I thought this project has been scrapped long time ago?

Not scrapped. In fact, there is some squatter issue and they have been rejected by MPPP twice. This is 3rd time they apply. See below link. Hope they don’t increase the price when launch later.
http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Borang_info.cfm?ID=163654&NoForm=Form2

ya, this is actually a super good project with such strategic location. Hope they going to launch soon.

ya, this is actually a super good project with such strategic location. Hope they going to launch soon…RM380/sft is reasonable with the current trend, hope no more increase.

you won’t get this type of condo with rm380/sft. Expected to be Rm450 and above with current market price in the premium land.

Any details on this developer? Any previous completed project by this developer?

RM380/sqft? I think this is outdated for long….

Can’t find any details on this developer. So any new info on this project.

@lim
Just called them. It’s RM380/sqft “as of today”. Launching end of the year.

Of course they don’t guarantee the price won’t go up

@PC/lim
i called to the office few days ago to follow up. According to them, their target launching price is RM380psf. Of course no black and white and anything can change on the price. In my opinion, if they not going to launch this round and drag to next year, then probably the price will increase.
@jas
This is first project in penang for lengkap impresif. They did acquire some land in teluk kumbar from what i learnt during previous visit to their office

@eric/lin lin

Thanks for confirming with the office. have they open for registration for interested buyer?

@eric @lin lin

Thanks for the info. So we can register at their office and wait for them to inform on the launch date right. Is the layout finalize?

Yes, it is open for registration. But cannot book yet.

@KK,
They opened for registration since January 2010. I think there is many applicants already registered as it’s about 21 months ago. Basically it’s first register first serve. You can go to their office at MBF tower level5. By the way, from what i learnt from them, they have studio units also which start at 567sqft but all reserve to their internal stuff (you know lah :). So i think only left those units starting from 1000sqft as indicated in the forum.

Woah, register since 2010 look like i am too late, anyway thanks a lot for the info eric and lin lin.

Is it going to be noisy like The View? you know? I visited The View before accompanied by Agent, the house is amazing but once I get to turn on the window, it’s so noisy!

need to go their office register? Can register through phone?

You need to go their office, they don’t acccept phone. I think they have changed their plan. 2010 plan no longer valid. But i may be wrong because i didn’t see their old plan before. can someone confirm?

during friday bridge jam, you can see the house but you cant reach the house. I lost 50k to get rid of The view unit last few months. hope you all don’t repeat my same old mistake

@The View x Onwer

is it very noisy down there?

Penang Guy :@The View x Onwer
is it very noisy down there?

Noisy on those lower floor, traffic jam and the road access into the site will turn you off definately. don’t believe ? make a trip to the view at Friday 530pm.

I went to visit once on a higher floor, but once i turn on the window, it’s really noisy when you get to hear those motorbikes speeding

Condo by the bridge, but also condo by the HIGHWAY (which they purposely hide it…..hmmmm)

100% agree that traffic on friday is crazy but this project takes 3 years to complete by then the 2nd link will be ready, the traffic on the penang bridge could reduce by 30%, on friday the traffic could still be slow but should be better.

ABCD :
100% agree that traffic on friday is crazy but this project takes 3 years to complete by then the 2nd link will be ready, the traffic on the penang bridge could reduce by 30%, on friday the traffic could still be slow but should be better.

@ABCD

it’s not the problem of the Jam part, it’s the problem of the noise!! imagine midnight you turn on your window and you hear those voices!

may i know where is the office located?

It’s non zero entry cost. Developer not absorb or subsidize interest during construction. This is bad

@doozer
Batu Uban next to The View condo

@doozer
MBF tower level 5

@eric
That is the pros and cons of lower selling price, we buy cheaper compare to market but after plus the interest during construction it will break even. So there is not really cheap deal nowaday, price will be higher though in future if the sell after build in 2015 proposal passed by government.

@comment

what proposal by the government?

eric :It’s non zero entry cost. Developer not absorb or subsidize interest during construction. This is bad

Guess you were referring to Zero Interest during construction scheme. As far as i am concern, not many new projects come with this package anymore, the last i knew were Maritime square and Mansion One. In both cases this interest waiver is pretty much being factored into selling price price anyway.

Noticed that lots of people are showing concern over the noise issue. To me this is inevitable to most of the condos around the island, not only The Curve in specific. Hot properties such as Bayswater, gurney park, putra place, gold coast, fettes residence, tg park, Marina Bay, even all super-condos along gurney drive or Tg Bunga are just sitted directly or very close to the main road, but the price still escalating and not seem to be affected at all.

HarimauTakBergigi :@comment
what proposal by the government?

Currently it is “Sell-then-built” concept, where developer sign s&p and collect first 10%, then progressive payments from the buyers. In another 5 years time, “maybe”, the government would enforce “built-then-sell” concept, where developer will have to complete the building (or perhaps up to certain progress) before open for sale. This offers more security and protection to the buyers against abandoned projects. However the implication is that only big developer with deep pocket or creditibility would be able to find cash or loan from bank to cover for the cost during construction. Under this case more risk and uncertainty is being put upon developer’s shoulder, therefore to offset this risk, developer will almost certainly price their property higher upon launch. Base on what i knew of, so far in penang The Spring and Summerplace, both by IJM were adopting this concept, although not upon completion/OC.

I would say it’s good to think twice before going for it.
– It’s always at higher risk with new developer as we have no clue on their job at all.
– It’s located along the heavy traffic highway. If your hse is on fire on Friday evening time, then you’ll be watching you hse keep burning up as the fire engine will have hard time to reach there very soon too.

That will makes the rakyat more susah to make a purchase of rumah!!!

Can we register thru website? if yes, may i have the URL? Thanks.

Guys, keep it low. If too many people showing interest, kiasu, get themselve and whole family to register for it, then i tell you the price would be revised upward later on. Number of registrants is the most common practice for developer to judge how “hot” their property is.

I think I better pay a visit to The View main gate, see how difficult it is When we drive, we are so close to the The View, but never see the main gate.

Hope there is new access build with this Condo.

The View subsale lost money?? Am I hear correctly? Is there any access from N-Park to this condo directly? Hope there is new road build. Yeah, you can’t avoid the noise from traffic, just close all the windows and put on air conditioner.

@The View x Onwer
Lost RM50k? True or not, mainly due the road? I heard there is fengsui related issue. But subsale also not lose money la….

Very good location, hope it is link to the road going to N-Park or E-Park there, then shouldn’t be big problem in hard to go in.

John Chor :@The View x Onwer Lost RM50k? True or not, mainly due the road? I heard there is fengsui related issue. But subsale also not lose money la….

No lah, The View soft launch only selling at ~400k++ from lowest floor.

is anyone get the chance to see the entire layout plan and access road ? let’s share.

@property
Yes, I have a chance. Two access into this Condo once it is completed, the layout is so so. Maint fee is RM0.22/sf onwards, nice architecture and fiber optic, this and that, sounds very promising, but guess what, I am very excited with this project, but it was yesterday’s feeling, now all gone. Why? A friend of mine also visited the office and ask me a question:- How confident are you with this developer? Then, a long story comes…..my decision, not to buy. No need to discuss about the layout, the access, noise level, and etc, all these of course have pros and cons, but the big concern now is question normally people ask: how the developer! Any Track Record! Background? Hope can hear more on this, probably i can reconsider to buy, but most probably not, will consider The Address by IJM or The Wave by SP Setia.

You will be super duper dare to buy this project, if you have extra cash, can dump into this pool and be ready for the worst thing happen and it won’t impact anything on your financial. The View is consider a poor example, and yet it is from Ivory, a big player. The Curve is pretty much same like Lanai Seri by MRCB, just see the picture and empty land, when call to ask further, the answer is always ‘i don’t know’.

I think this is a good location, but not a good location for living. Sandwiches with two super duper busy 2 ways highway (the most busy broadway in Penang), one facing balcony, one facing main entrance door, how can you imagine the noise level [you care of air polution, you care of water polution, but the same level of danger noise polution normally people just simply don’t care] This is a good example of poor urban planning that give rise to noise pollution.

Noise pollution can cause annoyance and aggression, hypertension, high stress levels, tinnitus, hearing loss, sleep disturbances, and other harmful effects. Furthermore, stress and hypertension are the leading causes to health problems, whereas tinnitus can lead to forgetfulness, severe depression and at times panic attacks.
Don’t overlook the seriousness of noise pollution, it is a silent killer.

A usefull comment here. Thanks!
I almost overlook the ‘noise’ issue on this project. I think this will be the second noisier condo in Penang Island, after The View which is the noisiest (two main highway + a fly over), noise from three direction. No wonder The View is fully glassed window, like hotel, for better sound proof. I stayed in Hotel at Jalan Ampang KL, I barely can here any sound from busy traffic. So, this condo need to have fully sealed window and door So, how to enjoy windy seaview + bridge view? We need natural air, long time in aircon very bad for health.

Noise is everywhere, watching TV got noise, working environment got noise, your another half also creating noise, so, the traffic noise is nothing. Go for vacation more in natural forest, to release stress before back to stay in city house.

Sharing comments no doubt is useful. It will be very useful for those with the means to procure. Be alert on those who open mouth but can’t really afford. Useful for what? Talk talk talk only .. Everyday got crisis, every location also got crisis. I doubt this type have any extra disposable income to make decision… Talk talk talk only… Sorry

And also… Oh I almost overlook here la, nearly buy there la, oh I cancelled because noisy la or it’s because of chiken farm la.. It’s really funny this yuppies kind is applenty here..you think not?there’s plenty…

I am seeing a stupid “Truth” nonsense here. Probably these two are the most value (-less) comments that people can use to evaluate this project. A “Truth” investor who can procure in bulk units won’t care too much on all these comments (especially for negative one), but it can be usefull for those want to get a first house from their hard earn money. A really “Truth” nonsense useless talk talk talk.

Yes, I know it’s your first unit. Still deciding? As you are full of hot air. Hopeless yuppies

I am The View high floors owner. There is not a noise issue, guys please go to Mont Kiara and listen to the highway noise and compare to this. It is 1/3 the noise of Mont Kiara highway views ,yet all of those people make money selling it and there is no problems with the expatriate renting them.
It is so funny to see all your comments.
The noise problem if a “problem” then really all would move out and the price should fall to 300psf.
But the fact is only the lowest bare floor unit selling this price.
Others are 800000-1000000 rm

Well, I am staying high floor. Condo/apartment is like a diaphragm of a speaker.

My point of view, Curvy design units has its disadvantage is it will reflect noise to certain angle and to certain point, resonance occur and the noise will be amplified for certain areas.

So choose ur unit wisely if U really like the location. Or best part is to get own experience at the View instead investing in sometime unknown.

Very scientific explanation, sounds like logic, but i can’t understand. We can name this condo as “The Noise” Condo.

I do not go against this project, but apparently I visited the view before, the reason that I do not get to buy a subsale unit it’s because of,

Noise, traffic and congested

I know everywhere has the traffic and noise, but the feeling when you get home is very “pek chek” as you don’t feel comfortable at all, this is how I feel when I visit the view. like people said, love at first sight, but the view gave me a “uncomfortable at first sight”

just sharing my 2 cents lah

Already open for registration?

No need to register if you still not sure you want to buy, don’t spoil the market.

Don’t even think of register if it is impossible for you to buy, don’t waste paper, think green.

@Ah Dog

“Dog Mouth Will Never Grow for an Elephant Tooth”… hahaha……. please shut up and mind your own business.

This condo is for homeless ah dog, ah cat, why were you here? Still asking ‘registration’ question? This show you are not serious potential buyer.

is this project launched yet ?

@Ah Dog

I buy it & sell to Ah Dog & Ah Cat in the future lor…………. hahaha……… May be you can say i’m not the serious buyer… but definitely I’m the potential buyer.

@ppl188
You can open a pet shop there. Everyone also potential buyer la, after bought only talk.

Any comment regarding this developer? As i know this is their first project for residence.

This forum has been silent for long time and most of the time. Why? Because everyone just keep it low profile, don’t want to share, and be ready to grab as this can be the hottest property once it is open for booking. Those black horse property like SP and those in Seberang always receive a lot comment as people just see, not buying. This one can be a unsang hero.

harlo, any latest update on this project? already open for booking? will this property appear in PIP property fair at PISA early next month?

@Economic Crisis
haha, diam diam ubi ‘berkayu’.

When is the PISA fair?

Today Gurney Plazza property just end, 21-13 Oct, by Kenlink. PISA one will be 4-6 Nov, by PIP. I expect seeing some new project make their maiden appear in the fair, as this is the greatest time to launch in these few months, as market is very uncertain now that will continue in 6 – 9month.

can’t wait for this project…

don’t know it this developer can cube trusted or not. Only 1 project in Penang so far. A bit scary to pay Downpayment to this type of company.

I think the problem now is the squatter issue, if the developer can clear this out and handle it properly then it will be a good buy property.

Ya, wondering can it be another Kampung buah pala issue? as the residence there also live in many years. [the gov said kg buah pala deserve the compensation as they live there more than 120 years] The subsequent squatter issue will be very tough to handle after kg buah pala case.

Yes, this project is run by a small profile company, with no proven track record. This should be their maiden residential project into the island if not mistaken, however i don”t think it is risky. Whoever owns a piece of land right now in island has nothing to fear, especially in this case it is located in between 2 bridges, the so called Golden Zone. Bank will be more than willing to offer the loan, and trust me even things get screwed up the value of the land itself would be able to cover-up everything if gone for auction. Ivory got the bayan mutiara land at >=200psf at the present “Boom” time, how much do you think Lengkap got this land at Batu Uban years back? Even it is freehold, i think maybe ~100psf max. So the economics of scale is there, financially i can say the developer is very well positioned now, of couse i do not know if any complication of the land-ownership behind, perhaps somebody who knows can shares.

About the Squatters topic, do not compare to Kampung Buah Pala as that is a very unique case. Buah Pala land was given to the early settlers there by the british. The land suppose to be under the state, then somehow later being sold to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang at a very low price which you could possibly believed, RM10psf!!! And the state government at that time didn’t even inform the residents there. So smell something fishy right? Definitely lack of transparency, something under-table happened for sure. Therefore, Buah Pala is different with the rest. As for this case, i don;t think it is the state land so less complicated. what they need is to make the “good” compensation and i believe with the profit they expected to make, this shall not be the problem as well. You think those squatters prefer to stay in the small wooden hut as well? They might as well get the money, and buy a decent comcrete bricks houses in mainland.

So basically these squatters just want to get the good compensation, i believe thats fair imagine if you are one of them there. However eventually politician will definitely chip in to again political exposure, then things started to get a bit complicated. But you know this kind of things normally all parties also don’t want to drag too long. Developer would issue a court order for eviction, and normally there is no case for the squatters as the previous land owners already sold the land legally. For the squatters side, they also worry that later if they dun take the compansation they will be evicted anyway, like the 9 family in Kampung buah pala, so they would compromise as well. As for the politicians, they would just say come on, give me a break Finally!

@Jeff
What i last heard the compensation will be one house compensate with one house but don’t know the detail such as where the new house to be compensate. There is few kampung house torn down already but still a lot not moving yet, foresee it will slow down the launch of this project. If politiciancs chop in then god bless THE CURVE, more complications.

One to one compensation, base on landed house? I dont believe it, one squatter house for one apartment unit maybe. Even a landed house in mainland nowadays cost a bomb, it doesn’t make sense also. Trust me the developer definitely feels the pressure now, its no fun to continue serving loan and tax for the land all this while, they want to settle this fast. They may play the same tactics as what Mansion One was doing eventually, trust me, to collect a certain amount of upfront money from purchaser (maybe 20-30%%), then only give back after bank disburse up the certain stages. This will be the only chance they can still afford to sell reasonably cheap, and yet able to fork out enough to cover up for the compensation and construction cost.

Any more news regarding this project? Need to go and queue up? Heard that the developer will call one by one for the booking, no queue overnight, and no bulk buyers, will give priority to ‘own stay’ buyers, what a good role model of this developer

Hai, just drove around the area, actually not so difficult to access and get out from that area/The View Condo. But, the entire land there is lower than the two main roads, will it be feng sui problem? It seems like sink into or underground that why we see only the roof top of all the squatter houses.

Will this project/condo build in the middle of the squatter? very scary that your condo is surrounded by squatter. The land beside The View is very big, after this condo build, still a lot squatter will still remain there. I don’t think Lengkap really lengkaply (fully) buy the entire land, not sure will end up be Lengkap Impresifless.

I heard those squatters will move out loh.

You heard?? Very dangerous to make such assumption.

Aiyoh, move out or not, i do not prefer this project, the noise and dust is terrible and the developer is unknown

The location is strategic, price is reasonable i would say. Not to forget there might be shoplots to be built as well, this will make the neighbourhood more convenience. There is a pedestrian over-head bridge which can be connected to future Ivory Bayan Mutiara’s development as well. As for the noise and dusk part, i don’t think it will be major concern for most of the people.

Yeah, definitely it is not for healthy, peacefull, fresh air living, polution free living environment. It is a city living environment, with full of dusk and noise from the transports, and polluted air from the vehicle emission.

@Ah Dog
You are very kiasu, your comment only flavour for your property of choise.

Strategic and prime location is good, but this one really too strategic till sandwiched by two busy main roads and make it not an ideal place for living, but ideal for shops, hotel, etc…the same theory apply for those houses near to MRT station in KL, ‘near’ is good, but too near or just next to it may have adverse impacts, as there will become congested, noise from the train, traffic jam, illegal parking, etc.

@commet
Haha, what is the property of my choise? Yeah, everyone also has their property of choice, so they can comment accordingly. But if this is the property of my choice, i would really want to hear more negative comment than positive one, so that i can have more thought and verify it accordingly.

Buy property is not about kiasu, it is about you have enough bullets ($$) or not, if have, just buy, not need to consider. A real property investor won’t come to this forum and take it so seriously, may be, you’re saying all kiasu people come to this forum to get more idea on whether they can win or lose…..

@Jeff
aiyo, you can accept the dust and noise, doesn’t mean all can accept. this kind of condo need fully air conditioned, so you can get fresh air, less noise as you close all the windows.

Heard that many people have registered with the developer, and not enough to supply the high demand, not sure how the sale strategic this developer will use.

Guys, name me a brand new freehold condo in penang, 1000sf, located within 7km radius from QBM, future The Light, future Southbay, future Bayan Mutiara, E-GATE, Tesco, 1st bridge, 2nd bridge, USM, FIZ, direct seaview, and selling at 380psf…best of all if no dust and noise.

Aiyah,What so great about seaview ? You feel stickiness on your skin other
than the dust and noise.

Dust and noise already a major problem for peacefull living.

a new low cost flat for compensation to the squatters is being build right next to the Curve site NOW!

How to make a purchase? you prefer us to trap ourselves without the windows open while living in a condominium? you got to be kidding! and now a low cost flat is coming up. Habislah……….

Any prove there is a low cost flat coming up? This is a real bull shit! The construction site that you can see now is landed Semi-D, buy this Lengkap Impresif also, (forgot the project name, should be Vista Point or something like that).

There will be another 20++ shop lots facing USM build next to The Curve. While the infinity pool of this The Curve will facing Bayan Mutiara/Sea.

The Semi-D price at ~RM1.4mil. Suddenly become low cost flat pula, gosh,

Any prove there is a low cost flat coming up? The construction site that you can see now is landed Semi-D, buy this Lengkap Impresif also, (forgot the project name, should be Vista Point or something like that).

Ah Dog, are you planning to buy a unit?

Still considering, as i don’t like noise from the front and back, sandwiches with two most busy traffic roads, can’t get peacefull mind. [from the previous comment people talking about most condo in Penang facing main road, yes, agree, but front and back also facing main road really rare, i about to buy Alpine last 2 years, but drop it due to the noise from the traffic upwards the Jambul hill, very noisy also] The place that i live now really noise free, as isolated from main road.

A lot ppl said you stay higher a bit, like over 20th floor. haha…all these not true, saying this are those ppl never live in high rise at the side of main road, or they live in high end condo that fully air conditioned, still can hear the noise no matter how high it is (unless you live as high as KL twin tower, that different story).

It depends la, after live long enough, you will immune to the noise, but i prefer quality environment, after living 20 years in pre-war terrace house that face busy main road, very noisy, but i was OK that time as already get use to it, motor racing at night time, but i can sleep also. But now, think about it, this is silent killer, a polution that harzardous to our health without our notice.

I know i surely will kena tembak by ppl, anyway, this forum is for discussion, if you only love to hear good thing, don’t come to this forum.

The administrator of this website only want good comment on this forum, bad comment the admin will remove it…. no freedom to talk at all..

@Monk
Haha, yeah, i also kena few times just suddenly saw my comment disappear. I wasn’t have any intention to be sarcastic or provoke any argument, just personal thought of few properties that i am interested on, i don’t think i commented on more than 10 property here, as i don’t even glance on others that i not interested.

This is a property forum, not for stray dog and unsound ppls. Don’t pretend innocence of speech freedom to start your intimidation.

Just drive around at the site today, people celebrate Raya Haji, still happily living, really wonder they will move out ‘smoothly’. The piece of land is really sink, who can confirm the place will not get flood? In term of feng sui, all the bad stuff will flow down from the two main roads, bad feng sui. 4 floors will be car park, but the main entrace is still on the sink land.

eric :
Not scrapped. In fact, there is some squatter issue and they have been rejected by MPPP twice. This is 3rd time they apply. See below link. Hope they don’t increase the price when launch later.
http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Borang_info.cfm?ID=163654&NoForm=Form2

hi Eric,
Is there any way to check on the status of this project?
The link provided did show that submission was last done on 8 Aug & is in processing stage.
I guess that is the only link to know the status of approval.
Thank you.

From developer, they will launch by next year Q1, after getting approval. If not, I don’t think this developer can progress any further, it has delayed for very long time, really worry if they can get the project completed, their capability in ‘on time’ really in doubt if they delay further.

haha, you dare to dump in $$ to them? their office is at MBF Tower, small office, and will have the launching in somewhere else, may be in Hotel.

The site next to The Curve which is currently started piling work is for landed semi-D? It is just beside the low cost flat and close to sewage pond! who is going buy???

Ah Dog :haha, you dare to dump in $$ to them? their office is at MBF Tower, small office, and will have the launching in somewhere else, may be in Hotel.

hahaha……macam anytime the developer will bungkus and cabut!! They buyers will appear on newspaper crying for their $$…..

I don’t know about the developer, and in terms of completion, quality still remain unknown, scare scare to touch this project.

No Risk No Gain But Risking Too Much To Gain Too Little Makes No Sense Either. Is “Lengkap Impressif” too much a risk, god knows, use your crystal ball. If you want low risk then going for big-shot developer such as IJM, Mahsing, SP SP Setia, E&O, but i can tell you can hardly find anything below <500psf.

So what is my assessment…I am willing to take this risk. Location and price are my main consideration, these alone justified to risk my 10% deposit. I don't think the quality can be as bad as N-park and sunnyville, go and look for yourselve. At least the design already 10x better. It would be the good idea to also check on the owner of the land, if it is stamped as "lengkap impressif" then nothing to worry about.

Jeff, do you have any idea who their contractor is? I think it’s more important to look into their contractor too.

I think most of the people here are simply worrying too much with something which they should never be worrying about. Why? Bacause the queuing list is so long and the only worry you should have is whether you finally get to buy one.

Condomana, are you the one at the top in the list? if not then you can let your worries gone with the wind..

Tan, what do you mean by queuing list? with Raw facts of waiting list or just simply said by their “staff” ? did they appear in any fair and you get to see a lot of people queuing up to put in their names?

Understood from the developer, due to the “over-whelming” response they judged base on registration list, they would possibly open for booking base on call-basis, by batches, following the sequence of registration date. Which means whoever registered earlier, will get to serve first.

So isn’t it some kind of virtual queuing list? When you registered or what is your number?

Really or not? Queue like this? I don’t think so. I just asked several time, they will send out the invitation card, and base on the invitation card, you can come during the soft lauch (so, need to queue on the spot) Tell me, which developer really doing this, call batch by batch? (only LMC will do like this)

Mah Sing is going to launch Southbay Plaza by next month, RM650psf, reliable? Yes, very reliable developer, so, you pay more la.

I think the most important thing is they send you the invitation card, and make sure you go to queue.

@Tan
if they really do as what you said, then it is a black box operation. we still can accept they reserve some units for their staff, but call batch by batch without ‘openly’ sale, this is no good.

I don’t see how this can be perceived as black box operation, nothing under-table here. Please read my statement clearly, they “may” call by batches following the order of registration number. So this is as transparent as it seems. Those registered earlier are just lucky, those registered late can curse and swear but just too bad.

Nothing is fair when come to property purchase, trust me. Light linear only left few lower floor units during official launch, most of the good units being sapu by staffs,bulk buyers before-hand. Is this fair? During the launch of The Light collection II studio, maritime square, Elite height, people queued days and nights for an unit although not by themselve but through bangla, philipino, nepalese etc. Is this fair? There are people letting go of Light collection I studio immediately after launch, who are from KL, non-staffs, and did not even need to join the queue during launch. Is this fair? Ivory’s projects are hot but have you every heard of queuing during launch? No as there are always “soft”, Soft-Soft” launch before-hand to accept booking only. Whoever purchase one during official launch or roadshow are already paying much higher premium. So is this fair? For The light collection I before launch there are already investors letting go of good seaview units and prices even comparable to IJM during launch, is this fair? BSG property, how many of their landed/commercial actual went through launch? Most of them fully sold before you even knew about it until construction started. Is this fair? Southbay Plaza will open to staffs and previous mahsing’s customer before being opened for public. There aren’t many seaview units available so you know what left are likely those facing pool and the residence. Although 650psf (i heard 600psf) is crazy but Is this fair?

Initially i also thought that this is really a good investement with RM380psf with seaview. But onlywhen I personnally go & check the site then I realized why the developer set lower than market price. Too near to the low cost flats and really inconvenient to access + some piling works at the land beside (I don’t know where come the info said it is for semi-D, but it is just next to the old low cost flat)…really fishy…just to share what I have seen. Go & check it out yourself.

The construction beside ‘low cost flat’ is Vista Point, a Semi-D landed, still left two units, RM1.4mil onwards.

I am still thinking want to try my luck if they can launch with invitation cards and let people queuing. Understand there will not many good units left, but at least can get a ‘not so bad’ unit by queuing early. If this is not the way, then can forget it, or buy sub-sale.

The construction site next to the Curve is very small and probably can just fit in 8 units if semi-D. dunno whether the case like Kg Buah Pala for compensation to squatters…1.4mils sit right beside low cost flat (i am not refer to The Curve, but the old ugly blue building you can see from Coastal highway)? joke nia…no wonder so cheap still no one crab the remaining 25% semi-D(2 out of 8-estimated)..
@Ah Dog,
where you got so many insider information? I never heard or cannot find any information about this Vista Point Semi-D? u know someone work in Impresif Lengkap? Anyway, wish u good luck and get good units during launching.

No need to mind so much on the low cost flat. Why you mind? IJM’ s summer place, surrounded by so many LMC, can see Macallum (Jalan Lima) LMC too, smily and black river, who care? Lease hold sell at RM450k for only 1000sf, got 2 car parks la, but walk really far away, ‘ridiculous’ but people still like it.

@Ah Dog
Some people can’t see and some like the location which is in town area.

Kampung Buah pala was totally an unique case, can’t compare to this one, go find out the detail, not convenient to talk here. As of the Semi-D, only few units, and the price also not cheap as the layout not big. In front of The View you can see few Bangalows (but I really concern who is the owners, as they are very near to Jabatan ‘Kerajaan’) I think eventually that piece of land will fully developed with mix building from Condo, semi-D, bangalow, shop lots, Jabatan Office, and the existing low cost.

Still discussing on how to make money? you guys are like singing until the song stops while you guys doesn’t realize the song has already stopped before you guys sing?

@condomana
Can’t understand what you said? Are you telling this project stopped? I think this property will be selling like super hot cake if it is build by Ivory, IJM or Mah Sing, but, they need to sell at even lower price to attract more buyers as i still worry whether this project can be completed.

Heard that this condo launch next month, true or not?

I am tired of asking. Everytime I asked they also said next month. Now I have no idea which is the next month.

next time when after sold out and under construction, when people ask for O/C obtain date then they will tell you next month ,next month and next month until you have no idea is the next month

Wah, that scary? I called they said by end of this year, mean next month. Hope they will send invitation cards for launching day.

I been registered for this project.
Going to grab my superb unit there

Hi Penang, can we call the developer to register? How does it work?

No need to register already, the waiting list is far over 1000 people and the available units are only 296, and developer need to reserve for their stuff, bumi lots, and MM2H. They will call according to the waiting list by sequence.

Look guys, land is scarse in penang island and there aren’t many good property to invest in especially when you are talking about the seafront and new one. For high rise medium-high range 500psf for a leasehold.

I own 20 perperties in penang island over the last 20 years and and i know what i am talking about. Alot of the remarks here are damn childish and short-sighted which really making me sick.

@investor
So, investor, is this project a good buy? But good buy also not reach until normal residence like me as all units will be taken up by investor and their own people. Hope they can launch this project openly.

Firstly, congratulation on your ownership.

Secondly, mind sharing where in Penang is selling leasehold at 500psf relatively the past 20 years??

500psf never heard la, Putra Place also reach RM450psf only, the highest as of now, mostly ~RM400psf, for Villa Emas too.

But that one also with renovated and FF.

let’s compare apple to apple: How much is The View now? & Uban Residence? The resell & appreciation of The View is not that good, compare to other lower price properties (for example, Putra Place, and probably even the I-regency by I-deal). So what is the key difference? Location???

The View and The Uban can’t compare, and can’t talk at the same page with The Curve (although all start with ‘The’). Both The View and The Uban are high end condo, appreciation no good is because no nice view and build beside appartment (the uban) while the view not practical in house design and bad fengsui, while surrounding by squtters. After The Curve completed, and City World is there, The View surely will appreciate very well. But, no hope on The Uban, it is always empty, i think it is the poorest high end condo in Penang.

Hey I know every country has 2% of moron, but why are they all on this website?

C :Hey I know every country has 2% of moron, but why are they all on this website?

Bell Curve Theory.

Haha, I’m seeing Moron’s father from Moron family trying to comment here, with nonsense, and trying to provoke somet discussion that totally not related here.

Raise the price to 500 per sq. ft. and the remaining morons left will be in
BN.

@investor

If you own more than 20 properties in Penang, you should speak out something interesting but not acting self-proclaimationly to show the world how great you are surrounded by torns like a durian.

This project is definitely not a good buy,

1)Developer’s record

2)Expensive price

3)Noise

4)Dust

5)Squatters

6)Bad accessibility

@penang

are you kidding? grab superb units there? since when in a developer’s launch you’re able to get superb unit there?

1000 registered names and they will end up in some property fair with some (Not-nice unit)

believe me, it’ll be like the view

Condomana, those are not the push factors:

1 Techware was a little known developer whenthey developed Bayan Indah. Today their leasehold projects putra marine, place, gold coast have proven very successful and appreciated not less, if not more to any of the freehold in the island. Even the brother’s company Ivory started humbly years back by playing the white knight role with their maiden Tg Park Project. Who have heard of Ivory then?
2. During the start, people criticizing bayswater for being too close to the main-road, and next to the telecommunication tower. Find the answer for yourselve today, the most popular units are those 1313sf directly facing the road. Whats the heck of this dust and noise?
3. Squatters? Aren’t they gonna be chasing away? How many new projects actually declared canceled off permanently due to squatter issue? Recently Ardmore residence just get the case resolved, and even the toughest Buah Pala case also can be resolved.
4. Bad assessbility? Jelutong hwy is at the front, and sultan azlan shah is at the back.
5. 380psf indicative price expensive for a freehold project? You seriously are out-of-sync with current property price in Island.

@investor….

Mmmm… no response yet. You must be sick.

Mmm, now developer abadon project consider criminal case, can report police haha! Is Malaysia housing developement that bad? need to make it a criminal case? I support it as it protect us as consumer and buyers. But prison 3 years too little

@condomana
I agree with your point 2, 3, 4. Yeah, expensive, as a potential buyer, i force my self to say expensive. But if it is sell at RM300/sf, i will very scare to get one unit as wonder the outcome of the quality, as profit margin low, they will give you ‘toufu’ quality house.

Abandon project, should fine RM500,000 and prison 3 years at least, both together. Abandon housing project is very serious issue now.

Abandon project? you really think they will go through 500,00 and prison 3 years? it will take 2 more years for them to get their defense up, end up the responsibility will push to no where.

The land in bayan is at around 2xx per sq ft (market value) and they are selling at 380. the gap is in between RM180 and without calculating the labor cost and of course their profit. What makes you think this project will work??

Mmmm, the land is, let’s say RM300 psf, so, they sell each unit with RM380psf, only RM80 in different, but, they build 30 floor, so, RM2400 they earn psf. But, the land price when they bought shouldn’t exceed RM200psf. Total size of all 296 units, estimated all unit land size is 296x800sft = 236800sf, then their profit after minus land price is about RM568 million. RM500 million for all raw material, labour, bank interest, management, advertisement, sale, i think enough right? Still have 68 million.

When will this project launch?

Will it be another Lanai Seri or Mutiara Pica projects? Only hear and see the name but never happen. Noticed that the sign board of this project on Coastal highway/infront of this project has been withdrawn.

New developers usually have problems with obtaining OC. If they take such a long time to even start a project, u can imagine how long they’ll take to get the OC.

Yeah, it has been more than a year since this project firstly appeared.

It’s almost 2 years already since i register at their office on 22nd Jan 2010. That timur my registration is still within the first 100. Unfortunately recently i heard this developer had problem to allocate low cost flat. Think this project not happen so soon:(

It is terrible, just called their office, still not yet approve for the project by government.

I think Raffle Tower, Sierra Residence, The Wave, can be a good alternative to this one.

Raffle Tower and The Wave is expensive, but atleast the developer is reputable, still ok. Sierra is abit like playing in the bush, everything is still remain unknown

Hi Ah Dog,
Where is the location for Raffle Tower, Sierra Residence, The Wave ?

All you can check in this forum.

Raffles Tower can be superior than this one, if the price can rearrange from RM400psf to ~RM380psf. Althought the location is in Bukit Gambier, the access is not so bad, and can be quiet place than this The Curve, with a lot of greenery. After seeing Raffles Tower, I drop this.

The Wave at Sg. Ara is another choice for quiet and greenery place lovers, but price at RM500psf++ is a bit too much.

i doubt Raffles Tower is only rm400psf as it is associated with BSG…well known for jacking up price to the maxxxx@Ah Dog

Raffles Tower or The Curve? I am confused?

Raffles Tower a bit out of budget with RM560k++ (for 1400sf); while The Curve RM480k++ for ~1180sf. But Raffles Tower’s environment seems good, if facing pool, will not face the main street and can be quiet. While The Curve can be super duper noisy environment.

I bet they will raise the selling price at the launch, they had been gauging the response for a long time. Just like Sierra Residences.

i think the developer will wait the price can selling RM480psf,
that time will launch.
So Sad.

Hope this developer lauch at the ~RM380/sf price range. The 1000sf already revised to 1100sf. I will go for it, budget below RM500k, hope this can happen.

Heard that they wanted to launch in Jan 2012, so far no news yet. Any update on the project?

The project may be died already. What so great about the seaview? later going to be blocked by the Bayan World by Ivory. All highrise right in front.

The curve in trouble?

http://cforum6.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=2419187&extra=&page=27

＜http://www.nst.com.my/channels/learning-curve/discuss-best-approach-to-save-batu-uban-village-1.40865＞

＜http://www.nst.com.my/local/general/historic-batu-uban-under-threat-1.31722＞

Resubmit the plan on 8-Aug-11 still under progress but had been delayed compare with benchmark.

http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Proj1_Info.cfm?Name=291448&S=S

A13 Kebenaran Merancang get rejected on 14th Feb 2012. Seem this project not able to solve the issues

http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Borang_info.cfm?ID=163654&NoForm=Form2

@eric

Oh no, the issue will take long time to resolve. Temporary ignore on this project and focus for others.

@WK,
Yeah, you are right. Have been 2 years since register for this project.. Let’s focus on others

OMG; need to really drop the plan of buying this project, can’t wait anymore. Any other alternative choice? New project?

Has the project been approved?

Juz check, status permohonan DI TOLAK as of 14 Feb 2012???? http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Borang_info.cfm?ID=163654&NoForm=Form2

T-tolak = ditolak? hehehe…..no relocation for those 56 unit?

Just called and they will resubmit plan again. Earliest July to know the results.
Question is, will they still launch at rm380/sq ft?

That’s mean this is the 4th submission. Hopefully can approve and got 1 more project to decide.

M still looking forward for that project. Good location and hopefully the price still stand at RM380/sq ft ya!

what is the reason application being rejected? and base on what reason they re-submit? if it is due to unsettled squatters/compensation issue, then what is the point to re-submit? Unless it is rejected because of the design/plan not meeting certain regulations.

How reliable is this developer.?they said they are just bunch of contractors.they started another project but using diff name..btw they are resubmitting with the plan of including a lmc apart near the vicinity

If with LMC nearby, I think this round shld b approve. Yes, 8 units of Semi-D build in progress there under diff name. The only attractive shld b the price. If remain the same as RM400 per sqft on that location.

@Obamana
I hav e 2 units direct from developer. Interested pls email me ur details.

Hi Victor I m interested,pls email me. Jasonchang2008@hotmail.com thanks.