rersonally i dislike black … if dirty also cannot see, bad for health ……

@hybr1d3d

u mean exterior color? look like to me almost painted liao..if like wat u said, then hope that we wil get nice n bright color lor….hehe

@manutd

@AhTu

what you said is correct…… hope the developer won’t change the color, the original color look special……..

AhTu …….if white color it easy to get dirty lor……..

Black color also attract mosquitoes…

if got mosquitoes window and door can install mosquitoes net ma……

@V@gmal.my

haha..u r right too…let c what developer action on this first as this is their first project ma….i believe datuk Hong oso very kan cheong on his first project la….if he first project looks so so nia to most of the ppl that come to visit show house..then ………hmmm…

Datuk Hong did lot of housing projects liao during his tenure in tambun indah ma….if he said ok n like this “sipecial” eh color…then ok lor…bo pien lor..we nid to accept too..no matter it is in whole white or whole khakis or whole orange or whole black or whole grey brown or cause he is the developer’s BOSS ma……….haha…

I think our discussions here have become NATO. We have a lot of good ideas, put forward, discussed, wanted to take action, but no actions and in the end, it is up to developer’s choice.
I guess at least one from this discussion group is from developer office.

@OVian
Ah OVian ah, my ingglisi very lauzi..lah….wat is NATO ?

No Action Talk Only 😀

@haha

talk better than no talk ma..hehe.. at least a talk can make developer know the buyer’s concerns lor n they might take a look on the concerns raised lor…

no talk n sit diam diam there even c the concerns equal to buyer will get zero improvement from developer lor cause developer pun not awared on the buyer’s concerns ma, then how they can make the improvement le ?……haha..

for the action..hmm..better wait till final show house ready for viewing first then balu eh comment liao…hehe

anyone know when will be the unit ready for viewing ? This week?

@chin
heard that will b on mid of this month around 14-Apr if show house can completed b4 that date lor.. if they cannot finished it b4 that date then it will b on the date that u wrote in ur previous comments lor…hehe..

As per Katherine, the show houses should be finished by 21/4. There shall be an invitation from Tah Wah to all buyers to come to the show houses.
During the time, remember to raise all our concerns to the developers.
To prove that we are not NATO, can somebody summarises all our concerns in a petition and whoever agree to the points shall then sign on that petition. Ah Tu, our chairman, can then hand over to Dato’ Hong…..
All together, we can make thing happen. Cheers.

The show room that you guys talking here is refer to the show room with renovation or plain show room? Is the toilet’s tiles is plain show room in dark color as well?

We should set a time, during the show house open days time, we all attn to the show house. Give a greet to Mr Hong and staff, and gentlely feedback our input to him.
Do remember, we need to do in a nice way.
Btw, all of us after this need know real name d, ahtu, juice, manic, grace, ovian …wowwow … all have to show out and no more hiding behind this fake name d…… are we ready?

If you all keep talk here and expect AhTu to act, then to me we are only talk only.
How many of you attn last Sunday 4pm? I know Juice and i only, who else? Fly kite ?

@Grace

i’m referred to plain show room or some called it show unit lor..hehe ..ya..front site eh bathrooms are in black color tile while back site eh bathrooms are in grey brown color la…hehe

@WinnieWowWow
bingo !!! wowwow pointed out the good points here laa…dun wait for me to act…u guys n girls can act too…gogo ..this is true 1 ..haha

@AhTu
Eeee, sian lor….why in dark color for toilet’s color? Can this still be changed?

Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later

Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7.

Please use above check list to continue

hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
Please use above check list to continue

@Grace

may b developer eh designer like am am eh color lor….they said this is call classy..hmmm…personally i oso dun like dark color eh tile lor…if lot of buyer raised the same concerns, then i thnk possibility is higher for develope to change lor…but i think it is good to c the final looks during the show house opening time..may b final looks is ok who know le….rite? if c the final looks liao u still not like it, then u can raise ur concern to developer and c what they say lor…hehe..

good laa..look likes u all starting compile liao…good move ! n u guys eh englishi better than me cher cher…hehe

@hybr1d3d
All black tiles will make the bathroom very dark, even daytime with sunlight from window you still have to switch on the light. Some more, practically if we stand in front of mirror inside toilet to comb hair, will not be able to differentiate black hair and black tiles in the background. I have seen my friend house house with all black tiles design, once with white toilet wares and chrome fittings installed it looks contrast, actually not bad to see, but to me it is bad for practical reasons..

I guess there is only one lighting point provided for each toilet, it could be better if we can ask developer to install one extra lighting point above the toilet basin & mirror, you can your face very clear with the lighting there, I don’t mind if have to pay extra for that as this can avoid hacking the toilet wall tiles…

once we break a tile we might not be able to find the same one to replace..even same manufacturer and same tile model, if it is in different batch there will be some slight differences, color tone, pattern, etc. it will be obvious and stand out if we just replace a few pieces …

quick googling on bathroom filled with black tile wall….hmmm..looks sui and not bad juga lor..hehe…

http://www.google.com/search?q=bathroom+in+black+tile+picture&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=aN97T6G9Fomi2gXFmoy4DA&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=719

@hybr1d3d
Now my bathrooms is using white & light blue tile, the tile always like to stick with yellow and black stain if not wash every day lor…. that why i prefer darker color no need to wash everyday save time & energy ma…..rite?

@AhTu
By looking at your pictures, it need to be white lining between in the black tiles to make it looks good.

@AhTu

now you only realize black color also look sui……….hehe

@Orange Juice
if i not mistaken, i recalled the show unit bathroom eh black tiles are separated with white lining lor…hehe…

@New
i think it will looks sui n constrast only when we put a white big bathtub, washing bin pung n a big mirror so that those big mirror n big white bathtub n washing bin pung can covered lot parts of the black tiles lor…hehe…

but for the exterior buidling eh color, i still vote no go la…dull dull eh color at front view of building really sian la…light color better la…hehe…n exterior eh color, we cannot suka suka change it ma if we not like it.we will kena hantam by our neigbours n JMC lor if we suka suka paint it with the color we like lor…haha..but for the things in interior building 1(inside the house la), we can change it by ourself ma if we bo suka the color on tile of wall ma.. haha

@Orange Juice
Orang Juice, pls fill in the check list about the extra lighting point for toilet basin

Grace :

hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
Please use above check list to continue

For shower area inside the toilet, it would be great if the wall corner can add some marble corner shelve during laying of wall tiles, so again, that can help us to avoid hacking later.

They are very practical and useful for putting soap, shampoo and etc on it…not very expensive item and can be found as accessories in tile shop..

See google pictures:

https://www.google.com.my/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1451&bih=1210&q=marble+corner+shelf+for+shower&gbv=2&oq=marble+corner+shel&aq=1S&aqi=g-S3g-mS1&aql=&gs_l=img.3.1.0i24l3j0i5i24.1277l7232l0l9337l26l26l4l3l3l0l152l2117l4j15l19l0.frgbld.

Hehe, just googled and found the name of the light above toilet mirror is called “vanity light”

Google picture:

https://www.google.com.my/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1451&bih=1210&q=vanity+light&gbv=2&oq=vanity+light&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l10.2832l4968l0l5238l12l12l0l2l2l0l111l1038l1j9l10l0.frgbld.#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=vanity+lights+bathroom&oq=vanity+light&aq=5&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3.5.0l10.50485l51420l2l56767l2l2l1l0l0l0l118l118l0j1l1l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=11a7f10e9f5691e6&biw=1451&bih=1210

@AhTu
I would suggest that developer can come out with a package for buyer to choose what type of color of tile they prefer. This will not incurred any additional cost to developer as well as buyer but only workload for Tah Wah’s employee to coordinate and execute as per customer’s demand. Further more this is only for interior and not exterior, so shouldn’t have any concern from the committee or JMC. I have seen one project in Penang come out with this idea before but cannot recall the project name already. What do you guys think?

@Grace

this is good idea lor provided developer willing to do that for us la…as u rightly pointed out ma – this will incurr the additional workload for tah wah’s employee to coordinate n execute per customer’s demand ma….if developer can come out 5-8 types of tiles color for buyer to choose, then that is perfect lor….but i think the changes for developer to have this kind of tile pakages stuffs for buyer to choose is not high lor cause who want to do additional works le..unless developer generous enough la..haha…anyway can try to raise to them oso la..no harm to raise ma..

Start to feel bore already this forum, keep talking about personal wish ….

I stayed at the Orange Villa kampung houses for 27 years until I got married. My family used well water as our drinking water. We dig the well and the well water is the only source of water for 15 years. The water in the well is salty and metals stuff always got rusty very fast including our family cars. The water is salty because the soil there is salty. So, I’m not sure is anyone aware of this. So, to me that land is no good bcos of the soil. I’m also worried that place may be flooded becuase my kampung house always flooded but if the developer raised the land higher, then I think should be OK. Also, Jalan Betek houses are flooded and the place near the temple are also flooded. What about Taman Gemilang Indah? Good place?

hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
Ah Pek added in 4 points above. Any objections we vote later.

@Alice
I don’t think need to worry about the under ground water quality, PBA water supply is treated water.

hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area

@Tan Pek
I don’t understand why need to have a convinient store inside club house run by JMC?

Foresee all the suggestions here will become useless later if without a leader that can lead the Purchaser Association and talk to Tah Wah’s management including Datuk Hoong ! 😉

No leader no talk ! Probably will become no actions at last as well ! 😉

I can see the most commented person is Orange Juice and AhTu, i volunteer to talk to developer but i have not time for editing. I can sense the most keen person to feedback is Orange Juice. Could you take the lead, we will support you.
I can accompany u if you plan to meet TahWah, but question is, are you ready to expose you self … who is Juice ….. so far, AhTu & Wowwow have make known to Developer already. We both speak with high fact and need to be a constructive suggestion.
I am WinnieWowWow, actually it is my belove girl-doggy name ‘Winnie’, when she bark, will sound like ‘WowWow’. Nice to meet you all here.

Besides, we need to be careful this forum, we could use multiple name to edit, so those vote will not be real. We still have to meet up to deside.

@ABCO
u r right le….. hehe

@WinnieWowWow
u r right too le…..hehe..i’m pet lover too..wonder how r u going to settle ur doggy when u move to orange vila ah? we know orange vila not allow life animals including dog in there lor….hehe..headache….headache..

@WinnieWowWow
Winnie,

Dog or Pet is not allowed in OV. Hope you can be a lovely OV Tenant…

WinnieWowWow :Besides, we need to be careful this forum, we could use multiple name to edit, so those vote will not be real. We still have to meet up to deside.

I think small pet is ok as it stays in the house, not outside!

@Penang BMW

it is veli subjective when talk on the size of the dog lor…doggy owner may feel their dog is in small size but the neighbour not think so ..they think the dog in medium size not small lor..hehe…some dog owner may think their dog is medium but actually to some ppl is big size of dog..how to measure the size then..hehe…but follow the dead of mutual agreement, we can bela life animals there..anyone know how Palm Villas take care on this life animal stuff there? they ban it totally or close one eyes n open one eyes ah ? haha…i got “medium” size of doggy too..that’s y i asked u all opinions lor…hehe

typo – we cannot bela life animal there..pai sei pai sei..hehe

Penang BMW, i am kind of feel uneasy with your comment of think u can rear small dog. You potential be the root of conflict and a troublemaker to JMC.
I am JMC in Penang condo, no is no. Cannot rear mean cannot rear. If u rear a small dog, u may think it is small? say Sze Tzu consider small? Buy very noice. ChiWaWa a tiny doggy too, but hyper noice. Then 2nd owner, rear slightly bigger, then 3rd bigger again, 4th bigger lagi … end up with Big dog also consider small dog, end up with Ovilla lost control. JMC sakit sakit kepala. I would not like any of the owner rear animal. If I am JMC, i will ask jabatan Haiwan ‘settle’ the dog, if i am not JMC, i will push JMC very hard everyday to ‘settle’ the dog.
As my lovely Winnie, she live in home town, not here and not follow me.

Bear in mind again, GnG value is standardization and neat and tiny …. go in feel like resort or hotel. This is the actual value of Ovilla. If you feel some thing could consider close one eye, then everyone also have some this he think is small violation and ask JMC to close one eye. Time go on, enforcement become a problem.
Imaging the house beside you suddenly build higher the partition concrete wall, and violate the rule of modify external look, JMC approuch him and warm he, he may say, my neibor rear dog and very noice. You JMC not working and allow jiran to rear dog … how JMC do, u say!
Then lost control lost control already. If developer is reading this forum, better be more straight to all owner when we move it. Becos developer is the starter for the management, if the start it badly, JMC will have hard time to corrected it back.
Penang BMW, i know u are load and drive BMW, but do follow and respect the rule.
Dog? No in No …..

Everything still go back to the Deed of Mutual agreement that we sign. If the law allow, then u just do according the rule.
Penang BMW, u may feel offend with me comment, but if u think deeply, u will agree this will help ur Ovilla house to enjoy maximum apprciation value.
Believe me, BMW ….

I would give a reminder to you all, every onwer not only own his own 3770 sf unit, but he or she also own the entire GnG compound area. If he/she see some violation, a good citizen of Ovilla, should stand up and pointm out the wrong act immediately. Or else, the burden will go back to JMC and you all know JMC is volunteer job, and a tough job, pity-ful job. But we cannot live without JMC also, or else, our fund, no people safe guard, and let future manage spend. Again, how well GnG or Condo is not the management, but resident him self. If majority resident is good, the we are lucky, or else we will regret buying this GnG. Evne 2 to 3 problematic resident everyday storm into the management office, that is enough headache already. If everyone just sweep snow in front of own door, then after a few year, u can see the garden will like other houe with individual title hse. Modified here and there, value will not go high. Believe me.

@WinnieWowWow
Hi WinnieWowwow,

I really glad to see you have a lot passion in OV and I do appreciate alot of your comment and initiative. As we think it is everyone’s right to voice up opinion/comment/suggestions, honestly I think you comments on some thread are over the top. I think you should respect others’ comment. I understand you want to make OV better, but others still have their freedom in talking about OV.

You may dislike what I say, but I do think you should show more respect to others.

Orange Villa developer did not force anyone of you to buy a house there. Buy already yet have so much of concerned. Want better quality house, then, go for branded developer like IJM, Ivory, Mah Sing. Tat Wah is not branded developer, so expect much from them.

@WinnieWowWow

Winnie, please be opened to read people’s comment. people have the freedom of speech.
it may not sound nice or you may not agree with the comment. just filter it out.
by the way, i give two thumb up if you can be part of the JMC. :p

Tan Pek already 70. Dunno wat is deed wa sign? Lawyer say sign, wa pun signlah. Few years ago, wa saw 1 injure bird and ho sim give it some thing to eat. Now it is following me. Is it a pet? People feed kimlenghu, wa also feed 1 lah…hee….is it a live animal? Wa buy Orange Villa because the location and house is big. My son and cucu can stay with me mah…tapi wa dunno got so many rules. Wa eh house now, sometime got miaw come visit one…sometime rice eat cannot finish, wa pun give it the miaw. Then the miaw also come alwaylah…If wa stay in OV, then wa can give miaw food or not. Wa ai call Mpsp boh? Wat no to call? O Ni To Hut, it is same like kill it….. Or wa tangkap it and pan sneh. Wowwow, lu is younger and got experience, lu advice lah….

@Tan Pek
no need to call MPSP , call the viet gong… they can solve the miaw problem for you…

TanPek …. never mind, we will advice do and not-do … u just follow. If u have any urgent need below of too old, call your neibor, we will help laaa…….. as long as u are not hard core.

Chin … sorry huh … lu tak suka wa eh speech, sorry laa ….. i have season enuf as JMC already, use to talk like that d. But u know my intention is good, thx for understand me huh …. about JMC, see how la, if i can drop my JMC work here condo, i can be JMC Ovilla. 150 unit only mahh … sup-sup xui la …. here condo 500 units laaaa … some more gangster a lot laaaa …. sorry again huh

Alice … be patience …… Orange Juice have concern and ask for support, we should support her. You should not ask her not buiy, SnP already sign, how? only now she seen the show house, sure she will have concern and voice up.

Chin and ManUtd ….. respect is individual feeling, very subjective. We dont argue here, but point is GnG is guarded all resident no no to rear dog or cat.

Penang BMW …… u think u can rear small dog, knowing the rule not allow …. this is start violation ….. it is a no no.

stp …… a phantom speaker here. I can guess who actually use this phantom name here …. pls save it.

Yeah yeah chin …… i think Alice is another phantom speaker here ….. just ignore her.
May be is a he ….
But for sure for TahWah, he is facing a very good team of buyer here.
TahWah will success if they can make Ovilla success.
Just like a success Chef, because he can take critisize from customer.
We are constructive and not trouble maker.

@WinnieWowWow
WinniwWowWow veri good. Wa er give 2 hand and 2 leg support her. If can, voice up all concerns to developer. Open house will be in 14 April. Petition is goodlah. At list black n white mah…..
Thankyu you.

I only voiced my opinion to the free speech world, even it still based on what I saw in the previously incomplete show units, I am fine if you don’t agree what I thought and wished for improvement, the developer may not entertain too. Branded developers do not make known to everyone overnight, they were once unbranded when they started, but cultivated the quality to make them today. We shall encourage constructive suggestion and submit to developer, adopted or not is seperate issue, but not keeping quiet until everything is too late to improve.

TanPek … really? Open house is on 14-Apr?
We should set a time all those forum people here should meet up and expose our real name and identity .. we will be goos neibor and give helping help to each other.
We need to ensure TahWah success in this Ovilla also.
In fact, some of us is also intent to support Oville coming Orange series of development.
Who know one day TahWah may build one luxury Orange ShyHome (higher condo in penang) in the Island or Autocity area. We all will be he very good references and testimony person.
We need TahWah, TahWah need us also. Wish TahWah can be another BSG or SP Setia or MahSing

Juice, i support u but i hope u can commit more in action. Be our secretary, ok not? AhTu be Chairman. Ok not Juice and Tutu (Cute Pig). After i drop my condo JMC, i can join u all

@WinnieWowWow

WinnieWowWow :
Juice, i support u but i hope u can commit more in action. Be our secretary, ok not? AhTu be Chairman. Ok not Juice and Tutu (Cute Pig). After i drop my condo JMC, i can join u all

The voting must be done FTF, so, if possible, we should have a FTF meeting before raising our concern to Tah Wah, and do it ASAP

so for those who have concern, please attend or get your rep to attend without excuses.

the suggestion is constructive or not we can decide by voting. If after voting still feel unsatisfying, the person can raise his/her point again and debate / convince others.

the important thing is, to keep this neighborhood democratic, have high EQ and understanding for the rules and regulation applied.

Understanding is very important, or else, there will be someone ended up breaking the rules, and slowly, spread the “cancer” among the neighborhood. (e.g. someone throw rubbish on open spaces, others might start thinking, since he can do so, why i cant)

@AhTu

If dog & cat not allow, I think rear some chickens & ducks in the rooftop should be no problem lor…cos chickens & ducks is poultry not a pet ma rite ?……….after become big can masak sedap di makan lor……hehe Actually rear dog & cat is good lor… eg: when somebody come near to your door the dog will bark wowwow and let you know and the cat can chase mice,cockroach,lizard & other insects away ma……. it is good if allow rear pet in Orange Villa ……..

Orange Juice :
@Tan Pek
I don’t understand why need to have a convinient store inside club house run by JMC?

I think rather than a convinient store, I have amother proposal, how about a small recycling corner or room to collect residents ‘s old newspaper, magazine, soft drink can, and etc, jmc later can sell that for charity? I m sure we will have lots of recyclable items produced everyday, at the same time that can contribute back to society.

Also the developer will need city council’s approval for addiing a commercial unit into residential housing scheme, it is almost impossible already, maybe can do that for tah wah next project only …

hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area
15. To give buyer option to choose for solar heater
16. Recycling collection room for community

I think one more thing to talk about toilet, is suggestion to have option of installing solar heater system by developer.

As @Chin mentioned earlier, if hot water pipes are ready, it seems that the option for us will be “storage” type heater tank to be installed at ceiling space. For so many toilets per house, and to constantly maintain the hot water temperature inside the tanks, the electrical bills, I don’t know the calculation, shall be expected very *high*, some more we shall anticipate that TNB will keep adjusting their rate every few years.

If we want to install solar heater later, contractor will need to modify piping (and hack internal or external walls & floors tiles, re-do toilet waterproofing, repainting), not only it will be messy, and so many heater points provided by developer will also be wasted, as I think solar heater system just need one point. The idea is to save the cost of placing so many heater electrical points, but instead replace it will solar heater system, and some more with sufficient order quantity, developer might be able to get a good deal with supplier for buyers to buy at project price, rather than individual buyer’s price.

To the developer it means the entire house piping has to route differently, in order to have a centralized heater tank and solar panel at the roof, and of course need more coordination works from the developer’s manpower . Just like option to install home lift, why not an option for hot water / heater system for buyer to choose as well? All buyers will appreciate that, and I guess probably the developer can also get a “green” certificate (or something similar) because of achieving reduction of energy, as one additional selling points too.

@V@gmal.my

i think the concerns on rear dog n cat in the GnG community are cause of these type of pets may suka suka pang sai here n there plus dog veli like to bark too..sometimes they song song bark without any reasons lor..may b their teeth gatal kut…hehe…n their WowWow or VowVow sounds may disturb the neighbours later on lor..hehe…

for rear chickens or ducks at the rooftop…hehe, it may bring H1N1 desease later on …how lam lor if kena…haha

i think if u want to make a beautiful fish pond at ur side land for corner units or on ur backyard for intermediate units, then it should b ok laa…cause fish will not bark n will not suka suka pang sai at ur neighbour’s house ma..it will not disturb ur neigbours ma… hehe

but as i always like to mention here, “Democracy” practices is utmost important in GnG community lor, JMC members nid to be voted by all orange vila eh residents too…besides when JMC wanted to setup a rules on some practices in the community, it should go thru voting process too….but b4 voting, it is good if can hv a briefing session to all residents first on what are the good n bad points if applying that rule in orange vila lor, this is to make them understand that their vote is important to make orange vila success, if not they might suka suka hantam the vote n simply put the cross in the voting paper lor..haha…, if majority of resident voted ‘Yes’ to the suggested rule, then minority eh resident that say ‘No” to that rule should follow majority eh views liao… pls correct me if i m wrong in voting process in GnG lor….as i m zero experiences in JMC stuffs ma….i guess should b like this la…hehe..this including wheter can bela dogs, miao, ducks n ayam lor..hehe

AhTu……. hoe ka chai bo Hiong-Hiong Kar-Kar buy Orange Villa lor…hehe.. I had 2 Rottweiler dogs very intelligence & well train, won’t simply bark wowwow wan lor.. and my dog wan to pang sai or pang jui e eh go to the toilet. very disappointed not allow to rear dogs……….. heard that Palm Villas resident can rear dogs lor ….hehe

@CR

halo CR…can rear dog or cannot rear dog ….i think all will b depend on the voting from the residents in there lor…i may b wrong in this matter lor…but i still belive majority of the residents eh views are the final decision lor…hehe

if palm vila can rear dog, meaning majority of the palm vila eh residents OK with rears dog in their community lor..may b they hv placing some rules there such as if ur dog pang sai, u nid to pick it sai into the paper beg, if ur dog eh teeth gatal n like to bark here n there…then put the dog “mask”(dunno how to call that stuffs ..) into it so that it cannot simply bark lor…but @WinnieWowWow eh comments on rear dog in GnG community should be ban oso make sense too la..cause if at first allow rear dog in a community environment n later want to tarik balik that rule due to residents not fully follow the rear dog rules set by JMC, then very hard liao that time…u will may c dog eh sai in the swimming pool n in ur garden may b or at the road….hehe..just my views oni in this matter la…hehe

@AhTu
OV is open concept, imagine your neighbor’s dog pang sai at your car porch and you step on it early morning when you are about to leave. how would you feel? please obey to the rule on deed of mutual covenant that you have signed. if don’t want to follow, then go get a piece of land and build your own house.

@AhTu
we all very happy to stay in OV rite…? people staying in OV feels like no freedom lor, rear dog & cat also cannot mei……. it is not fair to the people who love pets. suggestion only……. can rear pets but had to follow rules & condition can work or not….? AhTU……..

AhTu… if OV people rear good dog, their dog won’t simply pang sai neighbor car porch,swimming pool and other places……the owner will surely look after their dog very carefully………betul ka….?

@chin n @New n
@V@gmal.my

i think no nid to discuss or argue on the rear dog or ducks or cat or ayam issues here lor ..hehe as we all not know what are the majority of residents eh opinions on this matter lagi ma….n we oso dun hv JMC lagi pun la…

@Chin – if talk on deed of mutual agreement, then as far as i know, if majority of residents in GnG agree to take out the rules in there, if i not mistaken, they can do that juga lor..i recall i did ask lawyer on this matter when i signed this agreement si lor…lawyers said the same to me too… hehe..

dun woli, for me, i’ll follow majority of the residents eh opinions on what ever rules that will b applied there….hehe

Some people treat dog & cat like human, some dog & cat even wear shirt, cap & trouser.
can’t understand why some people want to ban for not allow to rear pets……..cos afraid of pang sai ,wow-wow ,mieow- mieow it is a good reason ……….please treat pets as equal….., hope you all can consider lor……I’m not argue here……

No, pls do not simply open the flood-gate. Once open, very hard to stop and pull back.
I wish you all Oranger, pls think masak masak and throw away those selfishness thinking. Jiran diam diam does not mean they have not problem. Animal still animal, the flood-gate once open, more think will come. End up with GnG just look like other non-gated garden. Look at Bayu Mutiara, look so messy. All people modified house like nobody business. We have think what is Orange Villa Value Be:
1) Neat
2) Standardize
3) Organize
4) Look like resort or hotel (5-Star)
5) Feel proud when people visit your house.
Comment area is all belong to us also. We all sharing the comment area. MPSP does not come in an manage for your front door, it is JMC+Management arrange for u.
If any lamp poles blowed, TNB will not come, JMC+Management have to fix it our self.
If any hard core resident done crazy act like eligel parking or every storm to management office and shout, police will reluctent to settle for u, JMC+management will have to settle for u.
If one visitor come in but break or vandalism any think, police case involved, JMC+ Management will have to follow up.

How much you guy pay JMC for all kind of free job? So far not many people like to be JMC one, in real world. Due to this, i would advice you all, pls follow the rule. Do not simply open any flood gate. Do not simple allow or tolerence and violation. Don’t ever say this is non of my business, let the stupid JMC manage it or talk to the offended.

Respect JMC that elected by you all. After all, he/she will be the one who give free service to you all to make the garden a better place to live.

So far, i can see AhTu and Chin disagree to rear dog or cat.
Pls dont talk noncence of chicken or duck …. sure cannot.

To me, if the law say cannot, if you still do it in front of the committee, which mean you are challenge the committee and the rule, mean you are committing offence. The conflict will start. Some people think he is a taiko, just simple violate. My experiecne is, work with all JMC and other resident, put guy/taiko into lockup for 48 hrs reman. After all, this taiko become quai-quai and no more problem. We work very closely with police until the inspector police also good fren with us already. Just to let you all know, each time AGM happen, i always gain very strong support one. Pai Seh ….. free service for people mahh …

Some of you may not like me, it is OK. Then you, pls stand up become JMC. I will support you as well.

@WinnieWowWow

Kam xia WowWow for sharing past experiences ….n kam xia for volunteered n willingness to become JMC members n to make orange vila a good place to stay lor! hehe….we really nid a ppl that ever been a JMC before in orange vila to join future orange vila eh JMC lor….hehe…..but anyhow i believe JMC still nid to respect majority eh resident eh opinions? so voting is important too rite? …feel free to correct me if i m wrong lor..hehe

WinnieWowWow, you have good intention, but you act like samseng. orange villa is not lokap. you pls dun act like this…
even though rear pets is not allowed, but the way you talk is like samseng, no democratic, you just want ppl follow your way..
i just bought a unit, so no need to doubt me tht i am not a buyer

hello all oranger, i look at the list. i have 1 comment. anyone feel that the main entrance door of show unit is small?

AhTu …… why Winniewowwow talk like that wan……. ? look like e ai cho JMC chairman lor…hehe

@Alice
Yes, Tah Wah is brand new company and not as popular as IJM/Mah Sing/DNP and etc. But think of the OV’s price, I don’t see the point why the buyers here cannot put their request to developer since the project not started yet. It will be too late for us to spell out to developer when the house is completely built. IJM/Mah Sing delivered a good quality of house and I think no exceptional for Tah Wah. Please be remind that this is half a million’s house.
What make you think that the buyer here cannot expect much from Tah Wah?

Just-an-oranger :
hello all oranger, i look at the list. i have 1 comment. anyone feel that the main entrance door of show unit is small?

@Just-an-oranger

You can just add that to the list, copy and paste ..

@Winnie wow wow, I standard on your side for no pet policy and support standardization ..the five core value that you listed shall be the ultimate goal that community want to achieve ..I went to see bayu mutiara houses before, nice high class area and location, but spoiled by the modification of individual house owner to any style they like, they don’t care for Mppp approval also …

As i say, i have other JMC work … no really can commit to Ovilla.
I am taking opportunity to inform you all my pass hectic experience.
Since like only AhTu could appreciate what i just say.
I am from Penang, pass day Singaporean say Penang people dont know how to saty in Condo or GnG, not penangite have learn up. Now it is main land people.
Other still dont appreciate. I leave it for you all.
To me,
1st class citizen, 1st class nation
3rd class citizan, 3rd class nation
I leave it for the Ovilla citizen to decide, not me.
Most people may be 80% in Mainland do not live in strata title project, they are still thinking they have absolute freedom on GnG. It is not.
Pls go back and read you Deed of Mutual aggreement. Pls read and u will know. A good rule been set and we all agree to it then we buy Ovilla. And not come it and choose your own rule and preference. The is actually even more gangster act and selfish act.
If all people continue to do his own way, e.g. rear dog, then Ovilla will start lose control already. Pityful those JMC.
I dont mean to show interest as Chaiman, let you be, who can actually show passion and consistent, to serve. I have no time for it. Here just use this forum to share and advice.
For ur infor, i have more then 10 time go to police station to settle conflict and put gangster resident into police case. more the 10 time go to COM/MPPP to meet COB officer and even ADUN office, CM office. Last month just inquire by COB chairman (Puan Patahiyah) due to complain from condo, end up with my chairman and i screwed all the MPPP city connsel of not manage well and dont have a good act/law for higher building in penang. Simple question, owner no pay maintenance fee, what can COB help. No rule. I dont mean to show off, just want you all to realize, not easy to stay in GnG or condo, to make it well manage. Majority Resident mindset is the main reason. A small JMC will end up become sand-bag to other if resident scold him. That why, not many people want to be JMC. Here, how many of you willing to become and join our initial Purchaser Committee? Pls ask our self.

Oranger Juice and AhTu, i appreciate your understanding on my intention.
As MPPP lost control for ilegal house modification.
BN government not control for so many years, now PR government want to start, very hard already, become political issue already.
Same as Ovilla, we need to start good, or else, another lost comtrol in Ovilla mini government.
Due to MPPP lost control, when they inquire my committee, we really screw them and push them to come out a better act/law to govern high rise in penang.

Again, i am a dog lover also until my name here is my gal-doggy name ‘Winnie’ and ‘WowWow’ is her barking sound.
But when i choose OVilla, mean i have decided to stay apart with her ……

@WinnieWowWow

the way you differentiate – island ppl, mainland ppl.
I hope you dont have those islander mentality. If you think island is so great, stay there and dont cross the bridge la.
I also live in penang condo.

you sound very pek chek. If you cant manage your emotion, you better dont involve in JMC, no matter you leave your current JMC or not.
You will only stir up argument and fight.

Just-an-oranger :WinnieWowWow, you have good intention, but you act like samseng. orange villa is not lokap. you pls dun act like this…even though rear pets is not allowed, but the way you talk is like samseng, no democratic, you just want ppl follow your way..i just bought a unit, so no need to doubt me tht i am not a buyer

When a JMC confront so much with rear ganster, i have been season like this already. Actually i am just a little Principle Engineer in Bayan Lepas FTZ area only. N political background amd no gangster background also …. You have to carefully what i express, u feel bad cos u may be another hard core rule violator in future. JMc will come against u.

In fact, u are using a phantom name for this comment.
Another joker that dare not use original forum name to scold people.

@Viven
Yes lor, animal should have equal treat but please consider others people feeling as well. Some pets owner really over like bring their pets along into restaurant or hawker center, I doubts does they know that an animal is animal, it will never can become human. This is a fact.
What make people that cannot follow the rules?

I think we all should thank @Winnie and feel lucky that we have an experienced jmc joining the orange community. Having strict rules is not enough, we also need “enforcement ” to ensure everyone follow, that is the hardest part. I m ok to join purchaser committee, joining jmc need to think twice first, hehe.

@WinnieWowWow

even good condo in penang island also have this type of issue – ppl stil not following rules. then you make this type of comment “mainland ppl need to learn how to live in gng”.

so, you better spend sometime reflecting on yourself.

@Just-an-oranger
Your word will carried more weight if really make sense. You need to agree that concept of GnG. Pin point on my emotion and deviate the main discussion point.
Pls use your original name, dont use phantom name here, pls brother.

@WinnieWowWow

you always said ppl use phantom name and scold ppl, but u should look at yourself la. you also shoot ppl like nobody business ma..

dun be so pek chek lar.. cool down ma

Guys n Girls,

i think we should put our focus back to the suggestion list on the show units that will b open for viewing on next week lor–> 14-Apr lor…hehe…for the rules n JMC stuffs, leave it first as our tiang rumah pun tak nampak lagi ma…..i think may b 2-3yrs for orange vila to complete build n get OC lor….so rules stuff n JMC stuffs leave it first lor….hehe…

i support what WinnieWowWow eh comment lor as staying in GnG really nid to follow the rules that being setup by JMC n mgmt. If the rules are too lose, it may become the issues to whole community later on. if the rules too strict, residents might feel like staying in the lokap n scaring the buyer too..haha…so i think sometime we nid to balance up the rules n also the residents eh feeling on the too stringent rules impose if hv lor…personaly i’m happy to c lot of constructive comment n suggestion in this topic lor…but since our tiang rumah eh shadow pun tak nampak lagi, let leave it here first…so what do u think guys n girls? hehe…

@AhTu

yes – follow the rules is OK, tapi they way winniewowwow act and tulis, macam really want to make our home as lokap.
cakap like shoot ppl and act like samseng

@AhTu
Support you and Winnie Wow Wow, obey with rules and majority

Ok …. since we will be jiran also, we should be fren back … ok?
I appologize to all of you who feel offended with my word. Sorry again.
I admitted i could be a over express here on all those sour, bitter, suffer for my last 3 years as JMC with high passion want to make my condo better.
Until clash with rear gangster, kick our ex-JMC from JMB becos ex-JMC involve in violent case, direct confront with hardcore resident until police case.
All actually bring zero cent to me but i believe in God, as i serve people and the God will know me.
When i type more, i will tent to ‘kee form’ and type a lot here. I may touch your heart with my word, sorry again.

I can volunteered myself as a committee too, always count me in for the meeting.

@AhTu ‘
I already input a lot suggestion, I think practicality is priority for any design, the rest leave until we see the complete show house first.

@WinnieWowWow

we all wanna make orange villa a best place to live. as i said earlier, i believe you have good intention. and i agree we need to follow rules etc etc etc..

anyway, too early to talk about all this, harap tah wah can deliver good house lar.

@Just-an-oranger
I say sorry to you, as you cannot accept the way i type here. You may be pengsan if i ceramah i front of you, more flaming up …. haha …… again, sincere sorry to u, my future jiran. Ok not?

Ah Pek wa stay in KL condo for 20 years before. Wa eh experience ah…We need people like Winniewowwow, otherwise, all mess up. If things mess up, owners dun wan to pay maintenance fee. If no maintenance fee, how to improve management service? It is ker n nui eh story loh. Wa just learn one word…catch 22 situation…and the end and the only possible result is….poor maintenance….value of the property drop and drop …….
So…pls dun turn the focus now….petition to developer…not dog n chicken story lah….Open house is coming….just next week….

I feel better after listen to more people appreciate my word and work.
AhTu, Grace, OrangeJuice, Chin, TanPek ….. u all understood me and my intention.

And due to my high commitment to my apartment society, clean and clear on the account, when we was ask by MPPP for inquiry, we when then and screw them. Almost all of them are 15 city counsellor, get screw by 3 youngs JMC members (all of us are MNC employee) in Komtar main meeting hall.

@WinnieWowWow n @WinnieWowWow

we all r good jiran ma..hehe…pls calm down n cool down….everyone has it own characteristic la…anyway glad to c both of u can hv a happy ending on this topic now..n happy to c u all are very kan cheong on orange vila n together wanted to make orange vila a nice place to stay lor….! hehe…

let’s put the focus back to suggestion list, that is more important topic as of now i believe lor !..hehe

Some items in the opinion list still need to verify with the complete show house ..so is it 14 or 21 April?

Juice, we should set a time during the open house, pi sama sama see our future house …

ybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area
15. To give buyer option to choose for solar heater
16. Recycling collection room for community
17. Enforce waste separation that used to be done in Japan.
(Burnable, Not Burnable, and Recyclable)

Burnable includes Food Waste; Not Burnable such as plastic and so forth, Recyclable are materials such as papers, cans and so forth. We can get Eco’s NGO to guide us on this.
Hope OV residents won’t give excuses and complaint troublesome / “Ma huan”. Don’t be lazy

But the problem is that Mpsp rubbish collection end does not able to separate the waste and recycle. It used to be a recycling champion run by boleh land government asking people to throw rubbish in three color bin to separate the rubbish, at the end the sad truth was, the collection contractor simply mix them, and all the effort wasted.

” champaign” not “champion “, typo

@Orange Juice

campaign not champaign

@New
Mr/Ms New, since your english is better, could you please take up the job of summarizing our wish and put it on paper with proper wordings to the developer? Thos agree can then sign on the paper.

@Alice

Halo Alice..i noticed you went to few penang property sites to sell ur permatang santuary project lor…hehe..very funny lor…n now u came to orange vila site to gave bad comments on it..hehe… looks like u never understand what is GnG mean lor…n u oso never bought GnG too cause seem likes u never c the dead of mutual agreement in ur life lor..hehe FYI the dead of mutual agreement nid to be signed by all buyers when they bought any GnG concept houses including condo la…hehe….i hope u will learn lot of things in this blog lor especially on dead of mutual agreement la..hehe.. 😉

lastly BN or DAP…they all nid to go thru voting process as malaysia is a country that practising “democracy” la..hehe… i think u may nid to study our country history as well…aiyo..lu really how lam lor..hehe..

@AhTu
I never buy any house at the mainland — I’m from the island and I stay at condominum. I have one dog and my other neighbour have 2 dogs.

Wah ….. this site is hot ……. so long away from the forum and found it have a lot of debat here. Personally i stand with AhTu, WinnieWow, OrangeJuice, TanPek and all other who can follow rule. I stay in Condo for 10 years at Singapore & Penang, GnG and Condo have to be very strict, or else it will be a mess and spoil. Cann count on management company, still depand on people or JMC attitude. Winnie show he have lot of experience, tell all the main point. If we need freedom, better buy other place. My self will support to have strict rule.

@Alice
I never regret with my decision and indeed I am happy to have Ah Tu, Winnie Wow Wow and all the others Orange Villa buyers as my neighbors at Orange Villa…

@Alice

oh i see..some condo is ok with rear a small dog there but some are not ok lor… it will depend veli much on how the mgmt/JMC guarded the rules in GnG or condo…hehe.. if rear a dog in ur unit really disturb ur neighbour, then ur neighbour hv a right to complaint to mgmt/JMC n mgmt/JMC hv the right to take action againt u lor…if u r the owner of the condo that u r currenty stayed in, then u can re-check back the rules inside the dead of mutual agreement that u signed during signing SnP previously lor..hehe..sure hv one clause regarding no life animals in the premises 1…cause dead of mutual agreement is a standard agreement for GnG concept including condo lor..hehe..unless u bought the guarded only housing project lor…then no nid to sign dead of mutual agreement liao cause guarded only housing project which without swimming pool or club house mostly are in individual title lor n not in strata title la..hehe…it is good to check n learn from the ppl’s comment lor under this site if u r not sure on strata title vs individual title, or GnG vs guarded only scheme lor..hehe…happy learning ! 😉

Guys, I think no point of wasting our time on replying or entertain the message from Alice. After some time she will be away from this page due to no fun. Let focus on the list and discuss for further action.

I think it is good for those people knowing that to stay Ovilla, GnG, better follow rule, if not, leave this site. This will good for future JMC, not to have too many hardcore owner.
Positive side to developer is, easier to manage Ovilla for this first 1-2 years, earn good name and lift up good name of ‘Orange’ brand, so that it will be as good as ‘Apple’ brand.

Ok, grace ….

i went to the site last Sunday. Developer hired security guard there… i was told by the security that i cannot go inside the house and he asked me to come back on next week which was this coming Saturday if my memory serve me well.

@WinnieWowWow

Dear all Oranger, it is very nice to see all of the owners here willing to ensure we have a good environment.

Looking forward to Orange Villa completion.

WinnieWowWow – I would like to thank you for your sharing of opinion and experience. And I thnk your comments above are meant to make sure we don’t fall into the common pit falls of GNG or Condo. I think as long as Orange Villa is managed properly and with common sense, most of the people will be able to accept. I think most of the owners will have common sense.

To Alice – looking at BM area, I would say Orange Villa is still the best GNG, this is what I still believe.

The formula to make Orange Villa the best GnG in BM area =
Developer listen to buyer +
Developer made handsome money +
Buyer Discipline follow rule +
Buyer Happy with Quality & Finishing +
Buyer Happy with Design +
Buyer Care and willing to involve JMC
= Best Best GnG in BM …… TahWah Best Developer in BM.

chin :
i went to the site last Sunday. Developer hired security guard there… i was told by the security that i cannot go inside the house and he asked me to come back on next week which was this coming Saturday if my memory serve me well.
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So it is 14 April to open, did they inform the time? Thanks, I dare not go to the site last weekend, as the workers there are getting a bit "unfriendly " to visitors recently ..

hybr1d3d :

Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area
15. To give buyer option to choose for solar heater
16. Recycling collection room for community
17. Enforce waste separation that used to be done in Japan.
(Burnable, Not Burnable, and Recyclable)
Burnable includes Food Waste; Not Burnable such as plastic and so forth, Recyclable are materials such as papers, cans and so forth. We can get Eco’s NGO to guide us on this.
Hope OV residents won’t give excuses and complaint troublesome / “Ma huan”. Don’t be lazy
18. Main door width

Somebody mentioned about the main entrance door width, so I just added that. Later we go site verify and vote whether the each item in the list to be submitted to developer. I think the door quite high, probably more than 8ft, however I don’t really take very much attention to the door.

Another thing to check, will be the location of washing machine provided by developer, I guess since we all will be hanging cloth only at roof, logical location for washing machine will be there too. A well thought location there shall need :
1) power point
2) water tap
3) floor drainage pipe

Practically if the main entrance door can be shifted by one foot or so, to allow some space between the door and partition wall, then we can later make shoes cabinet at either outside or inside against the partition wall of the building. The modification will be just like the corner show unit.

I thought developers have given clear message to buyer that pets are strictly not allowed on OV?

Orange Juice :
But the problem is that Mpsp rubbish collection end does not able to separate the waste and recycle. It used to be a recycling champion run by boleh land government asking people to throw rubbish in three color bin to separate the rubbish, at the end the sad truth was, the collection contractor simply mix them, and all the effort wasted.

Things will change, some authority is working on it (Penang only)

@hybr1d3d
This is the first message i got from the sales personnel. She said Pets is not allowed in this housing project as it’s open concept. We just hope that no people try to bent the rules.
JMC must be firmed …. Pets Lover, please love OV as you love your pets. you won’t want to hide your pets in your house as keeping a mistress at home. don’t you agree?

Show house launching this weekend 14-15.04.2012. 9 am – 7 pm.

We can have our AGM as well as..

I am new buyer here …. fully agree that we need strict rule in GnG. Any exceptional case will be consider case to case basics. Or else, it will be a mess ….. Buy GnG spend extra also get a mess, better go an buy other open concept house.
Alice, u are not welcome.

For those pet lovers, I respect your love to animals. However, I would also hope you could respect the regulation fixed by the developer before they promote their house.

The first thing I heard from Katherine, pet is strictly not allowed in this premises.
This is why I’ve chosen OV.

Well, even if the majority agree with pets, make sure your pet will not take a step into my land area, or you will be very very sorry.

Can funeral being done in OV? This is serious question i believe :).
Don’t say to me funeral ceremony also cannot done in there !

@hybr1d3d
for GnG project, too many house units definitely hard to control ‘everything’, i stay in GnG, only 48 units face many problem & issue such as: pet, common use of public area, car parking, air-con water paip etc etc. Most house buyers in M’sia not ‘mature’ enough to understand rules & regulations of GnG therefore create some problems, most owners think himself before thinking of others or do whatever they like because they think it is my house…in summary, developer play very important role to educate each owner about common rules must follow in GnG.

AhPeng :
Can funeral being done in OV? This is serious question i believe .
Don’t say to me funeral ceremony also cannot done in there !

“8.0 FUNERAL SERVICES / CEREMONY
No funeral services or ceremony or other religious ceremony shall be permitted to be held in any of the three storey terrace house / three storey semi-detached house / three storey bungalow or within the common property without the prior consent of the vendor or the management”

– Deed of Mutual Convenants

Why didn’t ban no smoking in OV

@Orange Juice

From the info, seems like it mean “CAN” be done but need to get consent from developer/management first. This is good at least developer/management show some humanity in this case. If funeral ceremony not allowed in OV too, then really no freedom staying in there. . Thanks Orange Juice for the update !

AhTu….. If we install lift, every month lift maintenance fee is it included in our maintenance fee ?…….

Not included in the monthly maintenance.

just saw flyer from OV. “ORANGE VILLA SHOW HOUSE LAUNCH” 14 – 15 April 2012 10am – 7pm
Light Refreshment will be served from 11am – 3pm .
On the flyer, it states Spacious Master bedroom with walk-in wardrobe.

got the sms just now, yes this Saturday and Sunday is the open day

link to flyer —–>>>>>

http://tahwah.com/images/Eventflyer.pdf

@mega

mega :
@hybr1d3d
for GnG project, too many house units definitely hard to control ‘everything’, i stay in GnG, only 48 units face many problem & issue such as: pet, common use of public area, car parking, air-con water paip etc etc. Most house buyers in M’sia not ‘mature’ enough to understand rules & regulations of GnG therefore create some problems, most owners think himself before thinking of others or do whatever they like because they think it is my house…in summary, developer play very important role to educate each owner about common rules must follow in GnG.

Come on, developer is not your mom or your teacher. Self discipline is built since young age. In order to educate, we need strict people like Winnie to kick start and build the JMC.

By the way, don’t understand or reluctant to cooperate is just an excuse and we shouldn’t tolerate with.

Anyway, I hope if OV owners have the wealth to purchase an unit and the wealth of mindset to follow the regulations established.

@AhPeng
i recall i did ask developer this funeral question long time ago lor…n according to developer, can do la but nid to inform the mgmt office first la…haha..everyone sure will die 1 la no matter u r young or old ma…bo pantang la..this question is similar like doing wedding ceremony in orange vila lor..i think should b can oso la…haha..if funeral or weeding kena ban there..then hmm..i think really not make sense liao lor…haha..

@V@gmal.my
of course ur house eh lift maintenance fees kena pay sendiri la since the lift is inside ur house ma…if the lift resided in the club house 1(if hv la) then the maintenance fees will b under our monthly maintenance fees lor..like tis balu make sense ma…hehe

Just-an-oranger :
WinnieWowWow, you have good intention, but you act like samseng. orange villa is not lokap. you pls dun act like this…
even though rear pets is not allowed, but the way you talk is like samseng, no democratic, you just want ppl follow your way..
i just bought a unit, so no need to doubt me tht i am not a buyer

Winnie words might be a bit harsh, but Winnie has her point.
If the owner can follow the rule and negotiable, OV will not be the lock up like you said.
If the owner cannot cope with the basic regulations set by developer (such as no pets allowed) dont even mention about democratic, it’s just self centered people caring for own interest.

AhTu …do you know how much $$$ for the lift maintenance ….? if murah can consider lor……

@V@gmal.my

no ideas lor…i think u can ask developer kua ..since they help install it ma..i thnk they should know how much is the fees lor.. install lift nid around 98k lor ..how lam lor..where to korek such $$$ lor..hehe..if we not install the lift, then we nid to think + liao ..that is use the staircase everyday can help improve our health too ma..haha..

AhTu….. Rm98k had to pay cash ah……… or paid monthly installment ……..

@V@gmal.my
if not mistaken, can lump it into the bank loan too lor…but it is good to double confirm with the bank that u r getting loan lor…i heard if want to install lift, the SnP will b different as standard SnP le..cause if want lift, it nid to be mentioned in ur SnP too lor..hehe..anyway it is good to double confirm with developer on this stuffs lor if u plan to install lift in ur unit lor..hehe..

Thank…..
AhTU… this saturday OV show house launch are you coming……..?

@V@gmal.my

sure will go la…to give support to tah wah n also our orange vila ma..hehe..

AhTU…..good…… my family member & friends also come to see our OV show house…..hehe

We should set a time to intro our self ….. i would like to know who is my future good jiran … AhTu, Grace, OrangeJuice, TanPek, hybr1d3d, penang bmw, v@gmal.my, chin.
Let say, Sun 12pm Noon, not sure got refreshment not?

WinnieWowWow :
We should set a time to intro our self ….. i would like to know who is my future good jiran … AhTu, Grace, OrangeJuice, TanPek, hybr1d3d, penang bmw, v@gmal.my, chin.
Let say, Sun 12pm Noon, not sure got refreshment not?

I guess we can’t wait until Sunday, all people are too eager to see the show house, I propose Saturday.

Sunday can also, for second round ..

Ok, Sat time ? May be afternoon after lunch.

WinnieWowWow :
We should set a time to intro our self ….. i would like to know who is my future good jiran … AhTu, Grace, OrangeJuice, TanPek, hybr1d3d, penang bmw, v@gmal.my, chin.
Let say, Sun 12pm Noon, not sure got refreshment not?

Light Refreshment will be served from 11am – 3pm .

Say, 2.00 pm? Still can enjoy the refreshment at that time ..earlier we also can, weather not so hot, but some of us might need to work half day morning ..

i like 2pm. Sat or Sun. make sure dont bring doggy huh !!

@WinnieWowWow
Winnie, I’m planning to go Saturday wor, Sunday might need to help my fren.
u coming on saturday?

@hybr1d3d
Hi All, what is the confirm date to meet?

@Grace
Saturday 2.00 PM

Anyone need the 2nd round on Sunday ?

i will pin a red rose on my shirt. do observe this …. ha

haha ok see u guys 2 pm this sat

hi, i m new buyer here…went to site this week, the exterior color painted at show house closet to dark green color making our house looks more to a four storey apartment. A bit regret when saw the painted color, due to no combination of color for intermediate unit, it make the whole outlook of the house not contrast at all. .

hi, i’m also a new buyer here. went to site this afternoon. I think I regret buying the house. Color not match, poor workmanship, staircase, toilet dark and etc. The developer said nothing can be change now as S&P has been signed, design has been approved and developer said they cannot statisfy everybody needs. Foreign worker, what to expect for better workmanship. Developer said will try to improve the workmanship. Everything is written black & white in papers. If you want to withdraw, I need to find my own buyer. The guard said taman ini cantik tapi banyak buyer very choosy, belum siap sudah complaint. Tinggal sini susah loh dengan jiran-jiran macam ini … boleh gaduh banyak-banyak

@lost
how poor is the workmanship? a lot of hypes for this projects…maybe is too over rated…
somehow the guard is quite true, see this forum also know already…developer also pening kepala..

look carefully at the wall – you see like something floating. one more thing is the internal road are very narrow. the developer said — standard G&G road 24ft . . just imagine, driving a BMW into such a narrow road. when neighbours have visitor, visitor car will park everywhere — can’t imagine — need to find a buyer for myself but people said to sell such expensive house is BM are very very difficult. Funeral must be held somewhere else . . cannot be in the house . .

i bought the house because of swimming pool and not because of G&G. I just realised in BM, there are many better taman that only have guarded facility and the buyer have all the freedom to do what they want

@lost
just wonder who said to u funeral cannot be in there? if u check back the deed of the mutual agreement, funeral service or ceremony can be there but u nid to get the consent from developer/mgmt first la…hehe..

about the visitor cars might park everywhere, if u read the deed of mutual agreement that u had signed during signing SnP time, u sure will find one clause on clamping the car that si sua park in the orange vila eh area lor…hehe..

for the guard eh comment on this part –> “The guard said taman ini cantik tapi banyak buyer very choosy, belum siap sudah complaint. Tinggal sini susah loh dengan jiran-jiran macam ini … boleh gaduh banyak-banyak”…my view is if tunggu sampai siap then balu complaint, then a bit late liao lor….till that time, complaints pun tak boleh jalan liao lor..hehe

@lost
how much do you want to let o your unit?? please leave your contact, i will help to get buyer..

@lost In my postbox today, Ah Pek received a brochure from OV. Wah! sangat sui loh…..Roof top can design into such hall…Wah….it is really that we buy 3 1/2 storey and 1/2 garden….4 story all together. Ah Pek also received BM Utama eh brochure…3 story niah…from RM 518,000…no swimming pool….so remote…which one is better? Lu compare sendiri lah…

@lost
1 thing u r right is that de road is veri-veri narrowlah. 24″ from car porch to opposite car porch…Type B sure boh hong eh….hehe….if u look out from master bedroom and opposite oso look out from master bedroom….veri nearlah…no need ‘look far mirror’ (sory donno how to say…Wang Yean Chin) also can see veri clear wat r they doing…no privacy….type A still ok lah… This is a potential problem. Developer need to plant more trees to hide lah….

funeral also need people agreeement/consent, like that cannot lar…english dunno how to say, chinese people call “shuo bu guo qu”….

@AhTu
wah, OV like MPPP already can clamp people car…curious if got people visiting then car need to park where?maybe can ask tuo che jie help you guys clamp and pull cars out from OV…

@Tan Pek
just by comparing brochures do not represent anything…cantik or not cantik depends on people judgment la…i somehow agree with you for the narrow road…opposite house can see you taking shower…haha

AhTu :
@lost
just wonder who said to u funeral cannot be in there? if u check back the deed of the mutual agreement, funeral service or ceremony can be there but u nid to get the consent from developer/mgmt first la…hehe..
about the visitor cars might park everywhere, if u read the deed of mutual agreement that u had signed during signing SnP time, u sure will find one clause on clamping the car that si sua park in the orange vila eh area lor…hehe..
for the guard eh comment on this part –> “The guard said taman ini cantik tapi banyak buyer very choosy, belum siap sudah complaint. Tinggal sini susah loh dengan jiran-jiran macam ini … boleh gaduh banyak-banyak”…my view is if tunggu sampai siap then balu complaint, then a bit late liao lor….till that time, complaints pun tak boleh jalan liao lor..hehe

Support Ah Tu, if you don’t complaint now, it will be too late
My suggestion, buyers meet this Saturday, gather the idea, make conclusion then complaint to dev

i smell trolls from competitors here….
anyway, like ah tu said, if dont complaint now, later will be too late d

the only timing we can change is when developer havent get half of their payment

jerry = lost …….. suddenly pop up ……. they will quietly leave this site …. hahahaha

When we visited palm Villa last time, driving through the 24 ft one-way road did not really make us feel bad about the narrow road, as there’s no individual metal gate blocking the sights and we can see through everyone ‘s car porch, of course wider better but it is not too bad either, it feels more like inside a kampung environment.

jerry :@AhTu wah, OV like MPPP already can clamp people car…curious if got people visiting then car need to park where?maybe can ask tuo che jie help you guys clamp and pull cars out from OV…

i really like clamping car eh rules, if not ppl eh car suka suka park here n there n manacai blocking other ppls eh car oso then no good la…staying in the GnG defintely need a rules la…if no rules or not jaga baik baik the rules that already agreed by majority of the residents there or developer/mgmt not strict to enfore the agreed rules, then hv that rules in GnG for what lor…oso will waste Malaysia eh goverment eh time to draft that standard deed of mutual agreement for house with strata title ma…hehe… of course some rules can be debated n might nid the consent from majority eh resident lor if majority of them feel the impose rule not make sense in GnG house la….hehe.. if want to stay in a GnG house that the rules are not strictly enforce n follow, later ur GnG eh environment will surely become kanasai lor….haha…so i think for those who would like to stay in a GnG eh concept eh taman but dun want to follow the majority of residents already agreed eh rules, then hmms…better buy individual title eh house lor….GnG sure not gam lu 1 lor…hehe..all GnG with strata title semua same eh –> nid to sign that deed of mutual agreement la…hehe…so b4 u sign it, better ask ur lawyer to explain 1 by 1 the clause/rule that written in there lor….if u ok then balu sign lor….if not ok, then no nid to buy la…simple n easy ma..haha…

@AhTu
individual titles also have deeds of mutual agreement, also have rules and need to setup
JMC too..my question is whether so called standard deeds of mutual agreement for strata titles need mutual consent from jmc for funeral? you still haven’t answer me with roads so narrow where visitors can park their cars? park out side and walk in? like this looks high class leh…seems like OV or any other strata titles are very strict trying to be like singapore…a lot of rules and regulations but really if i am not wrong, funerals do not need other mutual consents over there in singapore…is like you got funeral already then walk to jmc and ask “eh can i do funeral here in OV?”….sounds weird right..i agree with you on clamping car rules somehow since really we normally see a lot of cars simply park here and there…but are you serious about funerals are standard rules in deed of mutual agreement?

@WinnieWowWow
please respect people opinions, if you don’t like malaysia’s democracy you can go to north korea..i believe their leaders there will love you…

@jerry

I seriously don’t know what’s the big fuss about having funerals. It’s not like we have funerals all the time. After all, i am sure the developer and JMC are compassionate individuals who understands its all part and parcel of life. There are better things to talk about eg. quality of materials used, workmanship. As for 24 ft one-way road, i don’t think its a concern because only ONE WAY traffic is allowed and i believe most of my future neighbors are educated people who knows their boundaries and will not cause inconvenience to other people. After all, the sales person did mention there will be additional parking lots beside the fencing wall. Don’t allow petty issues to sway your decision to buy OV.

@Suelynn
I support you

jerry :@AhTu individual titles also have deeds of mutual agreement, also have rules and need to setupJMC too..my question is whether so called standard deeds of mutual agreement for strata titles need mutual consent from jmc for funeral? you still haven’t answer me with roads so narrow where visitors can park their cars? park out side and walk in? like this looks high class leh…seems like OV or any other strata titles are very strict trying to be like singapore…a lot of rules and regulations but really if i am not wrong, funerals do not need other mutual consents over there in singapore…is like you got funeral already then walk to jmc and ask “eh can i do funeral here in OV?”….sounds weird right..i agree with you on clamping car rules somehow since really we normally see a lot of cars simply park here and there…but are you serious about funerals are standard rules in deed of mutual agreement?

halo Jerry, this is my first time i heard on individual title kena sign deed of mutual agreement juga lor..hehe..but if individual title oso hv to sign deed of mutual agreement, then i really not understand liao what is the purpose to sign that agreement for the house having individual title,…feel a bit not make sense for the house owner that having individual title but kena sign deed of mutual agreement…hehe..

For the nid to get consent from mgmt office on funeral ceremony, if u think deeply why such rule need to impose in GnG community, then u might agree with that rule too la…my view is that this is bcause when got funeral ceremony time, surely will got lot of ur frens n ur sibling or ur e ma ku chair come to pay the last respect to their belove person(here mean wang seng ren or dead person lor)….hehe..if mgmt not get notified on the ceremony such as funeral or wedding, it might cause lot of issues later on such as security issues or car parking issues or …hehe….the rest of the issues u can think it by urself liao la.hehe..

For the 24ft narrow road issues, i did gave my view on it previously liao, so lazy to comment to u again when u raised it ..if not mistaken i commented when Tan Pek raised that issue ..hehe.. anyway summary is the land near song ban kheng road is like a gold or berlian la.. developer will not waste every single piece of its land when they know the located land is tatt lui like gold n berlian la…this is expected 1 la..haha..

singapore can be on the top world listing in term of economy, nice place to stay is because of its strictly imposed rules ma….if singapore eh rules nua nua 1 n ppl there not fully follow the rules, then i’m sure it will not like it be as of today lor..the country will b si sua liao lor….hehe..si bo?

thanks suelynn for the info on additional car parks but is this stated in the any of the agreement? to confirm they will build those car parks?..my thinking why funeral needs to be in the clause of deeds mutual of agreement? since all so compassionate then no need agreement for others already…ah tu, now you said just need management notificaition but from your previous note need mutual consents from JMC? This big difference over here, notify and need other mutual consents are different…I hope you mean the same thing…sorry i did not see your comments on song ban kheng like gold and berlian posts because there are so many comments over here…i just read through those latest posts…and ah tu, individual titles actually have deeds of mutual agreement too this is what my friend told me about his new house…because it is guarded and have facilities inside…of course the rules are not as strict as strata title standard deeds of mutual agreement lar…haha

and individual title can form a JMC too and it is required in my friend’s deeds of mutual agreement that JMC needs to be formed after OC have been maintained…this is what i know of and i am looking at different projects to know the different..it seems to me now like no much different already except strata title deeds of mutual agreement more strict lor…and to me your so called malaysia goverment standard deeds of mutual agreement which includes funeral thing might not true lor….maybe can check lar but if i am not wrong there is no law to really govern deeds of mutual agreeement one….

@jerry

ya lor..i mean same things here la..notify = consent, if u notify liao but u cannot get consent from them, then really nid to know what are the reason funeral cannot make in there liao…fyi – i ever asked developer on whether can do funeral in there bo last time, the answer is yes from developer la…if u feel doubt on this matter, u can ask developer again la..i hope they will give u the same answer like wat they answered me previously lor…haha..if they said cannot do it, then i think we nid to pay serious attention on this funeral issues liao..that time, we can talk this issues here if the developer said cannot do it le..hehe

kam xia for the info on ur fren eh house lor, i did commented on guarded only scheme previously…hehe…i hope ur fren eh taman eh resident can fully follow the deed of mutual agreement that they hv signed lor…if u plan to buy the guarded only scheme, u nid to ensure that the surrounding of the taman eh empty land cannot be developed liao, if not, then later on the other developer come in n developed the side land there n buka jalan n make their taman tong to ur fren eh taman, then ur fren eh deed of mutual agreement no use liao if this is happening in future lor.. so better think deeply n kua betul betul the location if u plan to buy guarded only scheme project lor…u c juru height there then u will know what i mean liao..hehe…

@Jerry,
if u hv free time, u can search lot of info on what r the differences between individual title n strata title la…they got differences 1 la..if not, y got 2 types of titles ma….i dun think our goverment free quo tao n come out that 2 titles lor…if both titles make no differences, then they can just come out 1 title only for all housing project ma..hehe

I’m staying in Palm Villa. 24ft road is not a problem if you have 2 cars. if you have 3 cars and the 3rd car cannot fit into your porch area, and you park behind your 2 cars then it will cause inconvenience for your opposite neighbour who have big cars and wants to reverse out. Solution: always park your car facing out when return home so that if your neighbour park his 3rd car infront of the road, then you can go out easily. Actually those house unit that is near to visitor car park has advantage in a sense visitors coming to your house can park their car more easily and walk to your house.

Ken (Admin) :Perhaps I can help to explain some
Many are confused what is the different between G&G and Guarded only. I have actually posted an official guideline from Selangor housing the property board. I believed they are more or less the same for Penang. (If I remember correctly, the internal access road minimum width requirement in Penang is 24ft)
https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/06/guidelines-for-development-of-gated-community/
There is actually no conversion of individual title to G&G. For individual title housing scheme, you can put a guard house in a taman as long as approval is granted by authorities, but physical perimeter fencing is prohibited. However, there are developers who are innovative and smart enough to create “natural” fencing. Such plants, river, hills and etc.
Setia Pearl Island is a typical example. You don’t see physical fencing. But they cut the hill into such a way that you won’t be able to go into the taman unless you climb through the hill slope.
Southbay residence is a G&G, that’s why you see perimeter fencing around the housing area.
In a G&G, the land is own by a body corporate (JMB). As long as you got their consent, then you can renovate per plan. The reason to control is to make sure there is no unreasonable renovation. Prior to getting the strata title, the JMB may strictly prohibit you from renovating your house to avoid any complication in strata title application.
When you sign your S&P, the developer might give you a copy of the house rules. It will tells you the do’s & don’ts. Most developers will have very strict rules, including exterior painting, windows frames, main door and even the house number plate.
Hopefully this clarify some of your doubts.
By the way, glad to see you guys can meet each other here

fyi.

@Palm Villa

kam xia for the good suggestion on parking car..hehe…but i think orange vila can park 3 cars in the car porch lor since its car porch width is 22ft ma plus if looking on its car porch eh tiang design too…hehe.. if park hor hor, sure can masuk 3 biji cars there lor…hehe

thanks ah tu…and also penang bmw on the information…

@AhTu
look like i cannot pindah to OV. I got old people stay with me. If I tell them, die cannot put there, sure they will curse at me. Usually at weekend, friends, my brothers and sisters family will visit us (at least 3-4 cars) — so where to park car. if kena clamp, next time, no friend will come liao or maybe will quarrel with neighbour on parking issue .. I si liao bcos i signed without understanding the clause …

today wear black “Peace Walker” t-shirt there, 1pm, i think this is how we gather…

Went there. Corner house veri sui. I think at least RM 1mil. Other show house workmanship so so niah. But at least no need to renovate bath rooms. Satisfy with bath rooms, just add a glass partition for shower, perfect liao. Aircon very urgly. Need to cover by plaster ceilling. If standard unit come with aircon paip?

Nice to meet @hybr1d3d at show house today, didn’t see anyone wearing red rose …