Permatang Sanctuary
Spread over 100 acres of sprawling land, set amidst Permatang Tinggi, the landscape of this district will never be the same again with the development of Permatang Sanctuary, featuring “Eco Living” – Adding life, health and fun to ordinary lifestyle.
This guarded residential property development comprises 188 units 2-storey semi-detached, 488 units 2-storey link semi-detached, 10 units of bungalow and 134 units of link bungalow houses. Located within the established neighbourhood of Bukit Mertajam. It is about a 15-minute drive from Juru Auto-City and the Penang Second Link. This “Eco Living” township is conveniently accessible and linked to the North-South Highway and Penang Bridge.
Permatang Sanctuary Phase 1 consists of 78 units of double-storey semi-detacheds and 92 units of double-storey link semi-detacheds which is targeted to be launched by the end of 2011.
Related Projects:
- Sanctuary Villa
- Sanctuary Residence
- Sanctuary Ridge
- Sanctuary Row
- Sanctuary Village
- Sanctuary Terrace
Property Project : Permatang Sanctuary
Location : Permatang Tinggi, Bukit Mertajam, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Semi-Detached & Bungalow
Tenure : Freehold
Total Units : 188 (Semi-D), 488 (link Semi-D), 10 (Bungalow), 134 (link Bungalow)
Developer : IJM Land
Contact No: 04-296 1222
Indicative Price: RM 400,000 onwards
Good to have big balcony, can view what bangla doing from there ! hehe.
Visit the show house – wow, landscape beside the show house look so good. The house look very nice and very high house – some how was chase out by security guard he he
If you look like bangla, then they won’t chase you out. Hi Hi !
@AY
of course, they won’t chase me out becuase they might think that I’m one of the construction workers …
Security guard is a bangla….friend, friend. Hehe!
When is showhouse ready? End of July?
Will ready early August. Again SnP had been delayed to September. Delay~Delay~
@K2
For those who have booked a unit, any delay is not an issue at all but more of a gain. The unit that you booked is still guaranteed. Developer cannot perform any progressive billing yet. So you don’t need to pull out any cash earlier and bank no need to release any balance payment. This means you save on interest. Meanwhile, construction still in progress. See how fast they are moving without your money. Developer is financially strong. No problem for them to foot the bill first !
Developer moves fast. After SnP signed, big bill will come soon. So better get ready your bank loan quick.
I saw there are some comments on the chicken farm. Where is the exact location?
@Spain
Yes, financially IJM is very strong. That’s they already start to built the houses even though S&P not yet signed. Don’t worry, IJM will not charged you interest, if the bank loan release late. But if you don’t get the loan ready or the cash that you need to pay, then IJM will charge you interest
@SunnyWong
depending on which unit. The unit that nearest to chicken farm is about 100 feet.
Maybank offers best rate…1st yr BLR – 2.5%, 2nd & 3rd yr -2.45% and thereafter BLR -2.4%. Very flexible. Can use online pre-payment if you have excess cash. No need trouble to write in first and pay over the counter like other banks. Prepayment charges only RM20 compare with other banks charge RM50. Banks literally want you to pay slowly so they can earn more interest for the loan amount they commit to you but also want you to pay back on time (within the tenure).
@Mike
OCBC also offered better package. BLR is the same as Maybank. No prepayment charges, installment start immediately after the bank release the loan thus save a lot of interest.
Mind to tell me which row is the nearest to chicken farm? I can’t see it when I pass by
@lost
Yours must be a flexi loan….more flexible. However, I remember they have RM10 monthly charges. If you are loaded and pay back regularly with excess prepayment, then it is worth it but if not so frequent, better take the normal home loan.
@SunnyWong
Lot 134 to 143….south west corner.
Thanks AY. I think IJM is going to give some discount on those units. Going to grab 1 if really got big discount
When is the show house completed?
As i said, no existing of the chicken farm this development wil be a great 1 !! but in fact…haizzz
@Chan
It is a calculated risk, not a wish. It is not going to go away soon but time will tell.
IJM will not give discount bcos those lot already booked . . .
btw – everyone that have done the booking, they are made know by IJM that there is a chicken farm nearby. IJM do not lie to thier customer but instead IJM tell the truth ..
Even the units near to chicken farm oso being booked? The sales must be great
Yes, the IJM sale is honest. He inform the buyer that there is a chicken farm nearby. There is only left one unit on the last row. What I didn’t like is IJM had blocked all the good units to be released by later when the price increase.
Seems like i am late. Any unit left for semi-D link or semi-D other than the unit on last row? Gonna booked 1 since can 100% refund
@TL
yes, IJM blocked the good units as bumiputra lot. They will released the bumiputera lot when the house is 80% complete. By that time, IJM will increased the house by another RM20K.
@SunnyWong
yes, there some units left — book now to get RM10K discount. When the show house ready by end of July — the price will increased by RM20K and with no discount. Since 100% refundable before S&P signed — no harm to book now.
Good unit left is lot 20, 25, 36, 37, 38
Thanks lost. Do you know any unit left for Semi-D link?or no more adi?
@dave
there 6 more lots that the location is good. you can call 012 4540347 — Mr Gope. He is the salesperson of IJM.
The left over one unit on the last row is semi D. I heard is because the previous buyer can’t get the bank loan. The offer is as original price for phase 1A. The similar lot size now is at higher price.
how much semi d link PS now after discount 20k?
Going for site visit again later
Chan, please help to update the unit left. I gonna go to the office and take a look on tuesday
Found an old post from @Wood, i think this is true, not worth to buy, location not good !
Negative side on guarded only development:
1. No gated, the guard no right to block outsider to use the main and internal roads as those roads are not belong to the permatang santuary’s community, in fact the roads are belong to MPSP.
2. Smelly chicken farm nearby
3. The development not in strategic location.
4. last time is one of the flood areas, that is why developer plan for big retention pond there.
5. All landscapings will be maintained by MPSP in future, it may become mosquito – aedes’s home if MPSP not come on time to cut the bush/grass. Retention ponds might become Aedes’s home too.
6. Hard to collect money for paying the guard services, not all residents willing to pay due to no enforcement on monthly maintenace fees.
7. Traffic always congested during office hours from Juru’s main road to permatang tinggi, you can take other routes with longer distance, waste time and money.
8. Nearby old taman and shops lot filled with lot of banglas, will create security issues.
9. Semi-D with terrace’s build up only.
10. Residents can re-design their house external outlook such as repainting with the color they like, build addtional external partial of building and so on, the outlook of whole taman not neat.
11. Pet’a poof such as dog’s poof will be here and there at roads and play ground or front of house, the poof might come from the house’s dogs/cats, wild dogs/cats later on.
12.The guard house at main road or internal road can be demolished by MPSP if getting complaint from outsider or nearby residents.
13.Seem likes nearby tis development still have empty land, if it is own by other developer in future, then potential re-open the end road of this taman is higher.
@Boo
You are rather biased when you cut and paste only the negative points from someone else analysis (Refer post #78). One should also read post #79 and #182 to know there are many positive points intentionally left out. Readers, home makers and investors are making 1/2 million ringgit decision here so they will not be so easily fooled.
@Boo
you shouldn’t cut & paste negative and just post. there are good one that you left out
Went to the site, location not good, smelly with lot of flies, surrouding taman looks eyesore, lot of banglas staying at nearby taman, will sure having security issues later ! Not saying buy, no mood to reserve it too when saw it by own eye !
banglas sure causing security issues? think twice before simply say out. Chinese also causing kongsi gelap issue last time. dont simply say something bad when you have no intention to buy.
not only lot of banglas, there got lot of vietnamess too ! not a good place for stay.
@Cheah
if you cannot afford to buy or do not want to buy a house here, please don’t say something bad. Remember, without banglas or vietnamess, you don’t have what you have today. Without them, there will be no one to work as operator or to work on the job that Malaysian do not want to do …we need to show respect to them
Agreed. This place will be occupied by banglas, vietnamess & burma ppls later !
You could be standing next to a rubbish dump. Did you check ??
@hamid
@Cheah
Better you move out of Malaysia….there is no place where construction sites, factories, restaurants or homes don’t require foreign workers. They come from Indonesia, Vietnam, Burma, Cambodia and Bangladesh. See if you can live without them. The Bangla who served you your favourite plate of nasi kandar or build your house, your live-in Indonesian maid who looks after your children and house or the vietnamese who complains less than the local at work, etc. They work where the locals don’t….dirty, dangerous and mundane jobs. Do have respect for them. Don’t generalize!
@AY
That are still okay. Everyone has their life.
But would you pay around half a million ringgit and stay next to them?
Day in day out walk with them in the same neighbourhood?
Worrying about ur wife and daughter’s safety?
If you can sleep well at night, then by no means,,please proceed.
If you worry, then think twice lor….
@AY
Not to forget the hygienic issue around the chicken poultry farm and the little flies………
@hamid
You are already staying next to them. Don’t try to imagine you are not. They are everywhere, except the flies? Have you stood next to Cian Jia poultry and found that out for yourself?
I am sad you all thinking bad about foreigners. One day when you have chance go oversea for working, maybe your son or daughter. And you & your son/daughter will be “bangla” to other country too.
Please…. our life is short… and we “borrow” or “rent” this world for 60-70 years only … Dont discriminate other race of peoples and saying will cause security issue.
I am living in low cost area, together with vietnamiese, bangla and I can tell you very safe with them.
I agree they may not have concious of cleanliness, but remember Permatang Sanctuary is guarded area and new main road has been opened for us. you dont need to pass their house everyday.
To me, chicken poultry farm is the major concern as it will cause hygience, smell and flies problems. Banglas are also human and they just stayed here for their living.
location tak baik la, banyak nyamuk dan lalat, bau hapak juga ! banyak banglas di sana, takut la!
The problem is they’ll pass your house everyday ! You’ve no right to block others ppl to pass your house if your house is just in a guarded only community, do bear in mind that all the roads including your longkang and landscaping in the taman are all belong to MPSP, not belong to Permatang Santuary ! When the things are belong to MPSP, that’s mean it is belong to “Rakyat”, rakyat in behind mean “ALL PEOPLE” loh!
@Aminah
Nyamuk pula? Check your own house or neighbourhood first. Anywhere that you have stagnant water, you will have mosquitoes. Nothing to do with PS.
@Ah Lian
You cannot block but you can certainly question anyone that is suspicious looking and don’t belong to the area. That’s what a guarded community can do. One entrance and one exit into phase 1A and 1B….only 1 way to run. For anyone up to something no good, he will not want to be recognised nor does he want to be limitted to one escape route! If the thief is anything more dumb than this, he stands to be apprehended anytime. Try it !
Kami mahu berenang di rentention pond, basuh baju di sana boleh kut?
@Aminah
Jangan makan nasi kandar, nanti kena poison. Atau pergi shopping complex, nanti kena culik. Lebih baik duduk rumah tonton TV, banyak orang asing kerja di kilang tidak selamat. Aiyoh! Macam ini, mana lagi ada jiwa !
Strongly Agree!
just ask,hw many among us really don mind foreign worker surrounding our garden? for instance, look at JURU area. factory,labour,workers,pollution….any1 like it? it can said tat they bought their house thr for thousand k, but after few year the house value depreciate. no say we descreminate dem, but if have a choice, i prefer dey stay out of my way. in reality, existing of foreign worker do make ur properties looked low cost and i very mind how others judge and comment on my house,since, it cost over half a MILLION !!!!
@Bangla
Ku fikir Malaysia boleh saja. Sekarang Bangla boleh juga! Kalau berenang di retention pond, kau mesti minta kebenaran daripada MPSP. Nanti tunggu guard bawa kau pi juga.
Orang yang cakap tak kisah dengan banyak banglas di sekitar rumahnya…saya rasa mereka tu investor, mereka bukan pembeli yang nak stay di sana punya. Di sekitart project ni, bukan saja nampak banyak pekerja asing melepak di sana, i rasa bau hapak, sarang lalat and nyamuk pun banyak di tempat tu! Cuba imagine kalau tiap-tiap hari kena halau bangla, lalat dan nyamuk, tak payah buat kerja lain dah! Tiap-tiap hari kena berdepan dengan bangla, lalat dan nyamuk isu ! mana boleh kan?
@Azudin
Saya akan pergi dengan kawan-kawan saya, bukan pergi seorang diri. guard di sana pengecut bila nampak geng saya nanti, mereka mana berani tegur kami. Kalau MPSP datang, kami lari. Kami akan datang balik bila MPSP cabut !
Which development don’t require foreigners? They are here on temporary work permits. When development stops or when there is no more development, they will also be gone. Then the local criminals rise up….disguised and camouflaged like you and me! So where and when is a safe timing? It is not about PS. It about labour policy that should not be discussed here. It also happens in KL, where ever there is development. A price to pay or else live in the kampong!
Bangla won’t go, they will stay at here forever even their work permit expired. I agree on that location full of foreign workers and smelly with chics farm and flies.
@Mark
Those foreigners not only from the development. Majority of them from the factories nearby. Be ready to see them hanging out everywhere and share the facilities with you when you move in PS.
It is very hard to avoid. Even you have gated or guarded… when someone rent their house to foreigner, then you will have live together with them.
Do we have this kind of control?
If you buy the house in good location, G&G with luxurious facilities and the price of your house is expensive like over/around 600k ++ , the chances for house owner to rent out to bangla will be very low. So far i never see G&G in mainland with landed property that having facilities being rented to banga yet !.. 😉
@Lim
btw – my uncle put his 6 Vietnamese lady workers at his G&G landed house in Butterworth.
Who care ?????? No one know what you’re saying here is true or not ! i can say my uncle will plan to keep his 20 bangla workers in his PS house later !
@Lim
Don’t panic when you are in the pool with a Bangla. 500k is not far from 600k. Maybe 1m will sound more convincing before you make this remark.
We have 9 Vietnamese at work. They have better ethics and behaviour than any of our locals. Never misses a day’s work and never have to plan emergency workforce to continue the day’s task. So don’t lump everyone together. Some locals commit more heinous crime and you can’t see them!
@Chuah
You admitted it….where there is development and factories, you’ll find them. You are already sharing it, like it or not. Which place hasn’t yet used foreign labour? Only PS and no other projects?
@Delost
So PS don’t mean anything to you. If you don’t care, why do you bother to speak in this forum?
We have lost this control long time ago….when cheaper foreign labour was employed in place of choosy locals. This is not a topic for PS but for all projects. G&G, no G&G the same!
@SP
Agreed. Everything is out of control in Malaysia. I even seeing they can modify or extend their G&G house. I understand G&G is strata title that the owners are not allowed to modify or extend their house. You can see the bungalow opposite Queensbay, they extended their kicthen. And also some G&G in Alma, they modify too.
Earlier I prefer G&G, but seems it is totally same as the rest. That’s why I choose PS now.
@AY
Hahaha .. No one wants to swim in raining pond at PS. I heard about one of the Tambun Indah project, it is not gated but guarded. But the committees are very strong and good. Then even make the guarded residential far better than G&G. Your car cannot simply go in even those are MPSP land. Some visitors even have to park their car outside. I know they facilities and swimming pool kaput already because no one maintain it as it is not G&G. But their security is number 1.
Many friends visit to there and telling the same thing. I think that taman is close to tambun highway toll. correct me if I am wrong.
I hope PS will become like them also, and residents in PS must cooperative enough. Strengthen our security system in PS. Then PS will be very good place to stay and even raise the price of house. I believe this can happen even guarded hours.
I meant those foreign workers are not only from development. They will be there forever unless those nearby factories all shut down. So, why take the risk?
siapa yg kata bangla tak akan create problem, lepa tu investors la, lepa bukan nak beli PS for stay punya.kalo for stay, siapa nak rumahnya bersebelahan atau berjiran dengan bangla-bangla tu, tak masuk akal langsung ! Tempat tu banjir punya tempat, u tengok ijm cadang buat retention pond yg besar then u tau dah ! bukan aje banjir, bau busuk dari reban ayam berdekatan juga satu problem lagi ! siapa nak beli rumah tu kalo macam ni !
@Kiong
I see that potential in PS too. People who buy 500k houses should have at least a household income of above 6K, middle to upper class, much educated and civilised. More projects within PS are planned for more semi-d and bungalows that are going to be higher priced. Alma as a whole is also progressing in all aspects, in terms of infrastructure, conveniences and amenities. Some teething problems are only to be expected but those who can see beyond this will reap the harvest!
There are many contemptuous characters here who blabber against PS. So be it that they will not be part of PS with grateful thanks !
You cannot blame those who hallucinate about the possibility of rubbing shoulders with a bangla then being able to kindle cordial relationships with good educated neighbours……or looking at the retention pond as a problem instead of it as a smart solution for floods. There will always be those who will have short sightedness or specks in the eye and those with more vision. Best of all, nature sorts itself. I do strongly agree with you.
Went to the site yesterday, the nearby taman really eyesore, saw lot of bangla hanging around the nearby taman/shop, the worst thing is lot of of flies there ! i hate flies and feel not safety since PS is not in GnG ! sigh..ijm should build GnG there !
This could be 1 of the unsuccessful projects in Alma
Totally agree!
@coral
PS is a well planned and well received garden project, surrounded by 7 ft walls and cleverly guarded to discourage strange characters. It will be inhabitated by cultured, educated families of reasonable wealth who does understand the importance of hygiene and will naturally keep the place clean/neat and habitable. So clean that the flies find it uninhabitable ! The gardens will be pleasant and refreshing. They would probably visit Tesco/Jusco or the more upscale shops rather than carelessly roam the streets. What a paradise !
We need to make smart choices with a balanced mindset. Let not something trivial trouble a good thing. PS has many advantages but sometimes the mind exagerates the negative. Some bad things said about PS just does not hold substance….just hell bent to discredit it for the sake of doing it. Like generalising everything without actually being there to justify it.
Wow! That place eventually will become flies, mosquito and bangla home, you still can call it paradise? hehe
wa setuju dengan kau punya comment lah !
@Ah Jin
Same old long winded tales again. Refer previous posts.
http://malaysiaretailnews.blogspot.sg/2012/07/landmark-residence-primed-for.html
For the upcoming The Star Pro-perty Fair 2012, she said the company would give free iPads to customers, who confirm purchases of selected property.
This is in addition to their Semi Furnished packages, and Easy Entry Scheme with special rebates, free legal fees on SPA and loan, and 0% interest during construction.
IJM would give free iPads to customers, who confirm purchases of selected property of Permatang Sanctuary in upcoming The Star Pro-perty Fair 2012. This is in addition to their Semi Furnished packages, and Easy Entry Scheme with special rebates, free legal fees on SPA and loan, and 0% interest during construction.
Wah ! so good? Developer will only give some “incentive” to buyer when their house not in a strategic location and hard to sell out, this is one of the marketing strategies to attract buyer whentheir sell is not good. This PS really not a good buy !
IPAD? don1 la,nt even a 2k thing. rebate 15% mayb still got ppl wil reconsider it. 1 ipad need to bond me 30 years?no way !!!
Some more 0% interest during construction
0% interest during construction only give you ‘SYIOK’ 2 years nia. After that still kena bond 30 years. TAK NAK !!!
Some more Semi Furnished packages
Don’t listen to all these guys Tora & Ah Jin telling lies on the internet. The package they mentioned not offered to Permatang Sanctuary, only to other Penang projects by IJM Land. Just the standard free SNP and Loan legal fees with 10K discount is applicable. So Tora and Ah Jin can continue to wait and pray hard for the freebies. Others now laughing at you.
You may check with IJM Land on the promotion
what so called semi-furnish?1 carpet and 1 standing fan? should have und. wat dey include in the furnish package jz to decide. btw, if ppl realy like d place, no ned so much pattern also wil hv buyers. if like, IJM gv anything oso happy. If not, IJM not gv anything oso bo rasa
The facts came from Gobe (IJM Land) 012-4540347.We check the facts before we talk.
I choose PS is because IJM developer and their brand. If you think IJM is trying to cheat you all, I don’t know who else can satisfy you. Please dont disturb here if you are not interested to buy PS.
One of the main reason is the the landscape. I believe they going to develop a good and comfortable landscape for us. This is guarded only but they already go for cable underground already. The quality is most important, and they used red brick to build as well. I was so excited when I saw they build the show house with red brick
The semi-D without the cable pole and wiring are really cool. I can imaging it :). Not many developer will put cable underground. I check the Tambun Indah and only G&G they do half only, for Bungalow and Semi-D only.. So I trust IJM.
One more thing, where you can find the developer can provide full refund if you cancel the booking? So far IJM can do it. They dont care if you want to cancel or go. They know their values.
@Kiong
I trust IJM but I not trust the PS’s location !
I totaly agree. The one JJ just replied you is an immitation!
@Kiong
What so special about underground cable. Bayu Mutiara double storey terrace also put cable underground la. Hahaha..The environment is good but i can imaging how good the environment will be when a lot of foreigners lepak over there since it’s only guarded but not gadted.
@Kiong
Agreed. We trust what we see, we believe what we experience. We also discern and make responsible comments that don’t misled others.
Many fail to see how guarded concept works. The one entrance one exit concept into each phase really complements the guarded entrance and exit. Guards paid by residents are authorized to question anyone trying to lepak within the gardens. These guards can actually recognise owners and are constantly patrolling the place. Guards also mark any strangers or unknown vehicles that enter and trail them. It is a psychological warfare and it works all the time. For any stranger with ulterior motives, why choose a garden with someone on your trail or is watching you?? Common sense says….go target something easier !
@SP
cakap senang la, when berdepan dengan actual maintenance nanti, lu tau rasanya la, bukan senang nak kawal bangla bangla tu ! setahu aku, PS ada 7 phases, satu phase satu guard house kah? kalo satu guard house utk 7 phases, habis lah! u ingat senang jaga kalo just guarded only ! bukan senang lo, cakap memang senang lah!
kalo banyak resident PS tak mau bagi guard fees nanti, macam mana? i pun tak mau bagi kalo resident lain tak bagi guard fees, aku tengok u boleh buat apa dengan aku nanti ! hahaha.
@Kumar
For your kind of attitude, no one needs you around in any taman! Some weird things may just happen to your property. Hi hi!
G&G or guarded only….what is the difference? PS or not PS, what is the difference? Still have this Kumar hanging around that behave like a bangla.
@Kim
Not the fault of the security system, neither the fault of the taman. Sometimes you will find less cultured people in your midst….but they can always be dealt with. The unwritten law will catch up on them. The advantages we have seen so far are more overwhelming.
If this is true, I am going to claim the iPad. Can change to galaxy or not? Gilakah already sold so many units still give addition discount.
@Ah Jin
btw — there are many developers are giving out iPad and handphone (ivory, spsetia and etc ) …
even the road in the taman belong to MPSP, we also can built our own guard house. Go take a look at Desa Palma — 5 years ago, no security guard, now got security guard and the guard is paid by the taman people. Some paid but some don’t want to paid. still OK because as long as the collection can cover the guard expenses, the guard will do their duty. Yesterday, the taman guard post is ready and they put up 3 guardpost at 3 entrances. The resident there only paid RM30 per month and the guardpost was put up with the approval from MPSP. If you don’t believe me, please drive to Desa Palma and have look see look see there …
If you dont want to pay guarded fees, please dont buy PS. Not sure if we have any law that can stop this from happening. Once you buy guarded house, you must pay for that.
Do you think this Sem-D link is expensive? 450k++ with 20 x 48 build up?
Some1 jz can simply buy but don pay for it. Wat can we do? We dint own d community. If some buy for investment I think they wont even care. If reasonable charge for d guard apply I willing to pay as long as no ppl come my garden kacau and prevent some eyesaw ppl coming in ‘visit’
As long as you can get 51% agreement from the community and approval from the authorities, you can set up guard post and drop bars. Regulation does not allow obstruction to traffic in a guarded community but the authorities are OK with drop bars after midnight to 6 in the morning. Most house break-in happens in the wee hours of the morning. For those petty thefts during the day, you need to rely on the agility and alertness of your security guards. So hiring trained security guards under good management control is key to success of the security system. There are currently no laws governing collection for contribution to security in a guarded community…..just a moral code of conduct expected from the community who values the peace and security of the taman.
The success of the security system also depends on the RA (Resident’s Association) who plays an active part in management control. The aspirations of the community are driven through their voices. I have a friend who stays in Desa Palma, so it is true. However, all this does not mean perfect security. Even G&G also has break-ins, burglaries and disturbances from time to time.
In G&G, when you rent out to people with low morals, they can also bring in their gang and disturb the peace. Worst part, they have access card to get in and no one suspect them. In the final analysis, there is no 100% security.
Agreed. No need G&G. Be part of the guarded community and pay minimal cost of security with deterrent factor. Play active part in RA, be part of the management team even if on part-time basis. Ensure get good security guards are hired. Let other management of the gardens….sampah collection, grass cutting, etc be the responsibility of MPSP. Let RA focus on security, which is what is close to everyone’s heart in their own community.
http://s1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/bkcheah75/Permatang%20Sanctuary/
Here I uploaded the finished build show house. Can you all see that? The build up not big :(..
but the external compound is big enough to take in fresh air.
@Kiong
Once I enquired at BM Utama, a double storey terrace facing a mini garden. The price is 475k. For the price you pay in PS for a semi-D link, it is a good deal. Not forgetting….free legal fees on SnP and housing loan and 10K discount. This package easily worth 20k.
@AY
Actually we get into the house and found the room not really big. Because we have visited to Desa Permai (Asas Dunia) too. So when I compare, this is considered small. Wer have no idea to decorate it at the moment because it is really small.
Thanks for your advice.
But you have a good point. I will wait for show house completely renovated and take a look. Hope everything will be fine.
@Kiong
Yes, it is a bit small especially the master room and 2nd room. If you compare to a semi-D, you will be disappointed. Other semi-Ds are normally 22ft wide. If you compare as a terrace which are normally 20ft wide, then it is OK. You have to look at a semi-D link like a double storey terrace corner (with some land) to get a better comparison.
I just came back from the STAR property fair. PS for non-bumiputera lot left ONLY 4 units. 2 facing the road and 2 location is not bad.
Which plot left?
@lost
Really? Unbelievable. Few weeks ago I visited to their sales office and still found 60% of phase 2 still not booked during that time.
@PS
Lot 22,23, 25 & 26 and a few units have been reserved and the buyer need to pay deposit by tomorrow — you can go to Gurney tomorrow to have a lot. Most of the bumiputera still available. If I’m not mistaken, only 3 out of the 43 bumiputera are taken up.
Any more Semi-D link?
@SunnyWong
Semi-D link – non-bumiputera lot no more. I think you can register and when the bumiputera lot is release (after 80% completion), IJM able to contact you.
Lesson learnt…. Wait and see you got nothing… Now you still have semiD, although the size a bit smaller. Later you got only terrace with the same amount of money.
@TL
IJM launching next phase bungalow from RM665K in PS. Pricing is OK considering BM Utama semi-D already 600k.
@KEV
Link bungalow or bungalow ? if bungalow at RM655K — the price is very good. what is the lot size and built up area ?
I just called Ijm. They said the bungalow will only launch next yr.. Anyone of u here book unit 37?
i heard tat phase 1 95% own by chinese, d others is indian. no malay booked until now rite?
@Chan
lot 41 & 83 booked Malay. Too expensive not many Malay can afford.
Semi d must b at least built up 24 x 45 and 10 feet side land.
Just visited their sales office. Showhouse ready by end of this month, next month to sign SnP. Only 1 unit non-bumi double storey semi-d link left. Nice plot but huge land, price about 600k. Some of the larger plots on the south west corner next to chicken farm are still available. According to IJM, the chicken houses are enclosed in air-cond and no smell. There is still 1 row of semi-D closer to the showhouse still available, roughly 590k onwards. I think these are still worth considering.
Lost, are you IJM land staff?You know the project so well.
@SunnyWong
No, I am not IJM staff. I did snap a photo of the picture. So, I know which lot is available and which lot is not available. went to site on Sunday, I think 2nd phase location seem to be better location. 2nd phase is at higher land ..
Not a good location, with lot bangla stayed at nearby taman and also lot of flies from nearby chicken farm, not GnG too, not worth to go !!
The chicken farm and bangla issues are threats to PS development. They are like the time bomb to half million properties. Even later when u move in then cannot tahan, you are not going to find anyone to buy ur house. Not a good choice for subsale
See! these peoples making unnecessary noise coming back again. Again and again, please leave this forum if you have no intention to buy PS. All of us aware of bangla, chicken farm, and also indah water poop pool. thanks for highlight but dont criticize, if you got money please go to buy island build your own house there. You will get rid of all the problems you mentioned..
We welcome constructive idea but not useless criticizes.
No matter what house you buy also got the risks, you can spend millions to buy Batu Ferringgi house and you may have landslide problem. You buy Gurney house you may need to face Tsunami. So dont blah blah blah …. please accept that the life is short and nothing is permanent.
Bangla is not alien that can come out at night and kill you, chicken will not turn to tiger and bite you.
Kiong,you are rich and you wont know the situation of poor ppl. We are using our hard earn money to buy a house for own stay and we are not allowed to make mistake. There is no 2nd chance for us to buy another house if PS has many safety, hygiene or health issue. Therefore, we have to point out the bad thing to trade-off with the good point of PS. No doubt IJM is a good developer but this is their 1st time to build at Alma area. To be honest, the location is no good with surrounding leftover empty housing areas which are rented to the bangla and not to mention the nearby chicken farm which is in radius of 500m.
@Chickenfarm
IJM maybe new in Alma but not new on the mainland. You have to judge based on their track records, not where they are going to build. Health or hygiene issue of chicken farm is also overblown, as if people around the chicken farm are all going to the clinics to seek treatment. The neighbourhood don’t have any issue, why all of a sudden it become big issue? Banglas….even the good supermarkets are filled with them. You can’t avoid them.
@Chickenfarm
If I am rich, I will not consider to buy this house because it is much cheaper compare to island property. I understand everyone has worry about this and that. But really you cannot do anything because sometimes is matter of luck. 10 years ago, many peoples said Batu Maung 200k++ houses cannot buy because too far, ulu, dirty, village. But now you can see the price is 900k or 1 million now. So it is very hard to say good or bad. We will never know what will happen but sometimes we just have to rely on developers because we know the developer IJM has very strong profile and they will not blindly build house in the bad area and create bad image for themselves. If IJM wants to cheat us, we have no choice too.
I can tell you Tesco is there, Jusco will be setup there also, I do notice they start widening the main road and even build the flyover bridge at permatang tinggi junction. all the shop lots occupied by bangla soon will be re-renovate. That is the place they will start develop as commercial area. Well, this is just my thoughts and I hope this will happen.
Also, from 2nd link to Penang bridge also not quite far. You can reach there within 15mins.
The Guarded will put you at more safer, the outsider will not easily come in when they know the area is guarded.
As many explained, chicken farm and Indah water pool is indoor and closed up. So no smell.
My worry is they build very big steel factory opposite of PS that will really make jialat.
@lost
That is close. Will there a “fly” issue?
From Simpang Empat to B. Kawan is 14 km. and crossing the bridge is
24 km. it’s a distance to travel.It also involves bridge toll and cost of
petrol.
@LS
yup, 38km ~ can consider use the 1st penang 1st- link of bridge lor.
You will like 2nd Link very much
when you know the 1st link jammed. Believe me. I travel everyday. You even dont mind if it is 50 or 60 km.
It is good especially those stay at Simpang Empat and worked at Bayan Lepas.
Too many good things happen in Alma. This area going to better… the price of the house sure appreciate. The bad points can be eventually solved.
For me, not seeing many good things happen in Alma but the price is increasing drastically.
@SunnyWong
Price is based on demand. Price reflects the final result after weighing both the good and the bad. Price reflects the sum of all put together. Your judgement versus all who have judged and bought. You decide.
IJM cannot prevent flies, bangla, bad air and flood issues la, what they can do is try to make their compound looks nice such as putting the wall up so that PS is isolated with nearby eyesore taman ! Surrounding issues are out of their control liao!
Those issue will still exist even separated with 7ft wall !
Agree.No eye see ma.haha
@SunnyWong
Maybe u’re not Penangites.. That why you can’t judge what is happening in Alma.
I grew up in BM. I also ask why Alma. There are lots of good location. Somehow good things keep happening in Alma recently. Road widening, shopping malls, school expansion, nice housing project… Maybe feng shui is good.
Few years back, when I visited to Alma, it just a single lane road and all is jungle. I think the reason it get developed so fast is because it was totally empty and easier to develop without compensate the existing residents. And also it close the Simpang empat, and that is the area close to 2nd link of bridge. Furthermore, The auto-city contribute a lot on that.
The Jalan Rozhan is totally disconnected to Industrial area and good to develop as residential area. Compare to main road, Jalan Permatang Tinggi (Old highway to Ipoh), you can see everyday got many many trucks and lorries pass by and that make you very uncomfortable and some more close to Bukit Minyak Industrial area.
I think that is the reason why Jln Rozhan and Alma can get developed very fast.
Agree. Not a good location !
@Kiong
That’s a really a good point that you saw why Alma is different from other development. BM is one of the focus within Penang mainland’s local plan and best part is Alma is central to BM. Development is infectious. Once it gets started, it attracts others. That’s why giant supermarkets/hypermarkets like Tesco and Jusco is coming. Where there is honey, there are bees. The naysayers can say what they want but the crowd is still coming. The facts reveal the truth.
Show house ready?
@AJ
Are you sure the crowd is coming? Who said Alma is at central of BM? I drive to Alma before, it take long drive from island to arrive Alma. If you’re talking on the area of central Alma, more precise should be BM town not Alma, that’s why nowaday the land near Song Ban Kheng road which near to Jit Sin school more valuable due to area there more near to Penang Bridge compare to Alma.
The crowd will run away if they go and see the PS site, especially the “eyesore” old taman nearby it !
Is this project good for own stay?
@ASL
Buy in Island then. With 5-10million ringgit I can guarantee you will own a nice eye looking taman.
if ‘eyesore’ go buy at Penang island – see wheather with the price offered by IJM at PS, you can buy similar landed house at Glugor, Sungai Ara, Georgetown, Jelutong or not. If can let me know, I will go buy one
Lost, is show house ready?
@SunnyWong </
show house not ready yet. I went to the saw house last Sunday and saw the contractor busy putting up cabinet. Semi-D link is quite small but Semi-D is ok and worth the price. The chicken farm is just behind the show house. That day no smell maybe is not raining and no strong wind (damn hot). But I think the 2nd phase location is much better than 1st phase. 2nd phase is only bungalow lot and most of them are bungalow link with a only a few lots is bungalow.
The build up of Semi-D link is a little bit small. Gonna make decision after seeing the show house. For sure Phase 2 location is better but i have no budget for bungalow house. haha
have you book any unit? if no, you book 1st and decide later. the booking fee RM10K is 100% refundable (before S&P sign). the sales person there said during the launching in house price will go up by RM20K and after 80% complete, bumi lot will release with price increased of RM50K.
Next week, IJM office will move next to the show house. Maybe you can ask the sales person there to open the show house for you or if you are free, you can drive there. Maybe someone is working inside there, then you can go in and have a look
@lost
No different if book now or book afterward. Flies, bangla and flood issues still exists in PS ! Same as BM highland, not a good buy too !
Agreed with this commenter on PS !
Agree.but I Kia su, so I booked unit as no harm
Just book a unit (semi d link house) today.
there are pros n cons..just depend whether you want to take risk or not.
Anyhow, due to the current trend of the property price..no choice but get myself a unit nearby alma. (of coz consider 2nd link and jusco).
If really not satisfy by end of the day, no farm to sell it..of coz, we need a buyer
chicken farm..if IJM successfully launch phase 2,3 n etc..i think i might be a high chance that we will stay in PS without the chicken farm…even Lee Rubber also need to move out..chicken farm may stand better chance~
Btw, heard from the salesperson that there are still a number of chicken farm nearby(somewhere around phase 2 n 3).
Which plot u have booked?
@SunnyWong
91
Lee Rubber took 35 years to move out, by the time the chicken farm moved out, you not in this world anymore
@Judge Bao
haha..probably.
So, just take a risk.
Afterall, let’s pray that we will get rid of it. 😀
Still got which plot available for semi-D link?
146, 147, 148,151, 90.
The rest is bumi lot which will only be release after 80% of completion. You may take a risk to wait for bumi lot as the place reserve is kinda good.
But i not sure whats the price when they release it.
All these units no good as too near to chicken farm. Will wait for the bumi lot then. Thanks
@newbie
If PS very successful, then IJM may consider buy up land occupied by chicken farm to expand its land bank. If PS not so successful and chicken farm a threat to success of IJM, then IJM will make strategic move to buy up chicken farm. Either way, chicken farm got to go some day.
Personally approached the chicken farm owner, he said he will never sell the chicken farm as he has invest alot recently and will only sell if IJM can offer attractive bargain to him. Low chance for chicken farm to move out at this moment. Just accept the chicken smell if you really want to buy PS project. Wat concerns me more is the surrounding as many leftover shoplots rented to banglas
@BatMan
Yup, this is true.
That is one of the concern…
For those who bought PS, only can hope IJM will try their best to complete phase 2 n 3.
As long as we got a good n strong neighbourhood (phase 2 n 3), i guess the chicken farm and the empty shop lot might be occupied with smthing else.
@Judge Bao
I leave near Lee Rubber at BM (Near Sin Ya school). The factory move out after 6 years due to many peoples and school complaints. Rubber smell is worst that chicken farm smell. I stayed at this taman for 10 years
Lost, did u book 1 for PS? Need ur advice as u are the local. I plan to wait for bumi lot as the location of leftover unit is not good. Too near to chicken farm.
You are right, the left over non-bumiputera lot is not at good location. Yes, I book one unit – semi-d. very nice lot no. Measurement is 32.5 * 96. Chicken farm can be nuisance to those who cannot get used to it but I don’t really bother because I grew up in kampung and my parents also rear chicken. Smell and flies is norm to me. But I believe the chicken farm will be gone one day because that chicken farm is belong to my sister – sister-in-law family. They had plan to sell the land just that their price is a bit high. IJM had approached them before. Since none of the children works in the chicken farm, once her in-laws passed away or old, sure the children will let go the land. Their in-laws is almost 70 years old. The location is not bad and the price is also reasonable compare to DNP, Asas Dunia, Aroma developer. So, no harm to buy. I’m buying for the future of my children. My children is almost 20 years and for them buy a house in the future will be almost impossible unless their salary is very very high.
@lost never bother of chicken farm, bangla issue and so on, cause he is investor ! Now he sounds like ijm staff !
@nono
Yes, I’m investor. I invest for children ..
Until this stage, it can’t denine chicken farm, Bangla and smell has Ade become a real fact. So wat I expect show house would grab my interest. Although d determination to buy very less, but my 10k stil thr.by nw possibility to buy jz 10%. Yet I noe room very small tats I hate
The reality: The house price of Permatang Sanctuary is low. Give and Take lor. There are room for the house price to increase. what a good father Mr. Lost. Right move…
I went to there take a look the show house from outside. Well this time, it changed my mind. Although the house is a bit small but really suitable for small medium family and easy to manage. Bare in mind this is semi-D and you have window for every room. So should be no problem with air circulation. Furthermore, if you plan to setup air-con, the room is not too big and your room can be easily get cold as you need.
We checked the quality of the material, including bath room, power points, all is very nice and dont think other developers in mainland can compare to IJM. Of course, I hope our house will have same quality as what we found in show house.
Regarding banglas, chicken farm, Indah Water… blah blah blah … Only those haven’t book will criticize so other will not get it as well since they couldnt get it. My advice to everyone: You can wait… and wait… No matter how bad it is, sure will have some one come and buy. At the end you will not get it because you believe those culprit saying something bad just because they couldnt get it.
There are so many like me (barely affordable only) prefer to buy house with cheaper price when under development. When it get built completed with nice show house, rich man will come and sapu all. That time, you want to pay 500k or 600k also cannot get semi-d link.
Think twice before listen to those culprits.
Good to called it as semi d, or jz can say terrace end lot mayb stil nt achieve.nt to say cheap as house price has been goreng til so high.500k for a house, if personal salary above 6k mayb stil can say affort a bit.but stil, I’m one of d buyer so got to right to voice my opinion
Once all the projects in alma fill up by people, It will become a good township with schools and shops. Easy access to 2nd link and Penang science park.
I agree with all the bad points listed by few blogger at below, it is covered almost all the bad points for guarded only project including PS !
Negative side on guarded only development:
1. No gated, the guard no right to block outsider to use the main and internal roads as those roads are not belong to the permatang santuary’s community, in fact the roads are belong to MPSP.
2. Smelly chicken farm nearby
3. The development not in strategic location.
4. last time is one of the flood areas, that is why developer plan for big retention pond there.
5. All landscapings will be maintained by MPSP in future, it may become mosquito – aedes’s home if MPSP not come on time to cut the bush/grass. Retention ponds might become Aedes’s home too.
6. Hard to collect money for paying the guard services, not all residents willing to pay due to no enforcement on monthly maintenace fees.
7. Traffic always congested during office hours from Juru’s main road to permatang tinggi, you can take other routes with longer distance, waste time and money.
8. Nearby old taman and shops lot filled with lot of banglas, will create security issues.
9. Semi-D with terrace’s build up only.
10. Residents can re-design their house external outlook such as repainting with the color they like, build addtional external partial of building and so on, the outlook of whole taman not neat.
11. Pet’a poof such as dog’s poof will be here and there at roads and play ground or front of house, the poof might come from the house’s dogs/cats, wild dogs/cats later on.
12.The guard house at main road or internal road can be demolished by MPSP if getting complaint from outsider or nearby residents.
13.Seem likes nearby tis development still have empty land, if it is own by other developer in future, then potential re-open the end road of this taman is higher.
Any good points of PS? Looks like many cons of this project
@Koo
Koo, Are you the one waiting for someone drop it from booking so you can grab it immediately?
@Kiong
Just telling the facts here ! PS got lot of bad points to consider, no need to wait ppl drop it as it is not a good buy! I guess the crowd will away from PS after seeing the actual show house later!
@Koo
The show house without the fittings already look great. If the furniture and fittings are complete, it will look even more appealing. What makes you think the crowd will run away? You mean banglas will sleep on the bed, houseflies will perch on the sofa or the chicken will lay eggs on the garden?? Be realistic. If you are talking about the environment, they don’t need to wait until show house is ready! They would have decided.