let me make this very clear, OV Purchaser Group WILL ONLY SEEK FOR A DIPLOMATIC SOLUTIONS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE AND SEEK FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR THE GOOD OF BOTH PARTY. WE WILL ONLY TALK AND ACT BASED ON FACT AND TAHWAH FEEDBACK.

As of now, we are upset because of Tahwah reply for not accepting our invitation for the discussion. Their reputation will be reflected by how they react on their customer’s fundamental request. We post the fact, let fellow buyers / future buyer be the judge.

Dunno who deleted the msg ive just sent,

I think i have to re-clarify the reason we make this requisition,
allow me to point out some of the point:

1. rooftop barricade was shaky when we check the show house during launching.
2. walls between units is very low, easily be over passed by adults
3. we need TW clarification on air cond piping and cabling point provided. if all compressor have to link to the hidden area in front of our house, even for the back unit, the length of cable will cause the drop of power and if the piping stuck, things will get ugly cuz the piping is not accessible after plaster ceiling. instead we request to install in both side of house, front and behind.

above is some of the requisition made. does it sound too much to you?

Who deleted my msg seriously?
BD, angry bird, Justice Bao, (another) Alice, alonso, OK liao, these people are not part of OVPG

alonso :
@ Ah Tu
you are not part of the club so you dunno leh. there are many things that we also think it’s overboard but these 2 guys insist to go ahead, their request is really too much, asking for free air cond pipe, plaster ceiling, alarm system, provide additional features to the house that requires submisison of building plan. even the hedges they want the developer to commit to a certain height and shape…this is real joker. haih….no wonder the developer refused to see them. buying a house is a dream but dunno why these 2 guys want to make their life miserable.

that is why FTF discussion was meant for, we gathered the opinions from fellow OVPG members, compile and submit to TW. we understand that some points could not be comply.
that is why we need to know what TW could do at minimum. Especially those with safety concern.

But what we got is a simple NO. that is very bad attitude.

True buyers wont stay quiet about this
Alonso, stop pretending, you’re tahwah member, not part of OVPG formed.

Only admin has delete access, I think it’s time for you to clarify.

Chuah :
Only admin has delete access, I think it’s time for you to clarify.

Izzit Ken? I hope he will clarify.
Off now… really tired facing these pretenders who mislead-ed OVPG real motive and those fake buyers trying to jeopardize the project.
to Alice, please go back to your Permatang Sanctuary, since you are not buying, dont ruin our name, thank you.

To Cheong, if you are reading this, now I understand why you got so excited in the phone just now, as mentioned, BD, angry bird, Justice Bao, (another) Alice, alonso, OK liao…
We really dunno who the hell they are, the legit member is in the list submitted.

As for Unifi case, since my previous comment was deleted, why i felt upset and feel being cheated is because your sales committed to check but no feedback until you called me just now.

We expect you to hold your word for those promotional word used in the brochure printed. High end residential area, meant for several generations thing.
If your mission is to achieve above goals, Optic fibre pre-installation should be in your consideration. this is where the future heading.
Don’t simply say no without proper checking.

as mentioned before, customer service is part of the key to a successful business.
as mentioned in the letter, we request to seek for mutual agreement for both party, can comply or not, lets negotiate bout it, if offer by reasonable package, we will take in consideration too. dont simply shut the door and ignore your customer. that is very rude.

hybr1d3d :To Cheong, if you are reading this, now I understand why you got so excited in the phone just now, as mentioned, BD, angry bird, Justice Bao, (another) Alice, alonso, OK liao…We really dunno who the hell they are, the legit member is in the list submitted.
As for Unifi case, since my previous comment was deleted, why i felt upset and feel being cheated is because your sales committed to check but no feedback until you called me just now.
We expect you to hold your word for those promotional word used in the brochure printed. High end residential area, meant for several generations thing.If your mission is to achieve above goals, Optic fibre pre-installation should be in your consideration. this is where the future heading.Don’t simply say no without proper checking.
as mentioned before, customer service is part of the key to a successful business.as mentioned in the letter, we request to seek for mutual agreement for both party, can comply or not, lets negotiate bout it, if offer by reasonable package, we will take in consideration too. dont simply shut the door and ignore your customer. that is very rude.

As a real buyer of OrangeVilla, i fully support you, hybri3d. Consider to cancel my booking. Still better i join the club and react as a team.

Alice :haiz – too many Alice – I went to Tat Wah office today and the sales rep (Stephanie) said there are not such thing that buyer are negotiating with Tat Wah. She said Tat Wah will not bother what is written in this forum. She ask me not to believe anything in this forum. She considered all buyers in this forum are difficult buyer and she said probably only 10%, so why bother as 90% more buyer are not making any noise …

Hohoho…….. i think this comment have flame up the fire for the other 90% buyer. Becareful you comment lo …………….hohoho.

Hohoho …….. 10% is a big number. I wonder why this developer still choose to ignore purchaser. shameful, shameful. Good luck laa, all orange villa buyer.

All the while the club are looking for a very diplomatic way of feedback. The arrogant and ignorance of TW have cause the angry from the purchaser. Why still wait? Go arrange a time to meet the club members. Why scare? you are doing big business. Are you scare of due to you really did some thing wrong? if not, go meet them. They are your good referee in future.

KL Johnny :

hybr1d3d :To Cheong, if you are reading this, now I understand why you got so excited in the phone just now, as mentioned, BD, angry bird, Justice Bao, (another) Alice, alonso, OK liao…We really dunno who the hell they are, the legit member is in the list submitted.As for Unifi case, since my previous comment was deleted, why i felt upset and feel being cheated is because your sales committed to check but no feedback until you called me just now.We expect you to hold your word for those promotional word used in the brochure printed. High end residential area, meant for several generations thing.If your mission is to achieve above goals, Optic fibre pre-installation should be in your consideration. this is where the future heading.Don’t simply say no without proper checking.as mentioned before, customer service is part of the key to a successful business.as mentioned in the letter, we request to seek for mutual agreement for both party, can comply or not, lets negotiate bout it, if offer by reasonable package, we will take in consideration too. dont simply shut the door and ignore your customer. that is very rude.

As a real buyer of OrangeVilla, i fully support you, hybri3d. Consider to cancel my booking. Still better i join the club and react as a team.

Pls dont cancel the buy, as u will suffer loss, unless developer cover you loss and lawyer fee.

Grandfather :Hohoho …….. 10% is a big number. I wonder why this developer still choose to ignore purchaser. shameful, shameful. Good luck laa, all orange villa buyer.

@WinnieWowWow – Don’t use other peoples nickname pls !
We know this is not wrote by real “GrandFather” !

alonso :
@ Ah Tu
you are not part of the club so you dunno leh. there are many things that we also think it’s overboard but these 2 guys insist to go ahead, their request is really too much, asking for free air cond pipe, plaster ceiling, alarm system, provide additional features to the house that requires submisison of building plan. even the hedges they want the developer to commit to a certain height and shape…this is real joker. haih….no wonder the developer refused to see them. buying a house is a dream but dunno why these 2 guys want to make their life miserable.

may be this 2 guys first time buying Rm500k++ house…hahaha….

i fully agree with admin Ken laa..dun take it too personal n place the offensive comments here when ppl not follow u all eh move…hehe..this site now become double rojak liao…hehe..not sure who is real buyer, who is from developer, who is from competitor, who is a sabotager…who is speak for orange vila eh purchaser club…..but nvm la…as i always mentioned ma..the orange vila purchaser club eh objective to fight for buyers eh right in order to get a better house from developer is good move 1 n i solute the club member as well lor..but pls dun take it too personal when u cannot get wat u wanted la..by placing the offensive comments in order to threathen developer eh biz is not a right ways laa….if u still go for kids way to deal with developer on this matter, at the end not only u guys will at the lose end, hehe…most of the real buyers that not joined ur club will be at the lose end too…pls think think on others ppl eh feeling too laaa……hehe…developer oso human ma, like us, they got feeling too ma…if i m developer or datuk Hong la, i will feel bei siok oso when see u guys claimed that u r from the purchaser club came to here to sabotage my project ma…not only developer la..(i m one of the buyer there when c u guys place offensive n unreasonable comments si, i oso felt bei siok too la, not to said devloper or datuk hong..)…hehe.. when developer or datuk Hong bei siok liao, he will sure rejected all ur request liao la n he will just follow whatever stated in SnP lor….as a human being, this is common sense la…n y datuk hong want to meet the person that sabotage his project ? if for me, i oso dun want to meet those person that sabotage my project la…u can think think kua wat i said is wrong or right lor.. u will said i m siding developer again lor…hehe..but in fact la, i m not siding anyone here – developer nor buyer…..i will hantam both side if both side comment not in rational or reasonable ways….. !!!! hehe..hehe..

@AhTu

I agree with your comment. I believe those angry buyers are first time buyer lah, never read SNP ! 😉

Orangee :

Grandfather :Hohoho …….. 10% is a big number. I wonder why this developer still choose to ignore purchaser. shameful, shameful. Good luck laa, all orange villa buyer.

@WinnieWowWow – Don’t use other peoples nickname pls !We know this is not wrote by real “GrandFather” !

I have 3 children and 5 grandchildren, i am a grandfather also. not sure who is the other grandfather or what stupid wowow. sorry, if clash with your name. Pls dont withdraw the buy, u will loss more. You should stay and form strong committee to work with them. Buy if too make purchaser withdraw the buy. VP time will be the time you guy can show you true color to TW and Hong. Pls hold the last 5% of the bank withdraw by inform lawyer.

Hello, hello, it is really too much from some of u… Does it mean best project needs to provide for the best thgs … Than u might as well ask for golden handrails , golden bathroom accessories , Italian tiles etc etc… This is really really far too crazy liow… Some real unreasonable purchasers together with competitors are threatening the developers…

Orangi :
Hello, hello, it is really too much from some of u… Does it mean best project needs to provide for the best thgs … Than u might as well ask for golden handrails , golden bathroom accessories , Italian tiles etc etc… This is really really far too crazy liow… Some real unreasonable purchasers together with competitors are threatening the developers…

don’t make thing worst… stop crapping around..

JusticeBao :

Orangi :Hello, hello, it is really too much from some of u… Does it mean best project needs to provide for the best thgs … Than u might as well ask for golden handrails , golden bathroom accessories , Italian tiles etc etc… This is really really far too crazy liow… Some real unreasonable purchasers together with competitors are threatening the developers…

don’t make thing worst… stop crapping around..

Stop craping around. Buyer asking for fundamental items only, not diamond or golden stuffs. Pls stop provoking.

AhTu :
i fully agree with admin Ken laa..dun take it too personal n place the offensive comments here when ppl not follow u all eh move…hehe..this site now become double rojak liao…hehe..not sure who is real buyer, who is from developer, who is from competitor, who is a sabotager…who is speak for orange vila eh purchaser club…..but nvm la…as i always mentioned ma..the orange vila purchaser club eh objective to fight for buyers eh right in order to get a better house from developer is good move 1 n i solute the club member as well lor..but pls dun take it too personal when u cannot get wat u wanted la..by placing the offensive comments in order to threathen developer eh biz is not a right ways laa….if u still go for kids way to deal with developer on this matter, at the end not only u guys will at the lose end, hehe…most of the real buyers that not joined ur club will be at the lose end too…pls think think on others ppl eh feeling too laaa……hehe…developer oso human ma, like us, they got feeling too ma…if i m developer or datuk Hong la, i will feel bei siok oso when see u guys claimed that u r from the purchaser club came to here to sabotage my project ma…not only developer la..(i m one of the buyer there when c u guys place offensive n unreasonable comments si, i oso felt bei siok too la, not to said devloper or datuk hong..)…hehe.. when developer or datuk Hong bei siok liao, he will sure rejected all ur request liao la n he will just follow whatever stated in SnP lor….as a human being, this is common sense la…n y datuk hong want to meet the person that sabotage his project ? if for me, i oso dun want to meet those person that sabotage my project la…u can think think kua wat i said is wrong or right lor.. u will said i m siding developer again lor…hehe..but in fact la, i m not siding anyone here – developer nor buyer…..i will hantam both side if both side comment not in rational or reasonable ways….. !!!! hehe..hehe..

AhTu………. correct ! very good comment …..

I think i am going to complain to the housing Tribunal soon. Just following SnP is correct, but misleading advertisment brochure providing ‘PERFECT LIVING’ is unacceptable when the finishing and material is of low quality…

I hate complaining but given no choice…had to do so…

so i will see Dato’ Hong in ‘court’

@mike
I’m afraid that u don’t have a case here

1. What’s the definition of “Perfect Living”?
2. What are the low quality materials used?
3. About the house finishing, have you got your key?
4. Even if the sales person cheated u, did u record the conversation?

@simple
Agreed with you. The house not yet ready and you wanna use ‘AIR’ to sue people in Tribunal? What a joke…..

mike :I think i am going to complain to the housing Tribunal soon. Just following SnP is correct, but misleading advertisment brochure providing ‘PERFECT LIVING’ is unacceptable when the finishing and material is of low quality…
I hate complaining but given no choice…had to do so…
so i will see Dato’ Hong in ‘court’

Hey kids – ‘PERFECT LIVING’ is just a wording only, all advertisements having nice wording one lah..Everywhere same, simple teory u also not understand ka? if u plan to sue developer because of the nice wording in advertisement that they are placed, then i would advise u better go back to school again and study ‘MARKETING’ course first..

who want to buy if wording in brochure is “Unperfect Living’????

@mike, no need lawyer or court….complain to housing ministry is enough as well as MPSP…

i did it once, they witheld the OC till the complaints are resolved….hahaha

@experienced
call yourself ‘experienced’, what experience do you have? be fair to Mike, dont misled him. He’s already distressed and you are giving him the wrong advise. the house is not even built, you cant even see the ‘tiang’ how to complain. listen to me Mike, seek your lawyer’s advice, some ppl want you to ‘knock the wall’

mike :
I think i am going to complain to the housing Tribunal soon. Just following SnP is correct, but misleading advertisment brochure providing ‘PERFECT LIVING’ is unacceptable when the finishing and material is of low quality…
I hate complaining but given no choice…had to do so…
so i will see Dato’ Hong in ‘court’

Way is the status now? Everyone is so excited to see the ending story lo

experienced :
@mike, no need lawyer or court….complain to housing ministry is enough as well as MPSP…
i did it once, they witheld the OC till the complaints are resolved….hahaha

This one even worst. Complaint to housing ministry. Don’t tell me you bring the brochure and make the complaint. You will make those people laugh until die. I bet my message will be here until tomolo before our lovely admin wake up and do tbe housekeeping. Hahaha

Really feel bad for the OV buyers.

BD :@mike I’m afraid that u don’t have a case here
1. What’s the definition of “Perfect Living”?2. What are the low quality materials used?3. About the house finishing, have you got your key?4. Even if the sales person cheated u, did u record the conversation?

You are so right. Words like “perfect”, “low”, “bad”, etc are adjectives….not a quantity that you can argue is less or more. The pages here already on fire even before the 1st tiang is piled…how to be good neighbours??

@kpc I just write wat I see, wat I know, wat I think only. Freedom of Internet lo

AhTu….. how many specialist hospital are there in BM…? are the specialist doctors got good experience compare to the doctors in island….?just want to know …..hehe

@V@gmal.my

as i know laa..got 1 specialist hospital KPJ near to bandar Perda Jusco there lor….how good are doctors eh experience compare to island that one i not sure liao…hehe. but i think island eh specialist should b better than mainland laa cause more specialist hospitals in island compare to mainland ma….hehe..

Actually, there is another in butterworth, Bagan specialist. There are 2government hospitals, one in BM and one in Seberang Jaya. By the way, BM to island only 30minutes.

BM to island takes only 30minutes if the car you’re driving is the only car
on the road.

V@gmal.my :AhTu….. how many specialist hospital are there in BM…? are the specialist doctors got good experience compare to the doctors in island….?just want to know …..hehe

Been observed, when ever V@gmal.my post msg, Ahtu must be then to reply. Ahtu look like full time hire by Tahwah and give good point and selling for Tahwah.

If you drive from BM to queens bay you will reach reach earlier then someone drive from tanjong tokong to queens bay.

AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

@GrandMa
There are many investors. They hope the house price keep appreciate and they will make tons of money. Orange villa is a good project where got house with lift below 1 million ringgit.

TL :If you drive from BM to queens bay you will reach reach earlier then someone drive from tanjong tokong to queens bay.

Pls do not miss lead. BM to Qbay, at least 45 min – 1.5 hr if jammed. From Tanjong Tokong, 20-45 min if jammed.
TL, r u Mr Hong’s son or sale man ?

RearBuyer104 :AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

How bad is this Tw, how can they asking purchaser to withdraw. Are they paying the current/latest price? and cover snp, loan lawyer fee that purchaser that already paid. If yes, this will be a good deal, could make little money and get rid of this problemaic and inexperience developer. go to buy gemilang, carnation and hill view are better deal.

Harmonic :

RearBuyer104 :AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

How bad is this Tw, how can they asking purchaser to withdraw. Are they paying the current/latest price? and cover snp, loan lawyer fee that purchaser that already paid. If yes, this will be a good deal, could make little money and get rid of this problemaic and inexperience developer. go to buy gemilang, carnation and hill view are better deal.

Worry that tahwah only select those problematic buyer to offer the cancellation, as this buy are good feedback and complainance. As buyer, we should support them. I developer offer them, should open to all other buyer. Soem thing is very funny and weirt happen for TahWah. Why they select to kick out those purchaser but not choose to listen to them? Sould like, you complain, we will kick u out.
Purchase Club committee, pls contact me at prometheus_prai@gmail.com, i would like to join the club and understand more.

VeryDisappointed :Since developer did not plan to meet the purchaser club, which mean developer did not commit to improve the GnG quality request and improvement. What should the purchase do? To all other buyer or potential buyer, pls do not buy Orange Villa as
1) Developer refuse to meet the Purchaser Club and improvement.2) Show house design is weak and will cos buyer must need to install awning and make the house look ugly.3) No fiber optic line (no UNIFY ready)4) No basic plaster ceiling5) Lousy staircase hand railing (only empty promise but till not no chg)6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM?7) Road from Jalan Betik to Orange Villa too narrow, less then 30 feet, sure traffic jam if have car parking at road side. Purchaser felt being cheated as before sign SnP, sale person say, this is 1st Tah Wah project sure will make it very good one. But when after sign SnP and open of show house, purchaser angry and feedback, and developer refuse to meet them.9) Their company is ‘Perfect Living for Generations’ but from the show house, purchaser felt cheated and angry. Infact, very angry.
What to do:Those potential buyer and house shopper, pls do not buy Orange Villa until they physically change the house staircase railing to a better quality or nicer one.I mean the un-renovated show house (actual one). Altho they promise to chg, buy we worry they will just simply weld another lousy steal rod onto current lousy railing, then tell you all, we are done and now the railing is more safe. Hahahaha ………..
Lesson learn:We will not buy new player project or no-name developer for my future house.Who know, this may be thier 1st and last project?Or May be their first project and un-completed project?TahWah, need to show to all purchaser and shopper.

OhNo! this is very bad. why developer choose to confront them and not listem to purchaser. very worry now my house. got cancellation?

alonso :@ Ah Tu
you are not part of the club so you dunno leh. there are many things that we also think it’s overboard but these 2 guys insist to go ahead, their request is really too much, asking for free air cond pipe, plaster ceiling, alarm system, provide additional features to the house that requires submisison of building plan. even the hedges they want the developer to commit to a certain height and shape…this is real joker. haih….no wonder the developer refused to see them. buying a house is a dream but dunno why these 2 guys want to make their life miserable.

no. this is the standard now for house like this GnG. I buy because it is GnG and promise by the sale person. In fact, the law must now clearly stated, but law can be implying thing. In fact, the 2nd show house is look lousy, who is not angry? Let me join the club to understand more.

RearBuyer104 :AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

halo RearBuyer104,

i dun hv insight on tis lor…but i think it will b good to orange vila community if the problematic buyers not buy this project lor..hehe…everyone oso dun want bad neighbours ma, everyone hope n want to live harmony in the GnG community laaa….so if problematic buyers can withdraw from this project, i think it is a good news to the rest of the genuine n polite buyers lor….hehe..but i think not that easy to withdraw liao after u sign the SnP lor….buy house is not li masak masak ma…we buy after deep thinking n survey ma…hehe…

GrandMa :

V@gmal.my :AhTu….. how many specialist hospital are there in BM…? are the specialist doctors got good experience compare to the doctors in island….?just want to know …..hehe

Been observed, when ever V@gmal.my post msg, Ahtu must be then to reply. Ahtu look like full time hire by Tahwah and give good point and selling for Tahwah.

tis is bcause i like polite persons such as V@gmal.my lor…hehe…if u r a polite person too n u got questions that i might know, then i will reply to u as well laaa..hehe…if u r interested to get more on the questions answers between me n V@gmal.my, then u can read previous comments lor provided u hv free time to do that lor..hehe

PAS for ALL :I think the developer will have all kind of bad remark until they complete (if they could but we doubt he could). Worse case, this bad remark will be forever follow them until their other Orange Project. Residence? Avenue? To my experience, althought the law my not favor to purchaser, you all can start write in to the authority and post in this blog, start open the eye from the public and authority. Let the authority scrutinize on their operation and ensure no further cheating happen. Do remember Central Park in Penang island, how badly the authority scrutinized Gxh Choxn Aun. As buyer, you all also can ask the authority to show you the actual plan, check how much it different from the original plan. Of cos, if you all really need help, you can look for me. I have fren in the ADUN office could help you guy to push and uphold fairness for you all. my email: pasforallkerai@yahoo.com

Please potong first if u want to join us, i hope you already potong.
if you yet to potong and want to get more info on potong, do send mail to pasforpotong@yahoo.com. We did have ADUN to help you if you have question on potong. 😉

@angry bird /winnie dog, stop sabo OV, watch euro better ! The game will start 2hrs from now !!

@crazy dog,

no buyer is asking for the moon…we are asking to be given better quality house compare to the show house…

handrail change is a must…the rest of the complaints are for discussion b4 the developer complete the house…and waste everyone money to hack the wall, change this and change that, etc…

you as a TW proxy are speaking irrationally…not the original buyers…

if simple things like that also developer ignore, most the buyers are cancelling the purchase!!!

lost :

TL :If you drive from BM to queens bay you will reach reach earlier then someone drive from tanjong tokong to queens bay.

Pls do not miss lead. BM to Qbay, at least 45 min – 1.5 hr if jammed. From Tanjong Tokong, 20-45 min if jammed.
TL, r u Mr Hong’s son or sale man ?

You don’t know the road in BM. I think you better buy a GPS. Count how many traffic light between qbay and tanjong tokong. how many between BM and Qbay. From BM is only 2 or 3… From tanjong tokong… Can not even count with your finger…! hahahaha….

Hi lost, are you lost in town? Better change name lar. Hahaha…

The number of people comment in this site is more than the house available. I mean the name. See how popular the project!

Harmonic :

RearBuyer104 :AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

How bad is this Tw, how can they asking purchaser to withdraw. Are they paying the current/latest price? and cover snp, loan lawyer fee that purchaser that already paid. If yes, this will be a good deal, could make little money and get rid of this problemaic and inexperience developer. go to buy gemilang, carnation and hill view are better deal.

Need to avoid TahWah project in future. After read, really cannot tahan the way they run this project.

OVillaBuyer :

VeryDisappointed :Since developer did not plan to meet the purchaser club, which mean developer did not commit to improve the GnG quality request and improvement. What should the purchase do? To all other buyer or potential buyer, pls do not buy Orange Villa as1) Developer refuse to meet the Purchaser Club and improvement.2) Show house design is weak and will cos buyer must need to install awning and make the house look ugly.3) No fiber optic line (no UNIFY ready)4) No basic plaster ceiling5) Lousy staircase hand railing (only empty promise but till not no chg)6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM?7) Road from Jalan Betik to Orange Villa too narrow, less then 30 feet, sure traffic jam if have car parking at road side. Purchaser felt being cheated as before sign SnP, sale person say, this is 1st Tah Wah project sure will make it very good one. But when after sign SnP and open of show house, purchaser angry and feedback, and developer refuse to meet them.9) Their company is ‘Perfect Living for Generations’ but from the show house, purchaser felt cheated and angry. Infact, very angry.What to do:Those potential buyer and house shopper, pls do not buy Orange Villa until they physically change the house staircase railing to a better quality or nicer one.I mean the un-renovated show house (actual one). Altho they promise to chg, buy we worry they will just simply weld another lousy steal rod onto current lousy railing, then tell you all, we are done and now the railing is more safe. Hahahaha ………..Lesson learn:We will not buy new player project or no-name developer for my future house.Who know, this may be thier 1st and last project?Or May be their first project and un-completed project?TahWah, need to show to all purchaser and shopper.

OhNo! this is very bad. why developer choose to confront them and not listem to purchaser. very worry now my house. got cancellation?

Omg …

Buying property is similar to buying stock. Better go for blue chip developers and avoid high risk penny stock likes TW.

Crazy dog :

Crazy dog :

mike :I think i am going to complain to the housing Tribunal soon. Just following SnP is correct, but misleading advertisment brochure providing ‘PERFECT LIVING’ is unacceptable when the finishing and material is of low quality…I hate complaining but given no choice…had to do so…so i will see Dato’ Hong in ‘court’

Way is the status now? Everyone is so excited to see the ending story lo

For those complaints many many, why still holding the booking? Arent you bunch of moron threathen to pull out? Show the developer you all walk the talk lo Where mike oh mike, kpc oh kpc ?

Yes …. small is not beauty, TW yet to prove them to all their purchaser yet, not fulfill thier promise.

Whoever want to buy rojak, pls come to here, this site fulll of sabotagers, they rojak the site now with different nick names, but TW sales still going up and up more !

rojak oi…rojak…rojak..oi..rojak….who want to buy rojak?

PAS for ALL :I think the developer will have all kind of bad remark until they complete (if they could but we doubt he could). Worse case, this bad remark will be forever follow them until their other Orange Project. Residence? Avenue? To my experience, althought the law my not favor to purchaser, you all can start write in to the authority and post in this blog, start open the eye from the public and authority. Let the authority scrutinize on their operation and ensure no further cheating happen. Do remember Central Park in Penang island, how badly the authority scrutinized Gxh Choxn Aun. As buyer, you all also can ask the authority to show you the actual plan, check how much it different from the original plan. Of cos, if you all really need help, you can look for me. I have fren in the ADUN office could help you guy to push and uphold fairness for you all. my email: pasforallkerai@yahoo.com

Come potong first, then we will help u to get a free renovated house from TW !

AhTu :
@V@gmal.my
as i know laa..got 1 specialist hospital KPJ near to bandar Perda Jusco there lor….how good are doctors eh experience compare to island that one i not sure liao…hehe. but i think island eh specialist should b better than mainland laa cause more specialist hospitals in island compare to mainland ma….hehe..

Thank-you……..

Pls be aware, all purchaser should be work together. stop shooting each other. we are jiran or nebor. Need to support each other if any of the purchaser complain to Tw. If you all deny and not work a team, Tw will take advantage of you all.
Good luck u all, Orange Villa buyer.

OVillaBuyer :

Harmonic :

RearBuyer104 :AhTu. Heard that start to have purchaser got offer cancellation from Tw. Cud u all tell me what is the offer? Purchaser got suffer loss or not? i ask u becos some said u are Tw rep in the blog. If this is real, i think i really make a wrong buy already. i am really worry, how bad the situation will turn out to be. I also expect my house quality and good. worth every single dollar i paid for.

How bad is this Tw, how can they asking purchaser to withdraw. Are they paying the current/latest price? and cover snp, loan lawyer fee that purchaser that already paid. If yes, this will be a good deal, could make little money and get rid of this problemaic and inexperience developer. go to buy gemilang, carnation and hill view are better deal.

Worry that tahwah only select those problematic buyer to offer the cancellation, as this buy are good feedback and complainance. As buyer, we should support them. I developer offer them, should open to all other buyer. Soem thing is very funny and weirt happen for TahWah. Why they select to kick out those purchaser but not choose to listen to them? Sould like, you complain, we will kick u out.Purchase Club committee, pls contact me at prometheus_prai@gmail.com, i would like to join the club and understand more.

Good show, good show.

As TahWah semi-d buyer here, sometime i also feel that Mr Hong should clarify to all purchasers. I am too tired already to continue response to all those real or un-real buyer. TahWah name have been seriously damage and hard to be recover already.

@Marsian

Heard that this is because the problematic buyer try to sabotage tahwah project using this blog.

Wellbacks :@Marsian
Heard that this is because the problematic buyer try to sabotage tahwah project using this blog. May be you are that problematic buyer!

as i know, not only 1 or 2, actaully have about 20-30 members in the purchaser club. I did join them 1 time, and actually they have team up and plan to keep apply pressure to TWah and until TWah response to them and meet them. To me, this are the right of purchaser. If TWah scare of being sabotage, could call up those so call leader and discuss with them. TWah have to put off the fire.

AhTu :As TahWah semi-d buyer here, sometime i also feel that Mr Hong should clarify to all purchasers. I am too tired already to continue response to all those real or un-real buyer. TahWah name have been seriously damage and hard to be recover already.

It is still not late for you to join the club. welcome. pls email you contact to the club admin.

VeryDisappointed :Since developer did not plan to meet the purchaser club, which mean developer did not commit to improve the GnG quality request and improvement. What should the purchase do? To all other buyer or potential buyer, pls do not buy Orange Villa as
1) Developer refuse to meet the Purchaser Club and improvement.2) Show house design is weak and will cos buyer must need to install awning and make the house look ugly.3) No fiber optic line (no UNIFY ready)4) No basic plaster ceiling5) Lousy staircase hand railing (only empty promise but till not no chg)6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM?7) Road from Jalan Betik to Orange Villa too narrow, less then 30 feet, sure traffic jam if have car parking at road side. Purchaser felt being cheated as before sign SnP, sale person say, this is 1st Tah Wah project sure will make it very good one. But when after sign SnP and open of show house, purchaser angry and feedback, and developer refuse to meet them.9) Their company is ‘Perfect Living for Generations’ but from the show house, purchaser felt cheated and angry. Infact, very angry.
What to do:Those potential buyer and house shopper, pls do not buy Orange Villa until they physically change the house staircase railing to a better quality or nicer one.I mean the un-renovated show house (actual one). Altho they promise to chg, buy we worry they will just simply weld another lousy steal rod onto current lousy railing, then tell you all, we are done and now the railing is more safe. Hahahaha ………..
Lesson learn:We will not buy new player project or no-name developer for my future house.Who know, this may be thier 1st and last project?Or May be their first project and un-completed project?TahWah, need to show to all purchaser and shopper.

Then why you all buy Orange Villa, come we offer HillPark at a better environment.

Sorry, HillPark are too deep inside. Pls don not come to Ovilla to adveetize you project. Pls.

hybr1d3d :

alonso :@ Ah Tuyou are not part of the club so you dunno leh. there are many things that we also think it’s overboard but these 2 guys insist to go ahead, their request is really too much, asking for free air cond pipe, plaster ceiling, alarm system, provide additional features to the house that requires submisison of building plan. even the hedges they want the developer to commit to a certain height and shape…this is real joker. haih….no wonder the developer refused to see them. buying a house is a dream but dunno why these 2 guys want to make their life miserable.

that is why FTF discussion was meant for, we gathered the opinions from fellow OVPG members, compile and submit to TW. we understand that some points could not be comply.that is why we need to know what TW could do at minimum. Especially those with safety concern.

All started with a bunch of fussy buyers on a small hand rail issue and blown up to cursing, threathen, face off, begging, crying, smiling, laughing, attacker and defender all around the world have came in to share their piece of view. Admin must always b neutral else no point of having this site if only pro on one side, you can kaki kong kaki song lo

AhTu :As TahWah semi-d buyer here, sometime i also feel that Mr Hong should clarify to all purchasers. I am too tired already to continue response to all those real or un-real buyer. TahWah name have been seriously damage and hard to be recover already.

few days not see this site liao…hehe..this morning wake up n see someone used my nickname here…hehe..funny…hehe…looks like the sabotager getting no points liao laaa…n try to use my nick name to blur the others buyers eh eyes lor….haha…but nvm laa…as i always said ma, smart buyers will make the rite judgement when they plan to buy a house….go n jalan jalan at orange vila site to do own survey first lo if u really interested in is project laa…..just base on the rojak comments at here to make the buy or not buy decision….hard laa….n this site not oni double rojak now, it become super rojak liao…u c the sabotager used my nick name here u will know wat i said is true or not laaa….haha…

V@gmal.my :

AhTu :@V@gmal.my as i know laa..got 1 specialist hospital KPJ near to bandar Perda Jusco there lor….how good are doctors eh experience compare to island that one i not sure liao…hehe. but i think island eh specialist should b better than mainland laa cause more specialist hospitals in island compare to mainland ma….hehe..

Thank-you……..

u r welcome ! hehe…

To be honest, no developer will entertain whoever asking “extra” things even a simple request like change the size of tiles. Bear in mind that their main objective is to maximizing profits (shareholder wealth) and minimizing cost and the last one only come to customer’s value. The simple rules is, you like it you buy, you don’t like it you don’t buy, anytime, any place also the same…why make life so difficult for yourself as there is no ground to argue at all?

XY :To be honest, no developer will entertain whoever asking “extra” things even a simple request like change the size of tiles. Bear in mind that their main objective is to maximizing profits (shareholder wealth) and minimizing cost and the last one only come to customer’s value. The simple rules is, you like it you buy, you don’t like it you don’t buy, anytime, any place also the same…why make life so difficult for yourself as there is no ground to argue at all?

exactly !!! i agree with u …haha…..i hope ur comments will not deleted by Admin later on…hehe..if we signed SnP liao and then complaint want this want that…so signed SnP for what ??????…. hehe…if u really wan this wan that from developer after u had signed SnP liao si, u need to be polite when asking developer ma, n if developer can provide to us, that is the bonus laa…!!! simple teory ma..haha

I wanted to cancell my unit also, anyone can advise how to do it?

A big lesson i learnt, always opt for established developer with trusted name. TW is really sucks!! This company will not go far judging from the way they ignored the purchasers n the way they handled complaints. Buyers can only be cheated once!!

wah. just few months ago i saw many comments that praise about this project. some even condemn other projects and change their decision to buy here. what happen to orange villa?i am so surprise.

it seems the faith of orange villa is like the netherland in Euro. no luck.

holland kia :wah. just few months ago i saw many comments that praise about this project. some even condemn other projects and change their decision to buy here. what happen to orange villa?i am so surprise.
it seems the faith of orange villa is like the netherland in Euro. no luck.

the site oledi super rojak liao…i heard laa 1-2 guys wanted free aircon paiping from developer laa…but they couldn’t get it n now bei song liao n come to sabotage this project lor….really playing kids way laa those 1-2 guys..haha..
signed SnP liao n now want free stuffs from developer si….funny lor…hehehe…

mr. upsad :I wanted to cancell my unit also, anyone can advise how to do it?

if u want to cancel ur unit, call developer to ask

Aiyo… please use more dramatic “Penang Hokkienglish” is you want to imitate the real AhTu lar….

@wbk, u r absolutely right! …simple teori they oso dunno….hehe…as i said ma…they’re just kids….hehe…haha…

@AhTu

Maybe you can login and add an avatar… hehe…

@wbk

good points lor..haha…i like avatar ..hehe..kam xia…hehe

AhTu….. these people are not OV buyer…. if they are real they won’t poison the developer Tah Wah , already sign s&p why want to make so many complaints… if they still keep on saying developer bad things…… Orange Villa cannot be better than Palm Villas in future lor….rite.? very sad……

AhTu is right, this site became rojak now ! From my observation, the fake news are all written by same saboger. Beware on the fake news if you are genuine buyers !!

But hor… whatever the fakers do in this thread also no use one lar… people won’t let go their units or change their mind so easily one lar… people said only less than 10 units left somemore…

Considering the amount of drama in this project, it should be rightfully called : ” OrangeWood “.

Chuah :Wahahahaha…..Rojak Villa now. No more Orange

Kan Neh. Don’t simply use my surname.

And in prime location if I understand correctly. People said location, location, location is not for fun one lor… hehe..

if this project without GnG, the price of house should be cheaper (or drop) and public (anyone) can come to use the facilities. Don’t simply say it without evidence, don’t play play….

I think if they manage to improve the handrail design then all other should be manageable kua…

Real buyers just won’t claim there is change in fundamental thing like G&G, cancellation procedures, or extra free stuffs to certained buyers etc. in the public forum one lar…

Of course the fakers won’t use their name one lar, more interesting is he use other forumer nickname to create smog screen wor… and pretend to be shocking on the “news” somemore… really shok sendiri aje lar… like that really cannot help him liao lar… hehe…

Carlos – As a genuine buyers, we all know this is fake news from sabotagers ! They wanted to create bad name on Ahtu.

Calm down. If u get mad, means u already fall into that guy ‘TRAP’.

AhTu :

XY :To be honest, no developer will entertain whoever asking “extra” things even a simple request like change the size of tiles. Bear in mind that their main objective is to maximizing profits (shareholder wealth) and minimizing cost and the last one only come to customer’s value. The simple rules is, you like it you buy, you don’t like it you don’t buy, anytime, any place also the same…why make life so difficult for yourself as there is no ground to argue at all?

exactly !!! i agree with u …haha…..i hope ur comments will not deleted by Admin later on…hehe..if we signed SnP liao and then complaint want this want that…so signed SnP for what ??????…. hehe…if u really wan this wan that from developer after u had signed SnP liao si, u need to be polite when asking developer ma, n if developer can provide to us, that is the bonus laa…!!! simple teory ma..haha

This perception is not right especially for those developers who wish to stablish their name in the property market.
My friend bought a unit in 2 Permai, Tg Bunga developed by BSG. In its original plan, there is no balcony buy after receiving feedback from buyers (buyers ask to build and willing to pay for it). BSG built the balcony and didnt charge the buyers a single cent! That is the real good developer!

@Penang BMW

It is up to developer and the price range lar… if you are paying > $1M and developer has lots of margin, then can be discussed lar…

Just like southbay plaza, from studio before 2 bedrooms. But the change is before soft launch lar, and all buyers said YES to the change one. They also don’t want people cancel booking because of the change lar…

@Penang BMW

Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.

Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .

Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

If developer entertain buyer’s addtional requests, that is a BONUS to buyers !! 😉

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

YES! absolutely right…….yes……Yes………..YES……………….

kelly :@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

I can’t find anything “additional” here wor. Change and add if total different thing lar… jangan too paranoid lar… even though people said paranoid is secret to longevity… hehe…

kelly :If developer entertain buyer’s addtional requests, that is a BONUS to buyers !!

This one I agree with you lar…

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

CORRECT…… I agree what you said……..

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

I agree this.

wbk :

kelly :@Penang BMW Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

I can’t find anything “additional” here wor. Change and add if total different thing lar… jangan too paranoid lar… even though people said paranoid is secret to longevity… hehe…

I get know that one of the orange villa purchaser club’s request to developer is to have free aircon paiping, isn’t this an additional request?

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

Right… what a good comment.

@kelly

No need to argue lar on this one… not 100% people will install aircon the whole house one lar… so you know already my answer lar… hehe…

Buyer :

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

Right… what a good comment.

Ya ! betul betul.

lee :

Buyer :

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

Right… what a good comment.

Ya ! betul betul.

correct what you said is true

lee :

Buyer :

kelly :@Penang BMW Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

Right… what a good comment.

Ya ! betul betul.

Aiyo… like that also can “impressed” you ah… hehe…

kelly :
@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

i fully agree with your point of view, i am also one of the buyers. from the way 1 or 2 buyers are sabotaging the project, i’m afraid the developer may not be that generous to give additional stuff. i dont understand what’s their purpose of condemning in this forum if they are the real buyers….to get more free stuff?

You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…

But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…

Rule of the game:
#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.
#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO
#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES
#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

wbk :
You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…
But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…
Rule of the game:
#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.
#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO
#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES
#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I totally agree with you….100%

@wbk
hopefully the sabotager will not come back and say we are the developer’s proxy

KingArthur :

VeryDisappointed :Since developer did not plan to meet the purchaser club, which mean developer did not commit to improve the GnG quality request and improvement. What should the purchase do? To all other buyer or potential buyer, pls do not buy Orange Villa as1) Developer refuse to meet the Purchaser Club and improvement.2) Show house design is weak and will cos buyer must need to install awning and make the house look ugly.3) No fiber optic line (no UNIFY ready)4) No basic plaster ceiling5) Lousy staircase hand railing (only empty promise but till not no chg)6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM?7) Road from Jalan Betik to Orange Villa too narrow, less then 30 feet, sure traffic jam if have car parking at road side. Purchaser felt being cheated as before sign SnP, sale person say, this is 1st Tah Wah project sure will make it very good one. But when after sign SnP and open of show house, purchaser angry and feedback, and developer refuse to meet them.9) Their company is ‘Perfect Living for Generations’ but from the show house, purchaser felt cheated and angry. Infact, very angry.What to do:Those potential buyer and house shopper, pls do not buy Orange Villa until they physically change the house staircase railing to a better quality or nicer one.I mean the un-renovated show house (actual one). Altho they promise to chg, buy we worry they will just simply weld another lousy steal rod onto current lousy railing, then tell you all, we are done and now the railing is more safe. Hahahaha ………..Lesson learn:We will not buy new player project or no-name developer for my future house.Who know, this may be thier 1st and last project?Or May be their first project and un-completed project?TahWah, need to show to all purchaser and shopper.

Then why you all buy Orange Villa, come we offer HillPark at a better environment.

No, Carnation Villa is also good recommendation.

Btw, why orange villa show hous until today still not chg their hand rail after promise by developer so long? I doubt you all are real buyer (or actually is TahWah proxy here). I did not see anyone of you, AhTu, kalilo, Polar Bear………… show any sense of urgent on developer promise. Hahahahahaha. That why u all have fall into a ‘BlackShop’ already.

All purchaser, believe you have start to receive payment collection from TahWah for the next 10% progressive payment, believe this are still not from the bank yet. We would urge u all hold on the payment first, as we need to use this to puch developer to fulfill their promise on our interest. Stair case hand rail? unifi? air-con point? Pls call TahWah office as individual then and ask them when will they make it and show it to us. Then appeal to only release the payment before you settle your next 10% progressive payment.
The more you release the payment, the deeper we sink into this problem. If the answer not good and no dateline promise, pls ask for purchasing cancellation. We have to act as a big Purchaser Team. If individual act, sure will failed one, if act as a big team, dont you think TahWah boss got to listen to us.

What ever feedback or letter or phone call to TahWah, they can choose to ignore. But if we on-hold the progressive payment, TahWah sure will response one. Team, let us start our real pressure to TahWah and fight for our interest. My message to TahWah, pls dont think this is a short moment of fight, it will be a long term fight if you did not show good quality andf good attitude when dealing with purchaser. You are really ‘out’ that you totally did not understand the real business natural of ‘Customer Come First’, need to treat customer well.

Lastly, we urge all individual or purchaser club committee who have post feedback or complain letter to TahWah, to post the full complain letter on this blog, to let all of the purchaser or potential buyer or public to review our effort. To let public judge on how is the response from TahWah and how in-experience that this TahWah build and run a so-called GnG garden house. Then you all should continue to hold the payment and monitor the response or letter from TahWah. Until we see TahWah have start dismental the should house lousy staircase railling and promise to install unifi line, then only we release the next 10% payment.

If you have doubt, pls refer back to this forum and listen to the public input. Pls smart enough to differentiate who is TahWah proxy in this forum.

Stop paying you next payment portion will result in developer cannot pull the big $$$ from the bank. They will run out of blood or cash if they continue to forget the promise and not show us sense or urgent of making the change. We should apply such pressure to TahWah who continue to show stuborn and very bad attitude to purchaser. How can one of their Director scold purhcaser who make complain or feedback to cancell the purchaser. A way of threatern purchaser or behave gangster way? At the first place the purchaser are actually started with solve approuch and aim for an Win-Win situation from developer. But developer not handing well on this canse and behave too much ‘BOSSY’ to purchaser and threatern to cancelled the SnP (but TahWah, Mr Chxxng have not detail given how to cancell). Our stand is, if give cancellation, pls publish the cancellation package and let all purchaser to choose or continue to release the next 10% progressive payment) avoid innocent purchasr continue to me victimize or manupulating by bad attitude of TahWah. Purchaser, this is our last choise, we have to work together to ‘drive’ or ‘puch’ developer to response to our interest.

While the payment control still in our hand, we need to ensure Developer do not touch our Bank Loan (could be 70% to 90%) of the loan. Once release, you will become the real meat on the chopping board of TahWah.

Never under estimate the unity power of this so-called Purchaser Group. If 30% to 50% of them team up, i think Tawah will have tough time to run their operation smoothly. Just do not understand why Tawah why to confront their customer. Do think they are 1-2 only, hehehe. Let me Birdyman see how Tawah end this drama. Goodshow, good show.

Confrontation :Lastly, we urge all individual or purchaser club committee who have post feedback or complain letter to TahWah, to post the full complain letter on this blog, to let all of the purchaser or potential buyer or public to review our effort. To let public judge on how is the response from TahWah and how in-experience that this TahWah build and run a so-called GnG garden house. Then you all should continue to hold the payment and monitor the response or letter from TahWah. Until we see TahWah have start dismental the should house lousy staircase railling and promise to install unifi line, then only we release the next 10% payment.

Pls post faster, let us this what u guy actually asking? Gold or diamond toilet bowl …. hehehehe …………….. too bad that Tawah have this group of very smart buyer.

Polar Bear :

wbk :You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…Rule of the game:#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I totally agree with you….100%

You are welcomed… hehe…

Once the SPA has been signed, any delay of payment will result you being charged late paymnent interest ( irrespective of buyer portion or bank portion(if buyer delay in applying bank loan)). Interest should be 10% per annum, daily rest calculation. You guys has been pretty hard on the developer, no wonder they choose to ignore all demands and proceed with construction as per SPA specs. Most people are “sau yun mm sau ngang”. I believe most buyers who bought a unit here as not that tech savvy or rather doesnt even know the existence of this webby…only a handful of them are here, thus the multiple username with the same IP address. Dont mind if i ask, are you working in the MNC such like Intel and such?

wbk :You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…
But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…
Rule of the game:#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I agree with you !

kelly :@Penang BMW
Developers have right to do or not to do, to entertaint or not to entertaint your requests once you’d signed the S&P. As long as developer follow and build accordingly on the terms in the signed S&P, then they’re in the save site because they’re not violating anything there. So when you’re planning to request an addtional stuffs from developers which are not written in your S&P, you would need to request or talk in the polite ways with your developer.
Ahtu is right, if you dealt with your developer in a harsh way(or “GU(lembu)”) way, you will get nothing from them, Big small or branded developers all same, no one like the buyer who behave impolitely, trying to threathen developer business using internet is not right as well, remember you’re asking addtional stuffs from them which are not stated in your signed S&P ! .
Developers always in the winning site if they’re build your house according to signed S&P !!. You should read carefully your S&P before your signed it. If you’re not agree with the terms that stated in your S&P, don’t sign it and don’t buy ! Why make it so hard ?

I agree with you as well.

I saw many kia su aunties here… hehe…

Lim :

wbk :You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…Rule of the game:#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I agree with you !

This is true.

Those aunties thought they’re buying vege in pasar !

Conclusion:
#1: Trying to get free stuffs after SnP = kiasu aunties
#2: Trying to fix the dangeroud design = reasonable aunties/uncles

Hehe…

that why purchaser need to stand unity. The are many case developer respect feedback

Developer agreed to change unsafety design such as staircase and its handrail , I called developer and this is confirmed changed, but those 1-2 kiasu aunties want more free “vege”. They want to cook lobster in their house but their wallet no $$$ liao, so asking for free lo. hehe

But the problem is –> “Those kiasu aunties elected the insane ‘auntie’ as their leader. That is why those kiasu auntie hit the wall always, they will hit the wall again if they followed their leader’s advise to hold on the progressive payment. They forgot they already signed the SNP and loan agreement with uncle Hong, they thought those agreements a toilet paper only. hehe

@Sars

Can try lar… demokrasi la… Best is to pay a lawyer to do the job if you really think you have a case lor… hehe…

Harping people here and there for aunties-style unity no use one lar…

Confrontation :While the payment control still in our hand, we need to ensure Developer do not touch our Bank Loan (could be 70% to 90%) of the loan. Once release, you will become the real meat on the chopping board of TahWah.

aiyo….hehe…pls dun mislead ppl here laaa ! if you oledi sign loan agreeement laaa, you’ll kena interest penalty from developer if you purposely do late payment to them lor…hehe…, unless developer agree to obserb ur late payment eh interest laaa…go back read ur loan agreement laa..10% per annum lor….not 1% per annnum la…hehe..so dun play play lor….hehe.. I don’t think developer will obserb your interest if u purposely buat kacau n don’t wan to pay on progressive payment lor..hehe…but all is up to u laaa…if u think u r rich enough n the 10% per annum interest not a big deal to u ..then go ahead n play with developer lor…c who will win in this gila eh game…i bet laaa… developer will win lor….cause they not think ur SnP plus ur loan agreement are sampah or toilet paper that can be recycle lor..haha……if u think u r veli veli rich n u can do whatever u like with ur $$$$$$ such as jo luan with dun want to pay for progressive payment to developer, go ahead laaa…nothing wrong too maa……haha…this is democrazy world ma….haha…

@AhTu

Nobody wins except for lawyers lar… hehe…

Can you please use more dramatic “Penang Hokkienglish” in the future please? Hehe…

AhTu :

Confrontation :While the payment control still in our hand, we need to ensure Developer do not touch our Bank Loan (could be 70% to 90%) of the loan. Once release, you will become the real meat on the chopping board of TahWah.

aiyo….hehe…pls dun mislead ppl here laaa ! if you oledi sign loan agreeement laaa, you’ll kena interest penalty from developer if you purposely do late payment to them lor…hehe…, unless developer agree to obserb ur late payment eh interest laaa…go back read ur loan agreement laa..10% per annum lor….not 1% per annnum la…hehe..so dun play play lor….hehe.. I don’t think developer will obserb your interest if u purposely buat kacau n don’t wan to pay on progressive payment lor..hehe…but all is up to u laaa…if u think u r rich enough n the 10% per annum interest not a big deal to u ..then go ahead n play with developer lor…c who will win in this gila eh game…i bet laaa… developer will win lor….cause they not think ur SnP plus ur loan agreement are sampah or toilet paper that can be recycle lor..haha……if u think u r veli veli rich n u can do whatever u like with ur $$$$$$ such as jo luan with dun want to pay for progressive payment to developer, go ahead laaa…nothing wrong too maa……haha…this is democrazy world ma….haha…

AHTu…….correct I agree what you said…..hehe

@wbk

my englishi is like that lor…dramatic penang hokkien englishi or not …that 1 i dunno laaa..haha…even i tak chek bo kuan …but i still know wat is hap tan mean lor…haha..hehe..if signed hap tan liao n not follow hap tan eh rules kia…will kena sue 1 laaa..developer or buyer …which party bo tui hap tan eh rules kia…that party will kena sue lor….hehe…when kena sui si laaa, u nid to gaji lawyer to fight for u lor…but in late payment case, i still bet developer will win lor….haha….so dun li li when u oledi signed hap tan liao lor…haha..

went to the site again…..saw lot of workers n lori lori keluar masuk….surrounding si pek bo eng…n c developer start focus on the houses at swimming pool eh site liao..hehe…good progress laaa..haha..u all ju sabotage, ju fast n smooth this project jalan…haha….good laa..huat ah heng ah orange vila….haha…

AhTu :@wbk
my englishi is like that lor…dramatic penang hokkien englishi or not …that 1 i dunno laaa..haha…even i tak chek bo kuan …but i still know wat is hap tan mean lor…haha..hehe..if signed hap tan liao n not follow hap tan eh rules kia…will kena sue 1 laaa..developer or buyer …which party bo tui hap tan eh rules kia…that party will kena sue lor….hehe…when kena sui si laaa, u nid to gaji lawyer to fight for u lor…but in late payment case, i still bet developer will win lor….haha….so dun li li when u oledi signed hap tan liao lor…haha..

Just to test you lar… that’s more like it lor… but after so much huha by real buyers, fake buyers, supporters, competitors, proxies, TW eh lang, aunties, the good chi already changed liao lar…. normally places with too much arguement do not have good feng shui one lor… this year also not the year of the chicken… hehe…

wbk :

AhTu :@wbk my englishi is like that lor…dramatic penang hokkien englishi or not …that 1 i dunno laaa..haha…even i tak chek bo kuan …but i still know wat is hap tan mean lor…haha..hehe..if signed hap tan liao n not follow hap tan eh rules kia…will kena sue 1 laaa..developer or buyer …which party bo tui hap tan eh rules kia…that party will kena sue lor….hehe…when kena sui si laaa, u nid to gaji lawyer to fight for u lor…but in late payment case, i still bet developer will win lor….haha….so dun li li when u oledi signed hap tan liao lor…haha..

Just to test you lar… that’s more like it lor… but after so much huha by real buyers, fake buyers, supporters, competitors, proxies, TW eh lang, aunties, the good chi already changed liao lar…. normally places with too much arguement do not have good feng shui one lor… this year also not the year of the chicken… hehe…

aiyo..buyers not stupid laa…hehe…they will go to the site n do survey 1 n ask the developer if they hv concerns on the issues raised at here lor….hehe…now buyer r buying house laaa not sayur laa….hehe…oni gong gong eh potential buyers will believe the hu hu ha ha n fake comments or fake news posted at here laa…hehe…if u a smarts buyer laaa n u hv concerns on the issues that brought up by 1-2 same sabotagers with different nicknames laaa..then simple maa..y not just give a call to developer or walk to developer office n ask laaa…hehe..aiyo..so simple teori maa…rite?..hehe…the sabotagers thought all ppls here are gong gong eh lang..haha…they thought easy to influence potential buyers or smart real buyers eh interest to this project….as i said ma, the sabotagers ju hu hu ha ha at this site, the developer eh bisiness lagi hor lor….u c not many unit left there u know how good is developer eh biz in this project liao laa..hehe…haha…think think kua wat i said is true or not laa….hehe

hey..u guys everyday repeated the same here not boring one meh.

angelina :hey..u guys everyday repeated the same here not boring one meh…

haha..i felt veli boring actually….hehe..but dunno the sabotagers boring or not laa..if they feel not boring n come hu hu ha ha again, then i will feng pei tau teh lor..haha..hehe…

last time de ppl more pure, developer give wat we accept what, where can make noise like tat one, we can only said this developer works no good only. Who ask u before buying time not do the survey.. now still too earlier state, maybe in future after all build finished, then u will see the environment nice then only nothing much to say…

@angelina
They make noise only in this forum. Talk is cheap. They can hu ha as long as they like. Rules still the same. We have to accept whatever developer give.

Confrontation :Stop paying you next payment portion will result in developer cannot pull the big $$$ from the bank. They will run out of blood or cash if they continue to forget the promise and not show us sense or urgent of making the change. We should apply such pressure to TahWah who continue to show stuborn and very bad attitude to purchaser. How can one of their Director scold purhcaser who make complain or feedback to cancell the purchaser. A way of threatern purchaser or behave gangster way? At the first place the purchaser are actually started with solve approuch and aim for an Win-Win situation from developer. But developer not handing well on this canse and behave too much ‘BOSSY’ to purchaser and threatern to cancelled the SnP (but TahWah, Mr Chxxng have not detail given how to cancell). Our stand is, if give cancellation, pls publish the cancellation package and let all purchaser to choose or continue to release the next 10% progressive payment) avoid innocent purchasr continue to me victimize or manupulating by bad attitude of TahWah. Purchaser, this is our last choise, we have to work together to ‘drive’ or ‘puch’ developer to response to our interest.

YOU JUMP ! SORRY, I WILL NOT FOLLOW U TO JUMP…IF YOU CHOOSE TO DIE, BO PENG LIAO LO, YOU GO DIED YOURSELF LO !

THIS IS BECAUSE limpek no $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to pay late payment interest to developer. Haha.

Wellbacks :

Lim :

wbk :You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…
Rule of the game:
#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.
#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO
#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES
#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I agree with you !

This is true.

You are welcomed too… hehe

wbk :

Wellbacks :

Lim :

wbk :You know sometime some aunties like to take free stuff from the vegetable seller. Bought some kailan but before they left take some spring onion for free… the seller also bo huat…But please don’t make it a habit even come to buying a house lar… hehe…
Rule of the game:
#1: SnP signing – read and read and read before signing.
#2: Ask for additional free stuff after SnP – NO
#3: Amend the dangerous design – YES
#4: Other personal preference after SnP – DUN WASTE OTHER PEOPLE TIME

I agree with you !

This is true.

You are welcomed too… hehe

WBK, are you a buyer?

@AhTu

But hor, smart buyers also sometimes can turn desperate one lar… if not where got so much attack, counter attack, face-off, imitate, copycat drama here ler? So far still yet to see win win situation for OV future residents and developer lor… That’s why make me think this got to do with bad fengshui there lar… since this year is not year of the chicken. hehe..

summary is tis not related to feng sui laa..hehe…feng sui related to angin n water n ji lor…not the buyer altitude laa….hehe…

@AhTu

Fengshui related to many things lar… people argue everyday maybe also because of the fengshui of the place no good lor… then why many buyers ask you “are you real ah tu?”, “Are you phantom or real?”, “Are you developer proxy?” just my perception lar… hehe..

But hor, when you questioned the purchaser club intelligent on choosing their leaders you might be asking for backfire lar… where got people like to be criticised like that one… hehe… everybody tot they are smarter than other people one lor, especially the property investors… hehe…

@grandfather

Then you should share with them the right process lar… fighting fire with fire no use one lor… as i said, nobody win lor… you angry, bird also angry, ahtu also angry, TW also angry…everybody angry where got good?

wbk :@AhTu
Fengshui related to many things lar… people argue everyday maybe also because of the fengshui of the place no good lor… then why many buyers ask you “are you real ah tu?”, “Are you phantom or real?”, “Are you developer proxy?” just my perception lar… hehe..
But hor, when you questioned the purchaser club intelligent on choosing their leaders you might be asking for backfire lar… where got people like to be criticised like that one… hehe… everybody tot they are smarter than other people one lor, especially the property investors… hehe…

for me…i can listen to anyone advise if i m doing wrong things n someone critisized me laa..i will accept the critisized lor if i really did wrong..i m always in learning in my job or in my life lor……hehe…we nid to be humble n respect ppl critisai if we r really doing wrong laaa…hehe..i m ok if i kena fire by those angry angry person lor…hehe…kam xia for remind me laa..hehe..u r in internet oso..if u mad with some developers laa..u can oso easily create chaos in other blog maa…cause at here…it is freedom to create lot of nick names maa..hehe…rite? my message may b deleted by admin again lor…haha…so wat i want to tell u is how u know lot of buyers are angry here? so by seeing the angry comments here cannot determine the good or bad of one place laaa…feng sui is not like that laa..u should study lilian tu n oso jimmy yap eh fenshui books, then u will know wat i said is true or false liao laa..hehe

wbk :@grandfather
Then you should share with them the right process lar… fighting fire with fire no use one lor… as i said, nobody win lor… you angry, bird also angry, ahtu also angry, TW also angry…everybody angry where got good?

u said i m angry too..hehe…that is not correct laa…i m not angry laa..in fact, i m always in happy stage always laa..y make our life so hard ..life is short oni..we nid to enjoy our life..everyday njoy it even we r stressed with our jobs n life….so be happy lor…think positive aways n be polite to ppl, learn from ppl no matter they’re younger or older from u….remember life is short…no nid angry angry 1 laa….hehe..haha..

@AhTu

Where got people admit they lose their cool one… hehe..

i think alot of people who read this blog can feel the angry here and there lor… First they angry the handrail, then the aircon piping, then got people almost faint somemore. After that got people angry you din reveal yourself, then got people angry that you din join their club, then you angry they push you too hard, then got people angry TW din want to meet them. after that got people angry no black and white on handrail change… i can go on and on and on and on one lar… hehe…

wbk :@AhTu
Where got people admit they lose their cool one… hehe..
i think alot of people who read this blog can feel the angry here and there lor… First they angry the handrail, then the aircon piping, then got people almost faint somemore. After that got people angry you din reveal yourself, then got people angry that you din join their club, then you angry they push you too hard, then got people angry TW din want to meet them. after that got people angry no black and white on handrail change… i can go on and on and on and on one lar… hehe…

that is their choice is they choose to be angry……..i choose to be happy always…that is ppl right ..i mean ppl right to choose they’re happy or angry lwhen deal with stuffs or person or…. democrazy ma !!! haha..

@ck wong

Almost forgot about you. Sorry lar… but wassup bro?

We got to recap again, as too many developer proxy in this forum d.

All purchaser, believe you have start to receive payment collection from TahWah for the next 10% progressive payment, believe this are still not from the bank yet. We would urge u all hold on the payment first, as we need to use this to puch developer to fulfill their promise on our interest. Stair case hand rail? unifi? air-con point? Pls call TahWah office as individual then and ask them when will they make it and show it to us. Then appeal to only release the payment before you settle your next 10% progressive payment.
The more you release the payment, the deeper we sink into this problem. If the answer not good and no dateline promise, pls ask for purchasing cancellation. We have to act as a big Purchaser Team. If individual act, sure will failed one, if act as a big team, dont you think TahWah boss got to listen to us.
What ever feedback or letter or phone call to TahWah, they can choose to ignore. But if we on-hold the progressive payment, TahWah sure will response one. Team, let us start our real pressure to TahWah and fight for our interest. My message to TahWah, pls dont think this is a short moment of fight, it will be a long term fight if you did not show good quality andf good attitude when dealing with purchaser. You are really ‘out’ that you totally did not understand the real business natural of ‘Customer Come First’, need to treat customer well.
Lastly, we urge all individual or purchaser club committee who have post feedback or complain letter to TahWah, to post the full complain letter on this blog, to let all of the purchaser or potential buyer or public to review our effort. To let public judge on how is the response from TahWah and how in-experience that this TahWah build and run a so-called GnG garden house. Then you all should continue to hold the payment and monitor the response or letter from TahWah. Until we see TahWah have start dismental the should house lousy staircase railling and promise to install unifi line, then only we release the next 10% payment. If you have doubt, pls refer back to this forum and listen to the public input. Pls smart enough to differentiate who is TahWah proxy in this forum.
Stop paying you next payment portion will result in developer cannot pull the big $$$ from the bank. They will run out of blood or cash if they continue to forget the promise and not show us sense or urgent of making the change. We should apply such pressure to TahWah who continue to show stuborn and very bad attitude to purchaser. How can one of their Director scold purhcaser who make complain or feedback to cancell the purchaser. A way of threatern purchaser or behave gangster way? At the first place the purchaser are actually started with solve approuch and aim for an Win-Win situation from developer. But developer not handing well on this canse and behave too much ‘BOSSY’ to purchaser and threatern to cancelled the SnP (but TahWah, Mr Chxxng have not detail given how to cancell). Our stand is, if give cancellation, pls publish the cancellation package and let all purchaser to choose or continue to release the next 10% progressive payment) avoid innocent purchasr continue to me victimize or manupulating by bad attitude of TahWah. Purchaser, this is our last choise, we have to work together to ‘drive’ or ‘puch’ developer to response to our interest. While the payment control still in our hand, we need to ensure Developer do not touch our Bank Loan (could be 70% to 90%) of the loan. Once release, you will become the real meat on the chopping board of TahWah.

confrontation,

i support 1000%. It is so obvious the developer’s proxies are trying to paint a different picture.

showhouse quality is substandard…

hold back your monies….NOW

AhTu :
……so be patient la…tembak the developer n try to threaten them by giving bad comments here will not solve the issue la…this is really a kids ways la…..it will make the issue more complicated laa…hehe…most of our tiang rumah pun not see it lagi, n u guys hu ha here liao…funny la…hehe…haha…

I’ve almost given up following this forum because I can’t stand those lunatic sabotagers who trying to take the chances by pretending to be 1 of us, disappointed buyers AND those Tah Wah worshippers who is either Tah Wah hired phantom buyers or property investors who have no balls to show face and only care about their property’s value instead of the quality Tah Wah have been given so far.

If someone think that what I’ve said before -> “things will get ugly depend on Tah Wah decision” sounds like Taigor threatening the developer, I feel so sorry for that person for his cheapo mindset.
Again I said, developers attitude and decision will highly impact their decision.
Why I have purposely put this reminder in public is because I’ve seen Hong’s LCLY attitude.
I’ve foreseen their decision to ignore buyers appointment request since SnP have been signed and they feel they dont have to waste their effort to entertain customer anymore. Bingo, just like what I tot. FYI, Cheong initial told me was to send in a official letter and they will decide if they want to meet us OR NOT. this has clearly shown their ignorance again, before we sent it the letter.

These few days I did heard that they did some improvement to the show house based on our requisition, but I wonder why they are so lazy to even agree with the meeting and at least clarify the improvements to the buyer? too bad their LCLY attitude remain the same.

As for Unify, did some research. TM is no longer installing copper line to new residential area. and Optic fibre line is more cheaper than copper. So, it’s not that Tah Wah don’t want to implant, it’s just that Tah Wah is sooo effing lazy to find out from Telekom Malaysia.

So, I hope this will give all you guys a little idea why we are so upset. it’s not because Developer could not comply with the request we made, it’s their LCLY attitude and laziness which pissed us off.

By the way, if the show house was up to the committed quality, none of these complaints will be made. Come on, don’t tell me you guys are happy with the cheapy IKEA furniture and decoration in the showhouse, and the total show house value rumored to worth 1.3 Million in BM? That stupid and unpractical design corner Terrace house? seriously? 1.3 Million?

By the way, I understand that those Tah Wah staff have to follow orders, so, the LCLY I’ve pointed is mainly because of their board of director. especially that Dato’ who expect people to pay him RM500K++ and respect him because he got himself a Dato’ title…..
pathetic

You want respect? work hard to gain it, not buying with money… I’m saying the same thing to PM too.

Don’t forget, we ARE your customer after all, we did not owe you even one penny that we have to pay you and worship you like an idiot.

hybr1d3d :

AhTu :……so be patient la…tembak the developer n try to threaten them by giving bad comments here will not solve the issue la…this is really a kids ways la…..it will make the issue more complicated laa…hehe…most of our tiang rumah pun not see it lagi, n u guys hu ha here liao…funny la…hehe…haha…

I’ve almost given up following this forum because I can’t stand those lunatic sabotagers who trying to take the chances by pretending to be 1 of us, disappointed buyers AND those Tah Wah worshippers who is either Tah Wah hired phantom buyers or property investors who have no balls to show face and only care about their property’s value instead of the quality Tah Wah have been given so far.
If someone think that what I’ve said before -> “things will get ugly depend on Tah Wah decision” sounds like Taigor threatening the developer, I feel so sorry for that person for his cheapo mindset.Again I said, developers attitude and decision will highly impact their decision.Why I have purposely put this reminder in public is because I’ve seen Hong’s LCLY attitude.I’ve foreseen their decision to ignore buyers appointment request since SnP have been signed and they feel they dont have to waste their effort to entertain customer anymore. Bingo, just like what I tot. FYI, Cheong initial told me was to send in a official letter and they will decide if they want to meet us OR NOT. this has clearly shown their ignorance again, before we sent it the letter.
These few days I did heard that they did some improvement to the show house based on our requisition, but I wonder why they are so lazy to even agree with the meeting and at least clarify the improvements to the buyer? too bad their LCLY attitude remain the same.
As for Unify, did some research. TM is no longer installing copper line to new residential area. and Optic fibre line is more cheaper than copper. So, it’s not that Tah Wah don’t want to implant, it’s just that Tah Wah is sooo effing lazy to find out from Telekom Malaysia.
So, I hope this will give all you guys a little idea why we are so upset. it’s not because Developer could not comply with the request we made, it’s their LCLY attitude and laziness which pissed us off.
By the way, if the show house was up to the committed quality, none of these complaints will be made. Come on, don’t tell me you guys are happy with the cheapy IKEA furniture and decoration in the showhouse, and the total show house value rumored to worth 1.3 Million in BM? That stupid and unpractical design corner Terrace house? seriously? 1.3 Million?

Just cannot tahan, giving away my hard earn money and yet need to see thier LCLY face. Where is the fairness for purchaser. That why we are soooooooo piss off with this Hong. Why so difficult to meet us? All pls hold back you hard earn money, until you satisfy their response. Pos their response here, let public review first.

@hybr1d3d
I can see your anger as i am hot too.

hybr1d3d :By the way, I understand that those Tah Wah staff have to follow orders, so, the LCLY I’ve pointed is mainly because of their board of director. especially that Dato’ who expect people to pay him RM500K++ and respect him because he got himself a Dato’ title…..pathetic
You want respect? work hard to gain it, not buying with money… I’m saying the same thing to PM too.
Don’t forget, we ARE your customer after all, we did not owe you even one penny that we have to pay you and worship you like an idiot.

Pallerelly, while we hold back the 10% progressive payment, we should post all the letter reply and our fair request online to let public view. Good or bad, a real buyer should support no matter how.

BTW, i had spoken to my bank…I had asked to hold withold the loan payment until they had viewed the showhouse….

I told them if they think the quality is acceptable, they can go ahead with the loan release but if not, they should withold the payment…

You have to do all this in writing…to be official…

Yes, if that is the bank portion. But coming 10% is still our portion. We have control on it. Pls hold our money till response from Tawah

Confrontation :We got to recap again, as too many developer proxy in this forum d.
All purchaser, believe you have start to receive payment collection from TahWah for the next 10% progressive payment, believe this are still not from the bank yet. We would urge u all hold on the payment first, as we need to use this to puch developer to fulfill their promise on our interest. Stair case hand rail? unifi? air-con point? Pls call TahWah office as individual then and ask them when will they make it and show it to us. Then appeal to only release the payment before you settle your next 10% progressive payment.The more you release the payment, the deeper we sink into this problem. If the answer not good and no dateline promise, pls ask for purchasing cancellation. We have to act as a big Purchaser Team. If individual act, sure will failed one, if act as a big team, dont you think TahWah boss got to listen to us.What ever feedback or letter or phone call to TahWah, they can choose to ignore. But if we on-hold the progressive payment, TahWah sure will response one. Team, let us start our real pressure to TahWah and fight for our interest. My message to TahWah, pls dont think this is a short moment of fight, it will be a long term fight if you did not show good quality andf good attitude when dealing with purchaser. You are really ‘out’ that you totally did not understand the real business natural of ‘Customer Come First’, need to treat customer well.Lastly, we urge all individual or purchaser club committee who have post feedback or complain letter to TahWah, to post the full complain letter on this blog, to let all of the purchaser or potential buyer or public to review our effort. To let public judge on how is the response from TahWah and how in-experience that this TahWah build and run a so-called GnG garden house. Then you all should continue to hold the payment and monitor the response or letter from TahWah. Until we see TahWah have start dismental the should house lousy staircase railling and promise to install unifi line, then only we release the next 10% payment. If you have doubt, pls refer back to this forum and listen to the public input. Pls smart enough to differentiate who is TahWah proxy in this forum.Stop paying you next payment portion will result in developer cannot pull the big $$$ from the bank. They will run out of blood or cash if they continue to forget the promise and not show us sense or urgent of making the change. We should apply such pressure to TahWah who continue to show stuborn and very bad attitude to purchaser. How can one of their Director scold purhcaser who make complain or feedback to cancell the purchaser. A way of threatern purchaser or behave gangster way? At the first place the purchaser are actually started with solve approuch and aim for an Win-Win situation from developer. But developer not handing well on this canse and behave too much ‘BOSSY’ to purchaser and threatern to cancelled the SnP (but TahWah, Mr Chxxng have not detail given how to cancell). Our stand is, if give cancellation, pls publish the cancellation package and let all purchaser to choose or continue to release the next 10% progressive payment) avoid innocent purchasr continue to me victimize or manupulating by bad attitude of TahWah. Purchaser, this is our last choise, we have to work together to ‘drive’ or ‘puch’ developer to response to our interest. While the payment control still in our hand, we need to ensure Developer do not touch our Bank Loan (could be 70% to 90%) of the loan. Once release, you will become the real meat on the chopping board of TahWah.

Since you recap recap and recap your interest here… I need to break it down piece by piece lar…. So far only three things that you mentioned here lar…

#1: Handrail: People already said will change already wat… just ask for black and white from them lar… I think this is reasonable lor since you said it is dangerous… but don’t expect it to be like Rosmah punya house one lar… hehe…

#2: Unifi: please lar… register at Telecom lar if you want them to bring the Unifi to OV. But hor… when OV complete. I am sure Telecom agent will have booth in front of your door step lar… now my house there also got already… hehe…

#3: Air-con point: SnP said how many aircon point? That will be your aircon point lar… if you want conceal piping, pay lar… copper wor… you want people to fetch you billl meh?

Buy14 :BTW, i had spoken to my bank…I had asked to hold withold the loan payment until they had viewed the showhouse….
I told them if they think the quality is acceptable, they can go ahead with the loan release but if not, they should withold the payment…
You have to do all this in writing…to be official…

This is way to go lor… use legal way is the best… bravo… bank sure have your SnP, can compare agreement vs actual ma… hehe

anyway laaa..i will still bet developer will win laaa..cause as i said maaa….most of our tiangs eh house still not c it lagi maa…hard to judge ur house eh quality n material at this stage lor…n remember sometimes we will called show house a “sample house” nia lor….i hope u know wat is mean by “SAMPLE” lor……hehe….

@AhTu

No need to pour cold water so soon lor… nowadays bankers and lawyers very smart one lar… the deer will die in whose hand is yet to be known lor… hehe…

no every one of us have the list. Pls hold back the payment, call developer ask when will the chg the handrail

AhTu…… if they use legal way , can the OV project stop……?

Wah! Many Sabotagers here! Real buyers should directly refer to the OV management office. They open everyday!

@orangeee

Very good idea…. bravo.

V@gmal.my :AhTu…… if they use legal way , can the OV project stop……?

i dun think so laaa…buyers not stupid n bank also n stupid laa n lawyer oso not stupid laa..oni 1-2 ppls may b gong gong nia lor…..hehe….u c they come here to hu hu ha ha to gain more support then u will know not many ppl support their way lor…haha….but as long as they r using the rite way …i mean legal way to get wat they want laaa…then better than play dirty such as came here to hu hu ha hua laa…hehe….rite? hehehe..

@orangeee

ya lor….i agree with u orangeee….developer opis open everyday maa….hehe..call to ask ma if hv any questions or doubt…….but be polite laaa when u talk to sales person si …..u polite ppl will polite back laaa…u gu ppl will gu back laa..is like that 1 laa…hehe…

AhTu :

V@gmal.my :AhTu…… if they use legal way , can the OV project stop……?

i dun think so laaa…buyers not stupid n bank also n stupid laa n lawyer oso not stupid laa..oni 1-2 ppls may b gong gong nia lor…..hehe….u c they come here to hu hu ha ha to gain more support then u will know not many ppl support their way lor…haha….but as long as they r using the rite way …i mean legal way to get wat they want laaa…then better than play dirty such as came here to hu hu ha hua laa…hehe….rite? hehehe..

I tot bankers and lawyers recognise money dun recognize people one? I really excited to see what would happen lor… hehe…

AhTu :

V@gmal.my :AhTu…… if they use legal way , can the OV project stop……?

i dun think so laaa…buyers not stupid n bank also n stupid laa n lawyer oso not stupid laa..oni 1-2 ppls may b gong gong nia lor…..hehe….u c they come here to hu hu ha ha to gain more support then u will know not many ppl support their way lor…haha….but as long as they r using the rite way …i mean legal way to get wat they want laaa…then better than play dirty such as came here to hu hu ha hua laa…hehe….rite? hehehe..

oh..like that ah…. should not worry lor…. thank-you….

Wah…. so easy to get calmed down one ah… real buyer should be worried since seeing the handrail lor…

Anyway… calm down is good lar… already so much fire here and there already… later got law suit somemore… I like to watch law movie one lar… can be very dramatic one lor… hehe…

holding payment will cost buyers being charged of late payment penalty…who ever suggesting this options clearly 1st time in buying property…consult your loan lawyer before taking this action

wbk :

AhTu :

V@gmal.my :AhTu…… if they use legal way , can the OV project stop……?

i dun think so laaa…buyers not stupid n bank also n stupid laa n lawyer oso not stupid laa..oni 1-2 ppls may b gong gong nia lor…..hehe….u c they come here to hu hu ha ha to gain more support then u will know not many ppl support their way lor…haha….but as long as they r using the rite way …i mean legal way to get wat they want laaa…then better than play dirty such as came here to hu hu ha hua laa…hehe….rite? hehehe..

I tot bankers and lawyers recognise money dun recognize people one? I really excited to see what would happen lor… hehe…

me too …i oso veli excited to c wat would happen next laa……hehe..

@Titanic

Walau… people want to “jump” for you also want to complain… sit back and relaxed lar… hehe..

both sides need to sit down and discuss…blasting each other in the forum is not going to solve problems…

developer wants to make money…buyers want better quality product…

hope a win-win situation can be found….but both parties have to sit down and discuss first…

Any house facing the pool available…I’m interested…I was told all sold out but according to reliable sources….poor sales due to this forum…

@support

Wah… good try… hehe…

buyer13… :Any house facing the pool available…I’m interested…I was told all sold out but according to reliable sources….poor sales due to this forum…

Your reliable resources give you wrong info i believe, why not just give a call to tah wah office to check? according to my reliable resources , very good sales, facing pool all sold out, now only left 10+ units but definitely not facing pool ones

buyer13… :Any house facing the pool available…I’m interested…I was told all sold out but according to reliable sources….poor sales due to this forum…

Any reason you like OV? Mind sharing whats your thoughts after reading all the comments here and seeing the showroom?

as i was skimming thru this forum…now monitored by OV proxies bending to shoot down any bad comments…

i am not a buyer of OV, but to tell the truth, I would be afraid to buy any properties here…

no one wants to sit down and have a meaningful discussion anymore…

I’ll look in BTW…

I like pool side units….those in Gemilang too expensive…in BM, Carnation Villa, traffic jam is a problem…only OV suits my pocket and location..

@buyer13

What are you waiting for? Come to “my sales office” and check out the units available lar… hehe…

support :wbk,
obviously you are the developer…know how to tembak…i am not siding anyone…
as i was skimming thru this forum…now monitored by OV proxies bending to shoot down any bad comments…
i am not a buyer of OV, but to tell the truth, I would be afraid to buy any properties here…
no one wants to sit down and have a meaningful discussion anymore…
I’ll look in BTW…

You can try Permatang Santuary by IJM, better than OV !

Alice :

support :wbk,obviously you are the developer…know how to tembak…i am not siding anyone…as i was skimming thru this forum…now monitored by OV proxies bending to shoot down any bad comments…i am not a buyer of OV, but to tell the truth, I would be afraid to buy any properties here…no one wants to sit down and have a meaningful discussion anymore…I’ll look in BTW…

You can try Permatang Santuary by IJM, better than OV !

u can consider Carnation Villa at bukit minyak, better than permatang santuary and orange villa.

How about Sathu Terrace @ Oneresidence? Close to FTZ and Bayan Baru Precint and Queensbay Mall. 😀

How about Jesselton hills at Alma & BM Utama near kota permai?

Should consider Harmony Residensi at Jalan Betik, same road as OV, low density ! 44units only !

Btw, Sathu Terrace is also gated and guarded with full club house facilities. 😀