@K2
100 acres to clear i think should hv to wait for 5-10 years….i jz booked but nt yet decided to buy yet.so hope d show house can be furnish and i’ll hv my decision…if nt, hv to go for others project as well…

To complete all the phase need 10 yrs. After 3-5 yrs i tink thy ady flatten all the forest for another phase d. Btw,ppl will normally hav bad speculation b4 c the ahow hse. All project also is like this. Til the show hse hav in front the eyes d thy will rush to grab any unit. By tat time ady left limited unit n higher price d. So far its the most nice concept n well plan project in Alma compare to the same status project I tink.

Jz went to site after rainy day. 2 show house almost done jz left finishing.they add plant d turfing and stone walls fencing is great. Yet, new road is open as promised jz nt yet premix. To emphasis, the smell is nt tat serious for now but stil the flies issue cont exist. They hv to improve sewerage sys as I observe the drainage water is floating out to the road.quite serious I think.btw,hope they can finish the show house soon

All the fuzz about chicken farm! Let me tell you….they don’t last. Housing development is so lucrative that there soon will be no chicken business viable in the area soon.

2-3 years later, Jusco alma completed, sjk c pematang tinggi expanded, 2nd bridge completed, jit sin sps completed, more factories in Penang Science park, Batu Kawan SME village started, double track railway running, road to machang bubuk ready…the apartment is sell at 400k, the semiD is 600k, bungalow is 1kk … Damn rich become richer…

When is the launching ? Already nearly sold out! Still want to launch?

any idea when s&p sign?hw d show house progress now?

@TL

What do you mean?

I wonder why they still want to launch the project. The available units already nearly sold off. They could save the budget to improve the house.

@TL

Jz because of the tradition I guess… Lol..

Just visited the site. Very noisy

The site is very very near to chicken farm

@dave

That is chicken poultry… Nt farm. Different thing.

Pls dont buy, althouse the air is no smell, but there are too may germ/virus/bacteria which floating around and cos harmful to our health. Sorry, i will not buy here.

K2 :
@dave
That is chicken poultry… Nt farm. Different thing.

Any difference between poultry and farm? I thought both of them will have smell and flies problem? I have fren who bought a house near to chicken farm at jawi area. Totally cannot tahan the smell and there are alot of files

C Ronalda :
Pls dont buy, althouse the air is no smell, but there are too may germ/virus/bacteria which floating around and cos harmful to our health. Sorry, i will not buy here.

Your point is taken. Especially those bird flu or H1N1

@Chan, which unit you have bought?

How much selling price now? Very quiet about this project compare to tannin indah everyday advertising and every weekend roadshow. Very aggressive tactic which goreng the price very high now

@dave
I believe K2 means chicken processing plant and not a chicken farm. It is the chicken wastes that create the smell and attract the flies. Chicken farm wastes are the droppings and processing plant wastes from unwanted parts after the slaughter. The former is the one that creates all the smell and attracts the flies, the latter depends on how the wastes are disposed. An ethical processing plant owner will dispose these waste hygienically.

When I see too much advertisement from developers, especially those come out in the paper big big almost everyday, I better get worried if I already booked the project.
It mean only one thing – the project tak laku.
Look at Vertiq, look at Icon City, look at Sierra Residence….. Any advertisement big big in the paper after launching ?
Yes, Icon City big big tn the paper, but that is to tell you they have sold out all unit.

Both plant or farm still stink isn’t it ? And they are equally disgusting.

For me,it is no difference whether it is processing plant or chicken farm.. They will need the chickens to be there. And somemore, slaugthering process should cause more noise and you will have to listen to the chicken crying sound everyday and night

@BM skeptical
Tambun Indah advertise aggressively in papers & roadsides, and their sales are very laku. It not only helps to sell, but also create brand awareness esp for their future projects. May be subscribe to the ads column for whole year is much worth it. Maxis, milo, banks also have ads everywhere.

If you check up Google Maps, “chicken farm in Bukit Mertajam”, you will see 8 listed. So, BM may not be your place of abode. Better look somewhere else!

Why can’t human and chicken or pig stay together in same neighborhood after all we r 1 Malaysia for everything hehe

@Crazy dog

we are willing to stay together, but only when they go through our stomuch. LOL
very obvious, the main issue stil the chicken pountry. if it doesnt exist, buyers shouldnt hv any difficulty to decide. i hv a house near smpg ampat, whr chicken farm 1km far away. but most hate when hving dishes, the flies is evywhr. more den 5 flies is really annoying. try imagin when u put ur plate, the flies step by straight forward.

Wait for 50yrs then the chicken farm will moved away one day just like paya terubong rubber factory smell finally closed down after 50 years of complaints. Invest for ur grandchildren lo

Mike :
@dave
I believe K2 means chicken processing plant and not a chicken farm. It is the chicken wastes that create the smell and attract the flies. Chicken farm wastes are the droppings and processing plant wastes from unwanted parts after the slaughter. The former is the one that creates all the smell and attracts the flies, the latter depends on how the wastes are disposed. An ethical processing plant owner will dispose these waste hygienically.

That was a great explaination for those dont know what is chicken poultry n farm.

@David

Look like you have change from smelly farm issues to noisy poultry issues. Haha… How do you know the environment of chicken poultry so well? Is that mean u’re staying near to chicken poultry nw since u had so experience. Lol…

I don’t know about you guys, but I prefer my neighbours to be human rather than chicken. The only time me and my wife want to deal with chicken is after they have been cooked.

K2 :

Mike :@dave I believe K2 means chicken processing plant and not a chicken farm. It is the chicken wastes that create the smell and attract the flies. Chicken farm wastes are the droppings and processing plant wastes from unwanted parts after the slaughter. The former is the one that creates all the smell and attracts the flies, the latter depends on how the wastes are disposed. An ethical processing plant owner will dispose these waste hygienically.

That was a great explaination for those dont know what is chicken poultry n farm.
@David
Look like you have change from smelly farm issues to noisy poultry issues. Haha… How do you know the environment of chicken poultry so well? Is that mean u’re staying near to chicken poultry nw since u had so experience. Lol…

I have no experience with the chicken poultry but i have lots of experience with the chicken farm. Everytime I passed by,not even close to the chicken farm. I can smell the bad odour. To be honest, both poultry and farm have insignificant difference only. Germs, smell, noise and flies issue wont go away even though they packaged the poultry to the high end, powerful, ultra hygiene poultry. To me, it is the same. Lets see how many drops the unit after seeing how close is the poultry to the site. I bet developer is going to pour tonnes of chemicals at showhouse area to get away from the flies and smell during official launch

Haha… You do have a lot of creative ideas my friend. Anyway.. If you feel its not suit you. Just ignore this project and buy in another place that have less flies or smell. Such as condo or apartment which is hanging few hundred feet on air far away from noise,smell and pollution. Lets other people go buy this project only.

It is quite likely that there would be an increase in the unit selling price upon launching some time in July….latest news from the developer. The selling price is reasonable compared to other projects in the vicinity. The pscychology of the mind is simple. If you have already booked a unit, you will not let it go without a “discount”. So you keep it, hoping it will appreciate further. For those who have not got one yet, the demand appears intact as all the good units have been taken up. So, these newcomers “grab” what is left, particularly if they are impressed by the show unit. So very soon, all will be taken up, chicken or no chicken!!

mike :It is quite likely that there would be an increase in the unit selling price upon launching some time in July….latest news from the developer. The selling price is reasonable compared to other projects in the vicinity. The pscychology of the mind is simple. If you have already booked a unit, you will not let it go without a “discount”. So you keep it, hoping it will appreciate further. For those who have not got one yet, the demand appears intact as all the good units have been taken up. So, these newcomers “grab” what is left, particularly if they are impressed by the show unit. So very soon, all will be taken up, chicken or no chicken!!

Haha Mike,did you grab 1?

Have IJM confirm the launching date?

The house price will certainly increase. There will be Phase 2, 3, 4…
In addition, state government had imposed the new laws for land conversion and low cost house. This will increase the cost for a developer to build a normal house. All the subsidies, will go into low cost house.

Do you think who is going to absorb the cost?

I didn’t exactly grab one as there were plenty of choices in March. Now anyone looking for a better and less pricy unit will have to “grab” one before the leftovers get more higher priced. There is no risk. Psychology is still at work. That’s why developer allow you to place 10K for booking and fully refundable if you don’t like it during launching. If developer don’t raise the selling price during launching, they can also remove the discount. Looking at it positively, it’s a win-win for seller and buyer. Anyway, I would definitely keep it as I really like the concept of this project. I am also hoping that developer will one day buy up the land where the chickens are. It is not a remote likelihood if the project is successful. They have bungalows and more semi-d at stake for future phases.

@mike

Agree with what you said… Nothing to lose actually since thy can return the booking fee later on nt satisfied with the show house. Btw, with such a big project and coming is Bungalows they will certainly will nt risk it for a bad environment. Btw, IJM stil need to sustain their reputation. I got confident with them and I like the concept of this project. Compare to those new growing developer its kinda risky since they are still in learning process.

@K2
You are right. At this time when properties have been chased to such dizzying heights, usually only the strongest developers will survive any downturn. The rest can turn into “abandoned projects”. Historically there are lessons learnt, but some still don’t realize this risk factor of dumping their hard earned money with “growing” developers. Still jump in where the devils rush in….because everything is so hot!

One is hit the height, the only way to go is down. Simple theory and people are blind to see, greedy to think, hard to resist end up burnt the fingers lo

Ya lo. IJM big enough and no need to die and will not abandon any project which is currently owned by them. Do you believe it? Don’t forget IJM has a lot of projects on hand. Very hard to say now

if those house buy for own stay, no point saying how the market will influent ur determination. as long as u like, how exp oso wil go for it.

@Chuah
There were 26 abandoned projects according to statistics in the last property rush in Penang. Majestic Heights was one of them! So far, IJM has no history of abandoned projects in Penang, instead a project in Puchong was revived by them. So IJM was a white knight before. PS is a prime property project. Their stake is too big to lose. When you put your bets, you must know who you are betting on. Definitely not with developers out to make quick big bucks during this property rush.

That is the reason why they have to do it right. Only the best project will win the heart of the customer among so many competitor. Especially like PS this project as it will be consider as the cover for this project to be judge by buyers. They will hardly have abandoned project due to their strong and large financial ground. Even with 1-2 project fail, with the advantages of many project going on they will still earn enough to cover the small loses in another project. Will other smaller or growing developer will have that advantages? Did they have enough experience compare to IJM which already face or struggle with all this difficulties long ago?

No abandoned project for sure, if response no good IJM can just delay the launching phase 2,3 to 20 years later lo. Just like bandar tasek mutiara next door, the commercial plan did not take off after all the houses were built after 10 years change hand to Tambun indah for another 10 years development plan on same ground

There is a chicken farm nearby.
Future health problems related to smell, bacteria, flies, any comment?

@Boh Kia
pls refer to previous post for the comment….

@Crazy dog
That’s fair…then get our refund back and scout for another one. No risk !

recent annoucement by government on min salary of RM900/= .. so, i guess when lauching or their next phase, the price will go up by at least RM50K. So, those who have book, fatt tat liao, if you buy for investment !!!

Malaysia house price still have a lot of room to increase… If you don’t buy now, pok kai liao…

It can go up for 400k for sale, but where is the subsale population?

Whenever the surrounding area facilities is good and convenience, there will always be the subsale market demand. Its just the matter of soon or later. As long as that area is destiny to develop.

Crazy dog has been sniffing in many places (forums)…..wonder if he has sniffed any gold yet !

IJM & Ivory already started at development at mainland. Sunway to start very soon and Sunway big banner already up. Later, those branded developer such as SP Setia, Mah Sing, E&O will also start development at mainland. Got $$ buy now. When price shoot-up, really fatt liao . . .

Where is ivory project in mainland? Never heard of it lo

@Crazy dog

“Aston Villa” in Bukit Mertajam… Everyone had talking about its for sometimes already. Wonder why you still never heard of it. Lol…

Ivory’s Aston Villa had been there for so long… but still underconstruction ? how long it had been delay? What happen?

@CYX
my friend bought Aston Villa at BM by Ivory at RM750K (3 storey semi-detached). I don’t the project delay cos I did not hear anything from her ..

called IJM today. Show house will be ready by end of July.

@Alice

From May to June, from June to Mid-July. Now End of July. Manda’rina really is planning something there. Keep delaying their show house launching date! S&P also still no confirmation, bank loan offer will be ending soon and everyone will need to e-apply again. Lol… Anyway, which unit did you book Alice?

Alice :called IJM today. Show house will be ready by end of July.

Alice, how many units you have booked in BM area? I saw another Alice also have booked Orange Villa. Is that you?

@nike
There are many version of Alice(s) in Orang Villa, which one you refer to? Perhaps this Alice is very rich, own houses everywhere in BM.

Wow, no bad BM also got investors. In fact, if you start buying houses in BM area 5-10years ago, you will earn multi millions today. People is greedy, once you have money you will continue to do it…. Buy Buy Buy!!! You see double storey in BM Permai is now RM430k. If you bought it last year, you earn RM80k!

@CYX
So, you need to start to do investment. Permatang Sactuary is good project to do investment. IJM developer is 100% better than OV developer. I trust that IJM will built good quality house and buyer will be very happy — my lot number is 26.

Alice :I just book Lot No. 28

Alice, you booked Lot 26 or Lot 28? or both? or this is different Alice we are talking about?

@nike
mine is Lot 26 – booked in Jan – after CNY

Alice :@nike mine is Lot 26 – booked in Jan – after CNY

Holy crap,we have so many Alice in BM. At least 2 Alices in Permatang Sanctuary. Haha

IJM starts to put up the huge “Permatang Sanctuary” sign at the main road entrance, striking green colour, quite nice.

@BD
Yup, I saw that huge banner. Can wait to see the show house. I have a feeling that the show house or the original house will look great and able to satify a lot of buyers. I’m really looking forward for my new house

@nike
I choose the name Alice becuase my lovely dog’s name is Alice. It is so happened that Alice already being used by others in this forum. Maybe I should change my nickname.

@Alice
Don’t get excited too early. The chicken farm smell and flies still a major concerns in that area.

Smell or no smell, flies or no flies… Almost all non bumi units have been booked. Wait till decision make, price already sky rocket high. That also if lucky to have subsales unit.

K2 :Smell or no smell, flies or no flies… Almost all non bumi units have been booked. Wait till decision make, price already sky rocket high. That also if lucky to have subsales unit.

All units near to the garden is still ok. For those who bought a unit near to the chicken farm really pity to them. Paying more than 450k living with chicken

As fas as I know, I cannot find a new project along the way from machang bubuk to Alma which is far away from chicken farm & chicken hills. Look at Tropicale, Hillpark, Jesselton, Alma ria 2, Parmatang Sanctuary, Permai Indah and so on, all these project are so close to chicken farm/hill. The worst is Pearl Indah, Pearl Garden and Pearl Residence (by Tambun Indah) at Simpang Ampat where the pig farm and chicken farm are just side by side. If you ask me which one I prefer, I will say Jesselton because of the quality given by DNP and I believe the subsales value will also be good. Just like people buy PS because they trust IJM despite the smell issue, flies issue and so on.

@K2
Give you some hints. When the show house is ready, please pay a visit during flies season. Hopefully it will not worst than Pearl projects. I went to Pearl’s show house and i can see a lot of flies shit mark on the sofa.

@K2
Give you some hints. When the show house is ready, please pay a visit during flies season. Hopefully it will not worst than Pearl projects. I went to Pearl’s show house and i can see a lot of flies shXt mark on the sofa.

actualy ppl going for PS because of the 10k refunable. my point of view IJM reputation and workmanship is nt the main concern for me only.since no lose if nt buying, jz simply put a 10k and wait for the show house to complete.i don mind to pay more to chase away d chicken farm, but tis cant be an excuse for developer to impose more cost to the house as if dey wan to sell their properties, they hv to figure out this issue.

i also think IJM is trustable and 10k fully refundable, why not???
Totally different from some developers in Penang.

I believe IJM will make the showhouse so irresistable you won’t want to let go your unit. They are master of this trade for so long that you can remember. With your 1 foot in, they will make sure they have your last foot in. Too much to lose if they cannot even hold their maiden launch of Permatang Sanctuary.

wood :@chan
Negative side on guarded only development:1. No gated, the guard no right to block outsider to use the main and internal roads as those roads are not belong to the permatang santuary’s community, in fact the roads are belong to MPSP.2. Smelly chicken farm nearby3. The development not in strategic location.4. last time is one of the flood areas, that is why developer plan for big retention pond there.5. All landscapings will be maintained by MPSP in future, it may become mosquito – aedes’s home if MPSP not come on time to cut the bush/grass. Retention ponds might become Aedes’s home too.6. Hard to collect money for paying the guard services, not all residents willing to pay due to no enforcement on monthly maintenace fees.7. Traffic always congested during office hours from Juru’s main road to permatang tinggi, you can take other routes with longer distance, waste time and money.8. Nearby old taman and shops lot filled with lot of banglas, will create security issues.9. Semi-D with terrace’s build up only.10. Residents can re-design their house external outlook such as repainting with the color they like, build addtional external partial of building and so on, the outlook of whole taman not neat.11. Pet’a poof such as dog’s poof will be here and there at roads and play ground or front of house, the poof might come from the house’s dogs/cats, wild dogs/cats later on.12.The guard house at main road or internal road can be demolished by MPSP if getting complaint from outsider or nearby residents.13.Seem likes nearby tis development still have empty land, if it is own by other developer in future, then potential re-open the end road of this taman is higher.
Positve side:1. IJM is a branded developer, no doubt on house’s quality and material.2. Cheaper house price.3. Resident no need to follow the rules cause this is not GnG development.4. No need to pay monthly maintenance fees for maintaining landscaping, retention pond, roads, guard services and so on.5. Resident can repaint their house with the color they like or demolish whole house and rebuild it if they not like the current house design, provided they’re rich enough to do that.6. 10mins to Tesco and future Jusco.
summ: Negative side(13 pts) more than Postive side(6 pts). Buy or not buy, you make the call !

Good analyze!

@Alice
Not too balanced though….can at least knock 6 points off ! Gated is not essential when the phase is designed with only 1 entrance or exit. All traffic is internal…..only owners/tenants and the occasional visitor uses it. Internal traffic will be light and drop poles can be constructed for guarded community to prevent unwelcome night prowlers as long as the community agrees to it. Retention pond alleviates flooding. It’s a plus point. Heavy traffic along PT and Juru not a peculiar problem to PS….all nearby prestigious DNP projects are also affected. Banglas is a temporary problem…which development don’t use cheap labour? House renovation….everyone with loads of cash in any taman usually gets itchy. It’s bad luck when your neighbour (any neighbour) decides to make a palace entrance next to yours and then your original lovely semi-d suddenly turns into a miserable hut! Pet’s poof…..the last thing to worry about. There is no taman yet that I know where you can enforce “no pets allowed”. A lot of “ifs” like guard house can be demolished…..let’s live in the present.

@Chuah
My current house is worst off. Everytime after raining, I can smell rubber bcos there is
rubber factory near by my taman. Rubber smell is worst than chicken shit smell but
yet there are a lot of rich people still staying at this taman. My house also got flies and during
flies season, roughly there are 10 flies. Use enzyme and spray at windows, kitchen area .
I can gurantee you that the flies will go away. I have been using this method
since 2 years ago

@Chuah

Will never worst than Pearl project because…

1. Chicken poultry will not be as bad as chicken/pig farm. Why? Because they(pig/chicken farm) produce shits and leftover food which attract flies and create smell.
2. Chicken poultry will not produce all that… With proper dispose of chicken remaining and regular housekeeping problem will be solve.
3. There are numbers of flies in that area I think is because of large area which not yet been develop(can be see from Google map there was still a large area of jungle surrounding). Till the area had been clear up from jungle and population increase, flies definitely will reduce unless the neighborhood was dirty.

Furthermore, if don’t like this project just move on and get another house at another place. I believe you’re not a buyer here since you had this thought. If yes, why want to complain after you had booked?Fyi, I’ll surely visit the show house regularly since I’m a buyer. Btw, which developer project in that areas can’t get a good sales? I think most of it had been sold out. Any problems there? Pricing still rising(high demand) and increasing populations.

With TESCO already on business, upcoming 2nd link, JUSCO and business hub this place is doom to be a business and entertainment center. With so much temptation, its hard for buyer to resist. Its so convenience for resident and with all this facility in future, increasing house price also be key for investor to earned.

I buy… The price sure will appreaciate in the future…

If anyone is interested in a 3 storrey terrace house with 7 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms, 3 balconies which has been fully renovated (designer kitchen, plaster ceiling, walk in wardrobe, designer colour motive rooms, air cond, fans, water heaters, alarm system, etc)…for more than 100k at Simpang Ampat, in a Gated and Guarded community, please contact me at stygianseraph@hotmail.com.

RM460k

K2 :
@Chuah
Will never worst than Pearl project because…
1. Chicken poultry will not be as bad as chicken/pig farm. Why? Because they(pig/chicken farm) produce shits and leftover food which attract flies and create smell.
2. Chicken poultry will not produce all that… With proper dispose of chicken remaining and regular housekeeping problem will be solve.
3. There are numbers of flies in that area I think is because of large area which not yet been develop(can be see from Google map there was still a large area of jungle surrounding). Till the area had been clear up from jungle and population increase, flies definitely will reduce unless the neighborhood was dirty.
Furthermore, if don’t like this project just move on and get another house at another place. I believe you’re not a buyer here since you had this thought. If yes, why want to complain after you had booked?Fyi, I’ll surely visit the show house regularly since I’m a buyer. Btw, which developer project in that areas can’t get a good sales? I think most of it had been sold out. Any problems there? Pricing still rising(high demand) and increasing populations.
With TESCO already on business, upcoming 2nd link, JUSCO and business hub this place is doom to be a business and entertainment center. With so much temptation, its hard for buyer to resist. Its so convenience for resident and with all this facility in future, increasing house price also be key for investor to earned.

Pearl project a big NO NO to me. Not 10 or 20 flies i’m talking about. It’s countless flies….I don’t want to take the risk so after think twice, i gave up PS as well.

@K2
Pearl project a big NO NO to me. Not 10 or 20 flies i’m talking about. It’s countless flies….I don’t want to take the risk. So after think twice, i gave up PS as well.

after all, chicken farm stil the major issue. if it doesnt exist. i wont be here discus bout it. hw wonderful the concept is, the farm make ur properties unworth compare to others.however, i wish developer took serious consideration into this concern.probably dey delay the showhouse to extend some time nego v farm owner? who knows??

@Chuah
There are immediate takers if you wish to let go your unit. The last time I complain to the developer about the chicken, he said I will lose my early advantage cos’ many are waiting in the queue! I have a friend regretted he didn’t take up the cheaper unit earlier. Now he still take up the one with side facing the rising sun and cost him an extra 14K. I told him that I am going to plant some trees to mitigate the setting sun and will cost me only a couple of hundred dollars only. “Ah ya, what to do. If I wait some more, the price going to go up higher lah”. So, you see….better think carefully. Chickens now a part of our life…..more population, more people eat chicken. The only time chicken farm gets pushed out is when the place get more developed and it is better/cheaper to operate somewhere else. Fact is, rapid development is coming to Alma. There is hope! Chicken farm will have to go someday….save on Mortein or Shelltox!

@Mike
It really depends on personal preference. Some ppl just look for the appreciation which i will call it ‘HOUSE’. Some ppl are looking for own stay which i will call it ‘HOME’. To me, i will not take the risk to deal with the chicken smell and flies for my new ‘HOME’. I know the chicken farm will have to go someday. But do you have the exact date? It could be 1-2 years or 10-20 years. I don’t want to take the risk.

Chicken..chicken..chicken..

@Chuah
Hope you will find a good home somewhere else. There is always some risks in any undertaking. The trouble is that finding a real good one could take some time and the window of opportunity is missed. Again those with little risks are the ones that have high demand….they will come at a price. It depends on your risk appetite. Reading thru this forum, there has been many pros than cons highlighted but some I believe are just “fears” rather than “facts”. I believe PS has less risk than other projects. Your worst chicken fear is not without a solution. You can actually overcome that by air-conditioning the whole unit…no more smell, no more flies, no more noise. That’s a serious solution…..probably unnecessary.

can consider…buy Palm Villas or Orange Villa good location , dont worry about the chicken smell and flies at all…..

@Mike
Whether is ‘fears’ or ‘facts’, i guess now is too early to conclude. If you try to overcome the smell and flies issue with air cond, I think the solution is more to ‘facts’. Anyway, good luck and wish a have a happy ‘HOME’.

Mike :
@Chuah
Hope you will find a good home somewhere else. There is always some risks in any undertaking. The trouble is that finding a real good one could take some time and the window of opportunity is missed. Again those with little risks are the ones that have high demand….they will come at a price. It depends on your risk appetite. Reading thru this forum, there has been many pros than cons highlighted but some I believe are just “fears” rather than “facts”. I believe PS has less risk than other projects. Your worst chicken fear is not without a solution. You can actually overcome that by air-conditioning the whole unit…no more smell, no more flies, no more noise. That’s a serious solution…..probably unnecessary.

That was so true. Everything came with price to pay. In buying house, only 3 aspect to take into account. Location, view and convenience. The more better its, the more pricy it will be.

Your are absolutely right. PS has proximity to the best shopping complexes like Tesco and Jusco (coming) and central to 2 links (coming) to the island. Timing is excellent…about 2 years from now when the house will also be ready. Its location is ideal and convenient. Good landscaping by a renown developer will surely give PS a breathtaking view and great ambience to the surroundings. Best of all, it is reasonably priced. All these development around Alma are not “ifs”. They are real and actually happening. Lock in one unit at this price. Who knows? When IJM launch their bungalows, all risks being equal, you can opt to upgrade because prices will rise in tandem.

Hi mike, totally agree. I just visited the site. Beside good location, The landscaping and building quality is excellent. Can’t wait till the actual launching. This will certainly set another high standard of housing project in BM area. Hope the other develops will up their housing projects standard too. Or else they will run out of business in current slow economy condition. Good luck guys

When housing price booming, even get an expensive house wil also been consider cheaper although v al noe tat its actually nt cheap at all.(depend personal affortibilty) house buy for living comfort,if nt necessary it should avoid modification after completion.so I jz xnot accept tat I hv to consile and instal air conc to prevent air pollution. That’s actually is another add cost and action

@TL
IJM confirmed that at launch the price will increased by RM20K with no discount. If you book now, you still can get RM10k discount.

@Chan
I agree with you. No need renovation especially when the outlook already look good. Pump all the remaining cash you have to settle the housing loan first is the wisest approach. Committing to half a million is no joke….if lose job, then have to put up “fire sale”. Installing air cond to whole house is not a good idea. Only those desperate about the “ayam menace” will do it.

I just went to the site no fly no chicken smell, when is the fly season?…if everyone so concern about this, install the uv light to kill the fly and air purifier. I will open a shop to sell it at the shop lot in front. This time Fatt liow lah…

@TL
So as.mentioned, v should do prevention nt reaction towards the flies and smell issue.if developer seen evy1 is so confidence dey can settle the flies by instal evything, dey won’t try their best for us to cure this problem

Instead of 10k reward, the developer should give away fly killer light and air purifier.

lost :
@TL
IJM confirmed that at launch the price will increased by RM20K with no discount. If you book now, you still can get RM10k discount.

The sale must be not doing well as the 10% discount still applicable after 9 months launch, this is not IJM style lo. Every month also call as launching months, really number 1 cannot sell, IJM make a big mistake for over confident lo

Crazy dog :

lost :@TL IJM confirmed that at launch the price will increased by RM20K with no discount. If you book now, you still can get RM10k discount.

The sale must be not doing well as the 10% discount still applicable after 9 months launch, this is not IJM style lo. Every month also call as launching months, really number 1 cannot sell, IJM make a big mistake for over confident lo

Don’t guess….see for yourself the actual status at the IJM office. It’s a psychological move to raise prices progressively and keep the early purchasers intact. Move 2 steps up, back up 1 step. Move 2 more steps, backup 1 step…..simple arithmetic tells you it is still going up. Now you see, it is almost all sold. No more going back….no more discount liau!

Buy later but have to pay more… Your choice… This may be the last chance for you to own a semi D in BM at below 500k.

@Crazy dog
Did you went to see the unit? if not, please keep your mouth shut. 70% of the non-bumiputra lot has been sold. After the show opened by end of Jul and if buyer don’t like the house, 10K deposit is 100% refundable as S&P is not signed. This project is not yet launch, so none of the buyer have signed S&P. The project will launch in Aug 2012.
Crazy dog, don’t go around and barking as real buyer will laugh at you..

@lost Wait till the snp sign date surely many ppl will withdraw the 10k deposit as there is no obligation to buy, no penalty also i could have easily book 5 units now and wait see wait see till now after found out so many cons about this location and next sign snp pull out my 50k at no single cents lost. So the 70% sold out just make you song song for a while only lo.

my though, thr wil sure be empty unit(let go by previous buyer) for sold even after the official launching. jz u cant get discount and price offer only. If the development not come with zero entrance and refund deposit, i can gurentee and confirm thr wil be plenty of lots left empty. for me, as long as the S&P nt signed, the properties stil nt consider sold !

@Crazy dog
If the buyer withdraw, 10K deposit, IJM will be even more happpier. IJM can take that unit and sell at higher price and without discount . . . IJM earn more $$. IJM a branded and bursa saham listed company, a few millions, IJM will not worry. IJM houses at anywhere is selling like hot cakes. IJM share prices is the highest.

@chan
yes, the properties is still not yet consider sold. But IJM cannot sold the unit that the buyer have booked or increase the price. IJM can only re-sell the unit, if the buyer want to let go. There is a letter of offer that is written very clearly on the term and condition. Go to IJM office and take a look.

@chan
For basic unit, Phase 1 A buyer paid 418K after 20K discount from 438K. Phase 1B buyer paid 444K after 10K discount from 454K. After SnP, 474K no discount. Between you and the 1st buyer, you are 56K behind liao ! That’s one Perodua MyVi with change. Not sure why you want to wait some more ????

Mike :
@chan
For basic unit, Phase 1 A buyer paid 418K after 20K discount from 438K. Phase 1B buyer paid 444K after 10K discount from 454K. After SnP, 474K no discount. Between you and the 1st buyer, you are 56K behind liao ! That’s one Perodua MyVi with change. Not sure why you want to wait some more ????

We are taking about nearly half million house here. Don’t tell me we are buying this unit because the developer is going to increase 20k after SnP without considering the location (chicken farm). If the developer is going to increase 100k after SnP, then we ma have to bang the head to this project???

If thr r empty lot after launch and developer stil wan raise price, really hv to salute dem.actualy is nt about d price,is the value and willingness to invest on dem.nt because dey discount and gv offer v should appreciate. V talking bout half million house.for me a teenager tats way too big amount.conclude, location is good jz I damn hate chicken farm!

@Crazy dog
I don’t need to tell you how good is the sale, how good is the location bcos I’m not IJM sales person. I’m just a buyer. You want to know the answer, go there see by yourself.

@dave
Double-storey house with 20×70 feet already RM420K at BM area. I believe their last phase, will increase by RM100K. This project, altogether got 7 phases.

@Chan
non-bumiputera lot only have 30% left. bumiputera lot still have a lot that is empty but all the bumi lot are at very good location. Selling technique by IJM. Later, they will sell the bumi lot at a more increase prices. Those who don’t like chicken farm, then go buy somewhere else but anyway, the chicken farm is not really near the PS.

lost :
@dave
Double-storey house with 20×70 feet already RM420K at BM area. I believe their last phase, will increase by RM100K. This project, altogether got 7 phases.

For those buy for long-term invest, the chicken farm is not a big problem to them. But for those buy for own stay, i believe the appreciation should not be the main concern but the air pollution, smell and flies issue will be their concern.

lost :
@Chan
non-bumiputera lot only have 30% left. bumiputera lot still have a lot that is empty but all the bumi lot are at very good location. Selling technique by IJM. Later, they will sell the bumi lot at a more increase prices. Those who don’t like chicken farm, then go buy somewhere else but anyway, the chicken farm is not really near the PS.

You may check the wikimapia or see the site for yourself, the chicken farm is just next to PS. For me,this project is a No No just because of the chicken farm. However, I have to admit this project is good for long term investment

not only the chic farm, permatang santuary will be occupied by bangla later..nearby taman really eyesores !! saw many bangla, indonesia, vietnam workers lepak there !

that why i never consider this project.

@dave
I don’t need to use wiki. I have tour all the nearby area. Yes, there are many chicken farm nearby but eventually, the chicken farm will no longer be there. The land will be acquired by developers. Who know next developer coming mainland could be SP Setia, Mah Sing …
Buy now — you will not be wrong.

@Fact
Yes, there many foreigners there but please respect them. They are also human, like us. Without them to come here and work as cheap labor, I think most of the factories would have closed down. You and me will be out of work and cannot even talk about buying new house. so, please respect them.

Actually if you have fren working in TMnet, you could check who are those hide below the nick name. So guy, pls dont simply talk thing here avoid trouble later.

@IT guy
This website control login id is no good. This website allow to have same username that confused everyone here. The ADMIN should do something here. Thanks IT guy for your help. We doesn’t need to spent time to trace who is crazy dog but if the ADMIN can change the control uniqueness by username, this will be very good.

lost :@IT guy This website control login id is no good. This website allow to have same username that confused everyone here. The ADMIN should do something here. Thanks IT guy for your help. We doesn’t need to spent time to trace who is crazy dog but if the ADMIN can change the control uniqueness by username, this will be very good.

Then is find, to add on, could go thru TMnet, Maxis, Yes, P1 or Digi all service provider could help also. Let me know if you want his address.

The sale is good, all the units at good location are sold or reserved. The developer try to clear the units at the bad location first. I don’t like this style actually.
You may go and take a look the new show room sale office. They use 2 semi D units and the design is outstanding. You may consider to buy 2 units and renovate it become a bungalow. Who want to let go 2 adjacent units at good location? (facing the park)

don’t worry everyone is free to voice in this blog. You may invested in other projects but feel Permatang sanctuary is actually the better one.

TL :The sale is good, all the units at good location are sold or reserved. The developer try to clear the units at the bad location first. I don’t like this style actually.You may go and take a look the new show room sale office. They use 2 semi D units and the design is outstanding. You may consider to buy 2 units and renovate it become a bungalow. Who want to let go 2 adjacent units at good location? (facing the park)

Agree with you, all the bumi lots seem to have better location.

lost :@Fact Yes, there many foreigners there but please respect them. They are also human, like us. Without them to come here and work as cheap labor, I think most of the factories would have closed down. You and me will be out of work and cannot even talk about buying new house. so, please respect them.

I wish your future neighbour will be those bangla. Then wanna see you still can talk so song boh. wahahaha

Chuah :

lost :@Fact Yes, there many foreigners there but please respect them. They are also human, like us. Without them to come here and work as cheap labor, I think most of the factories would have closed down. You and me will be out of work and cannot even talk about buying new house. so, please respect them.

I wish your future neighbour will be those bangla. Then wanna see you still can talk so song boh. wahahaha

Haha,lost will respect those bangla 1.Dun worry

It now become the debate of chicken farm vs bangla village vs million dollars dream. Actual the build up of the semi d are very small this is the first rip off already, secondly this area suddenly developed with multiple mega housing projects surely it will supply more than demand. For those who bought to invest will find hard for sub sale on this area and resulted to rent out for bangla as a way to sustain the monthly cost. I dont see any potential on this project serously lo

@Crazy dog
You are right, Crazy Dog. I don’t like the location at all. Stay near with those ‘ai si mai si’ shop lots in front, near chicken farm, a lot of foreign workers…..Wa tak mau de………

Chuah :
@Crazy dog
You are right, Crazy Dog. I don’t like the location at all. Stay near with those ‘ai si mai si’ shop lots in front, near chicken farm, a lot of foreign workers…..Wa tak mau de………

You and me said tak nak, but got bunch of buyers including the “lost” as the name suggested really lost in the IJM marketing tactic lo, they thought to be the first mover for sure they are the king of profit already and people give bad comment on the project they will jump high high and blindly give wrong facts. They really thought they have dive into a gold mine, but other people see this as of dive into chicken sai lo hehehehe

@Crazy dog
Cannot blame “lost” because already stepped on the ‘sai’.

All developers played well in the “KiaSu” psychological strategy. All said no more discount and increase 20% after show house ready. Ppl will be rushing to buy the units

sincerely say,I book d unit bc of the refundable deposit and can’t found any cheaper hz around.nt really like it but no choice.book 1st jz c later.watever $ can be take bek.when sign s&p time come, den I’ll only take serious on it.by nw tis project can’t even gv me any good impression.

if i have $$, i will buy gated and guarded scheme, more secure and more neat!

Invest in property always have better return compare to putting your money in bank. So far, houses in BM area give good return, except houses in Juru. Permatang Sanctuary is potential project. Once the area been developed, the house price will appreciate further. You also need to choose the developer, you will lost if the project abandon.

TL :
Invest in property always have better return compare to putting your money in bank. So far, houses in BM area give good return, except houses in Juru. Permatang Sanctuary is potential project. Once the area been developed, the house price will appreciate further. You also need to choose the developer, you will lost if the project abandon.

Agree with you. When we buy house we must select the developer. Do not believe to what the sales person/manager promises and guarantees. This was happened in Orange villa. things turn out to be very ugly….

@TL
Fully agree. Low risks low returns like putting money in the bank but incur much higher risks in property investment. Good returns if do proper risk assessment. You put cash in the bank cos you trust your banker. You also put money in property cos you trust your developer. IJM tells you the truth….did not hide anything 1st time visited their sales office. You can trust they will make good any shortfall in workmanship or quality in the future. Save your frustration and have good night sleep!

Look at the BM Permai blog. People is asking for more than 100k gain of the 350k 2 storey terrace house after less than 2 yrs investments. This is unbelievable!

TL :Look at the BM Permai blog. People is asking for more than 100k gain of the 350k 2 storey terrace house after less than 2 yrs investments. This is unbelievable!

Got ppl buy meh?

I think 400-450k is fair price. Sure got people buy and the demand is high. The 2 storey terrace in BM Utama already cost 400k and the size is smaller compare to BM Permai.

@TL
Taman Kota Permai new double storey terrace just got OC sold at RM430K. Property price is getting higher and higher.

lost :
@TL
Taman Kota Permai new double storey terrace just got OC sold at RM430K. Property price is getting higher and higher.

2 storey at 430k? corner unit?

@Chan

ya I agree with u too…dont really have good feeling bout this project but then just book as its the cheapest deal compared to the rest…will see how later…chan..u book which unit?

No worry. The developer’s tactic will lead you to sign the deal. During the launching, the price will increase by $30k. many people attend the launching and create a good scene. Sure there will be some visitors sign up the deal. This will make you think that already earned at $30k compare to people that just booking. Isn’t is feel good…then you also sign up the SnP… That’s easy…right?

If you wouldn’t let go, you are classified Kia Su. If you let go, they’ll say you are stupid. If you hadn’t book the unit earlier, then your heart will ache bad. If those want to book it during SnP and not wanting to miss it, they will also be called Kia Su. All in all, no need to bang head on the wall….only makes you more stupid. The best thing to do is evaluate its worth and its potential value before diving in with your hard earned half million ringgit…..and that’s expected to depreciate in value if you don’t put it to work for you asap! That’s a double wammer….house price go up, money value come down. And that beautiful dream of yours could just remain a beautiful dream!

half million house, after bought evyday hv to chase d flies out, wave ur hand when dining, close ur door and isolate the fresh air, visitors are terrified when come visiting(image spoil), risk of getting illness probably by any decease spread and etc…and most important, is cost us half a million !!! if i hv few million in pocket mayb i’ll compete v others to avoid being said kia su. on the others hand, i dont think buying such an exp house stil hv to think about who win who lose. i noe it’s not worth, but stil, need to wait til the show house complete to proof that it really not worth!

@Chan
I don’t think the show house will help you much in your decision….it will only show you what you can do with the internal deco. It will not change the external factors that are clouding your mind. The overall worth or value of the house is based on the internal as well as the external factors. The internal factors are within your control. The external ones are not within your control. The external factors are the risk assessment that you must consider and come to terms with.

@Mike

i und. hv done a SWOT analysis and fesibility study.actualy ade went into the show house few times during their construction.although nt furnish, but the rooms are actualy quite very very small. 2 single rooms jz half of the size of a cabinet.1 bed 1 desk full.cant even fix in a cupboard. the show room is jz to show my though of nt worth is real…

@Chan
Good to see people use SWOT analysis in the property study. So, is PS strengths overcome weaknesses? Is the opportunities overcome the threats? The house is cheaper but smaller built up, you see this smaller built up a threat for you? It is depends on how you weight the SWOT here, if you are able to change the weaknesses to strengths and threats to opportunities…then should not be any concern to invest in PS…so, what is your answer here?

The value of our ringgit has shrunk, so is the size of the house and the rooms. If moving from current semi-d to new semi-d, then more likely to be a disappointment. If moving from flat to semi-d, then it’s a blessing. It seems likely that you have more cons than the pros. If need to consider another project, use a rationalized approach. What is the ringgit per sq foot of build-up to make a sound judgement? If the chicken is an overshadowing consideration, then it is going to bear on you until it is gone. Personally, I think it’s been overblown…but it’s yours to decide!

@XY

pls check bek previous post to know more about it.

@Chan
What I mean is we are not able to change the cons to pros lah. I have been monitor this project from beginning and went to the site and office couple of times. The answer is a big “NO” for me although the price is cheaper and the project is belongs to IJM.

If you need a house, you have to buy it anyway. Guarded, gated, chicken smell, bangla, flies also you have to buy one. This is a basic human needs. I can’t see any chance for Penang house dropping price even in current slow down economy. KL house price drop a little about 10%, Penang house price is still maintain because of the influx of investment and population. It is good time to buy property.

Take a step up approach. Buy now and ride on the crest. Hop onto the one-that-you-want when you find one. Just pay the difference. At least you don’t miss the boat…..provided no other better choice now!

@TL
As I mentioned before. If u need a HOUSE, then go for it. If you need a HOME, is a big NO for PS. Unless you willing to fire fight with the flies and the aromatic smell(chicken) everyday when you reach HOME.

House for the first 5 years, home for the next 5 years and upgrade to bigger home in later phase. Don’t miss anything….flies gone, chicken moved house, flowers blooming, garden parks maturing, bangla balik kampong, jusco expanded, house renovated, etc, etc. Then the other green green taman maybe spring up new chicken coop….time to have the last laugh. Ha! Ha!

Continue…. Road expanded, bridge added, more factories, more shop, more houses, more schools, more people, house price increased… Sell the house to those still haven’t buy…. And move on to get a bigger one…. Hahaha

Settle d chicken farm 1st before talk about the others.if d hz sold nt in a good price in future, any1 wanna bear d responsible??since u al mentioned it may hv a bright future

Investment depends on strategy. One man’s meat may be another man’s poison and there will always be different view points. Some will eventually sell, some will see it a good buy and keep it. The holding power depends on each individual. There is business as long there are buyers and sellers. Investment is also about seeing the future potential…..how many years from now. Laggards can be bought at cheaper price but they soon catch up with the rest. BM in the past was outside the radar of investors, today why the islanders are coming here? It was crazy to think about setting up a family in BM in those days. The island was the only place. Now has it not changed? I am surprised myself why I ever thought of buying a property in BM although I grew up on the island. Simply because the island has got too expensive. In the final analysis, how much can you can afford, how much returns and how far you are looking for maybe your decisive point. Seems everyone here so fond of chicken, a good analysis would be….Chicken lay eggs, some hatch and become little chicks while some become rotten eggs. For the little chicks, if you nurture them well, they grow up to be mother hen and lay more eggs. Ha! Ha!

Hi mike, good chicken theory. Totally agree with you. A lot of people grew up in island and work in island but now move to mainland because of the house price. There are also many retirees in island move to mainland for bigger house and better environment. But a lot of island people choose the wrong location, many of them invested in juru because they think close to auto city means good location. Now alma seem like better…

@TL
You are absolutely right….if big giants like Tesco and Jusco choose Alma, we can’t be far off. Actually Alma was targetted in the master plan for development more than 10 years ago….it certainly took some time to take off. The incubation period is over. The chicks are hatching!

@TL
Agreed. Juru is only suitable for factory and commercial activities. Just look at Juru Height, not doing good.

I heard the launching is end July and SnP sign on end August.

i received a letter last week say wat wat delay nt late den dec 2012..nt really go study

i really regret buying Ovilla, now it turn very ugly. Next time think will have problem with developer in rectifying defects. Their attitude have big problem. I should have buy PS of IJM.

Hopefully there is no later than August… Otherwise, I need to re-apply the loan again. As bank offer wil expired after 6 month from the letter offer been sign.

I don’t understand why you all keep mum about the projects but still want to proceed to sign the SNP ? So this mean what ? Meaning this project still good for you to buy. Stop all the non-sense complaints if you still insist to put your head into it.

@Hong
If you can help expedite the advertising permit release from the authorities….by all means!

http://maps.google.com.my/maps?hl=en&q=n5.303428+e100.485218&aq=f&aqi=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=634&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=JEPpT5P2NYLqrQfijpGOD

1. this is where the row of houses ( link-semi d ) located. Based on master plan.
Phase 1 ( Launched dec 2011 ) and facing the themed park. ( Guessing )

2. piling done for some houses for phase 2 , nearest to the show house. (guessing)

3. Should b 2 entry points . Jalan Rohzan fr kulim and Jalan Kg Manggis fr simpang Ampat.
( guessing)

To all the chicken skeptics, visit http://www.cjpoultry.com
This is Cian Jia Poultry Farm next to PS project….they are using modern technology called “in-house breeding system”. It is all enclosed. Their website has all the photos you want to see to clear your doubts about your neighbour. By the way, I have visited the site 6 times. The muddy long kang is stinkier! I thought my nose was playing tricks on me but maybe I tried too hard to smell a chicken !

I only smell the chicken stink whenever there was a rain 1 day before. But sounds noisy everyday whenever i walk near to the chicken poultry.

i more concern bout the hygyene problem. gem,bacteria,pollution,water discharge and etc…anywhr, chicken poultry has reduce my interest to 30%. depend hw the show house present.

Why got someone comment don’t go for this project in this blog? People is not using his money to buy the house. What he care? Really can not understand. He can write long comment for nothing!

Some recent news to digest….indeed mainland properties are still playing “catch up”.
“Last year, the total number of residential units that were sold in Penang climbed 68.2% to 30,674 from 18,233 in 2010, while the total value of property transactions rose 59.8% to RM7.7bil. The Penang Institute data show a 50% average rise in Penang property price since 2007, with condominiums on the island rising by 82%, and terraced and semi-detached or detached units on the mainland climbing by 25% and 30% respectively.”

Is mainland property really trying to catch up in price or is it just less popular and so less attractive to the “quick buck” investor? The catch is this. If you are a long term investor, a laggard potential is a good catch cos time is on his side. If a short term investor, it is also a good catch cos’ it is about to spring forth anytime!

Any unit for semi-d is still available?

Hi Germany, please share if you find a better place.

@Alice
did the developer own you any $$? why are you talking bad about this project?

@Germany
Oh! I forgot to tell you the positve side. Don’t make a bad decision when everything said is negative. :1. IJM is a branded developer, no doubt on house’s quality and material.2. Cheaper house price.3. Resident no need to follow the rules cause this is not GnG development.4. No need to pay monthly maintenance fees for maintaining landscaping, retention pond, roads, guard services and so on.5. Resident can repaint their house with the color they like or demolish whole house and rebuild it if they not like the current house design, provided they’re rich enough to do that.6. 10mins to Tesco and future Jusco.

@Germany
1. No risk refundable booking fee 2. No legal fees for SnP 3. No legal fees for bank loan 4. Early bird advantage. Immediate profit upon sales launch in August 5. Modern and appealing design 6. No short change on workmanship and materials 7. Reliable housing developer will not abandon project 8. Excellent featured park and garden 9. High walled fencing for privacy 10. Guarded…..security at minimal cost 11. One entry one exit 12. Future appreciation. No low cost development plan for the whole taman 13. Choice of access through 2nd bridge to the island 14. Excellent infrastructure all around 15. Within Alma and the master development plan of central region of Penang mainland. Note: I am not a salesperson and don’t get paid for this analysis. Just feel sorry that you made such a hasty decision.

Mark :@Germany 1. No risk refundable booking fee 2. No legal fees for SnP 3. No legal fees for bank loan 4. Early bird advantage. Immediate profit upon sales launch in August 5. Modern and appealing design 6. No short change on workmanship and materials 7. Reliable housing developer will not abandon project 8. Excellent featured park and garden 9. High walled fencing for privacy 10. Guarded…..security at minimal cost 11. One entry one exit 12. Future appreciation. No low cost development plan for the whole taman 13. Choice of access through 2nd bridge to the island 14. Excellent infrastructure all around 15. Within Alma and the master development plan of central region of Penang mainland. Note: I am not a salesperson and don’t get paid for this analysis. Just feel sorry that you made such a hasty decision.

Thanks Alice & Mark, my fren told me almost all units sold off and left only those units are very near to chicken poultry farm. I am abit concerned with the health problem. Other than that, not much concern as you said refundable booking fee right?should be no harm.

Another advantages: fresh chicken and eggs supply

Another advantage: no alarm clock needed, waking up by chickens in the morning.

@Germany
Some good units will definitely be released during sign SnP in August as there are many fence sitters who have put in their “no risk refundable deposit” and still couldn’t make up their mind. The new price could be higher but health is an important issue. It is better to pay slightly higher price than taking one with doubts in your mind. Those units further away are safe bets because the poultry farm is a “closed house system” and does not pollute the environment. We cannot speculate if IJM will buy up the land to add to its land bank but there were negotiations between them, only they could not agree on the price. Land development is a more profitable business than chicken farming. IJM has the financial muscle to change things. If the development is a huge success (with all the positive factors in place), there is likelyhood in the future that a deal could be made. PS is for the long term investor and home maker. My 2 cents worth against your 1/2 million ringgit decision.

Another advantage is big car porch that Able to fit 4 cars. The will make the outlook of the house looks very grand.

went to site 3 times and i can see IJM already started construction though S&P have not yet signed. 3 times there but still cannot smell the chicken shit but did ask around people staying there. they said you can smell it only when raining or when the wind is strong otherwise should be OK. They find it no problem staying (flies on season) there but still prefer the chicken farm to be relocated to somewhere else. Did some research on internet that chicken shit smell is very good for high blood and hypertension people but bad for those who had kidney problem. But anyway, this location is much better than Mah Sing project at Bayan Lepas/Batu Maung where the project location is too near to industrial – health hazadous area and a silent killer.

In all my research, I have never heard that “chicken shit smell is very good for high blood and hypertension people but bad for those who had kidney problem”. The smell of chicken shit comes from ammonia, the by-product of decaying faeces. High doses of ammonia is toxic but naturally occuring ammonia have never known to be hazardous to health. It usually causes nose or throat irritant and therefore bad for people with respiratory disorder or asthmatic patients. However, it is good as a manure for plants after it has composted. Incidentally, there is more ammonia in your household products such as glass cleaners, metal cleaners, wax cleaners, oven cleaners, etc than that from the surrounding air.

Managed to sneak into the showhouse in PS and peep at the physical layout. Carpenters and landscaping contractors are still busy with the “renovation”. I figure the showhouse will not be ready until end of the month. The outlook is really modern and appealing. Double storey semi-D link master bedroom is a little small. You can convert the family hall to a private study room with access from the master bedroom. That will give you some privacy and a bigger bedroom-cum-studyroom. The double storey semi-D are better in terms of space adequacy for each bedroom. Otherwise, everything else is just great!

@Mark
Me too! Can’t wait for showhouse to be ready. The double storey semi-D link has side land at least 2 feet wider than the semi-D version and the front porch is pretty wide. It should fit 2 cars side by side without any problem. Best yet is the front porch is paved with patterned design and hence no need to spend more money paving tiles. The interior has very high ceiling, so don’t feel claustophobic. This feature compensated for the smaller rooms. The front fascade is simple but modern. Hopefully no wanabe will renovate it into a look alike grand palace with sky-high roman pillars and skyroof, then put out his underwear to hang and catch the afternoon sun !

@Researcher
I am more inclined to agree with you. “lost” version of benefits is too far fetched. Maybe his research was done with granny, before the internet was available. Ha! Ha!

Just visit the site yesterday. Ppl busy in progress busy to complete the showhouse by middle of July. What is the latest price now? The house is wide and comfortable. Just surrouding area not that nice. If Asas Plazza ‘reactivate’ back like last time Queensbay Mall area.. then residency near by will be happy. I think IJM have see something will happen for the Asas Plazza. Hopefully this good point will bring another improvement for Alma market future. 😉

We have Germany, Italy and Spain represented here. Wow! We have winners for Permatang Sanctuary!

Mike :We have Germany, Italy and Spain represented here. Wow! We have winners for Permatang Sanctuary!

u all are developer’s proxies ma, that’s why three of u say good to this project even it is chicken smell, full of flies and bangla there !

@lost
You work for Cian Jia Poultry Farm….afraid of takeover ?

@lost
Maybe a bangla afraid of losing job !

@Mark

tx for the feedback. site visit do reflect the real situation of the development.all we see and observe tell ppl what really happened on site, no just base on what we think about it. there’s a lot of ‘Mayb’here but what i really looking for is how the real site affect your choice. i’ve been to the show house since dey stil under construct, in fact, the room is way jz bit small. but still, hope to see the complete show house soon.

@Chan
Agree with you. When the showroom is complete, we will be able to see how to fit in furniture and fittings and make sound judgement on space utilization. Another good observation…all tiles are 2’x2′ and no parquet is used for upstairs. All bathrooms use tiles up to ceiling height, which is very sensible. Bathrooms as we know are wet areas and tend to form stains on the walls without full height ceramic tiles. Save on renovation. Negative….balcony is too big. If make roof top garden, house will look nice. But if use like utility area to dry clothes, then say goodbye to asthetics.

Mark :@Chan Agree with you. When the showroom is complete, we will be able to see how to fit in furniture and fittings and make sound judgement on space utilization. Another good observation…all tiles are 2′x2′ and no parquet is used for upstairs. All bathrooms use tiles up to ceiling height, which is very sensible. Bathrooms as we know are wet areas and tend to form stains on the walls without full height ceramic tiles. Save on renovation. Negative….balcony is too big. If make roof top garden, house will look nice. But if use like utility area to dry clothes, then say goodbye to asthetics.

Agreed with you. Balcony is even bigger than master room. Make no sense.