@AhTu AhTu, wa lau eh.. Your inglish veri deep water…

@AhTu

Thanks for your translation, I am not testing you la… I am english add ma……
That’s correct this is what we all want to hear ma……..

CR…….. go and see Palm Villas house & Orange Villa site and than make decision.

The two show units almost completed as we the site today, floor tiles, wall painting already done. No door and windows yet, staircase also no hand rail yet, kind of dangerous to walk inside, feel slippery to walk on the grossy finished floor tiles. The corner unit is renovated in such.a way that second floor front facing room’s wall is removed to become living room. The staircase spacing is a bit tight we worry that king Size bed might have difficulty to move up to higher floor. The renovated corner unit also change the ground floor room, probably change into a dinning area( I guess).

@OrangeJuice

You mean staircase narrow..? if got 4ft wide is still ok lor…….

@Orange Juice
Hi, Orange Juice, can post the photos????

Hahaha ….. glad to have neibor like this Mr Pig (AhTu) with us …… hahaha …….
What to organize a gathering among those in this forum?

CR,
As you can see palm villas price up to date still increasing, if you buy now in future you won’t regret ……..cos raja uda now is already a golden land…palm villas price won’t drop although the house is old.

Go for Orange Villa as the develope have learn enough from Palm Villa.

@Orange Juice
Did you snap any photos? They allow you to enter the house while contruction still ongoing. How is the quality of the workmanship? Can’t wait to see the sample house.

@Orange Juice
Did you snap any photos during your visit? Is the workmanship and materiasl used are good in quality? Cant wait to see the show house…

@WinnineWow

Good suggestion……. all of us can form JMC than appoint AhTu to be our chairman……….
AhTu ok ka…………?

@Peng An
is hard to see the real quality of workmanship in show houses

@V@gmal.my
I think about three ft width only. Not only the width, the head room too, its the overal spacing, just sufficient to walk only, but to move six ft king size bed, imagine you have to turn the bed to move it up along the staircase, it might be difficult. This is more obvious at the corner unit equipped with home lift. As the lift has wall around the staircase, when the king size bed is in between two walls behind the lift, how to turn corner?

Purchaser Association first ….. at this stage. Later got OC, only form JMC …. AhTu, u ok not as chairman? V@gmal, u become Secretary ……

if u suggest me WowWow to be Treasurer … i dont mind …. hahaha

@WinnieWowWow
i wanna be the security

was in the site yesterday… the workers are rushing to complete the sample house for the next opening on 21,22,23 April if my memory serve me well. one of the sample unit interior design work is on going as i see from outside.

i am trying to go inside the unit to see it myself.. but .. was advised by the KAPALA not to enter.. so i only manage to peek from outside.. overall the progress and workmanship look ok by naked eyes…

one more thing is the fundamental work for the row 19 to 44 are visible. so any bro or sis should get trigger from bank to start to serve interest lo….

@OrangeJuice
If like this we had on choice…..so to be very careful lor….. to move our furniture up.

@WinnieWow
I don’t want to be secretary…………I just want to be a good neibor only la……..

Workmanship I think is OK. Walls are flat not wavy, but u know la, show house of course.more strict for quality. One more thing that we noticed is the cable trunkings is laying like spider web at the non-corner Unit ‘s ceiling space, purchasers obviously have no choice but to install plaster ceiling to cover those ugly exposed cabling. And one of the toilets they have one -piece type wc delivered on site not yet installed, this is a positive point , at least it will be a nice looking toilet.

@WinnieWow,

If you want to be Treasurer is ok, I can appoint you…..

The floor tiles looks like 2.5 x 2.5 ft at corner unit, kind of big size.

The second renovated with dark blue walls, black floor tiles, all black wall and floor toilet, looks very dark. Probably it is a karaoke hall or something like pub design.

Snapped some photos but too troublesome to post photos here.

@OrangeJuice

Now you saw is the show house is not completed yet ma……wait till it completed with decoration & furnish than we go and see lor…..surely it look different and beautiful wan………..

yes lor….. wait for the show house completed first……
for me I don’t like to go inside to see the uncompleted show house if see surely got many comment and also not safety to be inside………

@WinnieWowWow n @V@gmal.my

kam xia ..kam xia.. if u plan to nominate me as chairman…hehe…i think still too early to talk on who should b the chariman, secretary, treasurer or security lor….hehe…this need to go thru proper election and voting process ma…orange vila is oso a democracy community ma.. but i’m glad when hear u all hv this mindset in place n volunteered to become JMC’s members lor…nice 1…hehe..

@Orange Juice
if i not mistaken, the width of the stair case is around 3.8-3.9 inchi..not 3 inchi lor….but i not measured it la….just guessing nia…hehe.. n if u plan to move king size bed to 1st or 2nd floor, normally furnish workers not move the furniture as a whole to upstair 1 le, u can ask them to separate it out first n move it piece by peice first lor, n then transform it balik to become king size bed when it is in upstair liao ma..hehe..

typo..should b the length of the staircase..not width …hehe..pai sei pai sei..

sigh !! typo again…should b 3.8-3.9 ft…not in inchi …if in inchi..really how lam liao..haha

So AhTu you went to the site today?

@Orange Juice

not today…i went to the site last few weeks ago…hehe..

@Ken (Admin)
I already emailed you. Thanks.

once the show house is ready, most of the good location will be sold. Like Sactuary garden by IJM, 40% already sold – their show house only ready by May 2012

The roof partition wall is quite low, climbing over is piece of cake for an adult. So next time visit orange neighbours from roof also can. Maybe need to install a door bell at roof too.

@Orange Juice
can’t wait to take measurement so i can start to think of the interior design…

Look at the photo staircase picture 3ft or 3/5ft wide only lor………AhTu correct or not..?

@AhTu

In my opinion, I do agreed that it is too early to talk about forming a JMC at this moment but it is about time to establish a ” Purchaser Committee” instead! There are buyers may not be able to visualise how’s the structure/layout/building materials used until the show house is completed, by then, I am sure there will be lots of comments n feedback based on the building specs. The committe will represent buyers dealing with the developer to make sure our interest are protected and they deliver the quality house for us. The developer will only take our comments seriously n rectify accordingly if we as buyers be co-operative n show combined efferts. In other words, JMC, Treasurer..may not be required but Chairman for Purchaser Association / Committe is neccessary. Any OV buyers can be the members of the OV purchaser association n one person can be the chairman ( I vote Ah Tu), vice chairman n secretary..

All OV buyers, how is it?

For houses at this price, it shall be top quality material used and high standard workmanship. The sales told us that air-conditioning drain pipe will not be provided, that means purchasers have to ask renovation contractor to hack the wall to lay PVC drain pipe, and connect to nearest toilet floor trap or drain. If the aircond drain pipe has to go toilet, probably the floor tiles of toilet need to be hacked too, which will damage the water proofing of toilet floor. If it is intermediate unit terrace that need to install an aircond unit at living hall, how to connect it’s drain pipe to drain? Hack all the way to back of the house, j

And the drain is covered underground. I think it will be a massy works, just for installation of aircond. However for the show units, both do have the pipe laid, I am not sure if the developer has changed their mind. If otherwise it is only for show units only, I think purchasers association has to voice to ask for it, the pipe is cheap yet the renovation work involved is massive.

The developer is marketing the houses here as high end product, we purchaser therefore must have high exception on the quality. I am sure there will be more comments on their design, the architect might not see some design problem, particularly small small details, until the mockup unit is completely constructed. I agree @ Orange manic to form purchaser association to write a lot of complaints to developers based on what we found on the show house. While the remaining units still under construction, we still can ask for improvement and minor changes that do not affect the building of application.

“Building oc application” Typo for last sentence.

Haha, another typo, ” high expectations on the quality ” first sentence. I also vote AhTu chairman, the soonest we act the better, it will take time for developer to consider our suggestion and comments. An extra cost of RM 100 multiply by 140 unit it is RM 14k to them. We don’t want developer to reply us that it is already too late to impose certain changes.

It will be interesting question to ask developer on how their workers move a king size bed up to the first and second floor, when they have completed the furniture of the show unit. So we just wait and see.

I suggest those who have purchased and signed snp , come meet together at the site this weekend Sunday as most people don’t work on that day, and expected the show house will be more completed for us to view and comment for first round.

@Orange Juice

I agree with u on the aircon paip eh stuffs lor..i think it is good if developer can help buyer to install the air con paip before they put on the simen wall,…so that they buyer no nid to ask external contractor to hack the wall for aircon paiping installation later on le….hack n repaint the wall will cost a lot of $$$$ too n sometime repaint the wall with simen will make the wall looks bo sui too…

@orange manic n @V@gmal.my n @WinnieWowWow n
@Orange Juice

For the Chairman of purchaser association post, first thanks Q for voting me as chairman le but i think i’m not interested in this post lor..haha…this post really nid a person who hv experiences dealing with developer n buyer lor….hmm, i ‘ve kosong experience in this post lor…if dealing wrongly n cannot fulfilling buyer’s needs, i think chairman can become “chear mei(mata buta lor)” cause the Chairman’s eye kena hit by chair that throw by buyer n oso developer due to bei song to Chairman….hahahaha….

but i think u all posted the good suggestion on the forming of the Purchaser Association first, n if if someone wanted to hold the chairman post, then it is good lor…but if nobody want to hold the chairman post, then no nid chairman liao, we all as the buyer can become a joint chairman so that when developer throw “chairs” to us, all our mata will become “chea mia” too ma..haha… in malay this is call “berat sama dipikul, ringan sama dijinjing” ma….in mandarin – “yu nan tong tang” ma….rite? hahaha…

not sure y my comment kena this msg –> “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” so i rewrite it separately here lor…

@Orange Juice
I agree with u on the aircon paip eh stuffs lor..i think it is good if developer can help buyer to install the air con paip before they put on the simen wall,…so that they buyer no nid to ask external contractor to hack the wall for aircon paiping installation later on le….hack n repair back the wall n repaint it will cost a lot of $$$$ too n sometimes repair the wall with simen will make the wall looks bo sui too…did u highlight this to developer liao?

@orange manic n @V@gmal.my n @WinnieWowWow n @Orange Juice

Guys n Girls,
For the Chairman of purchaser association post, first thanks Q for voting me as chairman le but i think i’m not interested in this post lor..haha…this post really nid a person who hv experiences dealing with developer n buyer lor….hmm, i ‘ve kosong experience in this post lor…if dealing wrongly n cannot fulfilling buyer’s needs, i think chairman can become “chair mei(mata buta lor)” cause the Chairman’s eye kena hit by chair that throw by buyer n oso developer due to bei song to Chairman….hahahaha….

but i think u all posted the good suggestion on the forming of the Purchaser Association first, n if someone wanted to hold the chairman post, then it is good lor…but if nobody want to hold the chairman post, then no nid chairman liao, we all as the buyer can become a joint Chairmans so that when developer or buyer throw “chairs” to us, all our mata will become “chair mei” too ma..haha… in malay this is call “berat sama dipikul, ringan sama dijinjing” ma….in mandarin – “yu nan tong tang” ma….rite? hahaha…

Orange Juice :I suggest those who have purchased and signed snp , come meet together at the site this weekend Sunday as most people don’t work on that day, and expected the show house will be more completed for us to view and comment for first round.

I raise my arm n leg for your good suggestion n totally agreed with what u said..the sooner the better to form a purchaser committee as now is still in the preliminary stage of construction so certains issues could still be rectified with the developers. All OV owners should make an effort to make it happen! Owners who comes from legal, construction, property, etc background as well as former JMC members are most welcome coz your expertise is very much needed! of course, all OV owners are welcome too coz every single valid comments are valued in order to turn our hard-earned money to a good property value of OV, It’s all on our own hand!

I m the 1st to join. Who’s next?? Come on, don’t let it stops here…all owners!

I am fine with this Saturday, Let’s fix the time for meeting up?

@orange manic

Just realised that u suggested to meet up on Sunday. But I think there should be lots of people going for “Ching Ming” this Sunday. Unless the meeting can be arranged on later afternoon after 5pm onwards..or Saturday late afternoon (as some people need to work half day on Sat)..I follow majority..

Orange Juice :I suggest those who have purchased and signed snp , come meet together at the site this weekend Sunday as most people don’t work on that day, and expected the show house will be more completed for us to view and comment for first round.

Just realised that u suggested to meet up on Sunday. But I think there should be lots of people going for “Ching Ming” this Sunday. Unless the meeting can be arranged on later afternoon after 5pm onwards..or Saturday late afternoon (as some people need to work half day on Sat)..I follow majority..

just went to the site n i think the show house/unit is around 75-80% completed now. So far looks good n the quality of workmanship looks Ok too but anyway here’re few suggestions that i think developer need to take into consideration, hope developer oso ada come to this web site lor and c our valueable suggestion to them lor.we oso want them to be successful in their first residential project too ma…hehe:

Here are my views n suggestions anyway:
1. DarkKhaki or more towards the dark green/yellow color painted on the exterior building – i felt too much of darkkhaki color on exterior building liao lor…too much of this color will make the whole building looks more dinginess n pale later on…
suggestion: if possible, developer should add in the light orange color to some parts of exterior building such as its side lining n so on .. since this GnG called orange vila ma..should hv some orange color to its building lor..hehe..with some light orange color painted, i believe the bulding will looks more fresher n lighter…

2. the tile texture road in front of the show house – so far only one color for the tiles texture road which looks like a dark grey color to me..
Suggestion: since the road will b filled with tile texture road, then i think it will looks more nicely n beautifuly if developer can fill up with 2 colors(at least) on its tile texture road, design it with that 2 color of tile..may b add in the DarkRed tiles n design it with the existing dark grey color tile.

3. i agree with Orange Juice’s comment on the narrow staircase on it width n length. The staircase looks a bit narrow to me too, i think its length is around 3.5-3.6ft nia….may b developer want to save the place for the lift i think. if not, i’m wondering y developer build narrow staircase lor..narrow staircase will make the internal of the house looks not veli grand ma…
suggestion: it is good if the length n the width of the staircase can be wider a bit…at least should hv 4ft lor…will looks grand n easy to step on too ma.,..hehe

4. The tile used in the show unit’s bathrooms are 1ftx2ft tile, but just filled up with one color only. normally one color of tiles will make the bathroom looks so so nia lor….a bit pale too with single color without any designs.
suggestion: 1ftx2ft tile looks good but if developer can add in one more color n design it a bit with that color, then surely will make our bathrooms looks more grand n beautiful lor…hehe

5. Single small window on the side wall at the roof top – putting just a single small window there can help much in term of to make the area of the roof top brighter…it can just help a bit nia lor if we talk on the amount of sun light that will coming thru that single small window lor… besides, one small single window make our side wall of roof top looks a bit weird too..hehe
Suggestion: it is good if developer can buka 3 windows instead of just 1 window there lor..with 3 windows there, it will looks more balance cause our side wall is bigger/large wall ma.. if insist just can have one window there, then can make that single window more bigger ma, i mean in term of the length of that window…at least should balance up with our roof top eh side wall la… 3 windows sure will make our roof top more brighter n ada hong masuk into our roof top if we buka 3 windows later on…can release the sun hit too ma…haha

6. Agreed with Orange Juice’s comment on developer should take into consideration on aircon paiping stuffs lor…if can, i oso dun want to hire external contructor to hack n repair back n repaint my wall just for aircon paiping installation later on…hehe

that’s all first…….

Hi KAT,

Please take owner’s input into consideration before it was too late to improve.

Perhaps the narrow staircase issue is more critical for unit installed with home lift, as this will involve changes in the staircase design and the relevant building structure itself.

I think developer shall listen to this problem, and fix this as soon as possible, as buyers are paying nearly extra 100K for the lift and deserved the quality design.

@Ken (Admin)

halo Ken, i think developer is correct in this case as the show house is still under construction n not open for public viewing yet..i think developer may want to make it as a fresh view to public when show house is ready later on…if lot of interior design pictures are “leaking” in this site, then will be no more fresh n surprise to new or existing buyer liao during public viewing later on….so i think it is good to delete the pictures especially having interior design one lor …hehe… n for picture with exterior building..i think no harm to leave it there lor cause anyone can take those picture from the site or from the back of MPSP or front of the chinese kampung there lor…hehe..so what do u think on my view?

@AhTu
Hi Ken,

AhTu was right on the comment to remove those interior photo.

If the developer is “open minded” enough, then shall be joining the dialogue here, and shall not be too worry about the photos here, actually nothing “secret” shown here, why so scare?

As “property talk” website, we shall support freedom of speech and sharing info, and to have constructive input and suggestion to the developer. If this place not allow this, and not allow that, how about forming a facebook group to share info instead of here? If developer is trying to stop one place, another new place will be popped out…

@Orange Juice

i dun think developer is scare here n there and not open-minded lor..hehe…as i mentioned, they may hv their own views on these pictures loaded in this site since the show house is not open for public view yet ma. Personally i agreed with them on this matter la….sometimes we nid to take care other ppls eh feeling too when we’re sharing out the info which we may think is not the sensitive info to us, but who know may b the info is a sensitive info to some parties(developer in this case)….rite?

On the external color, obviously the color has been deviated from the color shown on the brochure or the pictures at top of this page, the artist photos more toward yellowish / earth color, but the actual color become dark khakis as commented by AhTu, yeah it is quite dull, can we have brighter color?

@Ken (Admin) n @Tah Wah developer

good move le ….hehe ! fyi – tah wah also posted the exterior pictures in their web site but their pictures are an old picures liao..hope that tah wah can update their picture so that we all will get the latest pictures on the progress of show house n oso the site progress, the latest picture will surely ease the existing buyer or potential buyer that no time to visit the site lor…since tah wah is reading this blog too, i hope they can take our comments n suggestions into consideration too la….as the buyer, all of us wanted to make orange vila the top n high class GnG in BM ma…as the developer, u oso wanted to get the valuable suggestion n oso wanted to make ur first residential project a very successful project ma…hehe..

One more thing, if you notice, there suppose to have a small green area at there car porch area, and this area is suppose to be without roof covering, allow sunlight and rain to water the small plants there.

It is now turned into a PBA meter, and looks like it is going to be boxed up with bricks. Imagine when it rain, the rain water will drip through the car porch roof opening, then where does the water flow? it will flow any where follow the gravity, and wet PBA meter box and the car porch flooring. Logically, if the green area is omitted, shall the car porch roof small opening to be covered too?

I don think developer will entertain us lah….to add tis add that tukar tis tukar that…extra $ for them mah. One we sign snp, developer will only kira untung berapa, mana ada belanja extra lagi punya hehe….. Tah Wah first project…hehee…hopefuli, they will hearlah…..

Hi all wowwow here ….. Ovilla forum getting warm up and very constructive now.
Glad to see we have high participation from many buyer. Orange Juice, thank for your comment and idea, you are helping us who have not time go to the side due to busy life. I see the picture, kind of very excite that the house internal and external look great.
Below is my comment:
1) External green colour is not good enough, the toning of two colour is not obvious, developer should make it more contrast. Top picture the green clour is very dark, actually i like this colour in their mini sample house.
2) Air-con point should be include to reduce dirthy work in future. Actually this will help developer to manage the garden cleaniness. If every house also hecking, then surrounding will look very dirty.
3) TahWah may not entertain us in this forum. If anyone got time, just feel free to walk into TahWah sale office at Jalan Kampung Raja, ask to meeting the boss, Mr Hoong, have a nice chat and positive feedback. Pls pay respect and tell Hoong have important the success of Orange Villa is to bring up a good image for TahWah as a new player here.
I think Mr Hoong will listen to us.
So, are we meet up on this Sunday afternoon?
We can meet up at Taman Gemilang chicken rice restaurant. Then visit sama sama.

As per Purchaser committee …. i agreed.
Pls count me it also.

Another foreseeable problem will be the kitchen exhaust pipe.

When we visited the site earlier than this, and look from outside, we can see the outside wall still not plastered and covered up. We found that the windows at the back of house is exactly under the concrete structure.

That will become a problem when we want to install a exhaust fan from the stove at kitchen and connect to outside, you can’t drill a hole there ( above windows level) because it is not normal brickwall, you can’t hack it either, you have to use diamond coring( like those people used to robe bank’s safe) on concrete, which may affect the safety of building if the whole block of terrace house, imagine this scenario, every house also need to core a hole, hmm… well, unless you can accept to install the exhaust pipe beside the back windows, but it is quite low and can see a pipe across hanging in the middle of kitchen wall. This weekend go site see the kitchen wall and the windows facing back, and imagine where the exhaust pipe location will be

Do you think the developer will be kind enough and willing to provide a ready PVC pipe sleeve at high level( embedded inside the concrete above window level)? pipe is cheap, again, yet can save a lot of messy renovation work later on.

Sounds like @ winniewow knows developer boss personally quite well, can you be representative of buyers association to talk to him?maybe a few of us can go together.

We must first have a collection of all the opinion and comments, list down problems and ask for the necessary improvements. We all know that since there is a restriction for renovation works externally, we need the house to be a well thought design, so that we can minimize the hacking later due to lacking of those small details.

Can we fix on Sunday afternoon 4pm or 5pm ? After lunch go there very hot ar..
Hopefully no rain that day as it is near Cheng Meng. Show hand who want to join?

Saw a simen box in the picture. Anyone know what are the purpose having a simen box near the side end of the car porch? Is it for PBA meter that claimed by Orange Juice? or a post box? The show house which have interior design supposedly a corner unit, why Tah Wah not placing that simen box at the extra land of the corner unit instead ? Our cars might hit that simen box later on when drive into car porch.

For the air-con point & piping better install our own lor…..for me I want to install by my own , cos when I do renovation & decorate my house so that which place is more suitable for my air-con lor…..some other buyer may be not like the place which developer had installed…..that why developer didn’t provide for us ma….. if ask for air-con point & piping may be developer will charge $$$……

@AhTu
You comment and want to suggest add orange colour , extra window, extra wider staircase and this and that……..it it possible for the developer to change the layout plan……? If can good lor……..

pls dont suggest funny thing …. if chg colour, pls provide drawing to show it ….. to me, orange colour is good but if use it wromg place, will make thing look very bad ……… and colour will be very contrast !! Pls stop, but p[rovide drawing, i think admin may help us to post it.

I believe I am the one who complained the outdoor paint color when the miniature completed. but hey, it wasn’t so bad judging with Orange Juice’s photo

To me it’s acceptable for now, but will go to site inspect myself.

@Superman
Go site and see yourself..water pipe standing up from the ground..they put brick wall surround it, no PBA meter yet, of course, but it is ready for the meter installation.

@V@gmal.my There shall be 8 nos. of air-cond points will be provided according to the specs in S&P. If the air-cond points already there, why not the drain pipe provided at the same location? You see the logic?

@V@gmal.my n @kenny

this is just the suggestion nia…if u all dun agree with my suggestion then u all can raise yours oso..nothing is wrong or correct here n oso not sure developer will take my suggestion seriously or not…..hehe…the building color looks dull, this is for sure, pls go to the site and c it lor… i like the Carrisa Vila n BM utama(3 storey phase 3) eh building color lor..they’ve combination of 3 colors total all, their color veli contrast n brighter if compare to our orange vila eh building color. i did called up tah wah this morning n raised my concern n my suggestions to the sales person. i hope tah wah will take my suggestion(1 to 6) into their consideration. For the bulding color, if tah wah plan to change the existing color, i’m sure their designer will hv better ideas than us on how to make the building looks more contrast n brighter ;-).. we’r not designer, but what we can telll them is the existing color really looks dull n pale…..putting an orange color is just the suggestion nia…this color came to my mind after i saw the Carrisa Vila, i think thier color with some orange color looks really nice…hehe…

Looks like AhTu = Superman lor ..good la…hehe..i agree with superman’s view too..

Agree with you AhTu and Superman ! i plan to visit the site this weekend, yet to see the show house ! Buyers, let go to the see the show house !

V@gmal.my :@AhTuYou comment and want to suggest add orange colour , extra window, extra wider staircase and this and that……..it it possible for the developer to change the layout plan……? If can good lor……..

since developer ada monitor this blog, hope they can view our suggestion lor…no harm to suggest ma…rite? hope superman ada called developer lor as what he/she mentioned in this blog lor…superman…ur hokkien style englishi veli good laa..i like it ..really a hokkien culture lor…hehe..

@AhTu No problem. Type faster then need to borrow your “englishi” hokkien style. I agreed with your suggestion on 1 to 6. You are rock here! hmmm…..pai se pai se lor…hehehehe..

Yesterday I went to see the show house. I was disappointed with the ground floor tiles for the actual unit as the colour is too dark and makes the house gloomy. Comparatively I think the tiles used in the show unit is 2 1/2 feet and the colour is so much better. Wonder why tah wah didn’t use plain white or beech colour tiles like most of the developer do as it looks cleaner and brighter. Do agree the external colour looks dull too. Dunno why they choose colours which are not too favourable.

Orange Juice :Sounds like @ winniewow knows developer boss personally quite well, can you be representative of buyers association to talk to him?maybe a few of us can go together.
We must first have a collection of all the opinion and comments, list down problems and ask for the necessary improvements. We all know that since there is a restriction for renovation works externally, we need the house to be a well thought design, so that we can minimize the hacking later due to lacking of those small details.
Can we fix on Sunday afternoon 4pm or 5pm ? After lunch go there very hot ar..Hopefully no rain that day as it is near Cheng Meng. Show hand who want to join?

I was informed by the developer that the site office / show unit will be closed from this Friday onwards for about 2 weeks for ID work. whoever wanted to drop by the site to view the show house this weekend, better call them to find out..

Judging from the comments posted here..Purchaser Association surely a right move n really should form it fast fast. m fine with this Sun – 5pm, anyone wanna join…let’s meet up quick to get our feedback n comments compiled. I dont see much impact to state our comments here until we get it compile n forward to Tah Wah for thier urgent attention before it’s too late.

@OrangeJuice

Yes ah !….. 8 nos air-con point given, than why the drain pipe not provided…….
if some owner don’t want to hack the wall……….then many drain pipes will seem out side the house, it will make OV boh swee liao lor……..

@AhTu
The “developer ” who monitor here might just watch and at the end without any action taken. It has to be the one who can decide what to do to delight their customers. If all the feebacks not channeled to the boss , yhen he might not aware of all the problems, comments, opinions and suggestions listed here at all.

100% agree with your views and suggestion, Ahtu. glad to have u in OV
All, how about phone call “developer” n raise our concern on all the views/suggestion?

About the colour …. let see the show house completed first. Do you all see Penang Botanica CT, SriTanJung Pinang, Nauticalus terrace house? all in white and bright, also look elegence. Our Ovilla have not complete yet. We will see first after the show house completed.
Btw, since the show house going to open, we could do below:
1) We start meeting this week Sun 4pm, then we go to one aircon restaurant at Juru and further chatting and recording our input. We can select one leader or rep and strategize how to form the purchaser committee (do u want it to be register, future it will become JMC candidate).
2) Then we can attn the Show House ceremony ‘ber-ramai-ramai’ and get a congrate and greet to Mr Hoong, Tah Wah Boss and the rep to have a few minute meeting and to submit our purchaser request to him. We need to list down our request and it need to be reasonable and diplomatic to Tah Wah as we purchaser and Tah Wah relation now actually is partner, we both also what Orange Villa to be very success and beautiful.
We all purchaser will feel very proud to have Orange Villa as our home, have a very accomodate developer and of cos we have to ensure Tah Wah also make a good money from this projects. We purchase cannot ‘Win’ all as well.
I, wowwow can do the talking to TahWah boss, but i am no time to do editing work or letter writing work. We still need a good editor or secretaty to do a nice letter with good succession and feedback.
Here, i could OrangeJuice have a potential could pick up the editing work and photo taking work. What do you all think?

StaceyLee, pls see my suggestion above.
Btw, developer is knowing me as WinnieWowWow.

I suggest@ ahTu to write/ edit the diplomatic letter, since we have seen his excellent translation skill in English… I take photos for you no problem

Just worry that they might install door and lock it to prevent buyers to see inside, as mentioned by@ orange manic, then it become a problem. So the time set 4 pm, where to meet first?

AhTu English so Kampung English ….. cannot laaa ….. Juice, you are right person, since you are one of the buyer also complain so much …… you should take lead to do the editing. I can talk to TahWah ….. hey …… dont NATO huh ….. no-action-talk-only …….

We go to the site ….. then we go to one Juru air-con restaurant.
We need to have at least 5-6 person, if only u and me, then forget about it.
So, coming Sunday, 4pm ….
OrangeJuice and WowWow is 1st and 2nd participant, how is other?

Better we suggest ask AhTu to represent all of us to solve all this problem……

V@gmal.my ….. are you joining us or u still want AhTu? If all purchase just like to talk here, then no point we continue to talk but no action.

@WinnieWowWow

this weekend the site office is closed n would not be able to get access to the show unit as I was told by the developer..but we can go ahead to meet up to form the association since there are so many comments highlighted here.

@ az

i agree with you, the tiles colour sucks!!!

Guys n Girls,

i agree with winniewowwow lor..i can’t do editing le as my englishi really kampung eh hokien englishi n kanasai 1…hahahahahaha…. i noticed wowwow n orange juice eh english very hor liao 1…i will vote either one of them to do editing lor….right now i’ll oso same mind with wowwow n vote orange juice as editor since he/she got lot of ideas n good complaints here ? if orange juice tak mau, then wowwow…. hmmm…u should xi sheng a bit as editor liao since ur englishi very good too ma…how is my suggestion this round…ok bo? hehe…

no need to use england la… use hokkien or mandarin to voice up the feedback straight to the point precisely…. just like how Russian write in space with pencil…..

Hi all,

I am glad to see that a lot of the buyers participate actively in this forum and provide a lot of feedback. It is good that the suggestions/proposal can be submitted to Developer (probably they have already known about this).

I do not intend to inject negativity here – but we may need to face the truth that Developer may not do anything to the suggestions. Example, color. I think color is very subjective and it depends on our own taste and preference. Mr A may like this color and Mr B may like that color and it is impossible for Developer to please everyone. I think things that stated in SNP will not be able to change. And also things that will erode developer’s profit won’t be changed too.

Having said that, I believe the move to inform developer on the suggestion is good.
Anyway, try to understand how many buyers are in this forum:
1) WinnieWowWow
2) Ah Tu
3) Chin
4) Orange Manic
5) Orange Juice
6) V@gmal.my
7) Manutd
8) AZ
9) Superman

Look like we have close to 10.

All – pls use this list to edit the list of OV purchaser so that we can track properly.

@manutd

i agree with lu lor on color stuffs things is veli subjective n depend on individual eh taste lor…to me as long as our orange vila eh building looks brighter n contrast, then will b good liao lor…i dun like the buidling color looks dull n pale n not bright n not contrast lor…i went to almost 98.99% show houses on other housing projects in mainland liao..hehe…n i still felt our orange vila eh show house looks dull n pale lor if compare to other project eh show house…hehe…if developer can make the DarkKhakis color more brighter like the one shown in the picture that got swimming pool 1(c top picture at above), then should b good lor..to me, right now the DarkKhakis color that painted in show house a bit am lor…try compare the color in the picture above with the color taken by orange juice kua lor..hehe…one looks dull n one looks bright ma…hehe

manutd :Hi all,
I am glad to see that a lot of the buyers participate actively in this forum and provide a lot of feedback. It is good that the suggestions/proposal can be submitted to Developer (probably they have already known about this).
I do not intend to inject negativity here – but we may need to face the truth that Developer may not do anything to the suggestions. Example, color. I think color is very subjective and it depends on our own taste and preference. Mr A may like this color and Mr B may like that color and it is impossible for Developer to please everyone. I think things that stated in SNP will not be able to change. And also things that will erode developer’s profit won’t be changed too.
Having said that, I believe the move to inform developer on the suggestion is good.Anyway, try to understand how many buyers are in this forum:1) WinnieWowWow2) Ah Tu3) Chin4) Orange Manic5) Orange Juice6) V@gmal.my7) Manutd AZ9) Superman
Look like we have close to 10.
All – pls use this list to edit the list of OV purchaser so that we can track properly.

@manutd
Count me in
10. Grace

Hi all Orange Villa friends,
Any plan to gather to discuss face to face to see what need to be done and some sharing about Orange villa?

cheese :Hi all Orange Villa friends,Any plan to gather to discuss face to face to see what need to be done and some sharing about Orange villa?

Let’s fix on 7-Apr, 8pm at Sunway Starbucks.
See how many can join.

cheese :

cheese :Hi all Orange Villa friends,Any plan to gather to discuss face to face to see what need to be done and some sharing about Orange villa?

Let’s fix on 7-Apr, 8pm at Sunway Carnival Starbucks.See how many can join.

@cheese
We will meet at site this Sunday (1st April) 4 PM, you are welcome to join.

@manutd

To make sure you are the real buyer, please wear the OV polo-shirt. otherwise, bring your SNP along….. lol

@Orange Juice

Count me in on the meeting. Let’s how many people so far has confirmed…
1.WinnieWowWow
2. Orange Juice
3. Orange Manic

Anybody? how about Ah Tu / Chin / manutd / Grace/ V@gmal.my / superman / cheese…….and the rest? The more the better! Don’t just talk talk here and no actionS! I like the way how WinnieWowWow handling the matters – ACtion oriented ! BUt… NO April Fool, ok? the meet up is serious & on…. LOL

It’s actually a not bad idea to wear the OV polo-shirt on the 1/4 meeting though..for easier identification amongst OV members. What do u all think?

I had no comment …… the building color,tiles color & etc…….for me it is ok sorry for not joining.

@Orange Juice
I will come but where is the venue? Let me know, I have no problem at Sunway Starbucks. Other place, i will try to be there.
(can bring tomato villa’s T-shirt? just kidding)

@AhTu
I agreed with you Ah Tu on the air conditional piping. It is good if developer can look into it and make our house perfect.

@orange manic

veli soli guys…i can’t make it lor due to super bz on the weekend….bo pien lor…need to be a taxi driver to fetch my kids to tuisyens, drawing, piano, martial arts and so on lor….anyhow i oso called developer this morning la to express our team’s eh concerns n views plus suggestions lor…hehe…good things here is developer is open minded too laa in this matter n i think they did care on the concerns n views plus suggestion that we brought out here lor…developer plan to bring our concerns n suggestions to their project manager eh attention as well….good la…at least they’re not direct reject me n close the discussion door thru the phone call lor..hehe…i hope we can get the outcome from developer when the show house is ready for public viewing later on…i believe u all will ask the developer the outcome too during the show house opening event lor …hehe

u all go ahead la on the plan to meet up with developer lor …i think no harm lor n good too if can have a face to face with developer to raise the concerns n suggestion lor…good luck !haha..

@cheese Meet at orange Villa show house.

@Grace, In my opinion, not only need to ask for aircond pipes, but also kitchen exhaust pipe opening.

Ah Tu,
Should we write all the discussion and share with the developer since they are open minded?
At least we list down for them instead of verbal. Then pass the letter to them. We also hope their business can grow because of Voice of Customer. Who knows any of us will promote their property to other friend because of they are willing to hear from customers. And we might also be their next buyer in future right?

So the meeting still on on 1-Apr 4pm? Venue please.
@AhTu

@cheese

halo cheese, if can write it in a proper letter n can pass it to Dato Hong, then that is perfect lor i think ! hehe…but looks like we yet to hv RELA editor to compile all the concerns n suggestions lor…hehe…so if cannot find the RELA on this matter, like wat Chin said, speaking in mandarin or hokkien to developer oso might works laa…bo ikan udang pun ok liao ma…hehe

Send to Dato Hong is hard. We can meet up with Ms Lee, the project Manager. I believe she is willing to ensure the project in good customer voice.
Need to write down and get someone to pass to Ms Lee. Sure there will be someone willing to do that. I am staying in Island so might be resistance for me to meet up Ms Lee. Let’s see anyone can help on that.

So anyone to meet up? Venue Sunway Starbucks 1-Apr 4pm.
@AhTu

@cheese
Date: 1st April
Time: 4pm
Venue: orange Villa, jalan betek, 14000 bukit mertajam

i am enough busy with my daily work and also another JMC volunteer work …. talk and attn is ok for me, but ask me to compile and edit ….. too tough for me laa …
AhTu ….. if Sunday cannot, we still can meet other day.
What if a weekly gathering at Seberang Prai Plaza Star Buck ….. make is a weeking gathering. No compulsory just a chit chat session. May be we can ask Mr Hong to join us as well …. hahaha.

@WinnieWowWow
Seberang prai plaza? Where is that?

AiYoyo ….. at Perda laaa ……. Google map can help u la….

Ah Tu…….
your english is so kampung english still people need you lor…..you see how great you are …..

@WinnieWowWow

If the gathering falls in weekdays, I think not many people can make it loh – working mah.

Ah Tu, see! u r needed so much in forming the purchaser association…

seems still no conclusion on meeting up yet.

To the neighbors:

1. WinnieWowWow
2. Orange Juice
3. Orange Manic
4. Ah Tu
5. Chin
6. manutd
7. Grace
8. V@gmal.my
9. superman
10. cheese

I think the show house will be ready by next weekend.
Let’s meet up on 7-Apr (Sunday) 3pm @ show room for discussion.

Please arrange your availability to present since still a week to go. Thanks!

went to site again during makan time n here’re some updates to share…hehe :

– the exterior part of building almost completed, i think can say 99.99% completed on exterior liao…saw developer plant some “umbrealla” trees n filipina grasses oso…i like the “umbrealla” trees n filipina grass ..looks nice..

– almost all the window filled up with glasses liao including the balcony eh tempered glass lor.

– exterior color oso 100% painted liao..hmmm…personally i still felt dull n pale with that darkkhakis color especially when looked from the front view angle lor…the feel veli obvious when i stand STRAIGHT n CHUN CHUN toward front of the building…from front view, u can c the building color especially 1st n 2nd n roof top eh wall color mostly filled up with that darkkhakis color lor, but luckily there are some white color at ground floor n oso the lining color of window eh frames la..hehe..if not, u will doubt too on whether the building ada paint bo ….cause that darkkhakis color looks a bit near to simen color lor..hehe..

– Looks like the back color and half of the side corner color was painted with white color lor.

– if view the building color from the corner side eh angle , still looks ok lor cause u can c the combination color of DarkKhakis color(half front of the building) n white color(another half side n back of the building) ma..

– one things to highlight is if view the buildng as the whole, u can c the back of the building is more brighter than front of the building due to the color applied there i think…hehe…normally in standard building eh color spec, the front view eh color should b more brighter than back of the bulding color lor, n part of the corner side eh color should b paint with a contrast color la…..but looks like our OV eh color terbalik lor –> back building more brighter than front building lor…..i m ok if u dun hv same views with me lor…no offence here la as i understand the color stuffs is veli veli subjective 1 lor..same ppls like this color n same ppls like that color lor..hehe..but if u hv same feeling with me after u c the show house, then meaning my views betul juga la that is —-> i prefer our OV eh front building color more brighter than back building eh color la….haha..

one more thing forgot to highlight here lor..pai sei pai sei…hehe… the box fill up with simen 1 is a PBA box laa…i c here n c there n try to find the good place for that PBA box, lastly give up lor n i think the original place is the right place to fill up that PBA box lor..cause if not place there, then dunno where to place it liao especially for the intermediate terrace unit 1, really cannot find the good place to fix that PBA n post box(i guess la) liao , that’y developer put there i think la….unless can put that PBA box at backyard lor..but dunno this will violate any MPSP eh rules bo la later on if put at backyard…

for corner unit n semi-d unit, i hope developer can put it on another side lor since corner n semi-d units got extra side land ma…..if can put at another side, the car porch will looks lagi sui la…hehe…

@AhTu

My concern is about the PBA box location under the car porch roof opening …

That means no more green area for front stage, and it is not very right if it still have an open roof above.

@Orange Juice

i saw got some open roof there…but not c ada green area there as stated in the picture la, not sure oso y developer want to fill up the green area with imprint tile lor…may b can ask developer during show house launch time si lor ..on y not leave some green area there ..i like green area too la….

may b developer want to make car porch looks big kua..if filled all with imprint tile, no doubt the car porch will looks bigger if compare to leave a small portion of green area in car porch lor ….my view n guess nia la….it is good to check with developer lor…hehe

ya..i agree with u on it is not very right if it still hv an open roof there since below of open roof no more green area liao ….our car porch surely will get wet when raining day si lor… unless that open roof is close by some see thru eh awning la….but not sure what will be the final looks when show house open for viewing si..may b is not like what we think lor…who know ….hehe…

@Orange Juice

i think there’re some changing on design on terrace unit eh car porch area…u can compare the picture kua lor… if u c those pictures, u’ll know wat i mean here liao…i think developer follow semi-d unit eh car porch design for this show house la as there’re only 3 tiang at the car porch now ma…if developer follow original terrace unit eh car porch design, then there should hv 4 tiang instead of 3 ma…i think 3 tiang will b better than 4 tiang cause 3 tiang will make the terrace unit eh car porch looks more spacious n bigger. But i still not understand the use of open roof at side of the car porch area lor..hehe…if developer plan to fill it up with see thru eh awning, then make sense lor….cause may b they wanted to hv some sun light shine masuk the car porch ma…but if developer plan not to install see thru eh awning and leave a big hole there, then really dunno what is the purpose of that open roof liao ….cause rain water will pour masuk later on….how lam lor…hehe…let c what they plan to do with open roof top later on lor….may b this is not the final result yet ma!

I think I discover in last visit. According to the site guy, there is a tub on top of the car porch roof. I do not know what is the purpose neither him. It may create problem when raining. Though there is a running path for water to drain, but the tub will be dirty in long term and not able to be cleaned because we are not able to get out to there.

Anyone know about this?

This one was explained by the banker to me when I met with the banker. It looks better. @AhTu

cheese :
I think I discover in last visit. According to the site guy, there is a tub on top of the car porch roof. I do not know what is the purpose neither him. It may create problem when raining. Though there is a running path for water to drain, but the tub will be dirty in long term and not able to be cleaned because we are not able to get out to there.
Anyone know about this?

Hehe, if the drain spout pipe there get stucked, it will become a mini swimming pool / outdoor bath tub…above the car porch roof.

cheese :This one was explained by the banker to me when I met with the banker. It looks better. @AhTu

halo cheese, not understand wat u mean on this lor….u mean 3 tiang looks better than 4 tiangs ? or the tub in open roof top (that tub in hokkien we called “chooi chor”) looks ok? hehe

let’s see how big the tub would be whether enough to fit in whole family. If yes, then good idea to have own swimming pool. :):)@Orange Juice

3 poles better than 4 poles. @AhTu

@cheese

yup..agree oso… hehe

@AhTu

I had discuss all this comment & suggestion to my family member & friends lor……. they told me don’t act pandai-pandai give suggestion lor……. they Tah Wah developer already got a lot of experience and expert in housing project ma…….
AhTu….. may be we are wrong lor…… to give this type of comment & suggestion.

hahaha.
End of meeting ~
Free for own thing ~

@V@gmal.my

may b we r wrong…may be we r right too…but suggestion is a suggestion…no wrong or right given a suggestion…developer hv designers with them…i think developer n their designer should views our suggestion to c our comments is right or wrong here ..like wat u said, they’re expert in house buildng ma…sometimes a good developer may oso hit the wall n out of ideas too…that’s y the suggestion that arise from buyer can help them in certain cases…

if we r wrong on our views or suggestion given, then we should get a good explanation or reason from developer on why they think our views n suggestion is incorrect ma….hehe…developer are open minded so as us …rite? hehe

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I also passed by to see from outside today, lots of people are working inside both units, very busy, so don’t want disturb them.

@ Cheese we still will meet up on this Sunday (1st April) afternoon, dispite your suggested date on 7th April , that we could make it as second gathering.

The OV designer really like darker color. For show unit, the 2×1 wall tile color that used in all master room’s bath rooms are in black color tile, plain black with no decoration! It make the bath rooms looks darker sigh!
Why not the designer use more brighter tile color ?

@ABCO
Is the color specified in the specification? Dark color is not nice to look. This is very critical.

Final time and venue? I will try to attend

Orange Juice :I also passed by to see from outside today, lots of people are working inside both units, very busy, so don’t want disturb them.
@ Cheese we still will meet up on this Sunday (1st April) afternoon, dispite your suggested date on 7th April , that we could make it as second gathering.

Hi All,
Is the meeting on 1 April still on? What is the confirmed time and venue?

Count me in:

1. WinnieWowWow
2. Orange Juice
3. Orange Manic
4. Ah Tu
5. Chin
6. manutd
7. Grace
8. V@gmal.my
9. superman
10. cheese
11. hybr1d3d

so is it this sunday or next sunday?

@cheese

Color not specified in the spec. The width of the main door at ground floor looks a bit narrow. Go and take a look on it !

@cheese

As per what Orange Juice suggested earlier,1/4/2012 at 4pm at OV site. We all meet there first then proceed to one of the nearest cafe if it’s closed.

Everyone ok? Ah Tu, would be glad if u can join loh.

orange manic :
@cheese
As per what Orange Juice suggested earlier,1/4/2012 at 4pm at OV site. We all meet there first then proceed to one of the nearest cafe if it’s closed.
Everyone ok? Ah Tu, would be glad if u can join loh.

I am OK

just drop by the site, managed to speak with one of the worker there. there will be hot water piping ready for all bathroom except ground floor.

by the way, looking from outside , i saw the alarm system’s beacon light and buzzer box were installed.

Solar hot water system for reference.

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chin :
http://sijimuge.tmall.com/

@chin
It is included free to us right?

@cheese
only hot and cold water piping is ready… the system we have to get it our own.

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@hybr1d3d
I m ok, see u there.

I think Permatang Sactuary is better choice. Developer is IJM very famous in Penang, KL, PJ, produce good quality houses – i was told.

Land: 32.8 * 98 feet (3214 square feet)
Built-up : 22 * 48 feet (1056 square feet)
Back Yard: 32.8 * 21 feet (688 square feet)
Car Porch: 32.8 * 29 feet (951 square feet) – can park 4 cars
Side: 10.8 * 48 feet (518 square feet)

Price at RM550K (RM10K discount before show house ready). Phase I – non-bumi lot almost sold out. Sell like hot cakes – may be due to branded developer !!

chin :
just drop by the site, managed to speak with one of the worker there. there will be hot water piping ready for all bathroom except ground floor.

Ah Chin ah….can upload foto boh…?

AhTu :@KH kam xia …kam xia for the support….haha..
for permatang sanctuary, i think location and environment not very good lor, too far from town n no good schools n got lot of bangla n indonesia workers staying nearby tamans that developed by asas dunia last time, u can go round round the nearby tamans to c what i said is true or not. i think the site also a flood area, i m not song song kong here, there is a big playground in their layout plan, if i tak silap, that playground will serve as a retention pond too, u can see permatang sanctuary pictures in ijm land site too, u sure will find the nice pond surrounding semid houses picture, that pond is a retention pond i think, when no rain n no air masuk, it will become playground…but not sure how ijm land will control the water later….so that when it become playground si, the grass and land inside it will not become muds or filling by muds…hahahaha…u can double check with ijm sales on this matter laa…another things is not sure u believe on feng sui or not, if u believe it, u can use the wikimap that K9 like to use one..haha..to check the area…u will find one of the main road there looks like a pisau sabit 1, its tajam end is pointed to permatang santuary site. i hope the new fly over road will block the bad feng sui of pisau tajam road there…if u r not believe on feng sui, then u can ignore this..
The good site i can see for permatang santuary is the house price is cheaper lor ..estimated price now is at 450k++. length of the house is ok but i not like the width of the house lor, the max is 22ft nia..like a terrace to me although it is a semid, i think at first ijm plan to build terrace there, but due to semid more popular, then they decided make a terrace in a semid lor….i think one mistake they’re making here that might jeopardize their sales later on..that is small width lor, they should make the width of the house bigger ..at least 26ft since the location there no very good liao..only bigger and really spacious build up will attract buyer in such location. but if they build bigger build up area, then the house will become costly liao….headache to them too..hahaha
very tired to type liao…huh..let me stop here first….if u r interested to hear my comment on jesselton hills, i will share with u later…now need to rest first…hahahaha

@Alice
orange vila still will b the best residential GnG in BM lor…cause we’re in this blog that 120%support orange vila will ensure it will be….hehe…i recall i did commented the good n bad points of permatang santuary previously lor…u can refer my previous comment on permatang santuary in previous quote oso..i copied here too anyway…hehe…i know u hv bought permatang santuary liao…but the most important point to buy a house is to consider the location n surrounding environment n its accessibility…if talk on those points, permatang santuary still can’t fight with orange vila lor…hehe..

@Alice
some people buy a house because of it’s close to parent’s house , use to be that area, the price, surrounding establishment (school, Hospital, shopping center, Church, eateries , chicken farm and etc) developer reputation, house design, the concept, location, the type of the house (Semi-D/Terrace), the land area, the build up area, accessibility and many more….
in short, one man’s meat is another man’s poison quote apply here.

Today we went to see the neighbouring guarded and gated project at jalan betek, the guard allow our car to enter without registration. Unlike palm villa that we visited earlier, the internal road looks very narrow, maybe it is same width as OV but because all houses have their own metal gate making the road feel narrower. The houses there already done lot of renovation, externally we can see some extend their car porch, some added awnings roof over the car porch that protruded out of the boundary of building, and many different type of metal gate design. All this make the taman “no class” and ugly overall. Hopefully orange villa will not be like this.

@AhTu

11 of us only give suggestion, but don’t forget lor….. there are some more 131 buyer, may be they don’t like our suggestion ma…..when the showhouse is completed open for public’s, some buyer may be they give some suggestion that we don’t like. For example some buyer want the exterior building color change to brown color, and some want yellow color make the house look “ong” so & so….. than aun chua ho….. lor………….?

Is the meeting still on?

@V@gmal.my

my views is that if 11 of us felt the given suggestions here is the contructive suggestions n having the same feeling on the raised concerns n views plus suggestions, then mostly of the buyer will feel the same too lor…for eg, the building color, if out of 11 ppl, 3 ppls feel dull but the rest of the pps – 8 ppl feel not dull n ok…then those 3 ppls that feel dull should follow the 8 ppls eh views lor….but if 8 ppl feel dull n only 3 ppls fell ok, then i think developer should consider the 8ppl eh concern liao…hehe.. if u ada went to c other housing project eh show house/units, then that time, u sure compare it with orange vila lor…hehe..like me…hehe

@Grace I don think can meet @ site bcos pintu besar tutup, dilarang masuk liao. Not lock, can still open yourself and mask lah if you wan.

so we postpone the gathering at site?

hybr1d3d :
so we postpone the gathering at site?

Yeah, saw the gate closed.

Not bad…… the bathrooms tile black in color, when the tile is dirty it won’t easily look dirty. no need all the time wash the tile bathrooms……… and the exterior building darker color,it won’t fade easily…..rite ?

@New

hehe..if like that, then better no nid paint the exterior building lor, leave it as simen color lagi good lor…will save painting color oso ma..since darker color will looks like a simen color…hehe ….for bathroom black color tile, hmmm…when it is dirty n leave the dirty there cause not c the dirty due to black black color, si pek lak sam lor n not healthy too lor….bacteria will b spreading here n there laa if tak nampak the dirty n not wash it…..haha…

Aiya … i went today laa ….. one bird also tak dak …. !

@WinnieWowWow
I went too, but didn’t open the main gate to enter.. I reached there exactly 4 pm

@WinnieWowWow
I guess we have to wait until the show house completed then only ramai -ramai gather at the site or coffee shop… hopefully by then it will not be too late to suggest anything.

@AhTu

If I am not wrong, you can look back at the Orange Villa brochure, the outer color is not bright, it is actually darker than the color of the show house. That means, when we (buyer) decided to buy, we should already know the house color is not bright, yellow or others. It will be kind of darker color. To be fair to Developer, we can not ask to change this as this is already known before we buy. If we already signed on the dotted line, it means we agreed to it. If the developer is doing something not according to agreement, then we need to right the wrongs.

So, I think it will be a very weak case if we want to argue about color too dull etc etc. Of course, whoever feels that color should be brighter, then you can go ahead to propose.

@WinnieWowWow

I am in Japan right now so I do not have the chance to visit the site yet this week. May be buyers can get together during the launch..

@manutd

just a quick clarification here – i’m not argue n not plan to argue with the developer on the color or any given suggestions here including the length n width of the staircase la ..hehe..as i always mentioned n mentioned, i can just give suggestion to developer when i c something that i think it can be done more better in order to make our orange vila looks lagi grand n beautiful as a whole community….i believe developer oso want to make their orange vila looks grand too…hehe…we’ve signed SnP liao n if developer not accepted my or our concerns n views plus suggestions, then i n we cannot do anything too la… i or we just hope that developer can listen n study on the concerns n views n suggestions that we raised in this blog or thru direct phone call to them lor..i always believe that a good developer will always listen n study what the concerns raise by customer is true or not…if not true after studying, then they should brief n provide their customer a good explaination on the concern raised….this is the best ways if we talk on “Customer Experience” !! rite?

@AhTu

Agreed and everyone has right to propose and channel opinion.

besides we’re not expert in house design n building too la, developer more expert than us of course laa, since they’re the expert in this area, then it should b not a problem for them to provide an explanation to their customer lor if they think customer concerns are not betul lor..hehe..so to me, i feel no harm to raise concern or suggestion to developer since this project still in early stage of the development….developer still hv time to fix it if they think customer eh concerns betul juga…developer oso not stupid laa, they will nid to c n study the concerns n suggestions given by customer whether is right or wrong first ma b4 they make any changes to the orginal spec ma……if we c the concerns n not raised now, n just wait till whole development already 95% completed balu raised the concerns to developer….how lam liao that time….and bei hu liao too….hehe…

chin :
Solar hot water system for reference.
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Probably the cost of installing 5 units of heater tanks for all the toilets( including kitchen will be 6 units) could be similar or more expensive than installing a single centralized solar heater panel and tank, and some more save energy bill. So I think it is worth to be considered.

@Orange Juice

I was there at 4.10pm didnt c anyone there. I hv actually pre-empted all of you that the site office will be closed this weekend onwards till middle of April for ID work before official launch of the showhouse. would hv expected all of us proceed to the nearest cafe for a discussion…Hopefully it’s not too late to voice our comments officially by then..

Just a sudden, AhTu’s english sound so well d ……. hahaha ………gogo Ahtu.

@AhTu

are you sure lor….. no need to paint, the simen color would look darker mei…….hehe
honestly the exterior building paint it darker color it surely look special & different lor.. compare to other housing project ma…rite ?

@New

now just got 2 units of show house there ma….so it may looks sipecial with darker color to u or the other ppls lor….but not to me la…hehe…if later on all terrace eh houses completed built liao …then hmmm..i’m not sure it will lok sipecial lagi or not lor if with most of the darker color painted at front of the house eh buidling …..hehe..it may looks sipecial or it may looks dull dull n not special lor….dunno yet lor cause entire building not ki hor lagi ma..anyway i more preferred my house eh front building color painted with a bit more brighter color then back side of the house lor….this is good oso in term of fengshui ma if u believe on fengshui la…….hehe.. since we cannot suka suka change our house eh exterior color under this orange vila, then it is good to fikir betul betul whether the darkhakis color that painted at show house ok bo lor……if u think ok then bo pien lor…ok lor…if u think not ok after row of houses built up later on with that darker color….then u can oso raise to developer lor…more ppl raise to them meaning more ppl hv concerns on using that darkkhakis color lor….n i think devloper still can tukar cat lor since 98.77% of houses not ki hor n not being cat lagi ma…haha…if later on all ki hor liao n cat liao…..n if most of the resident there feel our orange vila eh buidling color looks dull dull n am am 1, then how lam liao…cannot change liao…..if want to change color that time, then nid to use our sinking fund liao..that time really how lam lor…hehe…btw, this is just my views nia la….may b 95.99% of orange vila eh resident suka their back site of house color brighter than front site ma…this is hard to say too lor…..hehe…

@AhTu
I prefer brighter color at front site too, so i’m not in the 95.99% hehe

In feng shui black color is gold ……
” Or Kim Or kim Nah Kua Nah Jip Sim ” lor……..hehe

If talking about feng shui, from my research on internet and book, the suitable color depends on your house direction, we only have two types of direction, facing northwest is metal element in bagua thus suitable color is gold, silver, white…the other type facing southeast is wood element in bagua thus suitable color is green..

I mean’s it bathroom tile black in color, not the house direction feng shui color……

Seems the dark khakis color is more toward “green”, so it is OK for southeast facing houses.

Our unit is facing SE, too.

Anyone plan to hire a master to confirm this?

Last time when we visited the show units, the corner unit’s bathroom is all black, but the intermediate standard unit is not black….i think it is light brown (not very sure)..

If I remember correctly, the all black toilet only for the second floor living room area (where the room floor tiles also in black color)…with dark blue walls and funny shape ceiling, it looks more like a karaoke / pub room … so even for the corner unit, others toilets tiles are not all black.

@Orange Juice

the problem is the existing color is not in light green or apple green color…hehe..it is in Darkkhakis color lor…if it is in light green or light apple green color..then looks not bad too…i oso like the light apple green color…but ..hmm…the painted color now are more darker lor n in hokien we called that color ‘ar sai zhea”….hehe…how lam lor…

for the toilet tile, the front end toilets all are in black color lor n back site eh toilet all are in light brown color pula lor….hehe..so u will hv 2 color of toilet tiles la….huh!!! this is consider a new design or a headache design….dunno liao…only our orange vila eh designer can explain y got 2 plain color of tiles lor….n without any design pun ….hehe…headace..headache …

@orangebunny

good la orangebunny….pls raise to developer when u visit the show house lor….hope we can get brighter color at front site…our house will sure ong 1 if the color is brighter lor..hehe..if front site eh color more towards darker n am am eh color then how lam liao lor…hehe..

@AhTu

Hi Ah Tu,

I am not looking to confront you, but I feel that I want to understand your thought process.

1) Before you bought OV, you shld have already looked at brochure and I believe you should already know the color.
2) Then you signed SPA, which meant you are happy with the color.
3) Now, you said you can’t accept this darker color and you want to feedback and hope developer can change.

Well, I don’t understand what are you trying to do here. Personally, i don’t think there is any issue with color. I am not arguing whether you have the right to give suggestion. I am arguing that when you buy something, that’s mean you already accept the product (unless something hidden).

Dark or bright – like it or not, it is very subjective. If you can’t accept dark at all, why do you buy at the first place? It is like when you buy car, after you bought, then you wanted to return as color is not matching what you want.

I just couldn’t understand the logic here.

@manutd

the problem is the actual color not really matched the color in the brochure lor….the color printed in the brochures looks better than the color painted in the show house due to in the brochure, at least u can c some combination of colors there even it is darker…..hehe..i know there will hv some deviation to the color when it is printed in a paper/brochures, brochure is just a brochures…actual n final color is most important here…..it is ok to confront me as i said no offence here…hehe…..we r freedom to give opinions n suggestions in this blog…no write or wrong…if we think there still can hv an improvement to make orange vila looks nice, then no harm to suggest lor… we’re not enforce ppl to follow our suggestions in this blog ..at here, just hv the opinion n concern n suggestions..the final decision still under developer hand….not u or me or us…hehe…when u r back from japan n go to c the show house, if u like the painted color..then u oso can tell developer u like the current painted color…no wrong too…we r in democracy place…ppl hv right to give their own views n suggestion n vote !!!!…hehe

@manutd Aiyuh, MU, bei house not like bei ciah lah….For me, bei house i consider location, size, price and then design, color. Not all will suit my choice mah…if we look for house that can meet all our expektesyen, we look n look n at the end, sure we buy nothing eh mah. So, if the location, size n $ is ok…then we buy lah… But if design n color can meet our choice, then Lagi Best lah….this simple teohli also you dunno??

if the developer can paint the color excatly same as the color that shown in the brochures, then hmmmm….it surely will looks better laa…but i oso understand not easy to find the color that exactly same as the brochure color 1 lor.. hehe….the rule is very simple here: if u like the current color that painted in show house then tell developer u like it when u hv face to face with them during show house opening…if u not like the color, then raise it to developer oso… simple n easy !!!! again…any complaints or suggestion in this blog, the decision is on DEVELOPER hand…..not US la…..luckily i’m not the chairman of the purchaser association….headache..headache…pening lalat lor…haha

I suggest exterior building darker color remain the same…..if want to change better change the roof tile color to orange color…….really really look very special……. since our house is name Orange Villa……
for the toilets floors….it is good to used black tile or other darker tile………

@Tan Pek
yes i know. that’s why i was questioning Ah Tu.

Anyway, Ah Tu already explained his point of view.
For me, combining a lot of factors and that’s why i bought OV. and, i am ok with the color too.

By the way, I don’t think you understand what I was writing previously.

Anyway, i am ok with current paint colour, look elegence and classy. Look at penang SriTanjung Pinang, all white, nauticalus, all white, botanica CT, all white also.

@New
My bathroom is using black tile now, u will have white stain if you don’t clean it

guys, the paint is not finish yet, this is just the base layer, says the contractor

@WinnieWowWow

white color better lor…at least white is bright ma !! hehe