the letter from tahwah said maintenance fees will start count from this month(Aug), we cannot get the house key if bank not release $$$$ to them, why we need to pay for August then ? when the time we get key, it will be end of August already.

Cool. We will know how is the quality(material+workmanship) by this developer soon.

anyone already collected the key?

collected already, many defects. last weekend buzying fill the complain form to tahwah.
tahwah site manager is sleeping…the quality is really sxxk!!!!!

material used still ok? They cut any corners?

I saw ppl start selling their unit price around 820k to 830k. Is that reasonable price for sub sale?

Hi, saw they still setup a boot at Pacific Mega Mall last week, does that mean units still available ? Didn’t manage to ask them, too crowded due to lion dance competition and rushed to go back also.
820K to 830K for subsale ? Wah ! Huh !

only left 1 terrace corner unit & semi-d corner if not mistaken..

location is good but problem is quality from this developer so so.
buyer will laugh if still can sell 820-830k for terrace.

many defect, spending whole day just to label it yesterday.

the quality of workmanship & material like ‘sai'(sxit).

I want to sell my unit. Received complaints from neighbour. Can’t install air cond unit at the back of house even is my own unit. too rigit lah !

@Lim Peh

Lim Peh! are you the owner of black Audit Q9 that appeared in OV?

@gohbk76

Every new house will have defect. it’s matter of minor or major. Do not worry if it’s fixable.

Strictly no external wall hacking and
Strictly no air-con compressor simply installation

@Angry Purchaser

are u sure strictly no external wall hacking and no aircon compressor simply installation?
i went to see this taman around 6-6.30pmpm yesterday, i saw some terrace intermediate units already have aircon paiping in their car porch, some already hacked the external wall for kitchen hole and exzos fan hole. i’m wonder if this taman under individual title?

i just talked to guard saying i wanted to see around, guard let me drive in without taken any of my info. i stop my car at club house and changed swimming cloth and enjoy swimming in the swimming pool, the swimming pool is very beautiful, no guard chase me, may be potential buyer is allowed to feel the water in the swimming i guessed.

i can feel that management a bit slack in controlling the rule of this taman, not even slack in controlling the outside ppls to enter this taman, also slack in controlling the house rules. ( Before i did my survey and go to see this taman myself, i called the sales person and they told me this taman is a strata title anyway).

@potential buyer New Security (System newly set up), still got room to improve, come joint us and retified it.

@Chew
As you say, swimming pool is beautiful ma

I saw air cond piping in the porch of one of the unit. Some more if not mistaken the unit has 3×3 tiles and different furnishing. double standard.

wah! so double standard? which unit? must go to visit visit..

Now OV open their swimming pool & club house to public ?

Outsider can swim and use the club house facility now? so siok..let’s go to swim there.

commoner :I saw air cond piping in the porch of one of the unit. Some more if not mistaken the unit has 3×3 tiles and different furnishing. double standard.

Why those units can do what they want to do? the unit owner are TWH boss’s fren and relative ?

The quality is kia si lang. low quality material and poor workmanship. kanna sai….

that’s no 100% perfect workmanship in anywhere.. That’s y they come out a Defect Form for you to fill up. .since under “warranty”, you can complain any of you dont like

try to fling your any other card and the guard will still open the barrier for you.

just fling PLUS touch & go card inside the car, then guard will open barrier for you. you can drive in & park your car in front of club house, enjoy yourself there. security really slack there. i tried few times before. it is working!

I fling with penang bridge touch & go card, guard open the barrier and let me in.

i flinged AEON BIG card and the barrier goes up…

@Sunway W
ohh, branded = no problem

hahaha..ah chai ho liao.

Congrate to all OV1 purchaser. The standard intermediate unit now RM800K and Facing Pool RM900K. Corner Unit RM900K. Semi-D now RM1Million.

@Zeon Prop

were these transacted value ?

Some yes, some no. It is about there.

got value no market? I publish at mudah 2 month d, only 750k also no response, any buyer or owner interested to buy or sell can call or sms to 0124697771, thx.

@agent
what size?

@agent

Most of them are new in property and especially near to BM is not easy
to sell.

agent :got value no market? I publish at mudah 2 month d, only 750k also no response, any buyer or owner interested to buy or sell can call or sms to 0124697771, thx.

You marketing method got problem, that why you have problem to sell it.

I am looking for this area. Pls call 0124792467.

Zeon Prop :

agent :got value no market? I publish at mudah 2 month d, only 750k also no response, any buyer or owner interested to buy or sell can call or sms to 0124697771, thx.

You marketing method got problem, that why you have problem to sell it.

dont act pro here, taman germilang semi d 850k also can sold out, no market must admit, ppl buy house is see house and location not see ur face:-D

Means this developer marketing method got problem? after 3 years still cant fully sold out?

agent :

Zeon Prop :

agent :got value no market? I publish at mudah 2 month d, only 750k also no response, any buyer or owner interested to buy or sell can call or sms to 0124697771, thx.

You marketing method got problem, that why you have problem to sell it.

dont act pro here, taman germilang semi d 850k also can sold out, no market must admit, ppl buy house is see house and location not see ur face:-D

First saw agent complaint about his product publicly…

if ppl who are really interested to get a house, for sure will feel RM750k is cheap lo.. now UDALand Acaria already Rm880k for 3 storey without G&G concept..

I saw so many negative comments here. Izzit still worth to buy this project? By the way, anyone wish to let go of their unit?? I choose to see and believe thn just make decision. My number: 012-5642783. Thanks!

@Wonder
i am one of the owner. upon inspection, quite a number of minor defects were found on units with 3700 sqf unit to be honest. But these are all fixable defect and i do not see any problem with it. come and see the unit by yourself. you will feel it’s place to call home ….

Very quiet place, and close distance to happening area, e.g. Autocity, Aeon Alma, MegaMall, Sunway Carnival. In middle of both Penang Bridge 1&2. Mudah.com ask for 0.9 Million for middle unit. Semi-D now is 1.2 Million.

Very nice place to live. Better than UDA project, Scarlet Villa & Acaria Villa which cost 0.9 Million. UDA project is located at near very busy road Jalan Baru, Prai. The air not healthy.

No doubt this project is very good. I estimate it still has plenty of room for appreciation. If you like it, better fast to grab one.

Ha ha, full of praises by owners.
The nicest place in BM area ?
Next to MPSP sampah lorry parking area and a small river that almost overflow.

@Amy

Really ? I didn’t know that !!!!!!

hello.. MPSP rubbish trucks are stationed near seberang jaya..for the riverbank, i went to check the house everytime heavy rain.. no flood at OV..

No offence. MPSP rubbish trucks and mobile toilet trucks are parked at MPSP compound, can be seen easily from Jalan Betik. Can be seen also from outside Mahkamah. Depending what time you pass by, these trucks are already out to collect rubbish from all over BM area. Trucks are not coming all the way fr S.Jaya. Small river can be seen from Bukit Residence area, Jln Bukit Kechil 1, I think.

If no tell that is the rubbish track, I alos not realize. It is ok, all kind of car park inside the MPSP compound. This is not an issue. Only concern the small river. Developer not proper treat the river.

went to OV yesterday, noticed that some houses already installed door grill at main door and back door with own design & color. Is OV a strata title or individual title? Can someone advise ?

Yu san :
went to OV yesterday, noticed that some houses already installed door grill at main door and back door with own design & color. Is OV a strata title or individual title? Can someone advise ?

It is under strata title, the owners should not install anything that will affect the outlook without prior approval.

@JS

are u sure it is a strata title ? why the door grill at the main door and back door can be different in design/style/color? Management office allow it ?

This is not a good buy then, the outlook of this taman will become rojak in future. Better don’t buy.

Hi all,
Question for my learning : Does strata title will also control the main door and back door grill design and type ? In other words, is external outlook includes main and back door’s grill design and type ?
Anyone knows or can confirm fr the SnP or any agreement ? What about the main gate and car porch’s tiles ?

if u refer to standard deed of mutual agreement for a strata title, the answer is Yes for grill & awning. But i am not sure on car porch’s tiles.

since developer not straight in protecting the house rules , then better don’t buy it. The house value will not appreciate in future if the outlook of taman becoming “rojak” look later.

The funny thing is the resident there not complain the developer(Management of the taman until JMC is formed) on not protecting the house rules.

Orange Kampung stay Modern House … shit !!

Goh454 :
@JS
are u sure it is a strata title ? why the door grill at the main door and back door can be different in design/style/color? Management office allow it ?
This is not a good buy then, the outlook of this taman will become rojak in future. Better don’t buy.

Very sure it’s strata title.

Amateur Only :
Hi all,
Question for my learning : Does strata title will also control the main door and back door grill design and type ? In other words, is external outlook includes main and back door’s grill design and type ?
Anyone knows or can confirm fr the SnP or any agreement ? What about the main gate and car porch’s tiles ?

Yes, any changes which modify the outlook need to be complied under conditions stated under deed of mutual covenant, or approval from site management/committee. This includes and not limited to window grill, door grill, main gate and car porch tiles. I believe this is captured under home owner manual as well during keys handover.

Whether the owners install the grill with prior approval, it’s best to confirm with site management office, which i highly doubt so.

No name developer is like that, they don’t know what is mean by strata title. They ‘ll wash hand after Jmc is formed, depretion of house price later is not their business. Pity those bought this property.

This was my concern when I considered G&G in Penang. Why paying premier price while developer can not protect buyers in executing the strata title raw.

Worser when the chap palang developer also promote their project in G&G as selling point.

To be fair, instead of blaming the developer, i think the issue still goes back to Malaysian’s tak ada apa attitude and don’t care mentality. This kind of uncooperative behavior remain the biggest challenge in maintaining a harmonious community in most GnG and Condo (even luxury condo priced above millions) here, regardless or new or established developer. The management need to be strong and firm in making sure rules are follow, and the resident need to be collaborative to ensure everyone follow the same rules, unfortunately which doesn’t not happened all the time.

yoyo :
No name developer is like that, they don’t know what is mean by strata title. They ‘ll wash hand after Jmc is formed, depretion of house price later is not their business. Pity those bought this property.

property price will not drop unless epidemic sweeping the region , instability of the region or overprice.

JS :
To be fair, instead of blaming the developer, i think the issue still goes back to Malaysian’s tak ada apa attitude and don’t care mentality. This kind of uncooperative behavior remain the biggest challenge in maintaining a harmonious community in most GnG and Condo (even luxury condo priced above millions) here, regardless or new or established developer. The management need to be strong and firm in making sure rules are follow, and the resident need to be collaborative to ensure everyone follow the same rules, unfortunately which doesn’t not happened all the time.

when it comes to life safety issue. rules and regulation should be flexible enough to amend.
you will never know during full moon, what creatures will come.

AK :

JS :
To be fair, instead of blaming the developer, i think the issue still goes back to Malaysian’s tak ada apa attitude and don’t care mentality. This kind of uncooperative behavior remain the biggest challenge in maintaining a harmonious community in most GnG and Condo (even luxury condo priced above millions) here, regardless or new or established developer. The management need to be strong and firm in making sure rules are follow, and the resident need to be collaborative to ensure everyone follow the same rules, unfortunately which doesn’t not happened all the time.

when it comes to life safety issue. rules and regulation should be flexible enough to amend.
you will never know during full moon, what creatures will come.

If u not comfort with security provided by the developer and aware that u will do the renovation, why buy the G&G and sign the snp in the first point?

Chocolate :

AK :

JS :
To be fair, instead of blaming the developer, i think the issue still goes back to Malaysian’s tak ada apa attitude and don’t care mentality. This kind of uncooperative behavior remain the biggest challenge in maintaining a harmonious community in most GnG and Condo (even luxury condo priced above millions) here, regardless or new or established developer. The management need to be strong and firm in making sure rules are follow, and the resident need to be collaborative to ensure everyone follow the same rules, unfortunately which doesn’t not happened all the time.

when it comes to life safety issue. rules and regulation should be flexible enough to amend.
you will never know during full moon, what creatures will come.

If u not comfort with security provided by the developer and aware that u will do the renovation, why buy the G&G and sign the snp in the first point?

oopsss.. sorry to make your mis-interpret.. please ignore my comment. thanks!

@Chocolate

Agreed with @Chocolate’s comment. Developer should protect the house rules. For grill & awning, developer should ensure same design/style/color is installed by resident if they plan to amend the house rule on grill & awning stuff. What for to have a strata tile if resident can do whatever they want but developer just close one eye on it? May be developer also support resident to break the house rules? if this is true, then jia lat liao, pity and unfair to those resident who follow tight on the house rule!

anyone sold their unit?>

Mine sold. RM850K Type B Intermediate Unit.

So easy to sell ? Don’t simply ‘ tembak’.

Up to you if don’t believe. Pls go look at the properties forum the market price.

No need to look at properties forum because I myself have property in
better location.

KellySweety, hope you do not mind to share how u manage to find the buyer ? i got one unit want to let go. thank

No one will share his success story or method.

Just ‘tembak’, what to share ?

If i got one unit, i will keep it & wait until 1m than sold out.

Palm Villas in B’worth completed in 2009 is selling around RM 700k only.
Selling over 1M ? Very unlikely, are you suggesting 10 years from now ?

I said RM 850K not 1 Million !

Thanks on the input
am planning to sell mine between 850-880 K myself

@KellySweety

u sold RM850K with or without lift?

Big Cannon making loud noise only !!!! Do you think so easy to sell especially
this area and bank’s valuation ?

current market value for Type B without any add on is not more than RM820K.

bad workmanship….
the inside tiles are empty!!!!
We are being cheated!!! it even harms our safety!!! gosh!!!!
还整天喷雨！！
连门都是坏的。。。。
等他修理还要看 大华 脸色！！！

Not allow us to renovate during weekend…saying that it is noisy…but after i survey…. no one complains of noisy…. but tah wah own workers allowed to work during weekends…. DOUBLE STANDARD!!!

promise to give us the plant garden but not doing so…. they said to cut cost?? hello…. u get so much money from us then want to cut cost??? do u think we are water fish????

along the road is too dark at night….. promise to install light but seems being forgotten….. cut cost again??????????

along the road is too dark at night….. promise to install light but seems being forgotten….. cut cost again??????????
is the street light or road lamp so expensive???

KellySweety :I said RM 850K not 1 Million !

Blank unit

Don’t tell me I can’t differentiate between 1 million to RM 850k. What is
the real value from bank’s valuation ?

Cannon :Don’t tell me I can’t differentiate between 1 million to RM 850k. What isthe real value from bank’s valuation ?

I don’t understand your question. I let go with RM850K, make a handsome RM250K-300K. My next investment is Tanjong Bunga I-Santorini. Bye-bye Orange Villa.

Don’t bombard to be precised. Don’t try to make everyone look stupid in
believing you.

angry bird :
bad workmanship….
the inside tiles are empty!!!!
We are being cheated!!! it even harms our safety!!! gosh!!!!
还整天喷雨！！
连门都是坏的。。。。
等他修理还要看 大华 脸色！！！

this is so true, don’t buy this developer project, they gave no quality material, workmanship like saii!

how much u guys bought your unit huh?

Owner selling a nice unit opposite the semi-d’s
Price is $860K
Done with extra wiring for electrical appliances

selling means not yet sold with that price, right??

I have a fellow neighbor who sold that price hence listing the same.

Hi Mr Buyer out there, Jake here agent from Huttons OneWorld I have a triple storey intermediate unit for sales.
Maintenance fees are less than RM250 per month.
Kindly message me 017-5352257 for more information.
Thanks

Best Regard,
Jake Goh
Huttons OneWorld

buyer :

angry bird :
bad workmanship….
the inside tiles are empty!!!!
We are being cheated!!! it even harms our safety!!! gosh!!!!
还整天喷雨！！
连门都是坏的。。。。
等他修理还要看 大华 脸色！！！

this is so true, don’t buy this developer project, they gave no quality material, workmanship like saii!

we’re getting cheated…kanebo…TWH main contractor lacking of worker now..their contractor asking us to wait when we asked them when the defect work can be fixed..really “等他修理还要看 大华 脸色！！！” kan e eh ah bo !!

Really headache ah. hai ya.
Their background also same like those Simpang Ampat developer one, no wonder same workmanship and approach also. Sian nia. Rotten orange.

hie there and good day to OV 1 owners and residents…im very new to this forum. Would like to know do we yet already have an association or group among the residents of OV 1? Im curious. Btw, I have moved in to my house on the 15th January.. all the defects are done n i felt the area are better than other places. love the setting and also the privacy there. thank you.

sucks quality n management. lauya developer…

Agelyia Murugan :hie there and good day to OV 1 owners and residents…im very new to this forum. Would like to know do we yet already have an association or group among the residents of OV 1? Im curious. Btw, I have moved in to my house on the 15th January.. all the defects are done n i felt the area are better than other places. love the setting and also the privacy there. thank you.

The cracks will come back in a few days time. It will never able to solve due to developer hire un-skill Contractor to build the houses. Sorry to you all.

buyer is looking for a type B unit, any owner willing to let go around 750k?

terrace and RM850k with land size of 1540? lol

condominium with virtual land is not FOC..

@KK
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palm villa vs ov
Which one better?
Personally feel the former one is better.

palm villa at raja uda?

i guess there is no better, it all depends on where u wanna stay. Palm villa at raja uda, OV at BM. its not an apple to apple comparison.

For investment, BM is currently developing, raja uda will be in a very strategic location after the undersea tunnel link to penang is ready.

Definitely Butterworth area is much more better than BM. If choose not to
compare don’t give reason as to not comparing an apple to apple.

Penang 2nd. bridge has been completed and so where is Tambun right now ?

Well, I am not comparing, just stating some reasons where people will consider the area.

Your tone can be better / friendlier to promote better discussion in the forum.

Bridge doesnt mean price will soar, it provide better access. Nevertheless, one cant deny the second bridge did bring a difference to the area. If the underwater tunnel is really built, it will be more interesting as it connect directly to a prime area in island.

In my humble opinion, I do prefer butterworth area which is why i got my properties there but at the same time, i do understand why people will buy BM area.

aiya… one man’s meat is another man’s poison. need not to compare , buy both or don’t buy.

palm villa swimming so big, landscape like garden plants more than cement, ov swimming pool too small cant swim, only suitable for kids, few plants only no garden feel

I am considering to buy a unit at Orange Villa but I see a lot of negative comment in this forum. Can someone tell me if Orange Villa is good? I like the place, the pool, the facilities and overall environment is very nice.

@Jude_Lau

Jude ! comment in this forum is only for your input. you have to analyze and make your own judgement as you are the one who will fork out the hard earn dollar. no one else..
see it yourself to believe..

@cheewei
please email me at zhi_min@hotmail.com

@cheewei

please email me at sandyclf@homail.com

@Sandy

Sandy :
@cheewei
please email me at sandyclf@homail.com

Hi Sandy, ur email cant reach. please email me at cheewei.ha@hotmail.com

Any Maxis subscriber experience poor reception in this Taman as per reported?

https://forum.maxis.com.my/forum_topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25291

Don’t worry, Maxis plan to built a big communication tower beside OV.

@YS

Sound like you have insider news . please share the plan with details Tower’s specification. will do study if it bring any extra benefit to those stay nearby.

This isnt good….radiation.

The entrance ORANGE VILLA concrete sign board not also suffer severe crack.
All OV residents, pls check it out and launch complain to Tah Wah Land !
Pls write to stack holder lawyer to hold the release of final 5% payment to Developer until they rectify all internal and external house defects.
Developer todays is very arrogant and challenge current purchaser to complain to Tribunal if found not satisfy with their house.

Too bad this Tah Wah !!

If necessary, pls file in Tribunal Pembeli Rumah to push developer to fix all defects.

I also struggle to deal with developer. My house crack have been touch up for more that 10 times by develop, but still cannot fix and crack line reappear. Went to ask them they only say, we never stop repair, pls continue to feedback and we will continue repair. Really bad. Now my lawyer told me, the last resources is to file the defects case to Tribunal Pembeli Rumah on this crack line defect case and complain on developer failed to permanent fix the problem, and we will fix it our self. Lawyer said, very likely we will win the case and Tribunal will instruct Developer to pay you the amount needed to fix all their failure. To us, as least we got back some money from the developer. You only need to pay RM10 only to file in the case to Tribunal.

Below the step to file to Tribunal:
Location: Wisma Persekutuan at Kepala Batas, Seberang Perai.

1) Write all difficult defects to developer/stack holder lawyer/SnP lawyer. Give them 30 days to complete the defect.
At same time, write another 1 letter to stack holder lawyer to instruct him NOT to release the final 5% to developer. (actual 2.5% after 8 months CCC).

2) After 30 days, write again all difficult defects to developer. Give them final 15 days to complete the defect. Or else, you will get own contractor to fix the defects. Pls get you contractor to quote you the price for all repairing works. (You can ask you own contractor to quota higher). At same time, write 2nd letter to stack holder lawyer to re-assure him not to release final 5% money to developer.

3) After 15 days, you can file all relevant document to Tribunal Pembeli Rumah and Tribunal will call Developer rep (some time could be their director) and you to attend hearing. At the same time, Tribunal may same some one to check and visit you house/defect location. During Tribunal hearing time, pls get back the key from developer and lock your house. Some time Bad developer will quickly touch-up your house a days before the officer from Tribunal visit.

4) The entire process will take not more than 4 months, for Tribunal to make decision. If you did not reno you house at all, very likely you will win the case. Even if you have reno, if the defect is totally not related to you reno location, you still can win the case.

Lastly, I think OV1 have severe defect / crack issue. All OV1 purchaser need to team up and launch complain to developer. Already start to have a few purchase wrote to stack holder to instruct not to release the 5% Stack Holder fund. We all need to force developer to have a permanent fix to OV1 crack issue and defects issue.

@Bad Boy
Do you have the format to Lawyer and please advise the process to get this done.
also, please advise what needs to be considered before making official complaint to relevant party.
heard from a friend of mine saying that if more than certain number of people or severity of logged case to Tribunal. Developer will be put into blacklist after assessment by tribunal.. is this a correct statement?

TQ, admin …… OV1 really have problem with Crack Problem !!

I am urge and encourage all OV1 purchase. Pls wrote to you stack holder lawyer to instruct NOT to RELEASE the final 5% of you stack holder fund to Tah Wah, until TW rectify all the comment defects. Pls do so as all internal and external defect are come from out fund/money.
Internal Defect – You Own Pocket
External Defect – Our Monthly Maintenance Fee (Also our own money)

If we don’t do it right today, future OV committee member will be suffering to upkeep the substandard quality of OV1.

I am friend of a lawyer and was informed that one developer want to law sue purchase due to too much complain. Could someone confirm it is from this developer?

@Lawyer
Suing over too much complain is sound doubtful unless your friend didn’t tell you the actual fact.
if your friend is really innocent and too much complaint. He/She may seeks consultation from lawyer or head to tribunal and tell them he is getting lawyer letter due to over demanding.

If all OV1 units, 150 units instructed Stack Holder Lawyer not to release final 5% to developer.
Let me count:

Just a rough calculation:
Total 150 unit Stack Holder Fund =
= 150 x RM 600,000 x 5% =
= RM 4.5 Million

This will effectively force the developer to Fix the defect for us.
Besides, if developer failed to compliance, Kementerian will blacklist this developer.
If we bring in Political attention, it think, they will have more problem with their upcoming projects.
Authority will scrutiny them !

Defects is the focus. I think developer try to splash money to sue with purpose try to silent the complained person. Heard they also issue a few warning letter to a few more of my purchaser friends. I never encounter developer run business like this.

Lawyer :If all OV1 units, 150 units instructed Stack Holder Lawyer not to release final 5% to developer.Let me count:
Just a rough calculation:Total 150 unit Stack Holder Fund == 150 x RM 600,000 x 5% == RM 4.5 Million
This will effectively force the developer to Fix the defect for us.Besides, if developer failed to compliance, Kementerian will blacklist this developer.If we bring in Political attention, it think, they will have more problem with their upcoming projects.Authority will scrutiny them !

Fully agreed.

Hello All.. i personally think that we should feedback through proper channel as per stated in Kementarian website & not the other way.
Of course , if you think you want to go through the way as per post #132. it’s all your choice… but what is the ultimate result you want? ask yourself…

While Tah Wah still having 3-4 more upcoming projects under their pipe line.
If you plan to file complain, pls do it now. They will scare if OV1 defect problem jeopardize their existing projects.

Orange Villa 2
Orange Garden
Orange-3 Condo
Orange Residence Condo
Orange Selayang

KK :Hello All.. i personally think that we should feedback through proper channel as per stated in Kementarian website & not the other way.Of course , if you think you want to go through the way as per post #132. it’s all your choice… but what is the ultimate result you want? ask yourself…

KK, I have similar frustration when complaining defects. Wall crack cannot be solved and Tw keep on drag me day by day. Drag never mind by problem is the crack line reoccurred. This is a big problem to all our house. I believe you house will have it also. If you have reno on it, then your volunteer on this crack wall will be void. I think we all should consider to file it Tribunal and on-hold the 5% final payment from lawyer. KK, pls try it you will know. Pls walk to any of the house you will see crack every where.

TengTeng :While Tah Wah still having 3-4 more upcoming projects under their pipe line.If you plan to file complain, pls do it now. They will scare if OV1 defect problem jeopardize their existing projects.
Orange Villa 2Orange GardenOrange-3 CondoOrange Residence CondoOrange Selayang

If all OV purchase do it, develop will be scare until vivi. This will be the last choice situation. Should not let Big Fish eat us (Small Fish)

KK :Hello All.. i personally think that we should feedback through proper channel as per stated in Kementarian website & not the other way.Of course , if you think you want to go through the way as per post #132. it’s all your choice… but what is the ultimate result you want? ask yourself…

Post 132 method is consider proper way. It is allowed in view of law.
Unless you are investor worry price will be affected and no plan to stay in OV1.

KK :Hello All.. i personally think that we should feedback through proper channel as per stated in Kementarian website & not the other way.Of course , if you think you want to go through the way as per post #132. it’s all your choice… but what is the ultimate result you want? ask yourself…

Eventually Kementerian will still channel you back to Tribunal. Pls don’t waste your time to Kementerian. But you can do it in parallel. Hold the 5% final payment is the best way.

@AppleJuice
You Are partially right. Warranty will be voided if your defect is the area where you renovated in a fair manner. Developer has to show proof in scientific manner if renovation cause the defect.For instance renovation in ground floor but the defect you log at rooftop. Alternatively you can’t claim defect from developer when defect is caused by your contractor during renovation. For instance again, broken floor tile that induced by your contractor. Play with fair if you want a solution. Sorry I am not a troy but a person who in the fair stand point.

@Hulk
If you go through proper manner. I don’t see no action from Kementerian. At least you will be channeled to the relevant department. Please google and read the past case. Do google in bahasa for more information. You will see a lot more past cases handled by relevant party.

Actually we have visit Putrajaya, Precint 4, met with the Ministry Rep already. We was guided to do this.

TengTeng :Below the step to file to Tribunal:Location: Wisma Persekutuan at Kepala Batas, Seberang Perai.
1) Write all difficult defects to developer/stack holder lawyer/SnP lawyer. Give them 30 days to complete the defect.At same time, write another 1 letter to stack holder lawyer to instruct him NOT to release the final 5% to developer. (actual 2.5% after 8 months CCC).
2) After 30 days, write again all difficult defects to developer. Give them final 15 days to complete the defect. Or else, you will get own contractor to fix the defects. Pls get you contractor to quote you the price for all repairing works. (You can ask you own contractor to quota higher). At same time, write 2nd letter to stack holder lawyer to re-assure him not to release final 5% money to developer.
3) After 15 days, you can file all relevant document to Tribunal Pembeli Rumah and Tribunal will call Developer rep (some time could be their director) and you to attend hearing. At the same time, Tribunal may same some one to check and visit you house/defect location. During Tribunal hearing time, pls get back the key from developer and lock your house. Some time Bad developer will quickly touch-up your house a days before the officer from Tribunal visit.
4) The entire process will take not more than 4 months, for Tribunal to make decision. If you did not reno you house at all, very likely you will win the case. Even if you have reno, if the defect is totally not related to you reno location, you still can win the case.
Lastly, I think OV1 have severe defect / crack issue. All OV1 purchaser need to team up and launch complain to developer. Already start to have a few purchase wrote to stack holder to instruct not to release the 5% Stack Holder fund. We all need to force developer to have a permanent fix to OV1 crack issue and defects issue.

I will consider to follow you all.

TengTeng :I also struggle to deal with developer. My house crack have been touch up for more that 10 times by develop, but still cannot fix and crack line reappear. Went to ask them they only say, we never stop repair, pls continue to feedback and we will continue repair. Really bad. Now my lawyer told me, the last resources is to file the defects case to Tribunal Pembeli Rumah on this crack line defect case and complain on developer failed to permanent fix the problem, and we will fix it our self. Lawyer said, very likely we will win the case and Tribunal will instruct Developer to pay you the amount needed to fix all their failure. To us, as least we got back some money from the developer. You only need to pay RM10 only to file in the case to Tribunal.

Wow, so hot !!
Should not let developer walk away with all the comment defects. Need to hold them responsibility.

1st time heard that developer sue purchaser. Crazy & Amazing.

If i am the developer, will definitely sue the person who complained kao kao. Why always complained when it is only a hair line cracked. If the cracked was sho sho serious and beyong repairable by developer, why still complained when u can take to the proper channel. How dramatic this person can be and no doubt bout the workmanship, it is definitely poor but then it is still acceptable for me. Do u know that when u complained too much, sometimes it can be a nuisance and annoying for others, please be considerate la….

@Soulheal3r
different people has different degree of tolerance when deal issue. Some people are perfectionist where they expect minimum 100% or more if it’s possible. Complain is a driving force & opportunity for improvement. If a complain is ignore, it’s equally to you are giving up the chance for betterment.
complain equal to FREE OF CHARGE consultation.

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@Soulheal3r
different people has different degree of tolerance when deal issue. Some people are perfectionist where they expect minimum 100% or more if it’s possible. Complain is a driving force & opportunity for improvement. If a complain is ignore, it’s equally to you are giving up the chance for betterment.
complain equal to FREE OF CHARGE consultation.

Support u!

performance metric of a project or company is good tracking mechanism.
Some company set case of complain, resolve on time , customer satisfaction as performance metric. These metrics is review periodically by management. any metric that not meeting the target, the owner will need to explain why it wasn’t meet and provide the plan to bring the metric back on track. With all these metric, a person and company performance can be monitored.

crack on wall still occur although developer retify it is due to 2 reason.
1. Contractor didn’t put exmet on every 4 coarse of brick work done – can solve if hacked off the wall & rebuilt new wall.
2. Structure work not properly done or design false – cannot solve, only wait & see the settlement come out time after time.

Soulheal3r :
If i am the developer, will definitely sue the person who complained kao kao. Why always complained when it is only a hair line cracked. If the cracked was sho sho serious and beyong repairable by developer, why still complained when u can take to the proper channel. How dramatic this person can be and no doubt bout the workmanship, it is definitely poor but then it is still acceptable for me. Do u know that when u complained too much, sometimes it can be a nuisance and annoying for others, please be considerate la….

U r exactly developer!

@Soulheal3r
you are probably right from the acceptance level. The complainer is no wrong to get the hard earn money that he spend on the property. He is just execute the right as consumer and doesn’t annoy other owner. if he/she does, please show proof and let the proof speak by itself or you can execute your right too to ignore the unrealistic complain.

Soulheal3r :If i am the developer, will definitely sue the person who complained kao kao. Why always complained when it is only a hair line cracked. If the cracked was sho sho serious and beyong repairable by developer, why still complained when u can take to the proper channel. How dramatic this person can be and no doubt bout the workmanship, it is definitely poor but then it is still acceptable for me. Do u know that when u complained too much, sometimes it can be a nuisance and annoying for others, please be considerate la….

Developer sue him base on what reason? Pls sue. he will be happy to receive your lawyer letter. Likely developer will loss and purchaser will sue developer back and ask for RM100K damage. Haha, pls sue laaa …… stupid.

is any1 mind to show how bad is the crack? or anyway i can look at it?

I recently went back and took a look at my unit after the re work is done.Seems to be fine to me

OVgal :I recently went back and took a look at my unit after the re work is done.Seems to be fine to me

You need to observed after 1-2 weeks later.

^^^^^dun talk only, pls take action… If me is developer I will laugh everyday, at here ppl jz know to talk and complain only, do noting.

U all can go 槟城消费人协会

Consumers’ Association of Penang (CAP)
10 Jalan Masjid Negeri
11600 Pulau Pinang
Malaysia.
Tel: 604-8299511 Fax: 604-8298109
Email:info@cap.org.my

http://www.cap.org.my/aboutus.html

Write a complain letter go here, u will very fast see the efficiency

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Complain to TTPR (Tribunal Tuntutan Pembeli Rumah) just like Urban Suites customers, buyers did.

@King1

Should go to tribunal tuntutan pembeli rumah. once you file complain, they will send expert to value the defect. Tribunal’s award favouring purchaser.

any recommendations on best priced renovators ?

Nice

lets say, if someone want to buy and pay cash for this terrace unit, if there any chance he can get extra discount on any unit (for those who want to let go their unit):)

@TengTeng
Agreed

any owner willing to let go? looking direct owner unit, we can save commision together, agent are welcome if u can nego gd price with owner, pls contact me at 0125911558, thx.

any owner here? how much the maintenance fee? I looking unit here.

Hi.
Any owner wish to let go ?
Please contact me at 0124746986
Thank you.

Did today flooding at Orange Villa area?

Orange Villa and Bukit Kecil is flood free. Occasion the Jln Betek may be, but heard this road will add higher in line with the coming new Hockey Stadium.

Never flood in Orange Villa ….
Very safe

Any owner wants to let go, please email me at gchchar@gmail.com. I’m serious buyer.

anyone can share the living environment there? is this good to buy and stay there?

Anyone looking for pool side unit? i want to let go.

As a resident facing multi issues living in here, low water pressure causing the water can not reach to the upper floor especially peak hour, beside that some residents facing the tree root go everywhere and causing clogging in main hole.

I have been staying here for nearly 5 years. Happy with the environment and neighbourhood.

Stay happily at OV. Good neighborhood, peaceful and quietly environment. Even with some issues and is able to solve easily by using our brain. (:

This Gated/Guarded residential scheme, is considered a well manage residential housing projects. Good MC and committee members.

In 5 years experiencing living in here, only gain a restful loving living style for beginning of first 3 years. That time when you walk in the back lane can see a greenness in your eye and feel freshness. Now day everything was disappeared in your heart and just only take it as memoir. Beside that water pressure issue starting to rise up when over half of occupier in here, water pressure keep going to drop and facing in low water pressure situation. Incoming water is very slow and sometime none water at all especially during peak hour or holiday season. As a resident very difficult to encounter this issue because too many obstruction.

@Andy Hor
This guy is the troublemaker in Orange Villa.

i think the quality improve a lot already, with the new project orange park.

agree, Siara

wah, orange villa really so bad ah…