Horrible project. Chicken smell all over. Feel sorry for u guys.

@peter wong
lol…i though u should congrate us for willing to spend half a million at a property with chicken smell? half a million leh,is half a million leh….i’m so proud of myself! hahaha

@Chan
Half a million for chicken. It is finger licking good smell

@Chan

Nothing wrong in congratulating all owners for purchasing half a million
property BUT congratulating all owners buying in such a location with
many complaints and unfavorable conditions will be insulting owners’
intelligence.

Lol. I juz realize u al are so care about the purchaser here even u’re totally nt apart of us. Nvm la,we see how after 2years completion. Den decide whose has a better choice

It’s typical reaction of those who miss a good deal…..it will certainly never come again at such a price for any location with this chicken essence. The market price already speak for itself. Hee! Hee!

the house price already up by RM20k and when the bumiputera lot released the price will up by another RM30k — so for those who have signed up — before your got your OC, you virtually already earned RM50K — congratulations to all who have signed the S&P.

Phase II – all bungalows and Phase III – semi-D with smaller land area.

I finally own a house !!!!!!

we are going to be neighbour soon.

Anyone received bank letter asking for interest payment due to the foundation completion?

@Crazy
sorry, got price no market.

@desmond
Folo trend,ppl say you also folo. Take the prove, speak the fact and v shall talk. Otherwise, talkcock !

@desmond
Got buyer, no seller….so got price, no market. Wait till completion and see. Anyway, this is serious project. Not so much for speculators. People buy to stay. Real property estate is always good investment. It is not now, it is the future.

walao, someone who create fb page pls add me up!!

@Chan
don’t angry, ps was own stay but don’t invest, only my opinion.

desmond :@Crazy sorry, got price no market.

what are you talking about – got price no market? non-bumiputra lots – all good location already sold out lah — people are now waiting for the bumiputera lot —

@Chan
The demand for new properties is indeed very high. Buyers would snap up the new properties from developers very fast (whether own stay or investor). However the demand for sub-sale properties are appalling. Once the properties are completed, the owners will face a hard time trying to sell the property in the secondary market. I’ve friends who invested in Southbay Batu Maung. Although on paper the prices have gone up from RM700k to more than RM1mil, but they are having hard time selling the house at the so called “market price”. So the comment of “got price no market” indeed hold some water.

@Shawn
More than a million property in Batu Maung area is harder to sell. Morever
it is a 3 storey which many people prefer 2 storey. There are many 3
storey in town area selling around this price.

How many salaried factory employees can afford more than 1 million
property ?

@Telescope
That’s exactly my point.
When market prices are up & up until out of reach for ordinary people, then it will be “got price but no market” situation. The situation is not confined to Batu Maung only, but also to a lot of other properties which prices are approaching or exceeding RM1 million mark.

Yes …. u are right.

@Shawn
Got price but no market – that is on the island ..not at the mainland ..mainland property is still at affordable price for many island people

the 20 years, low cost single storey house (RM25K) at Taman Sri Kijang now worth RM150K and selling like hot cakes ..

I wonder how long they will hold until ppl afford to buy? Bubble?

Time will speak. No point make judgement now when can’t see anythg yet.

You don’t need “bubble or balloon” for this area, all you have is to hold,
hold,hold very long. The longest you can go !!!.

This project is not worthwhile. With that much of money, i will buy penang condo and gain at least RM80-100k easily

@Fool
If everyone have the same thinking as yours, who wan buy your property? u wan to sell who? u talk like each property is buy to resell, then u should now live in hotel, nt in your own house, as it is not worthwhile to stay rather den to sell it !

@Fool
you know how big is the house — more than 3000 square feet lah — how big is Penang condo ?? my friend has one condo (950 square feet) at price RM450K 0- should call it as pigeon hole high rise building and another friend has one condo (1200 square feet) at price RM680K – some more need to pay monthly maintenance fee for whole life with commercial electricity bill . .

@Fool
yes, in Penang you can easily earn RM80 to RM100k but mostly are gain virtually —

Big or small, Fool is not going to stay there. He is trapped on the island and will have no nice words for wise people who buys reasonably priced property for a roof over their head and on the mainland that is within his limited budget. A speculator sees nothing more than $$$$. When the economy turns, these are the ones who cry foul !

What’s the different if stay at island or mainland? Both also Penang. Jz depend on own convenient. Will it make ur status higher or high standard if stay at island? If that so, what if “A” bought a 3 million ringgit banglo at mainland and “B” buy a 3 million ringgit condo at island? “A” or “B” is more high status? Who will having a nicer space of life? Or only in island can get nice food. Or only at island can shopping at mall? What’s the different folks?

I won’t mind at all a bungalow with a swimming pool on the mainland at the price of an island condo. Talking about value, which has more??

Where else can i find project that has same concept and nice landscape like permatang sanctuary?
Thanks

Yea… most of developer will provide only small playground at the end if the residence. No space to breath or recreation. Have to travel quite a distance for evening walks or jogging.

Yea, which project has the chicken smell like permatang sanctuary? You can always have the feeling staying in kampung

Fool person will always talk fool words. “Whoever can’t get the sweet, he will always say the sweet is bitter”. Can’t do much to change a fool, since he is already fool.

Hey K2, the chicken smell is the fact. I own an unit here and regret of buying after experience the chicken smell myself on few occasions I was at the site. Pls accept the fact and don’t try to be defensive.

K2 :
Fool person will always talk fool words. “Whoever can’t get the sweet, he will always say the sweet is bitter”. Can’t do much to change a fool, since he is already fool.

brother, that area is well known for chicken coop…
this area is aromatic will chicken poo poo…this is the solid fact.. poo poo smell will go away if the chicken coop move to somewhere else……
don’t be so excited when someone give a comment ( a truth) you feel offensive….. ….

@K2
Pls stop personal attack and accept the fact of the finger lickin good smell of chicken.

Chicken farm will stay as the owner has no intention to sell his farm. Moreover, he has bought PS units not sure for own stay or worker hostel. These are all facts and don’t have hard feeling if you just realized

Fool :
Chicken farm will stay as the owner has no intention to sell his farm. Moreover, he has bought PS units not sure for own stay or worker hostel. These are all facts and don’t have hard feeling if you just realized

Why you so excited of this project and keep come back to comment if its none of your business? Kampung feel or not, what u care coz we’re staying there… Not you. We all aware of this before hand over our money to developer. Beside, show Village and Sanctuary Garden project site is far away, even further from chicken farm if compare to show village. (Are you aware?) We as buyer don’t mind, and fyi all units is almost sold out. Just wonder what is your motive to condemn this project since you’re not a buyer? Just go buy island project, since you so like it.

Let’s think for awhile. If chicken farmer buys brand new property to make hostel, it must be an investment with potential ROI. Why? It costs much more to make a hostel from a new property than many older houses that are available all around the taman. He is indeed spoilt for choice. If anything, it won’t be long. By the way, it isn’t all looking or smelling so bad as it made out to be. We can certainly tolerate that little bit of nuisance with a 10 to 15% discounted price. It is a bet worth considering since we are in no hurry to sell. Afterall, some choose to pay premium for property just a little further away, like Taman Jesselton, but still share the same air in the vicinity. It is their choice. Yet there are others willing to pay more than 600k for a double storey terrace near the old BM town or 1m on the island. Todate, there is no news of any mass sale of houses around the taman nor any panic migration out of Alma. People are still coming in droves, settling there and boosting the township. The amenities and infrastructure all around is also improving. Go a little further, the double storey terrace in Pearl Indah are not cheap either. All around Simpang Empat, there are more chicken coops. So, the search ends here.

JK :
Let’s think for awhile. If chicken farmer buys brand new property to make hostel, it must be an investment with potential ROI. Why? It costs much more to make a hostel from a new property than many older houses that are available all around the taman. He is indeed spoilt for choice. If anything, it won’t be long. By the way, it isn’t all looking or smelling so bad as it made out to be. We can certainly tolerate that little bit of nuisance with a 10 to 15% discounted price. It is a bet worth considering since we are in no hurry to sell. Afterall, some choose to pay premium for property just a little further away, like Taman Jesselton, but still share the same air in the vicinity. It is their choice. Yet there are others willing to pay more than 600k for a double storey terrace near the old BM town or 1m on the island. Todate, there is no news of any mass sale of houses around the taman nor any panic migration out of Alma. People are still coming in droves, settling there and boosting the township. The amenities and infrastructure all around is also improving. Go a little further, the double storey terrace in Pearl Indah are not cheap either. All around Simpang Empat, there are more chicken coops. So, the search ends here.

Yeap, you say it all. Wise man talking… I’m just need to agreed.

K2 :

JK :
Let’s think for awhile. If chicken farmer buys brand new property to make hostel, it must be an investment with potential ROI. Why? It costs much more to make a hostel from a new property than many older houses that are available all around the taman. He is indeed spoilt for choice. If anything, it won’t be long. By the way, it isn’t all looking or smelling so bad as it made out to be. We can certainly tolerate that little bit of nuisance with a 10 to 15% discounted price. It is a bet worth considering since we are in no hurry to sell. Afterall, some choose to pay premium for property just a little further away, like Taman Jesselton, but still share the same air in the vicinity. It is their choice. Yet there are others willing to pay more than 600k for a double storey terrace near the old BM town or 1m on the island. Todate, there is no news of any mass sale of houses around the taman nor any panic migration out of Alma. People are still coming in droves, settling there and boosting the township. The amenities and infrastructure all around is also improving. Go a little further, the double storey terrace in Pearl Indah are not cheap either. All around Simpang Empat, there are more chicken coops. So, the search ends here.

Yeap, you say it all. Wise man talking… I’m just need to agreed.

The wise will never buy on mainland……

chris :
Hey K2, the chicken smell is the fact. I own an unit here and regret of buying after experience the chicken smell myself on few occasions I was at the site. Pls accept the fact and don’t try to be defensive.

The smell comes free of charge… those who deny maybe because the wind did not blow in their direction when they are there…. they to live there and surely you all will be blessed by the chicky smell…wah so nice especially during lunch, dinner or evening walk…. hee hee hee…

Lam :
Where else can i find project that has same concept and nice landscape like permatang sanctuary?
Thanks

Nice chicky smell too… it will get worse as I heard more coops are coming up…. good luck mainlanders

Penang Homes :

K2 :

JK :
Let’s think for awhile. If chicken farmer buys brand new property to make hostel, it must be an investment with potential ROI. Why? It costs much more to make a hostel from a new property than many older houses that are available all around the taman. He is indeed spoilt for choice. If anything, it won’t be long. By the way, it isn’t all looking or smelling so bad as it made out to be. We can certainly tolerate that little bit of nuisance with a 10 to 15% discounted price. It is a bet worth considering since we are in no hurry to sell. Afterall, some choose to pay premium for property just a little further away, like Taman Jesselton, but still share the same air in the vicinity. It is their choice. Yet there are others willing to pay more than 600k for a double storey terrace near the old BM town or 1m on the island. Todate, there is no news of any mass sale of houses around the taman nor any panic migration out of Alma. People are still coming in droves, settling there and boosting the township. The amenities and infrastructure all around is also improving. Go a little further, the double storey terrace in Pearl Indah are not cheap either. All around Simpang Empat, there are more chicken coops. So, the search ends here.

Yeap, you say it all. Wise man talking… I’m just need to agreed.

The wise will never buy on mainland……

For those work and stay at mainland will buy. Only fools will like to go island to cramp up jz to get a 1000sqft hse with 600k price. And to travel daily frm mainland to island. Thats what I mean, fools.

K2 :

Penang Homes :

K2 :

JK :
Let’s think for awhile. If chicken farmer buys brand new property to make hostel, it must be an investment with potential ROI. Why? It costs much more to make a hostel from a new property than many older houses that are available all around the taman. He is indeed spoilt for choice. If anything, it won’t be long. By the way, it isn’t all looking or smelling so bad as it made out to be. We can certainly tolerate that little bit of nuisance with a 10 to 15% discounted price. It is a bet worth considering since we are in no hurry to sell. Afterall, some choose to pay premium for property just a little further away, like Taman Jesselton, but still share the same air in the vicinity. It is their choice. Yet there are others willing to pay more than 600k for a double storey terrace near the old BM town or 1m on the island. Todate, there is no news of any mass sale of houses around the taman nor any panic migration out of Alma. People are still coming in droves, settling there and boosting the township. The amenities and infrastructure all around is also improving. Go a little further, the double storey terrace in Pearl Indah are not cheap either. All around Simpang Empat, there are more chicken coops. So, the search ends here.

Yeap, you say it all. Wise man talking… I’m just need to agreed.

The wise will never buy on mainland……

For those work and stay at mainland will buy. Only fools will like to go island to cramp up jz to get a 1000sqft hse with 600k price. And to travel daily frm mainland to island. Thats what I mean, fools.

The wise would remain wise and fools will remains fools……. buying on mainland is definitely not wise….

@Penang Homes
i don’t understand why you are saying buying on mainland is definitely not wise. if you are a rich man, then I think is ok for you to choose island — 1000sq ft with 600k price … if you are just a wage earner — i think it is more wise for you to buy ps or houses at mainland — 3220sq ft with less than 600k. big empty land for you to do gardening …open the main door, you can see your beautiful car — and sometime, can smell the chicken — not bad becuase this type of smell can be hardly found …

@Penang Homes
Buying on the island is definitely unwise and foolish. Why live in the air instead of having a solid foot on the ground? There is less to pay monthly and there is no need to slog like a poor slave for umpteen years to pay an over-inflated apartment. What is the price of prestige? Is it not better having some excess to spend holidays with the family then to run the rat race with all the other rats for a little living space in the air and say “I live on the island”??? Oh no….not me nor any who have made the decision to buy PS.

Those work at mainland should buy and stay in mainland. Those work on island should stay on island. Then the bridge traffic solved….

I wonder how much renovation cost that I should prepare to renovate 3220sft 3ST. Min 200k kua or else will look empty.

@Bryan
The divide between mainland and island is growing obscure. Look and see a little ahead to understand why….the 2nd Penang Bridge is completing in Sept 2013. The physical connectivity is improving and the sea is no longer an obstruction to the free flow of traffic, both human and cargo. Next…look at technology. There is no restraint to the flow of information and knowledge with the internet. Distance is blurring. What is island or mainland when you can connect even globally? You can work from home. You could even have conference on your computer with several sites around the globe. Next, look at the most notable investments in Penang in 2012/2013. VAT, Bose Corp and Malaysian Automotive Lighting have all chosen to put their investment in Batu Kawan. Look at the bigger picture!

SP :
@Penang Homes
Buying on the island is definitely unwise and foolish. Why live in the air instead of having a solid foot on the ground? There is less to pay monthly and there is no need to slog like a poor slave for umpteen years to pay an over-inflated apartment. What is the price of prestige? Is it not better having some excess to spend holidays with the family then to run the rat race with all the other rats for a little living space in the air and say “I live on the island”??? Oh no….not me nor any who have made the decision to buy PS.

True! Those ppl buy hse at island is due to they working at there. Due to travel distance. So they have no choice. If have choice, of course its better to have a bigger house with cheaper price at mainland. Less crowd and also landed. Nt jz a box house in the sky. What so premium if stay at island? Jz because its a small house with high price? To show that you’re rich enough to buy small expensive house? Jz don’t understand.

Luckily there is a chicken coop nearby.
Else, i won’t be able to grap one.

Phase 2 open for registration.
Strictly for those willing to co-exist wt chicken.

2014 , road leading to carrefour/bkt tengah fr alma will be widen to 4 lanes

@hang
Part of the 2nd link project? Road widening frm carefour till batu kawan?

JK :
@Bryan
The divide between mainland and island is growing obscure. Look and see a little ahead to understand why….the 2nd Penang Bridge is completing in Sept 2013. The physical connectivity is improving and the sea is no longer an obstruction to the free flow of traffic, both human and cargo. Next…look at technology. There is no restraint to the flow of information and knowledge with the internet. Distance is blurring. What is island or mainland when you can connect even globally? You can work from home. You could even have conference on your computer with several sites around the globe. Next, look at the most notable investments in Penang in 2012/2013. VAT, Bose Corp and Malaysian Automotive Lighting have all chosen to put their investment in Batu Kawan. Look at the bigger picture!

Yes. Look at the bigger picture and 20~30 year further in your life. Distance is never a problem if you are single, or married without kids. Your life with change if you step into that phase. Within the island, we still looking for more convenient location and driving path of school and other amenities to make our life easier. Don’t mention about the “convenience” of 2nd bridge and technology. I have wasted 3 year time by traveling across the bridge daily, from Tasek Mutiara.

And also look into the age when you lazy to drive anymore, and when start looking around for the nearest specialist/ hospital.

Another thing. This should not be the first time you move house and I think will not be the last one as well. So, event you plan for own stay now, still need to look for the resell value as you may upgrade your home in future.

And, if you work on island, and afford a landed on island, you will still prefer landed on mainland?

@Bryan
20 to 30 years from now? Your point of view indicates only one big assumption….. the island grows, the mainland does not! You forgot that the mainland not only can grow but it has more room to grow sideways and upwards, wider, higher and further, just a bit slower! Demand starts from the island and spreads towards the mainland. Everybody will have a fair share in time. It is where you want to start? Which development does not come with improved amenities or infrastructure? Demand will drive development. No demand, no development. Slower demand, slower development! Island and mainland….how far apart is it to justify the extra premium now? Batu Ferringhi to Bayan Lepas or BM to Bayan Lepas……not much of a difference in distance but price is a world of difference. You can just as well upgrade to a bungalow on the mainland as you would do on the island but the effort to realize it, you can surely guess. The point is not just money buys or money makes more money, but there is no need to chase the spiralling price of an island condo. Life isn’t less enjoyable or less prestigious when you live further away. A pretty nice car could take you pretty far no matter where you stay in Penang. How big is it after all?

@K2

RM14mil Road Project to Ease Traffic Flow

29 Jan , TheStar/Metro – RESIDENTS and motorists in Alma and Bukit Tengah in Bukit Mertajam can expect a smoother traffic flow as the state government will undertake a RM14mil road widening project there.

Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng said the project on the 1.5km stretch would be widened from two lanes to four lanes, and would commence in January 2014.

“This road is the main route for Taman Alma residents and Bukit Minyak industrial area workers to go anywhere, and the traffic congestion has remained unsolved for the past 30 years.

“This will be one of the state’s biggest road development projects in five years, and there will be no house relocation so locals need not worry,” he told a press conference after inspecting Jalan Bukit Minyak yesterday.

Lim said this project would start after the RM20.4mil road widening project in Jalan Song Ban Kheng in Bukit Mertajam was completed.

Is all down to the individual. Some ppl prefer to stay in Island, some prefer province wellesley. If money is not the constraint,then can buy landed at where you like and maybe you want to choose to live near to your parent,family members or friends.

If have budjet around 500k, all you can affrod is condo in Island or landed in province wellesley.Is down to your choice whether you like to stay in condo or landed. If have budjet 300k, then I think is better buy landed property in province wellesley rather than apartment in Island.Travel? I not too sure because I myself cannot guarantee that I will forever working in Island or province wellesley.

So is not like which side better, each individual do your own calculation. Is not about bigger house or condo. Is worse if you committed to a home that you cannot afford. Use only 30% of monthly salary to pay the monthly installment and target to pay off housing loan before 50.The rest is your expenses,children and retirement.

from my own observation if you have budget constraint,in province wellesley a decent 20*40 double storey unit is good enough for family of four.If corner unit than better. When getting older,less likely you will move again when you familier with the surroundings and friends unless move to stay with your children.

So plan carefully when purchase a home, discuss with your spouse because purchasing a house has a much greater financial impact on the family.Don’t over commit, think of yourself and children, life will more easier with less debt.

Remember, “a home should not burdened with debt,it should loaded with bundles of joy.”

JK :
@Bryan
20 to 30 years from now? Your point of view indicates only one big assumption….. the island grows, the mainland does not! You forgot that the mainland not only can grow but it has more room to grow sideways and upwards, wider, higher and further, just a bit slower! Demand starts from the island and spreads towards the mainland. Everybody will have a fair share in time. It is where you want to start? Which development does not come with improved amenities or infrastructure? Demand will drive development. No demand, no development. Slower demand, slower development! Island and mainland….how far apart is it to justify the extra premium now? Batu Ferringhi to Bayan Lepas or BM to Bayan Lepas……not much of a difference in distance but price is a world of difference. You can just as well upgrade to a bungalow on the mainland as you would do on the island but the effort to realize it, you can surely guess. The point is not just money buys or money makes more money, but there is no need to chase the spiralling price of an island condo. Life isn’t less enjoyable or less prestigious when you live further away. A pretty nice car could take you pretty far no matter where you stay in Penang. How big is it after all?

I can’y really get what you meant. Let me answer point by point.

1. I made assumption Island grow but not mainland? Well, this is actually your assumption. If you agree that mainland grow slower, I can’t understand why you can’t agree that a person work on island should get a property on island. I have a condo on island. Anytime, I can just sell it and get a PS, or top up another half condo price to get a landed on island. But if today I have a PS, I think I also can sell PS and get a condo on island, of upgrade to an island landed. But how long I need to sell the PS? Also, I have option to rent out the condo at RM2k/m to pay 1/2 of my landed installment, but how much I can rent PS out. You see the point? I just having more and better options now.

2. Mainland is having more room to grow…. how you define it? By looking at the high property price on island or KL or JB? You can’t make this assumption. The growing room of a property price is depend on the economy activities, amenities, developments, politics and so on. If the grow on mainland is because of the demands spread over from the island, I don’t really think the room for grow is a lot. Only when mainland can create his own demands, then the room for grow can get bigger.

3. Demand drive development? I think it is chicken and egg question. Aren’t you said the 2nd bridge bring the demand to mainland? Isn’t 2nd bridge is a development? If not the Tesco setting up in this location, do you think this location will in focus? Demand and development, comes together. But when my parents need to do surgery, they still look for famous hospital on island, travel from Perak, and need to stay nearby for conveniences. Ipoh also have a few good hospital what. But when come to health, people still prefer famous doctor.

4. Batu Ferringhi travel to Bayan Lepas, I lagi don’t understand why this comparison come in place. Basically, people stay in Bt Ferringhi can get almost everything at that area, nothing in Bayan Lepas interest them. Those still work in FIZ is mainly local and is only minorities. Majority work force in FIZ are from out station. They will not choose Bt Ferringhi as their home. So, we leave it aside, OK?

5. BM travel to Bayan Lepas, jam 1 round BM, another jam on bridge, and jam after reach Bayan Lepas. Not sure you able to appreciate that I only use my lunch time to collect the RM100 gov fund for my son. morning leave home 8:30am to fetch children to day care/ nursery and still can reach office by 9am, evening leave office 5:45pm and still manage to fetch my children from nursery/ school on 6:10pm. My wife still can cook at night and everything done by 8pm, and can start teach children on their school homework and play around, and for them to go to bed by 9:30pm. When I stay in mainland, I only reach home averagely 7pm. That time no need to fetch children some more.

When by a house, need to consider whether it is suitable for stay in different stage of your life.

@Bryan
Wow Bryan,
You are almost highlighting my points that why I still go for 2 units of new condos in Island. Oh ya, their price are equal to 2 x PS. (of course a huge different if compare the size)
It shouldn’t have big problem if one day (after 3 or 5 or 10 years……), I change my mind to stay in Island, I don’t think I will have hard time to find a double storey in Mainland (let say if I want to stay in Mainland) by renting out on hand Island property/sell it off.
Just my view, no offence.

@Alvin

Islander always have same thinking. Some more we almost become neighbor. But I do agree that PS is a good place for those working on mainland. Save the traveling time for family.

Apologize for PS owners if my comments offence anyone. I just want to defend my statement that either islander or mainland people, we should stay near to where you work. If you change job frequently, then other story.

@Bryan
1. If the island only can offer convenient locations to amenities and schools and the mainland does not have such basic amenities, then is this not as if the mainland is looking like a kampong that has stagnated? On the contrary, today the mainland already have great shopping complexes, good highways, public hospitals, schools, parks, etc. that are easily accessible. It could be better (in terms of distance) staying close to where you work but how far is considered close? Perhaps your baseline is measured by the minutes! On the price of island property, there is no disagreement on your point but options do come with some hassle. It is not affordable (unless you are very rich) to pick 2 options at the same time, only one at a time.
2. Room for growth was not about the price of the property. It was about the space. Mainland can undeniably offer more land for development so it can grow wider and further.
3. In under-developed areas, it may be true that the Government will develop first because they have strategically earmarked it for development. Maybe no demand yet. However, housing developers will often study public demand first before dive in to start a township. They are naturally profit orientated. They will only develop a township if there is buyer demand. In Penang, most places are in demand, just need to develop the place!
4. Not sure what you are saying. Nothing to do with amenities or convenience. People who work in Bayan Lepas FIZ come from all parts of Penang, irrespective whether they are from outstation or not.
5. Entering Bayan Lepas is same for everyone…..islanders and mainlanders all converge here. Sure enough, there is more time leftover staying on the island, work on the island. Didn’t say it was wrong to do that, just saying options on the mainland are very attractive. The difference is on the bridge. With the 2nd bridge, conditions will improve. No need to pay extra premium for a mainland property. All amenities and conveniences are also available.

@JK

Fair enough. For many people, travel across the bridge is not a problem. Bridge toll is not much but the time spent is precious for me. If you have a housewife, not so big problem. But if both working, you will feel the heat.

1. When the basic amenities available, people start to look for variety and choice of better service and so on. Taiping also has many basic amenities.
2. Room to grow refer to more land for development, as well as more housing projects. That is the reason the sub-sales market is not that good on mainland in general. The amenities also spread wide, not concentrate.
3. I can agree with this.
4. I rule out Bt Ferringhi because if someone work in FIZ still stay in BF, he/she majority a Pg local originally stay near BF. Out station work in FIZ, majority will setup home nearby Bayan Baru, and recently spread to BM/ Alma due to cheaper price.
5. The premium will get the pay off. My installment on my landed now is just 1K per month. The rest taken care by the condo rental. This is after I waste my 3 years time on a semi-D on BTM.

This is just my experience sharing. I study a lot when moved to mainland and also was thinking a lot to conclude that my move was a mistake. I missed the property price quantum jump in 2005 as my semi-D do not benefit from it, but luckily still managed to move back to island before the property boom in 2008.

Hello all,

Have you all got the money release from bank already?

I received the due date of first release of progress payment is 5th Feb. But The lawyer told me can wait further for next 2 weeks. I wondering if those purchased this house have get bank release first payment to IJM?

I dont want to pay interest due to late progress payment.

@Bryan
Who would have known that the padi fields and animal farms of Bayan Baru in yesteryears have now become hot property? If my uncle knew, he wud not have released his attap house and farm for a miserable sum in the heart of Bayan Baru. I believe those who invested in PS did it with reasons already known to them……a landed property (versus a condo) at a reasonable price with good potential returns. On the mainland, there are still gems to be found. They may not shine today but they could sparkle one day. Who knows if PS will not be a gem? With inflated property prices all around, the choices are much less elsewhere for most people!

@Ben

Developer will stick to the due date 5th February.

Later Date , they will charge you interest.

Some developer will waived it if you appeal.

MAKE SURE YOUR LAWYER GET READY ALL THE DOCUMENTS as the Bank will only release money if everything is in order.

Bryan :
Those work at mainland should buy and stay in mainland. Those work on island should stay on island. Then the bridge traffic solved….

Many people can’t afford to buy house/condo in island……that the main reason certain group of people moving from Island to mainland.

There r no different actually. Jz that Penangites is not use to travel slightly further away from and to work. See at our capital state, mostly ppl working in KL is staying at PJ. Same situation here, they can’t effort to buy hse in KL anymore. So they need to get a hse in PJ. What a big deal to stay away from Penang island? Either island or mainland. It’s stil Penang right?

The cheapest bumi unit will release at the end of this year. According to IJM developer, it will be priced about RM70K above its initial launch price. If not going to wait, their bungalows are launching at 680K in April. It’s price is way below those crazy prices on the island and suitable for long term stay. Last year had the most number of property launches in Penang. Just wonder how much excess stock will be generated by 2015 when all these are released?

Can someone tell me where is the exact location? I round & round the taman opp tesco but still lost

@Jamie
Stay on the main road opposite Tesco until you reach the end of a row of old shophouses. Keep left, turn left and don’t go up the ramp. You will see PS on the right within 100 yards. Sales gallery and show house is opened everyday. Btw, I am no salesman. You can see Gobe or any of the sales staff there.

@Jamie

Limited units left….Not that good unit ady. As usual…left over unit. Bt still can consider.

Last week i went there, the sale man say Bumi lots going to release soon, for those who are interested to buy can just register your name

Anyone receive letter from bank for the installment repayment? It has been due quite some time but lawyer still not yet release the sum….

@Chan
I didn’t received anythg yet so far. Same as you, wondering why so long still no progress.

All Sanctuary Garden Residents… Lets join this FB page and make it official. Discuss all the problems there. https://www.facebook.com/sanctuary.permatang?ref=ts&fref=ts

sbtan :Last week i went there, the sale man say Bumi lots going to release soon, for those who are interested to buy can just register your name

Can only release if 80% complete….so cannot be so soon !

Chan :Anyone receive letter from bank for the installment repayment? It has been due quite some time but lawyer still not yet release the sum….

Already released 1st installment and interest charged to account (Maybank) end of Jan 2013

@SP
When did you sign the SNP? I had sign in middle of Dec, but still didn’t get any update on installment yet. (Maybank too).

Sign SnP on 14/12/2012 after paid the balance of 10%. The 2nd 10% released to bank by lawyer end of Jan 2013 upon completion of foundation. Release from bank depends on progress of construction of your unit and the amount of loan you have taken.

SP :Sign SnP on 14/12/2012 after paid the balance of 10%. The 2nd 10% released to bank by lawyer end of Jan 2013 upon completion of foundation. Release from bank depends on progress of construction of your unit and the amount of loan you have taken.

I mean released to IJM by Maybank through the lawyer.

O.. If that so, mine should be end of this month. Cause my signing is slightly later than yours.

House gate number had already confirmed or not? Anyone?

when will the bank start to collect money? Till now still no news….

Receive lawyer letter mentioned bank dint folo the letter of undertaking format as requested by developer, tis d main reason payment nt yet release

Chan,which bank you are applying?OCBC?

@PS
Yup

Bank had drawn down for the 1st payment.

Jz done 1st advance payment. Think bank wil release the next 20% soon

Heard that Alma Jusco started pilling

is 2nd phase launched?

@PS

saw the machine already. lorry in-out frequently. when the time “Aeon coming soon” board stand on ground, Alma property instantly raise again…

Aeon is coming? Are you sure?

Is a good news

Jusco = ka ching ka ching!

To future fellow Permatang Sanctuarians, looking forward to having bbqs and a chill beer with you folks.

To fellow non-Permatang Sancturians, don’t you have your own forum where you can share positive exchanges with your fellow neighbors? Just saying …

what does ka ching ka ching mean?

$ $ $$$

@Chan
Chan..then when only do we need to start paying for the instalment?? Im getting worried as till now I stil have not received any letter from bank..

Anyone has received letter from bank??

Letter asking for 3rd 15% will be sent out this week.

@hang
So fast??my bank not even send letter to ask me pay for interest

@Sure?

sure.

@Hunnyshinez
I Ade start installment. Probably the third release soon. Anything u may whatapp or msg me. Don b too worried

How long it takes for a bank to approve 90% loan?

Approx 1 to 2 weeks

That’s fast.is it applicable to all banks?

To my knowledge. Public bank and Hong leong bank are able to deliver that.

Oh I see.thank you for ur info.

Aeon started clearing site

This project have been sold out?

limited units left

@T
hi, you can consider taman impian ria. Just infront of PS. Cheap and nice design

hi all, I received a letter from lawyer asking me to execute the charge annexure. Anyone knows about this? How much we need to pay?

Sanctuary villa show house is in progress…

Any updates for this project??

Any latest update on the progress? When expected to be completed?

This project long time no ppl update already. shud be completed by year end of 2014

Lol.. It’s b4 mid of 2014. It’s already 60% state now. Wonder where did you get the year end story? Did you visit the site lately?

what i heard is around Aug’14. btw, nw the bank financial part ade release until 45%. should be receiving another 15% in the nxt coming month….

Went to site recenlty. Nice house, good concept and well designed landscape. BUt……
DOnt you all think the chicken smell is a real headache??
Imagine early in the morning, go to the landscape and take a deep breath, walau…….

Chicken smell… after for a while you will get use to it ma. Ok OK loh.

If you’re talking about own stay, whether it’s mainland or island, it all depends on preference and lifestyle. People get used to smell (all types of smell if you’re living in mainland), as long as it doesn’t kill you….:)

But if you’re talking about investment, surely island is better. Don’t invest in something because it’s cheap, invest because you think more people would like to have it (especially rich people as money is never a limit for them) and there’s limited supply….:)

plan to secure a unit here… which phase is opening for sale now?

Phase 1 still has few balance units for sale which very close to chicken coop. Bumilot going to release year end with higher price ofcos. They promoting the phase 2 now.

which lot# is still available for phase 1?

How much is the subsale link semiD people will to pay?

TL :
How much is the subsale link semiD people will to pay?

How much u willing to sell? Which plot unit?

Not yet selling. Just check the market price.

I don’t intend to sell. I found the location is good. Jusco construction on going, A lot of development is on going. Alma will be the good place to live. I wonder if there will be a road going to new jit sin school without go thru the main road.

No doubt PS is a nice place.

Can admin put up the master plan for IJM’ PS?

This place not that great! Use Jusco to boost the market. Even Jusco Perda only crownded during weekend. Jusco BM will be slow as only BM people will go there!

I even hope Jusco is not there so the housing price is not that high..

MK77, u might be wrong, i dont think Jusco will make wrong decision for 2 times.

@MK77
Gurney Plaza and even Queensbay ball also crowded only during the weekend . . . Perda is Malay dominated area where else Alma is Chinese dominated area — so Jusco now make the correct decision

PS is gated area? Or only guarded area only?

@Chocolate
PS is only guarded area

I always thought that PS is G&G project.

Since it is not gated area, PS have to share the entrance with Impian Indah phase 2 residences. Now i feel better because not buying PS. 😛

I notice also the land is below Impian Indah phase 2. Anyone going to check whether PS is flooded in this raining season?

Is there any clubhouse within the whole IJM PS plan?

The two main entrance to Impian Ria just hit by flash flood. About half of Perodua Kelisa height in certain area. Curious how is the situation in PS now?

Chocolate :
The two main entrance to Impian Ria just hit by flash flood. About half of Perodua Kelisa height in certain area. Curious how is the situation in PS now?

Chocolate,

New Impian Ria also flood? or the old taman?

Yupe, flooded in the main road but not sure the residency area, even i drive 4wd also not dare to drive thru. I stop in front of SK Tmn Impian then follow a car route to another way escaped from the area. Jln Impian Indah also teruk! Most of the vehicles use Sri Impian road to go out to Jln Roshan.

Gov have to do something in this area, may be with help from IJM.

IJM and DNP are in the deep shit now, many fingers pointed to them for causing the recent flash flood in Saujana Indah and Impian Ria area.

Hope MPSP can give more pressure to them to build a better living environment for us.

Any updates on this project?

Does chicken farm out with the bad smell can be solved?

I juz got offer for Sanctuary Court Apartment. Is the location/environment ok.Any idea???

Went to the site and took some pictures. Phase 1 is almost done. Can not go inside to inspect the quality as they locked the door.

I like their landscape concept. The road curb also looks nicer compare to DNP JH which only using the normal road curb.

The down point still the same, the smell from nearby chicken farm.

When OC ready? I saw taman road
and main road is already done
Liao.

Overall the taman is nice. It is just too near to the chicken farm. You can hear the sound clearly and smell bad. I don’t think this is acceptable. The residence area must have some distance to the chicken farm. Anyone know the regulation on this? IJM good reputation maybe affect by this matter.

OC will be given anytime. The taman is fantastic. 3rd phase semi-d, i guess the price will be RM700K and above

How much is the sub sale for the 1st phase?

Yea… Any idea what is the current market price for PS?

There is no comparable completed properties for current market price comparision

you can set a benchmark by purchasing a semi-d with 700K or more

Monster :OC will be given anytime. The taman is fantastic. 3rd phase semi-d, i guess the price will be RM700K and above

The smells & hygiene will be the big problem.
You can not live with stench 24/7 in your house.
This is a basic and fundamental requirement for a comfortable home. You may have a Disneyland next door but without fresh air and closing window all the time, people will hesitate to move-in let alone pay exorbitant price.
There are many other semi-d/ new housing areas in Mainland. Options/choice aplenty.

Sep@Bm eh rang

Showroom for phase 1 closed already,sold out.

@Celine
You mean the Phase 1 showhouse sold out or Phase 1 units sold out?

Sold out? Include the unit next to chicken farm.

The unit next to chicken farm sold to chicken farm & turn to hostel for bagla.

bull_shit :
The unit next to chicken farm sold to chicken farm & turn to hostel for bagla.

Wow, bought the semi D link for bangla hostel? The owner must be as rich as Tony Stark

Why don’t you just say turn the whole taman into organic chicken farm…

Hi … Any owner here? from Santuary Garden or Santuary Villa…

@Calvin
Looking for subsale unit?

Developer still has balance units for sale la..

Phase I already sold-out (including the bumiputera lot). I got one unit (32.5 ft * 98 ft) for sale. Price at RM690K.

Phase 1 units all sold out,I visited IJM sales office yesterday and the salesman told me.@K2

OC before end of Oct – any buyer – RM690K semi-D (32.5 ft * 98 *)

$690K? You must be crazy…. I think $600K, many people already want to sell it immediately. I think it worth $600K only… Who know the latest news for the chicken farm?

my lot has been sold for RM680K – thanks to the buyer. I got another lot (30ft * 98 ft) – semi-d.Wanted to sell at RM650K. OC before end of Oct. Deposit RM20K.

I have 1 unit facing garden,far away from chicken farm,any buyer?

They can’t get the OC if the chicken farm issue. It is too near. MPSP shall not pass the plan

@TL
Is this a truth statement? If yes, where did you get this information?

This issue need to be solved! All parties need to come to the agreement to solve the issue.

The final name is Taman Santuari? Can direct translate like this?

Hi, I was at the recent MAPEX event and one of the IJM staff told me that the OC is early Nov 2014

OC delay again?hmmm
Did IJM staff explain what is the reason they keep delaying the OC?

who said the OC delay ? as long as, the OC was approved before 2 years of your sales and purchase agreement, it is not considered as delay. The earlier S&P signed is in Dec.

Any news? Are we getting the OC in November 2014?

Went to the site last two days, very bad chicken shit smell near phase 1 and chicken sound. But did not smell any near the second phase villa road side. Another problem is fly problem. If you got so many chicken farm around sure got many flies especially after the sell out of chicken. Visit there show house. The good part is IJM house design always very good for my opinion, I like their villa but not the surrounding environment. The Penang government should do sometime on this. It definitely not suitable to stay if too near to chicken farm because of hygiene problem.

Be positive..Soon or later the farm owner will give up the farm as too strict regulations to follow now.

Demand for chicken and egg so high, u eat everyday, may be the farm will expand?

Just went to the site on Monday. The design (house, play ground, jogging track) are quite impressive. I went after the rain and i didn’t smell much of the chicken smell (i walk nearby the indawater pool i suppose). the only thing i heard is the crow.

Check with Gobi and he said OC will be obtained by end of Nov 2014.
No crack found on the wall for now..Hope everything is fine when we get the key.

Yah, I like to landscape and the jogging track. The fencing gate along the main road is the plus point to the buyers.

How long the chicken farm need to be remove, 1 year, 2 years or 5 years? Only god know.

I would like to rent out my unit; semi-d link. How much is the rental around there? It will help me a lot to decide on my next course of action.

was just at PS on Sunday, looking good … OC by end of November confirmed by Gobi … can’t wait can’t wait …

What to do with the chicken farm? I think they better move else will be get complains from the residents. If follow strictly the rules, they have improve their facility. Waste water treatment, ventilation, sound proof…as long as got people complain MPSP need to take action!

@TL

The chicken farm is there before the project. Either you take it or leave it, I don’t think you can make any complaint on the chicken farm.

Hi Farmer, I know… Sometime you need to make way… If you say like that, how the good city planing go to work? Last time KL also have a lot of farm… But now all move out. Where you see big city got chicken farm?

^_^agree@TL

Mpsp follow procedure may hard to release yearly license for farmer if many resident complaints. Sure Farmers busy to do improvement if farmer insist to stay.

Just because you bought house besides chicken farm, now you want the farm to move and try to blackmail us with MPSP lah, facility lah, licensing lah, etc. I also own a house there what.
U don’t want chicken farm but still you want to enjoy your KFC lah, McD Chicken lah, Ayamas lah, BBQ chicken lah, etc, from where ? You want to supply ?
So, can the chicken farm moves to besides your old house since you’re going to move to this PS new house already ? Really felt very very TL with this kind of ppl. Well, together with my friends, we are going to increase the chickens some more unless everybody wants to become vegetarian. Is Alma and PT going to become like KL city soon ? Bad example.

Yes, farmer friend. I agree w ur friend situation. But this is development trend, resident house start to move in surrounding. Unless your friend can buy surrounding land. Everyone also need adopt to environment changed. If stay w resident, then get prepare to furfill the envilopment.

Why you still want to buy if you cannot accept your new house is surrounded with chicken farm? I thought you have prepared well to live together with the chicken farm but now you start to complain it. Instead of complaining the chicken farm, you should not buy the PS house at the first place. Think about it if you were the chicken farm owner. Will you move because of those late comers?

If I am the chicken farm owner, I move because :
1. I can get bigger farm land
2. I will expand my business
3. I will have better future
…
There are many others reason… Think !
For example: what should I do when there is SARS or other bird flu desease?

Tat is normal if farmer decide to stay coz they use to it liao for so many year. But future trend their chicken have to stay near to so many resident. Therefore? foresee they have to upgrade their facility to fulfill all d environment requirement from time to time. Tat is fact. we have respect farmer also if they insist to stay but they have to do their parts very well till every resident tutup mulut.

obtain OC. Now admin department are preparing the VP letter to sent to all purchasers. Properly start from next week can collect key by appointment.

Thx Celine. BTW, I would like to rent out my unit… mine is semi- D link, if any of you heard of anyone looking for a house to rent, appreciate if you could let me know. I can be reached at happylotz@gmail.com. Thx again

key collection scheduled for Monday….does anyone have a standard checklist for the inspection? Perhaps IJM could do everyone a favour (including themselves) and mock one up to speed up the process … or maybe they have one available to dish out on the day …

Anyone has collected their key? Any updates/comments?