ who
keep saying that he wants to dispose his unit, how to do that and the funny part is he claimed he’s an investor.

further to my earlier post, what i meant is the other developer who is unprofessional, say bad things about their rival project, orange villa. they didnt know that i’m one of the orange villa buyer and tried to persuade me to buy from their project and said about the orange villa’s bad quality this and that. genuine buyers has eyes to see and has wisdom to judge and so is the follower of this forum. only the wise can distinguish between the genuine and sabotager. never just listen…go see for yourself and do your survey. since there are so many showhouses nowadays, go check them out and compare their quality, prices and location.

actually grandfather is very free today, my grandchildren are out for shopping so i have time to comment here. my advice to those who are considering to buy, do not seek advise from the commentor of this forum….now it’s left with sabotager so you wont get a true advice. to me orange villa is a good project, i like the location and it’s concept. i went to see palm villas before buying orange villa and i really like the concept as i can retire happily here while seeing my grandchildren enjoying themselves within the taman while i stroll along the landscaped walkway at the backyard with my wife. life will be healthier with recreational facilities like swimming pool, gym and sauna but maybe gym will not be suitable for me, i’m looking forward to the completion of orange villa.

They acquired the land at bagam ajam with a fake “garant”….in court case now…..rugi a lot i guess….

I agreed with Grandfather. This blog is now left with all sabotaj from “investor” & competitors. All the real purchasers have enrolled with the Purchaser Association. They take action and feedback the real concern to the developer. Believe me, they are the most efficient buyer association I heard. Grandfather, are u joining ?

@GetLost2
I don’t think anybody here is trying to sabotaj OV project. What they said is a fact. Look at other property forum, there are no such comments as bad OV. 11/May, there is another show house for Gated and Guarded at Bukit Mertajam – Hill Park. Let’s go and see, then we can compare Hill Park quality versus OV quality. Some many show houses that I have seen, I think OV is the worst —

I like to see show house. But I won’t buy a property because of show house. Developer can do a good job on the show house for marketing purpose only. There are a lot of factors to consider before investing.

GetLost2 :I like to see show house. But I won’t buy a property because of show house. Developer can do a good job on the show house for marketing purpose only. There are a lot of factors to consider before investing.

Yes. Most of the concern of the people here is only focusing on the quality of show house. I bought a unit near to OV from a well-know developer. Project almost complete. Nice show house but the house quality also “so so” only.

Wait and see what the developer deliver to you and don’t judge from the show house.

GetLost2 :I like to see show house. But I won’t buy a property because of show house. Developer can do a good job on the show house for marketing purpose only. There are a lot of factors to consider before investing.

Yes. Most of the concern of the people here is only focusing on the quality of show house. I bought a unit near to OV from a well-know developer. Project almost complete. Nice show house but the house quality also “so so” only.

Wait and see what the developer deliver to you and don’t judge from the show house.

Sorry, I’m MsLim. 1st time write. Thought my 1st post have error.

@MsLim
you just imagine – your show is nice but when deliver is only so so. OV show is bad — you can imagine what you will get when the unit is ready …

Shame to call you Grandfather …….

I never say i have buy some the house from some one.
We have to talk fact ….. i am not commenting in overall.
Staircase rail is the worse …… of all developer.
Now some said developer is desided to chg, but how to verify it?
I am real buyer …. no need to say more ….. leave it to u if you dont trust.
I hope developer could make the house to be more live-able.
And not required purchaser to spend RM200K to 300K for reno.
This is GnG, developer need to know how to plan for GnG and not encourage buyer to do extensive renovation. Cannot do do much cement or dirty reno.
Come with Plaster ceiling & air con piping.
NOT ONLY the staircase holder.

A normal real buyer will not argue with me or accuse me as sabotager. Am i? I am telling u all the fact. We need to get the key and move it anytime.
That is call high end, that is call ‘Perfect Living thru Generation’.

I wondering why you are here to ask reader to accept such a bad quality, you appear to be not at Purchaser Side. You are from Developer side.

A real buyer will ask for more and better delivery, and you so-call ‘Grandfather’ is totally out of logic. Shame, shame an old man like u.

I personally dont trust ‘Lost’ also (as i am real buyer), because he offer OV with RM518K …. a real joke to all.
Unless he really fed up with OV and want to suffer lost to let go OV.

Lost, are you?

Pls do not pursuit buyer to accept the un-reno show house quality.
Developer side it the culplit.
I would say, Tah Wah is very lucky/unlucky to have such a good/active/demending/vocal type of purchaser.

Build House is like Cook Food !

Chef/cook should listen feedback from customer/diner and improved on the cooking quality
Developer should listen feedback from buyer and improve base on feedback & market demend

Chef/Restaurant business are really base on testimony.
Developer success also base on testimony.

That is why IJM, BSG, have a very good sale each time the soft launch … because they can be trust.
New player like TahWah …. even need market testimony.
Or else, GameOver ….

I agreed with Bad Material! I am real buyer, we talk facts here. I m not here to sabotag and purposely talk bad about the OV. But take a look of the quality and the way how the showhouse is done. Tah Wah Boss n management, unless you just want to stay here for a short term, imagine the damage created for your company image n brand name, u r not going to get anywhere if no improvement is done!

@ AhTu

Tah Wah has 2 pieces of land in Bajan Ajam and another one in Pantai Bersih. The 2 pieces land will be developed together (consider as 1 project). That’s why I said they have 2 additional project.

There is a lot of negative comment on this project. No one seems to mention this project has underground cabling and interlocking road.

Hi all, good day,
I am from OV purchacer club #7 members. Look like this site is flood with too many poor comment. My personal view is Bad Material if talking fact here, we should go and talk a look to judge our self. For me, i hope developer will listen to all comment in this forum and do improvement. If the attitude of ‘TahWah is already good enough’ remain in developer mind and ignore voice from purchaser club, then the name will spread very fast. Good or Bad.
Start from today onward, real buyer will come back and comment and discuss matter in Penang Properties Talk forum… so far we can see angry buyer is more than happy buyer.

GetLost2 :I agreed with Grandfather. This blog is now left with all sabotaj from “investor” & competitors. All the real purchasers have enrolled with the Purchaser Association. They take action and feedback the real concern to the developer. Believe me, they are the most efficient buyer association I heard. Grandfather, are u joining ?

I finally joint the OV Purchaser Club & attended the meeting today. My opinion is… if you are a real buyer, u should join the club, coz all real buyers in the group are taking a correct approach to get things moving & giving constructive comments. All group members are not gathered to express the anger or disappointment, instead, whatever comments are also followed by action. So, no point talk talk show anger, if u want the developer listen to us, OV purchaser club is a good platform for all of us – real buyers to voice up!

MsLim :

GetLost2 :I like to see show house. But I won’t buy a property because of show house. Developer can do a good job on the show house for marketing purpose only. There are a lot of factors to consider before investing.

Yes. Most of the concern of the people here is only focusing on the quality of show house. I bought a unit near to OV from a well-know developer. Project almost complete. Nice show house but the house quality also “so so” only.
Wait and see what the developer deliver to you and don’t judge from the show house.

Ms Lim, It will be too late if wait until the developer deliver the complete unit to us coz nothing can be done by then! Have u ever wondering what is the purpose of show house? I think I dont need to say much lah! Can you imagine, if the developer cannot even do a good job for the show house, what more can you expect?

Some of u said in this blog that the developer has agreed to change the staircase railing, provide the 3 feet hedging plant as divider, how truth this is? As a responsible developer who care for their brand nam, they should send a letter to inform all buyer officially about this, but, as a buyer, have you ever received any letter from Tah Wah to inform us about this? They should have heard about lots and lots of complaints ever since the showhouse is launched, have they sent any letter to buyers to give us assurance? what have they done so far? Ask yourself…absolutely nothing!!

They are taking our complaints lightly!!@ This is definately not a good sign! either they are over confidence about their quality n assume future buyers are dumb enough continue eye on Tah Wah projects, or they mainly go for a time sale of OV project , that is it, make enough good money then leave! Otherwise, they simply under estimated us as a real buyers!

Generally, I have seen established developers are very prudent about the customers complaints, developers will take a proactive approach to handle complaints. This is the first time in my life to see developer like Tah Wah – handle complaints in is matter! Datuk, think carefully,, think about the implications and consequences, dont wait until the issue burst out of hand, try do something when it is still under control..It is better to attend, resolve it fast then sorry later…your company will face a huge crisis, it will costs you more then you can ever imagine later..the price to pay is certainly not worth it, as a smart business men like you..U should get your staff to write an official letter to inform all buyers about the rectified work that you decided to do and pacify the buyers!

Finally met up with the real buyers today, happy to see my future neighbors, we have the same thought, which is to make Orange Villa a nice and beautiful place to stay for long..

Yes ….. very good, i start to see real purchaser is coming back.
Here, would like to urge, who are real buyer, pls join our OV Purchacer Club.
We have peoples who are very commited to make this group work.
We have good IT people also could have to manage those information stuff.
We also have experience properties management people is the club to provide good advice.
All i can see is the anger in them are driving them to move toward feedback to TahWah.
(after looking at the un-renovated show house, such a lousy house).
We are gather a long list of buyer name list now, we have already obtained a big number of purchaser support. If you have not join us, pls join so that your unit do not left out.

We still want to work with TahWah, but it will depend on the attitude show but Mr Hong and other senior syuff like Mr Cheong and Miss Lee, Cath.
The aim of the club is to make Orange Villa a very good place and popular GnG in Bw and Bm area.

Mr. upsad! I have a same feeling like you. I have been following the forum and read about all complaints so far, but until now have yet to receive any letters from developer to inform us about the staircase railing and Hedging plant divider which will be improved like what Ah Tu and Kelvin have mentioned in this forum.

Developer should at least write us a letter to let us know the status, but I am surprised with Tah Wah’s attitude to try to ignore all complaints stated in this forum. I think we have given sufficient time for Tah wah to revert to us loh…

OV purchaser club, can you please add me to the group, my email is maxklee@yahoo.com.

Out of control already !
I doubt potential buyer of OV, after read all the comment above, will they proceed with the purchase? Kind of sad if my future house need me to spend another RM200K for renovation.

Yes! All real buyers are coming back to this blog. We had a meeting today and all members felt that we should come back to this blog to state our comments as a genuine purchaser, we hope that all of us can extend a little efforts together to make OV a good project that can be proud of, also, to deter those “unreal” buyers to kacau kacau in this blog that damage the value of OV. All members in OV club certainly hope that the value of OV is still sustainable after much unfavorable comments. We still care very much about the value of OV as we wanted to see appreciation value in the future, So, I hope Tah Wah group takes pro-active approach to handle complaints.

Angry Bird, just sent you an email, please check! I do agree with you, Tah Wah should quickly send letters to pacify the buyers instead of taking chance waiting for us to go to them..

All buyers, if u have yet to join the club, come join us as your participation will definately makes the OV a “proud of” neighbourhood. We need all buyers to be co-operative to highlight our concern to the developer together & be a good testimony for orange villa in the near future!!

Fully support OrangeManic …. we need a constructive win-win situation.
We do not want to damage the relation with TahWah also.
Unfortunetely, we have still yet to receive any news from TahWah to rectify the quality issue. The bag is on developer court now, the sentiment of purchaser now is getting hotter not. Need to clear our doubt.
Fyi …. i just join the OV Purchaser Club also today. Finally we meet each other and we believe we all can play a very influensive role in bring up Orange Villa good name, quality and also defend all purchaser right here.
Pls join in with provide your email address, so that you will did not miss the boat.

Greeting, just read the site …. Penang Properties Talk is really a good website, could provide a very good plat form for all purchaser to voice and group up to defend their own right.
I think Orange Villa have a very good team of purchaser and viewing to take lead to liase with Developer.
Yes, serious feednack have to do now, while the house have not build up yet.
You are can consider if the nouse really not good in quality, can ask lawyer to write in not to release the final 5% payment to developer. Of couse, you all can go to their future TahWah project or Mr Hong Project, to bring up you pass disappointed expereince with TahWah/Mr Hong. Then all people will black list this developer.
Haha, good luck u all … just my 2 sen

Of cos this good purchaser could by you future buyer also. But if then are not happy, they could be you difficult buyer.
TahWah, better you do something.

sis :Developer already agree to change that staircase rail. May be you’re not fully followed and read the previous comments.

Sis, how I wish you are from the Tah Wah management side, If you really are…I would like to suggest to you that pls get your management to send a letter to all buyers officially to inform us about this good news, and I can assure you that most buyers will be very happy and regain confidence about the developer instead of bad perception that most people are having now. Please get the management to handle the complaints carefully while it has not blown out of hand. Tah Wah Group management, DO NOT wait till a stage where you need to implement a Crisis Management Exercise in your company when you still have an opportunity to resolve it amicably..we like to work with you to make a “proud of” neighbourhood.

@RajaUdaKia

ic…kamxia for the info ..hehe..

@orange manic

I’m not from Tah Wah’s mgmt side lo…if you all are not a sabotager, then why you all shooting developer at here and not raising you all’s concern at the Orange Villa’s purchaser club FaceBook ? funny lo…

fight until like this, why need to suffer in buying properties? if not satisfied and not happy then don’t buy….happy and satisfied and buy lor….meaningless la

@sis

my SILLY sis, firstly, as a genuine buyer, what benefits do we get to sabotage the developer? Please think about it! It can only create an adverse impact on the OV project which absolutely do us no justice. I m neither a competitor nor property agent, I have no interest to sabotage any parties. I just talk facts and excercise the rights as a buyer hoping that the developer will look into our concerns. Your comments to said that we are shooting the developer is such a silly and non-sensible statement !! Secondly, let me correct you..this forum is meant for us to raise impartial comments, perspectives n view points, if comments are voiced up based on facts, what different does it make to say it over here or in FB? Do u mean to tell me that if we express our concerns in the FB, the developer will pay more attention to address the buyers’ concerns? Don’t simply make emotional comments n it will only make things worst! AS I always stressed that, we want to see Tah Wah Group to be the main player in the industry coz we wanna support the developer. Give us a chance to take pride of you – Tah Wah Group, the OV project !

@ Bad Material

you sounded very pathetic, no money to do the plastering and aircond piping after buying and now trying to make the developer look bad? hopefully you are not my direct neighbour and you even call yourself demanding? oh god, demanding means you know that you are being unreasonable and asking for something that is beyond what is being promised? haih….let me just stop here and save my energy, an old man does not have much stamina but only trying to make you realise that you sounded like this is your first purchase.

@orange manic

my little manic, i read the previous comments from the real buyers on the objective to setup Orange Villa’s purchaser club, one of it is to raise the concerns if have through the purchaser club’s FB to developer, and not in this blog. But looks like this was deviated from the original objective on setting up the club now.

if you guys still raise your concerns at this site, then i can tell is that actually you guys are giving the opps and open the backdoor for sabotager/competitor to continue sabotaj this project ;). Think about it if you’re smart buyers ! 😉

Good luck !

@jerry
They fight like this is because what the developer promised to give is not materialized-Quality. The buyers who are not satisfied here are those who bought the unit long before the show house ready for viewing. Hope you would understand the situation. Should the buyers have seen the show house, I believe quite a number would not purchase it and might not have feeling being CHEATED.

Hi all, winnie here,
Pls dont question Orangemanic integrity, he is real and 100% a real buyer as like my self winnie. Grandfather, pls join us to urge developer to improve quality. We have meet up many many time and in fact meeting many many more buyer.
We are here actually is to help Orange Villa, not to hurt them.

Hey all ….. if you are really think positive, we actually helping Orange Villa doing QA Engineer job … hahaha …….. their QA Engineer actually can just sit in this web site and copy our infor and do a good report and improvement to satisfy all purchaser …..
Grandfather …. pls join us, if not, just sit back silently support us. End of day, it will benefit you as well.

@sis
Hi, sis. nowadays the buyers are really smarter than the old times. Buyers would not simply believe anybody’s comments but will use their own eyes to judge. Good and bad the buyers have their own judgement by seeing the show house (since it is ready now). The purchasers who are making comments here basically are feeling cheated by the management of TW. Before buying, quality are assured 100%.+

sis ….. i was attending the purchaser club and supprising, we can see the powerful of the Penang Properties Talk forum. A lot of people attn and have given name to join Purchaser Club, it going to be powerful and have good representing all buyer.
No joke to you, no joke to TahWah.
I doubt TahWah still ignore us and yet to give response. Are they really ready to ‘gulong tikar’?

You all should start everyday, go to TahWah sale office start bombard them.
From 1st purchaser then schedule every day 1 or 2 purchaser everyday go to TahWah office at Jalan Kampung Gajah to make noice and shout at them.
If not ask for re-fund deposit or stop paying the following sum of money.
Or you guy should start to write into email and circulate to entire FTZ or high tech park to screw TahWah. You are have enuf gentleman already, until today TahWah still not response to anyone of us yet.

@nick

Yup, the buyers are smarter nowaday, but the ways you guys commented under this blog will more or less impacting the potential buyer’s decision especially the fresh buyers just entered the BM’s property market. They’ll be scare away by you guys on this project i believe :).

From the writing, i noticed that same person has using multiple nicknames to give comment here. If you read carefully the contents and also the writing styles, then you will sure know which nicknames are came from same person. Only blind person will not awared on this ! 😉

Best Wishes !

I wondering whether Dato Hong read all above comment or not.
If i am him, i will heart pain, Orange Villa become a laughing stock to all people in the industry.
Tambun Indah will laugh at their ex-partner.
AirMas will have a relief that their compatitor fall apart.
Oriental Max will feel glad to hear all this bad comment, and business fall back to them, cheaper for Oriental Max.
IJM not even care about Orange Villa as their Permating Santuary have it own supporter. They are cash deep.

My opinion for TahWah is, to immediate write improvement item to all purchaser (in detail) with picture to show the improve quality !!
I confident the next day, all purchaser will feel good and come back with a big tumb up for TahWah, and further bring back TahWah to its original track as a highend GnG.
Then fullfill their slogan of ….. Perfect Living throught generations …..
Or else better remane it as …. Lousy Living on current generation …..
Tutup Kedai ….. the name of Orange and Uncle Hong ……

@Kenny

Did you all submit your concerns to Tah Wah yet? Yes or No?

if the answer is “Yes”, what is Tah Wah’s reponses to your concern’s letter? Personally i don’t believe developer will ignore buyer’s concerns or pertition letter.

if the answer is “No”, then you guys are complaining in a wrong path and not a smart buyers ! 😉

sis :@Kenny
Did you all submit your concerns to Tah Wah yet? Yes or No?
if the answer is “Yes”, what is Tah Wah’s reponses to your concern’s letter? Personally i don’t believe developer will ignore buyer’s concerns or pertition letter.
if the answer is “No”, then you guys are complaining in a wrong path and not a smart buyers !

sis …………….. i have given my name and ye, most nick name above who felt angry and pees of are real buyer. My name of kenny is just one of them. The group is bigger and bigger now and this properties talk blog really help. I think u are developer proxy, pls help us to feedback to developer.
You can see the bombard is continue for many days and does not look like stop, everyday new name will appear. It will continue like that for dont know how long. Until they improve.

@Kenny

I’m not the developer proxy. I’m just a buzy body . Since you’re not answered my question, i believe you all are not submitting any letters to Tah Wah yet. if my guess is true, then the ways you guys acts here are not professional and mature enough ! “Shouting” here is not the right ways and cannot solve the concern as well. If you’re planning to get developer’s attention by using this way, i believe it will not help as well. In fact, looks like to me you guys are planning to sabotaj this project more than helping it. Funny

Lastly, you guys really deviated the purchaser club’s initial objective. Good night ! 😉

@sis
What to be afraid of if the show house is of good quality? If you are worry that we might scare away the potential buyers, what is the developer’s next course of action? Since you are insisted that you are busy body and not buyer, how could you understand our feeling? We use our hard earn money to buy. This is not 5000, it is more than half million.

The main concern here is TW failed to deliver what he had promised us. If TW agree and possible I want to get my money back without any loss. Then , end of story. I can go and buy other property.

sis :
@Kenny
Did you all submit your concerns to Tah Wah yet? Yes or No?
if the answer is “Yes”, what is Tah Wah’s reponses to your concern’s letter? Personally i don’t believe developer will ignore buyer’s concerns or pertition letter.
if the answer is “No”, then you guys are complaining in a wrong path and not a smart buyers !
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sis, a good developer should not wait for the angry buyers to go to him, then only take action. Taking a passive role is not the way. Where got developer wait for the complaints only response to it wan? pre-amptive action is the way to go lah, sis.! Whether OV has submitted the petition letter becomes secondary, the main issue is whether developer see the influx of complaints n the need to respond to it quick eenough oe not.

Sis, good luck to u if u work for the developer or if u r one of the shareholder, try look at how others developers run their business..

@sis

If the TW afraid of scare away the potential buyers, i dont think so lah,,they r still so calm and chosse not to do anything,, so why r u so busybody to worry for them?

i also want to get back my money if TahWah agreed !!

Adoouuiiii ! So bad meh this Orange Villa, feel lucky read this web earlier before i paste my booking.
Sorry, better get my money else where.

Developer have to give a good delivery, and always need to treat customer come first.
And not choose to ignore purchaser.
Good luck OrangeVilla buyer.

AliceIce :
Adoouuiiii ! So bad meh this Orange Villa, feel lucky read this web earlier before i paste my booking.
Sorry, better get my money else where.
Developer have to give a good delivery, and always need to treat customer come first.
And not choose to ignore purchaser.
Good luck OrangeVilla buyer.

i believe TW will get the input from the purchaser so they get to know what buyers’ are expecting. please give them time.
if you don’t like the project, please spend your money wisely and find the one that meeting your expectation.

Remember, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.

@mr.upsad, @NickyButt, @Bad Material, @nick, @angrybird,

I guess the above nicknames are came from same blogger 😉 , i gathered it together at here so that it is easy for me to just reply once.

I’m not worry for developer, just worry on the majority of the buyer’s feeling if they know minority buyers, may be less than five buyers are skrewing up their taman in this blog. How will be the majority of buyer’s feeling lo..?

I believe the real competiors/sabotager of Orange Villa will be very happy to see you all that claimed you all are the genuine buyers in this blog are in the process opening up your future taman’s “backdoor” for them to continue creating bad images and shooting on this project. At the end, we’ll see “lost-lost” situation between genuine buyers and developer in this project, not “win-win” anymore!

Do you think worthwhile to do it here rather than in FB? Do you think it is fair enough to majority of the buyers on your comments? Do you think it is fair enough to critic developer at here not even submit any petition/concern letter to them ?

Go ahead if you think worthwhile to do it here rather than in FB !

Best Wishes !

@sis,

I think as a buyer i have right to voice out my dissatisfaction here. This is my personal comment. I wonder why a busy body like you is trying to stop buyers to put up the comments here!!

@nick
May be you’re one from the competitor site lah…not a real buyer..if not why not join buyer club and discuss there loh.

i agreed with sis.

Bad Material commented that Tat Wah is showing a very bad quality of show unit…so which part is bad actually? I have been viewing the show unit at least twice and I didn’t see any wrong with it except the staircase. And the pretty sale exec told me they will change the staircase as a lot of buyers do not like it. Well, if you guys want the black and white from Tat Wah, why not call them up and check with them if they are going to send out an official letter to address this change beside hoo-ha in this forum.

@nick,

Everyone can claims themselves as a genuine buyer here including competitors and sabotager. No one know your real identity when you are using a nick name or multiples nick name to comment here. You no need to responsible on what you’re saying when you are using nickname to comment here. So same as you, i also can claim myself as a OV buyer, who know i’m real buyer or not. Then I started shooting this project in order to create negative views to people on the project for the hope that the potential buyers will take consideration on the housing project that i bought(of cource not OV la..)…The truth is i’m one of the buyer of permatang santuary and not OV !…hahahahaha…

@nick,

Everyone can claims themselves as a genuine buyer here including competitors and sabotager. No one know your real identity when you are using a nick name or multiples nick name to comment here. You no need to responsible on what you’re saying when you are using nickname to comment here. So same as you, i also can claim myself as a OV buyer, who know i’m real buyer or not. Then I started shooting this project in order to create negative views to people on the project for the hope that the potential buyers will take consideration on the housing project that i bought(of cource not OV la..)…The truth is i’m one of the buyer of permatang santuary and not OV !…hahahahaha…

J@ckal :Bad Material commented that Tat Wah is showing a very bad quality of show unit…so which part is bad actually? I have been viewing the show unit at least twice and I didn’t see any wrong with it except the staircase. And the pretty sale exec told me they will change the staircase as a lot of buyers do not like it. Well, if you guys want the black and white from Tat Wah, why not call them up and check with them if they are going to send out an official letter to address this change beside hoo-ha in this forum.

halo J@ckal, i 120.99% support lu eh comment lor …hehe..good 1 la…

for those who like to hoo n ha in this forum:

hoo n ha in this forum cho mik ni….waste lu eh energy nia la ..unless u r from competitor side la, then may b ur hoo n ha will scare few not smarter buyers to not buy this project lor and buy lu eh project lor..haha….if u r real buyer la, u can join the orange vila eh purchaser club ma, then u can go hoo n ha there lor if u want to give ur concerns n suggestions n views to developer la..hoo n ha there more offcial ma…better wat!..hehe

as i said, if the developer allows me to cancel the purchase and absorb the incurred cost, then i do not need to hoo ha here lo! if you dare, then agree ma. by then you will know who is the genuine buyer.

WoooW! sis, u r so busy body now worry for the majority of the buyer, not worried for the Developer pula! Aiyo! you seems missing the point loh. if we dont reveal the facts and mainly talk something good about the qualit when it is not, it will even not fair to the potential buyers. Focus to improve the quality, look into ownself, don’t be so defensvie when you take the comments! the buyers are not dumb, they are not going to invest in any property when they see a lot of “like” in the blog lah. Instead of u being so busybody to speak on behalf of developer or majority buyers n tried guesting who is real not not real buyers, please look at the showhouse, put yourself into the buyers’ shoe.. how would u feel if u see the aircon piping running on the ceiling..stair handrailing…..showhouse looks like a low cost house, how could an half a million house justified? ? Do u know what is business Ethic?

Do u think if we praise the project telling something not truth will make potential buyers to consider this project meh? If it is the case, then good luck to the developer loh, coz there will even attract more disappointments from the potential buyers after they visited the showhouse! Can you imagine, when the potential buyers read the good comments from this blogs n after seeing the showhouse, It sucks! The damaging is even far greater that you can ever imagine! Do u see the point?

It is really not the issue on whether to raise the concerns over here or FB, The showhouse, the quality tells it all ! Developer is trying to rush the showhouse within 2 weeks time to launch it without looking into the details n quality…this is the most harmful things done to the company! I am actually standing on the developer’s side n support them fully, that is why I really wanted to see TAH Wah improve and I can tell people loundly that I live in OV that built by the trusted n realiable famous developer, just like if I live in the house built by S.P Setia / Mah Seng / IJM / Gamuda / IOI group /E&O / Simedarby / IOI..that give us confidence.

I made my decision to buy OV bcos it meets my selection criteria.
I read all the comments in PPT about my future home, good and bad.
I join the purchase club bcos I want developer to take note of my concern and I hate people just talk without action.

I don’t represent majority but I’m probably part of silent buyers. As simple as that.

Well said, BuyerAlso. U’ve written what I want to say.

@mr. upsad

If like what you said it is really not an issues on whether to raise the concerns over here or FB, then what is the purpose setting up the purchaser club in FB initially? If you’re one of the member in purchaser club, then you should raise your concern there so that the member in the club will compile your concerns and send to developer. Unless you’re yet to join and not trust purchase club’s capability….or you think not many OV buyers joining the purchaser club and the club can’t fight for your requirement…you said you’re the genuine buyer here, who will trust you !! like the @useyourbrainla said, everyone can claims they’re genuine buyers here and starting to give good/bad comments to this project..funny lo

I went to see the show house, looks good to me except the building color, staircase with its rail. workmanship and quality better than other housing projects !

@sis

A good developer will never want to take chance to allow petition letter to be channeled to them to resolve complaints. instead, an experienced developer will want to take control of the situation to act pro-actively to rectify the issue as quick as possible! though I m not sure if anyone have submitted petition letter. But I thought it is so silly for you to keep talking about the petition letter, if I were the developer, I would rather do a little bit more to make sure the project turns out well. The GDV (gross developement value) of OV phase 1 probably is in a range of RM80million – RM85million, how about the OV phase 2 plus the OV residence which is believed to have even higher GDV, why would the developer wanna put the future project which has the higher GDV at risk, knowing that this maiden OV phase 1 project is such an important testimony for the company? as the supporter of TW group, I really don’t understand the logic behind unless the board of directors are only wanted to see short-term gain? with the RM85million GDV, the profit margin would not take the company to greater height, it is only the future mix development project (residential & commercial project) contribute for a beautiful profit!

Really, The 1st maiden project is best used for creating the good name n reputation. The developer acquired such a strategic location land but do not make use of it to the maximum to create awareness of Orange Villa Brand, I feel so sad for TW. Tah Wah group, U can do even better than this and can go very far if you seriously building a good brand name for ORANGE!

This is not about sabotage, talking bad about the developer, (I m not as busy body as someone n wasting my time if nothing concerns me) this is about putting a high alert to remind the developer…IT IS TIME TO REALLY DO SOMETHING THAT U R SUPPOSED TO DO N KNOW HOW N WHAT TO DO! I will be the first one to thumb up to the developer eventually if they can make the OV a great project !