@Chow Tar
You are right. After location, the second criteria is who is your neighbor….

@CommonSense Buyer
@Perak Road
I think SPI vs Setia Green is really a personally choice as it is hard to find a very reason why one must be chosen vs the other. Of course speculators/investors would say otherwise depending on which one they own. In terms of security, I believe SPI phase3 (Isle of Cornifer) should eventually be ok after tenants moved in those multi-millions bunglow. I guess security would be one of the top concerns for those millionaires,

@onered86
Strictly speaking, the play ground is owned by public, not SPI. So called lower class people, foreign workers are also people like us. Their children should also have the chance to have fun. As long as they are not creating troubles, nothing wrong with that. Ya, it could feel uncomfortable, including myself, but taking one step back, I think we should appreciate we are lucky enough to be able talking about close to 1mil properties here than worrying about $ everyday.

Sore Hai :
@onered86
Let me know if you find one at this price…. I want to be as lucky as you…. Sore Hai

Unless the owner seriously gets burnt, or for some unforeseen reasons, it would need to be very lucky to get one of these newer houses at 800K+ now. SPI and Sathu@1R (cheaper than DuaVilla) asking price I think is 900K+ nowadays. Setia Green, pretty much no one would sell below 1mil coz the buying price is already 800K+.

May be Setia Vista deeper inside Relau? Other alternatives are 2nd hand houses of 10+ years, there should be some available at this range.

@J
I think nearly everyone at Setia Greens bought at 900k+….the most expensive for the terrace units are the Codia designs…. Setia sold them at RM988k as these were the largest (3200sq ft) and had ‘specials’ like roof top garden and outdoor shower

Sore Hai :
@Chow Tar
No wonder you Chow Tar… landed will appreciate faster than condo…. in the end you hold condo while you see the landed prices shoot up….. you stand below and become chow tar

buy Setia Reflection condo 2 units at RM400+ = RM800K+, now selling RM650K each = RM1.3mil. Buy Setia Green 900k+ now cannot get buyers at RM1.3mil. You know how to do the math not? No wonder you Sore Hai…

@Chow Tar
Up to you…. do what you think is right Chow Tar…..all the best, yours Sore Hai

Condo shud be compare with Condo. different species la!

we shud focus on the landed to landed comparison in the surroundings area…..and i meant it for OWN STAY. hence safety, security, traffic must be considersations too.

Eg, we compare SOuth Homes, SPI, Merica, One Residence, etc. Which more value for money and liveable in long term.
I dont mind the sellers and agents try to hard sell this project as long as there is real substance and facts. so far i saw mostly are buyers subjective comment and some based on feelings.

Frankly i try to struggle to find good points to convince my wife to buy Setia Greens. i like the house and inside project itself but beyond that i still wonder…..

@onered86

Setia Pearl Island is not full of foreigners. It is the opposite side of Persiaran Kelicap where RID is currently at coz of the low medium cost houses. SPI is really nice if you were to go and see their area.

J :
@CommonSense Buyer
@Perak Road
I think SPI vs Setia Green is really a personally choice as it is hard to find a very reason why one must be chosen vs the other. Of course speculators/investors would say otherwise depending on which one they own. In terms of security, I believe SPI phase3 (Isle of Cornifer) should eventually be ok after tenants moved in those multi-millions bunglow. I guess security would be one of the top concerns for those millionaires,
@onered86
Strictly speaking, the play ground is owned by public, not SPI. So called lower class people, foreign workers are also people like us. Their children should also have the chance to have fun. As long as they are not creating troubles, nothing wrong with that. Ya, it could feel uncomfortable, including myself, but taking one step back, I think we should appreciate we are lucky enough to be able talking about close to 1mil properties here than worrying about $ everyday.

Just wish to comment on some of yours statement.

Ashley Green by BSG having break-in/ snap (etc…) almost weekly. So, not necessary expensive property will have better security.

It is nothing wrong if the playground is public and inviting foreigner (btw, I am not sure foreigner pay tax?). But with the crowd, it is easier for someone to take opportunity in that area.

CommonSense Buyer :
Condo shud be compare with Condo. different species la!
we shud focus on the landed to landed comparison in the surroundings area…..and i meant it for OWN STAY. hence safety, security, traffic must be considersations too.
Eg, we compare SOuth Homes, SPI, Merica, One Residence, etc. Which more value for money and liveable in long term.
I dont mind the sellers and agents try to hard sell this project as long as there is real substance and facts. so far i saw mostly are buyers subjective comment and some based on feelings.
Frankly i try to struggle to find good points to convince my wife to buy Setia Greens. i like the house and inside project itself but beyond that i still wonder…..

Actually, depend on your initiative. From investment point of view, $$ is the matter, be it condo, landed or shop lot. Investor just see the ROI.

Setia Green is not bad la, why your wife don’t like? The surroundings and location?

@Bryan
Nice place really….go see for yourself

Location wise ok and i again agreed it feel nice.
Long term surroundings still UNSURE….

Having stay in KL, I used to visit many housing projects. Some of those gated (non-strata) community still struggle to survive mainly due to fees and nearby outsider complain to councils so that they can enjoy. For individual The roads belong to council and not the project.

Then I see this most famous project with strata G&G eg http://www.desaparkcity.com/. I found it very safe secure and the price can be as much as 100% higher than neighboring individual title Taman. Of course our strata is not exactly same since we are just small island.
But in here Penang it is opposite case? Why? Too many “Niau Siau” people here?
I heard Dua villa have the sinking and crack but how about Sathu and Tree? Any major problems?

Bcoz we still don’t understand why it is cheaper? Hence we still find out why.

MacD and better commercial also on the SPI Setia Triangle, One Residence area….which are some similarity to airport city concept I have seen in many parts of the more developed countries. I try to draw some parallelism here. But the lower price is telling me something is not right or the people here are just shortsighted? just goin conventional?

We love the fact that SG is near to the forest and hills. But the road heading seems unconvincing. The Semi-D ZanVilla just outside SG are simply rented out to foreign workers….hope the same fate would not befall on SG.
The arguments that bcoz SG buyer buy higher so must sell higher don’t hold the logic in long term if u compare with other projects.

That’s why I said as we can see here it is mostly based on feelings and subjective views. New environment sure nice la But The facts and calculators telling otherwise. Of course it is a good project but the question is it worth the 1.2~1.3M tag?

Unless there are hidden points I haven’t uncover yet….please enlighten me. I m a truth seeker.

@CommonSense Buyer

SG is not gated and guarded? Is it safe for own stay with so many foreigners hostel nearby?

@CommonSense Buyer

My point of view, 1 Residence price lower mainly because of the landed G&G concept is still new in Pg. Majority ppl do not want to pay maintenance fee if already spend so much to buy a landed property, and also prefer to do extensive renovation which is not allowed for strata title landed. Besides, Ideal is not a prefered developer compared to SP Setai, Mahsing, IJM…… Of course, by the bird view without considering the actual traffic route, the location also further away from Bayan Baru town.

no.. 1 residence is cheaper becoz of it build on non stable land…
you can see the dua villa house sinking issue and also serious crack on 1 & 3 TR…..

no one would buy this house if they have choice…

Regardless of all these endless discussion about who is good and who is not so good…. I think as a buyer and now owner I am 100% very happy with Setia Greens and does not matter what others think….. looking forward to moving in in two month’s time…. yipppie!!

ilovenajib :
no.. 1 residence is cheaper becoz of it build on non stable land…
you can see the dua villa house sinking issue and also serious crack on 1 & 3 TR…..
no one would buy this house if they have choice…

Setia Green is more expensive because some one like @Sore Hai think it able to sell more expensive just because it is branded…

@Joshua Ong
That’s the right way of thinking! Be happy and proud with your purchases whether is SG, SPI, OneR, etc… Speculator and investor most likely to cause disharmony.

@Joshua Ong
When house warming? Let’s celebrate together

Is SG land stable, any landslide risk?

@ilovenajib
Jib Kor fren,

Hmm…..pls advice which part or unit that you mentioned have serious crack in Sathu and Tree?
Dua Villa certain unit, i know la…but this is something new…….i wan to get agent to bring me in to check again that area or zone that have crack.

Hope it is not the case of not able to eat grape, but complain it is sour…..hehehe….Joking only.

@Bryan
Bryan,

U just bring up a good point. SG is not a compulsory scheme. if suddenly more and more residents refused to pay, then it may not work, right? they are not tied to the rules.

Then, i was shown by my friend on Sunway Gambier (also individual title gated ) whereby owner can even turn to MOTEL?!
http://archives.thestar.com.my/services/printerfriendly.asp?file=/2013/1/28/north/12633471.asp&sec=north

i think, Govt shud come up law for gated community with some rules for residents too to safeguard everyone interest.

I have one unit at 35 Jalan Sg Ara 2 DS Semi D want let go with price 1.2mil. Land area 4000sf and well maintained. For those who have interested, pls do not hesitate to contact me. Tq
016-4037899

Where is the exact location for this project?

The reason why One Residence is cheap because Ideal has not do enough to gain back people’s trust.They have improved on project delay, but still not dare to guarantee the end product with nice layout per the showroom by including dimensioned layout in SnP. And it is still well known that people linked Ideal’s projects with gangster contractor problems. You may pay cheaper upfront but later may cause you a lot during renovation. I am still waiting to see whether Ideal to prove them clean for gangster contractor problem in the flagship 1R projects.

@Setia Green

Have you heard of gangster contractor problem in SG also? Please share.

@CommonSense Buyer

Ppl are used to the current living way. They willing to spend money on higher fence, CCTV, alarm, drill, but not maintenance. Unless the security becomes more and more alarming from day to day. For example the case of a semi-D project at Bkt Gambier, majority of the units are having the break-in experience, force the residence to meet up with the police chief inspector to request for solution.

I believe the G&G concept will be more and more popular in Pg.

About the land sinking at Dua Villa, please update me if you have more finding. As far as I know, this is not land sinking issue but just that the land have insufficient time to be stable. The crack is between the main house structure and the car porch/ back yard. And only part of Dua Villa having this problem. No problem found in Sathu, but not sure about Tree.

@Bryan
G&G is not a new thing to Penang. It was introduced years back in mainland. It may sound better security with G&G concept but still in KL there are break-in for G&G. Nowadays in KL G&G not only wall-up but also barded with wire and spotlight spotted on the walls. Better alarm your house with high quality security system in house rather than depending on the guard and wall.

Ok. thx Bryan. Minor problems I don’t mind as we can get developer to fix but if serious crack like DUA villa of course cannot la.

Frankly I don’t buy the idea that reputable developers and hence affect the subsale pricing must pay more?
The no. 1 concern of developer reputation is when you buy NEW project, which we concern they cannot complete and deliver. Once they completed does it really matter a lot?
After years, who bothers the developer of Island Glades, Sg Dua, Taman Sri Nibung etc?

Any way as I toured SPI Phase1 I also noticed many of the original house paint already start to degrade too. even the University Place condo which is older are in better condition. Hence personally developer matter most when u buy new yet to construct.

@Ideal

SG is not G&G? Any facility?

@Ideal

When we say new, not necessary referring to the time. Every community needs different time to accept new things. As majority new landed projects in Pg are still non G&G, so I still considered it as a new concept.

No doubt that G&G do not guarantee a safe place, but just a safer place. To me, best security system is always a system that harder to break-in compared to neighbors.

@CommonSense Buyer

I do agree that some reputable developer do provide a slightly better quality and better service (maybe), just that the premium needed is too high. So, I always look for big and cheap property, and I always prefer a new township development such as SPI, 1R….. where the surrounding environment and development are more or less a certain factor.

@CommonSense Buyer
By the way, out of all SPI phases, phase 1 is probably of slightly lower workmanship. I heard from agent phase 2 was a different contractor, and due to good work, was also awarded phase 3. I couldn’t verify how true it is, but if your budget is ~1.3mil, it is better to have look at options of all phases.

@Bryan
It is so sad but true that security is such a big selling point for G&G (and being charged a premium especially in KL). At those Western cities I had been to, 99% of people don’t even install grille at dodgy area. To them, I think G&G selling features are more like facilities than security … Wondering when will M’sia, or at least PG reaches that state?

Hello all,
I’m an owner of TR. Main reason I chose TR,
1. G&G. Even though not perfectly safe, but relatively safer.
2. Double storey vs 3 storey. Depends on people.
3. I want to have at least 22′ width.
4. Even though a bit further away (by Penang standard), the access is quite good. You got few options.
5. It is not built by big taikor like SP Setia, which would mean lower premium.

I’m not trying to be biased, but crack on a wall is not that uncommon. As long as not on the main structure, then it might not be that bad. My friend have a unit in SPI phase one and he mentioned that his house start to get bad cracks. He guessed mainly due to constant piling on subsequent phases in SPI

@kotun
It may be lower upfront premium compare to taikor developer like SP Setia, but have you factor-in the premium to the “taikor” later when doing renovation?

I am very satisfied with my unit….. hurray…. waiting to move in…. no grilles! Do not want to live in a prison….

@Setia Green

Setia Greens also has “taikor” contractor? Can we lodge police report?

Being in the financial circle, I start to understand why my Sourcing division prefer Private Limited (S/B) over PLC supplier. In fact they prefer a localize supplier. I try to draw another parallelism here.

Those Big TAIKOR from KL, being a listed company and such a big troop of management team, not to mentioned the heavy advertising, big cars and the sponsor for those concerts etc….u can guess where the money come from? Jib kor or buyers? 
They have many shareholder and they need to show their good performance and profit margin in order to be under stock analyst radar….so that the share can increase and the main shareholder/director can be increased. Will u do the same if u r the CEO? …..i suppose some of u getting to the point closer now.

Anyway my point is here that subsale is irrelevant NOW in after completion situation.
But it is a factor on the higher price buyer paid during direct purchase with SP. If u happy to pay higher then just go ahead. Nothing to say whether some1 is smart or not.

Anyway on Gangster renovator, I ask around they said owner free to choose contractor. Their Datuk seems to move towards Cleaner image and appear frequently in Paper and in govt initiative. They wan to risk our powerful RAKYAT voices and with internet age?
This is G&G landed not difficult to go against them as there is NO LIFT They can block like in Condo? Well it is a good point for me to check out though.

Again the point here so far are rather subjective, perception based and some historical data and less forward looking. No one yet to compare land, BU, details costing, etc…I not willing to pay RM200k extra for some so called better quality.

Anyway still few weeks for me to shop around . Let’s have more people try to shoots the bull eyes!

@CommonSense Buyer
Very simple.
If you have money, then better buy from SP Setia.
If you cannot afford, then just buy from Ideal even though everybody knows that Ideal quality is the worse.

@CommonSense Buyer
Listed company & Sdn Bhd got its pros and cons lah.. Sdn Bhd can just easily close shop if things are screw up and “nama busuk”, and then can just simply start up as another new Sdn Bhd again.. people may still buy provided selling cheap cheap and make a nice display model for the project. To me it is the end result/product that count…

Most of the people are willing to pay for the extra for the quality.
I am driving a Honda CRV even though Proton is very much cheaper.
But I will never consider Proton in my life or Ideal in this case.
If you are willing to spend so much money, it is always better to go for the extra quality and brand reputation.

Any observations, I notice here is that mostly the SG supporters in this forum are the stay-in buyers hence I will understand their feelings. I don’t mean to hurt them. if i were them i wud support all d way!
Congrats for a good choice u made earlier!

Well…..I try to get the sellers/investors to talk but so far they r pretty quiet or no “bullets”.
i am trying to get very specific info reply for the benefits of all….as i believed many are professional FTZ engineers/managers.

Noted IDEAL office get bigger now…..even Maybank also want to do their business now. In Finance that means something.

For people who want to buy and still considering, I suggest you see the units yourself and decide yourself. Take a drive around SPI, 1R and Setia Green. Decide yourself and you can judge the quality yourself as well. It was love a first sight when I drove around 1R area the first time.

Setia Green :
@kotun
It may be lower upfront premium compare to taikor developer like SP Setia, but have you factor-in the premium to the “taikor” later when doing renovation?

If I’m right, Dua Villas has no gangster contractor. Read it somewhere in a forum. Hopefully it will be the case for TR. And as far as renovation, for my unit type, minimum is required (eg hacking wall and etc).

@CommonSense Buyer
I have recently just purchased a property in 1-R through subsale after few months of surveying. I wasn’t really looking into the surrounding but more of the land area. It is a known fact that land is scarce in png, hence i am riding on that to decide on this purchase.I did make comparison on the other subsale around sg.ara area and so far the cheapest that i can find is 1-R with regards to price per sq ft and also age of the houses. I am taking risk though on the quality but i guess that it is just a ‘give and take’ matter.

@CommonSense Buyer

If your wife still don’t like Setia Green, how about Southbay?

The asking price is too steep in SB. Furthermore less Greener. in fact quite hot that area.
the second link networks can be a risk factor. backyard common lorong too small….

Since ppl sems to be so Anti-IDEAL.

let’s ask the SG buyers, what will be the price u will pay if One Residence is build by SP Setia?
wat is the price u wiling to pay your 3ST if build by IDeal?

@CommonSense Buyer
I have to agree that One Residence is at more strategic location and the DST design is better. But it is about peace of mind. I don’t want to worry that what I get is not what I see at the nice showhouses, and most of all, I don’t want to have the hassle and nightmare during renovation of the house. (check with Bryan on I-Regency!). Whether it is first hand or subsale, the first 2 years may suffer the gangster contractor problem, which make it hard to justify the additional premium needed, said for a renovation of RM150k market price. IDEAL still need to clean their name and prove themselves. I am waiting to see how will be Tree Residency & Fiera Vista since they claimed those are flagship projects.

123residence have gangster contractors… They boss name is fan.. And their workmanship suck like shit.. Be pretty to pay the hefty renovation price and inferior quality..

Typo.. It’s faan

@CommonSense Buyer
Honestly if you really like green, the two sites closer to green is SPI phase3 and SG, and probably SP Vista (which I guess out of your consideration). For Ideal, I skipped last time due to the bad reputation, and was hoping I could get other landed rather than tied up the cash. The only regret I have now is I didn’t secure one and sell it, :).

Anyway, here is a comparison between OneR and SPI phase3 in my opinion. SG, not a bad choice, I quite like it but relatively more expensive (vs the time I bought mine). These are facts and choosing one vs another is personal preference. I am not trying to promote SPI or OneR vs others.
1. SPI is at a much higher ground, but whole OneR is slightly below the main road
2. SPI is slightly closer to green, and with nice view from the “Rock”
3. SPI is at ~250K more expensive, not too bad considering the land (22×80) and build-up (~3300)
4. SPI is of better quality vs Sathu, and DuaVilla. TR not sure.
5. No TR unit at good location available from developer and sub-sale (not ready)
6. OneR has better road access
7. SPI workman ship is better than OneR for the units I had checked.
8. Suspecting OneR may give more long term trouble (some Dua Villa sinks, the drainage of Sathu can already see some “rust water” coming out from nowhere at the small drainage behind the houses. Erosion of iron somewhere?
9. OneR has better security, but at a cost
10. SPI is closer to low cost (opposite)
11. OneR although has big build-up (~2400?), but relatively do not give a “wow” factor, somehow. I have to admit this is subjective though.

More importantly, my wife prefers SPI. So, done deal,

Can anyone here recommend a good contractor for fish pond? Thks

@A
But considering current terrace prices, Setia Greens is no longer expensive or is it still?

@Candy Crush Champ
This is a subjective question. Just like some would say buying branded clothing at a discount is cheap, but it might not be in reality. If u ask me, many current houses are selling at a future price becoz the environment encourage speculation more than real investment. Now, how many years in future, No one knows for sure. If assuming average income is 6000 per household now, we are probably talking more than 5 years. Yes, i think i bought at a premium but at one point, u just need to make the decision. Personally i think there are other choices at this price point. But if u do like SG and has the budget, ok for own stay. Investment risk too high to me.

if you like greens, don’t mind the terrible traffic, and surrounding by many LMC/condo, and foreign workers – then Setia Greens
if you want to have good traffic access, schools, new township, and don’t mind the build quality and potential hassle of gangster contractor, then 1R. May be Bryan can share more about the problem of gangster contractor from his experience, and the “premium” he had paid.

Chow Tar :
if you like greens, don’t mind the terrible traffic, and surrounding by many LMC/condo, and foreign workers – then Setia Greens
if you want to have good traffic access, schools, new township, and don’t mind the build quality and potential hassle of gangster contractor, then 1R. May be Bryan can share more about the problem of gangster contractor from his experience, and the “premium” he had paid.

I thought 1R is opposite SPI and have to pass thru the cemetery? I thought there is LMC also besides 1R? The traffic is better than SG? 1R is new township & SG is not? Your comments are quite confusing…..

@Setia Green
@Chow Tar

As both of you quoted my ID, I think you are expecting me to write something here…..

Well, long story short. Yes, there was gangster contractor in I-Regency, but the true story is, victories went to those residents against them. After 1 year, we have the 1st AGM and formed our own JMB, replaced the management team, and banned the GC from entering our condo. They were not that hard to manage, of course, we have a good leader. I move in within 6 mths after VP, and used my own contractors.

In fact, some owners willing to let them do some renovation, and guess what, I found their quality and design is slight better than mine, maybe just 5~10% more expensive. So, I intent to get a quotation from them if they exist in 1R, but I will not buy the idea that we must get what, what & what from them.

Guys, Setia Green claimed to have no GC, so, we should not discuss this topic further here. I guess the owner have no interest on this. If want to continue, let’s move to other relevant place.

@Question?
Take a drive around the actual sites and you will understand what I mean. Don’t just sit here and ask non-value added questions.

@Chow Tar
You are talking non-value added things over here. This is SG forum & not 1R, so just keep your mouth shut. If you dont like this property, just keep your self out & just go to 1R forum.

@Chow Tar

@Question?

Hi both, we need a mixed of rich and poor in the same area. Multimillionaires in Setia Greens should not worry about the low cost surroundings. We share the same amenities and access. You dont kacau me, I wont kacau you.

CommonSense Buyer :
The asking price is too steep in SB. Furthermore less Greener. in fact quite hot that area.
the second link networks can be a risk factor. backyard common lorong too small….
Since ppl sems to be so Anti-IDEAL.
let’s ask the SG buyers, what will be the price u will pay if One Residence is build by SP Setia?
wat is the price u wiling to pay your 3ST if build by IDeal?

I guess if SPS build a DST at 1R and sell it at 1.2M, people will Q for days to grab their units. This is one of the best location in south west. Easy access to work, schools and shopping. And SPS spent quite some money to brand themselves on national TV and newspaper. No play play for #1 developer in Malaysia.

@A

Hope you enjoy your home at SPI, I have many friends staying there.

Ya, i just couldnt quite understand why some people just want to force their own opinions down others throats. We should respect other people choices, decisions. Some rich people choose to drive proton, what do u call them? Congratulations to all the happy owners. Not matter what other says, u r winners

@J
Well, I own two house in SG (Cassia and Cordia) and drive Proton Exora cos I always bring my my three kids, wife and two parents for makan and holidays…. what does that make me?

@J

You shud understand. Hard sellers will scream out loud to hard sell their house. If the house is in high demand, dun think shud worry that much.

@Simple man

Be humble. Wealthy people dun brag. No need to let everyone know you own 2x SG.

@J

To some people,it’s hard earned money whereas some inherited from
legacy. Living in a million dollar property doesn’t mean rich because one
has to pay back the loan taken and driving a Proton is not surprising.

If one has a few millions deposited in banks, this one is rich. I haven’t
came across such people driving a Proton car.

Truth :@J
If one has a few millions deposited in banks, this one is rich. I haven’tcame across such people driving a Proton car.

Aint that the hard truth.

I agreed with J. Congratulation to all proud future residents (those buy for own stay!) & it is nice piece of property. You don’t need to bother to look at this forum again since already made your choice.
For investment type owners, congratulation if you successful to find buyers and cash out! But if you still holding the properties, please be considerate to real residents if you have to rent out the properties…

@beckscum7

Unless and until you are at this stature, you are not rich.

@Make sense
Like your comment + 1

beckscum7 :

Truth :@J
If one has a few millions deposited in banks, this one is rich. I haven’tcame across such people driving a Proton car.

Aint that the hard truth.

I also agreed. Rich people have too much to lose and most concern about safety/life. They may not enjoy luxury stuffs but safety cannot be compromised. I do not mean Proton is not safe, but of course it is not as good as some famous branded cars.

@Truth
@Chow Tar

Agreed bro.
We dont hear those buying BMW / Merc asking about fuel consumption do we.

@Chow Tar
I agree about those who want to rent out… please choose your tenant wisely to take care of your house and also please think about your neighbours…..I am moving in next month….Changkat Sg Ara 18…. any one in the same lane?

Anyone have any recommendation for good fish pond contractor? Thanks….

@Simple man
I am not sure if you have misunderstood me. I was trying to say I don’t understand why some people keep using, repeating their points to make a given property sounds bad (hardly the other way). If the points have been made, just stop there rather than start attacking each other to force everything down.

There are certainly rich people who still don’t drive luxury cars. In the case, do we call them stupid, non-sense because they choose not to choose so when they can easily afford? No.

The key point is we should respect each other choices, make your points and stop there.
I think it is great u r able to own 2 houses and drive a relatively cheap car. Honest.

@J

Wasn’t that you did the same? Take it easy.

@Make sense
I think I had better keep my mouth shut and stop commenting anything. I can only say after about 2 months participating in penangpropertytalk, i feel we are still long way to go from being a truly good country.

Someone else may use J (I have seen it b4), but I will keep my words and stop here.

@J
Do not take to heart…. please continue to contribute……

I think you agree that Setia Greens is a really nice place to live in

J :
@Make sense
I think I had better keep my mouth shut and stop commenting anything. I can only say after about 2 months participating in penangpropertytalk, i feel we are still long way to go from being a truly good country.
Someone else may use J (I have seen it b4), but I will keep my words and stop here.

I totally agree with you. I also dont know y certain ppl keep on saying bad things about others & keep saying their is good. Everyone have their own preferences & choices, if u dun like this & that, just keep yoursel out of it, dun act like u r the expert.

Certain ppl can said owning luxury car is high class, some will said they r stupid…..nothing is perfect & no human are the same lah…choose your choice & dun give bad comments on others…

@Question?

This is Penangpropertytalk if you still wondering where were you.

@Make sense
Talking to wood…so kesian u.

Question? :
@Make sense
Talking to wood…so kesian u.

So quick start personal attack ka? Hai, this fella really hopeless…

Buying property is a more of science (fact, calculations etc) rather than art…..

When we used too much of emotions (feelings etc) and personal then we may not make the most economical judgement.
Believed me, most developers (some even overdone) always make u FEEL nice of the property to make our emotions (ladies especially) us trap…..of course with your money. Even some of my dear engineer also loss their basics mathematics equations….just signed.

Past records is just like history, it is a good reference and reminder to us…..if I buy from Ideals I sure would also raised my concern to them but now SUBSALE la…even LI Ka Sing Built also I don’t care la. If we always stick to history then it would be like the SULU case la because historically Sabah it WAS owned by them. LET’S MOVE FORWARD!

Let’s do some mock survey in this forum for today subsale market IF:
1. Setia Green build by Ideals: RM…..
2. One Residence, Sathu Build by SP Setis:RM….

Let’s take some fun time….dun be too serious is shooting each other here. this would make all of us wiser…

@CommonSense Buyer
Move forward? You’ve not been hurt by Ideal before you won’t know.

Most of you know how Ideal did badly on mainland and eventually blacklisted but how many know what really happen and why they are still here.

I also scare la….that’s i m considering subsale. Just Dun buy direct from them la. New buyers with them have to PRAY VERY HARD. Anyway, On Mainland project is it his father project?

Anyway, that’s why lots point here raised by the SG owner or the Pro SG group is more relevant if i buy NEW. of course if developers wise definitely SP much far better. on the other hand, i just cant swallow having pay 20% extra too.

I here to dig info and facts that can guide me. It is simply too bad that the OLD SCARS too deep.
if there is strong case, then legal way can b an option.

@Ideal burnt by @Ideal long long time ago. Right or not? Mind share which project?

@CommonSense Buyer

Subsale:
1. Setia Green built by Ideal: RM850k due to its location and surroundings
2. One Residence, Sathu Built by SP Setia: RM1M due to SP setia 10% brand premium.

@CommonSense Buyer

If you really like to continue playing this game, let me join you.

If Setia Green built by Ideal, even current price ~1M also, I may not consider it. 1st because of the location and also I do not really prefer the surrounding. This is almost similar scenario with Siera 81 offering 850K when I visited a unit there 6 months ago. Btw, the quality and design of Siera 81 are actually worst than One Residence.

If One Residence built by SP Setia, I would like to buy it but most probably I will not afford. In general, strata title landed is more expensive than individual because the price you pay including the facilities. You are not only own the house but having a share of everything, including the roads and lamps. No idea of what is the price but I guess slightly more expensive than SPI with similar size.

I do not mean to critic SG but I guess CommonSense Buyer is evaluating the pros and cons of both project, I only could comment on One Residence as I already choose it with a few reasons and the key one are:
1. Heng Ee primarily and secondary school will be built with inside One Residence. This is very important to me as it will save me a lot of hassle during the 12 years education of my 2 children.
2. A new market/ hawker center to be built in the same piece of land too. This is equally important to me and we cook for our dinner, and my retired parents prefer a morning walk to the market to buy us a breakfast during weekend.

Yes his father project. If you were to ask me, i will choose over 1R over SG but when comes to condo, preferable Reflection/Pinnacle over FV/OI.

@Bryan
1. I am not sure all will like the idea of having primary and secondary school. For me, i would prefer away from school as traffic and noise issue. But it would be still convenient for those who have kids. Will subsale price affected by this i am not sure. But south sg. Ara still have Chinese school right and upcoming school plan beside OI by Ideal.
2. Yes, 1R needs some market/hawker center as south sg.Ara not much of kopi tiam around. As for current location SG, traffic is bad because packed with hawker center; Pisa Corner, HOPE clinics, restaurants, market, and not to mention upcoming golden triangle.

Just my thoughts. If the economy still vibrant, both location sub sale will be good as well. Nothing to argue abt.

I will not be selling…. give SG another 5 years and the terrace units will be worth at least RM1.6 mil – RM1.8 mil easily……

@CommonSense Buyer
The risk of buying newly OC/VP subsale from Idea’s projects is not much different from buying first hand. You still cannot run away from gangster contractors, which need to factor the premium into the purchase price. You only safe from “GC” if buying after 2 years.

Thx for the points and good sportmanship!
Hope all the future plan turn true.

Hmmm…so now is potential GC issue in One residence. will recheck, as last visit I was told by the Chinese Uncle (work for renovation company) himself that there are not the appointed.

Will go on the ground again on weekend and do on site survey and perhaps asking the residents there.

In fact on SG areas, I may need to ask the foreigners (there are also residents ma!) there too on why they choose this area not others…..but scare if I ask the Vietnamese girls, they thought I ask for “extra service” charges pulak. Some can speak mandarin. 

By the way, hopefully by tomorrow, i hope i can share the valuers review on both projects.
that will give more professional data.

@CommonSense Buyer
Yes… that will be good…..post the valuer comments tomorrow for all to see….. thanks

i shud try….

As our discussions get more interesting there are also an OFFLINE platform in THESTAR that debating on G&G and Guarded scheme…..u can see wat are the issues and views from the others states.

U could read inside the link below

Benefits of guarded communities
(http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/4/4/focus/12924011&sec=focus)

Guarded communities are now bolder in enforcing own rules (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/22/focus/12871246&sec=focus)

@Ideal

There are only 1 Chinese Secondary school in Southern area, Phoh Tay, who only recruit 300~400 student yearly out of the 1000~1500 primarily students in this area. Heng Ee is a better well known than Phoh Tay. If the Jit Sin secondary school can be used as a reference, it is benefiting the property price in Seri Rambai. My initial intention is to buy Harmoni Residences or Orange Villa so that we stay close to Jit Sin. Now One Residence come with the similar condition to me. Anyway, this is only my criteria. Everybody go for landed will have family and children. If just single of couple with no plan for children, condo is a more suitable living place.

The market referring to wet market. The nearest wet market to SG is Sg Ara wet market and upcoming 1 besides PISA Corner. Both are not walking distance. Similar to hawker center.

@Setia Green

Sathu OC close to 1 year. Another ~months of transaction procedure, the GC long gone.

@CommonSense Buyer

Some residents may avoid telling the true if there is GC. If you able talk to their JMB chairman, you will able to get a valuable information.

Can any one tell me what is the latest property transaction in Setia Greens? Can foreigner (MM2H) buy? Thanks. Susan (UK)

@Bryan
Agreed, it’s matter of individual preferences and also i don’t plan my kids go to chinese school :). I am not so lucky to have landed property in both 1R or SG. Just the sad part is in this tread that never ending attacking from one another. SG buyer will say 1R abt land sinking, gangster contractor, low quality meterial used, etc. while 1R buyer will say SG abt pricey, bad location, foreigner issue, etc.

Therefore, this would be my last comment here. I don’t wish to hurt any party here as i don’t owned both property as i am not afforadable. You guys should have consider yourself so lucky to own SG or 1R. There are still many poor guys and family which are unable to have so.

Anyway for those genuine buyer, wish you all have a nice house for your family and for investor, may your investment are fruitful all years long.

@Ideal
Ai seh man Ideal…. you really gentleman la…. good for you

One gone one left, There is another one talked most are not even have guts to sign the SNP after so long, somemore come to here talk like he is owner of SG.

@Susan Hoy
The minimum price for foreigner buying landed is RM 2 millions. If you are MM2H visa holder, the minimum is RM500k. So, you can buy Setia Greens which transaction around 1.15-1.2mils.

http://www.mm2h.net/program-incentives/

@PBBinvest

But as my understanding to be specific it is for Penang’s Island INDIVIDUAL title landed only for the RM2Mil cap for foreigners. For strata property 1mil cap.

That’s why (one of the reasons), Southbay (perhaps E&O) too that Singaporean and China buyers also jump in there and causing price to shoot up to ~RM1.3M (in China city u buy flat only). (Tambum Indah shud lure them to Batu Kawan la)

But Mahsing did quite a lots of international marketing to attract foreigners. Sg Ara are still unknown to foreigners and are not marketed in international expo. cant imagine price if they come in to One Res projects….

It is very shock and strange to see the comparison in this forum.
So many 1R owners try to compare 1R to SG, but the level different for both property are too wide.
1R is generally known as low end property, bad quality by unethical developer. It is very funny so many 1R owners come into this SG forum and try to make the comparison.
Pity!!!

Real Bryan :
It is very shock and strange to see the comparison in this forum.
So many 1R owners try to compare 1R to SG, but the level different for both property are too wide.
1R is generally known as low end property, bad quality by unethical developer. It is very funny so many 1R owners come into this SG forum and try to make the comparison.
Pity!!!

Pity and kesian others again? This is Penang Property Talk if you still lost in space.

let people voice up….REAL GOLD DO NOT AFRAID OF FIRE (Chinese idiom translate) 

This is New Malaysian style ma…..if we don’t compare how we know we are good?
If we just compare Malaysia govt within Malaysia we can’t see much difference, but if we compare with other countries then we can see la.

That’s why we need to travel abroad and research then only we know whether our property industry is up to mark.

Anyway, again and again…..pls provide factual data. How low quality it is now? I wan to know, as it help buyers.
dun again used “SULU style” refer to I-regency, BM projects la.

CommonSense Buyer :
@PBBinvest
But as my understanding to be specific it is for Penang’s Island INDIVIDUAL title landed only for the RM2Mil cap for foreigners. For strata property 1mil cap.
That’s why (one of the reasons), Southbay (perhaps E&O) too that Singaporean and China buyers also jump in there and causing price to shoot up to ~RM1.3M (in China city u buy flat only). (Tambum Indah shud lure them to Batu Kawan la)
But Mahsing did quite a lots of international marketing to attract foreigners. Sg Ara are still unknown to foreigners and are not marketed in international expo. cant imagine price if they come in to One Res projects….

I think this is just implemented last year on Pg property, strata 500K and individual 1M previously.

CommonSense Buyer :
let people voice up….REAL GOLD DO NOT AFRAID OF FIRE (Chinese idiom translate) 
This is New Malaysian style ma…..if we don’t compare how we know we are good?
If we just compare Malaysia govt within Malaysia we can’t see much difference, but if we compare with other countries then we can see la.
That’s why we need to travel abroad and research then only we know whether our property industry is up to mark.
Anyway, again and again…..pls provide factual data. How low quality it is now? I wan to know, as it help buyers.
dun again used “SULU style” refer to I-regency, BM projects la.

I guess you better stop the comparison now as this already created a tension situation between SG and 1R owner. Better ask SG pros & cons here, and 1R’s at 1R’s forum. I guess the virtual world of Malaysia still not up to the level that you can make SG Vs 1R in SG or 1R forum.

Frankly speaking, if I got RM1 million money to buy landed house. Both 1R and SG I also wont choose.
1R – bad quality from low reputation developer + land sinking problem
SG – location not good, too deep inside.

@ezalor

so what is your choice with 1mil budget?

@MIB
Perhaps Balik Pulau? I really do not understand why you people talk bad about SG…. sour grapes….after seeing how nice it really is now?

I have just realised that there is no water pipe on the rooftop garden. I plan to do some gardening on the rooftop, how am I going to water the plants? Feel dissapointed on SP Setia as how come they can miss such a important thing on their design.
Dear fellow Cordia owners, do we think that we shall request SP Setia to fix the pipe for us?

@ezalor
If SG is too deep inside then why is Pinnacle sold out so quickly, I wonder?

Tau Lau :
@ezalor
If SG is too deep inside then why is Pinnacle sold out so quickly, I wonder?

I guess most of the buyers are buying to flip. 1% downpayment with DIBS, quite irresistable.

@Make sense
And what happens if all try to flip and price stagnates or falls…. panic selling?

@Tau Lau

Maybe.

Flip-Flip lama-lama flip-flop.

That’s happening e.g One World One and One World Two…

Can’t stop people from doing it cause they are making good money out of it.
Unless people start kena burnt kaw-kaw….then nobody dares to flip prop anymore.

Hi, I am interested in SG Cassia unit facing south. Any owner willing to let go? Pls email me at bothezen@gmail.com

Sure!!! If not mistaken the show unit does have water pipe at the root top garden@Cordia

Prices of residential properties in Penang will likely continue to increase this year due to higher land and building compliance costs, according to The Real Estate and Housing Developers’ Association (REHDA Penang).

“The market will stay bullish amid rising demand for houses due to a growing population and rising numbers of jobs,” said Datuk Jerry Chan, Chairman of REHDA Penang, during the opening of Malaysia Property Exposition (MAPEX 2013) held at Penang.

The three–day event was graced by major developers such as UEM Land, Sunway Grand, SP Setia, Sime Darby Properties, Mah Sing Properties and IJM Land.

Overall, MAPEX 2013 witnessed 23 property developers and 40 booths, as well as throngs of crowds. Interestingly, the real estate players were also bullish on this year’s prospects.

Saw they patched the cracks on almost all units backing the main road near the entrance. Look serious. Anyone here impacted?

@Kiasi

If it is hairline crack, then it is normal. Unless you are referring to crack with 2~3mm in width.

Datuk Jimmy Choo, a fashion designer who created shoes for the UK’s royalty and superstars, has recently purchased a RM4.4million townhouse in his home state of Penang, reported The Star.

“This is the first property I have purchased here since I left for Britain as a child. I’m buying a townhouse as my Penang residence.”

“Now that I will have a home in Penang again, I intend to invite all my superstar friends to visit my hometown,” he exclaimed enthusiastically.

Located near Pulau Tikus’ market, the four-storey townhouse is one of the 20 exclusive units offered at The Yeangs Sdn Bhd’s palatial project. Dubbed as the Y Cantonments, the development is expected to be completed by 2015.

Choo’s six-bedroom mansion will come with a rooftop garden and a private elevator made from glass, while the master bedroom will occupy the entire third floor. The townhouse, which has an area of nearly 2,000 sq ft, will also feature a plunge pool as well as an open-air shower and deck.

According to Choo, he chose Y Cantonments due to the project’s sustainable design.

“I am attracted to the eco-friendly elements in the architecture such as the rainwater harvesting system and low energy design,” said Choo, adding that he is on the lookout for several other properties in the state.

Moreover, “Penang has the potential to grow into a world-class economic and education centre,” he added.

@Bryan

I am not sure. Only saw big cement lines on the wall, yet to repaint. Can see from the entrance.

By the Time Build and Sell (BTS) is implemented in 2015 ……
Penang island property will skyrocketing again!!!!
No eye to see……

http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/articles/investment/build-then-sell-will-increase-property-prices-says-noted-valuer/

Any subsale transaction done for this project?

@MIB
I heard that many brokers have approached owners but many are holding on and unwilling to sell…..Place looks nice

@Phillip Dillion

Huge gap on asking price and offer price?

Not sure about price gaps but the general sentiment is “If I sell now, I surely cannot buy back next time’… so with that mentality many are just holding on….must be very rich to be able to hold on like that….

So annoying tis agents! I have to remove their banner from my house…I dont even ask them to sell my plc.

@Johnny
Better dont remove the banner.
So many people were beaten up while removing 1 Malaysia banner recently.

Sungai Ara, stop talking rubbish will ya… Removing banner in our property that was placed without our consent and we will get beaten up? Give me a break….

Please read the newspaper. 15 case for the last 10 days.
The house owners got beaten up badly by BN gangster while removing the One Malaysia banners and flags from their own premise.

I know whats happening, mind you. Do you see any 1 Malaysian flag in SG? There is none and I cant see how your advice is related.
What Johnny is removing is a bloody agent banner…

@Benny

you don’t have a sense of humor. I am not sure you know what I mean.

You guys are too free…… grow up and stop wasting time

@Lim Tua Lat

some guys like to make some joke to cheers people up. some guys are naturally quite. what is wrong for of them? if you don’t appreciate the joke, you just keep your mouth shut.

Hahahahahh…good joke!!!!luckily the “agent” didnt beat me up…

Interested in buying a unit at SG. No agent, pls email : ep_toh@yahoo.com

I am selling my unit at Setia Greens Cassia as per bank’s valuation. Serious buyers please contact me at 168leel@gmail.com.

@KC
How much is bank valuation?

Heard that SP Setia will hire auxiliary police to look after their developed property besides the normal security guards. Setia Green is confirmed as one of the housing area that Setia will put the auxiliary police there. Can they also help to patrol on nearby neighborhood such as Siara 81 and Garden Ville? If not, don’t mention about the social responsibility in the newspaper.

It’s only fair if Siara81 and Garden Ville hire their own guard ok. This is social responsibility alright… This is not charity…. Got it?

@Sungai Ara
What SP Setia offering is beyond what the an average developer would do. If you agree, please don’t condemn on the good motive..

PROPERTY developer SP Setia Bhd celebrated a new milestone with the swearing in of its first batch of 120 auxiliary police officers who will be placed throughout the Klang Valley, Johor and Penang.

The establishment of an auxiliary police force is in line with the developer’s corporate social responsibility of building sustainable communities to improve the lives of residents.

SP Setia president and CEO Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin, chairman Tun Zaki Tun Azmi and Yayasan SP Setia chairman Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye were present during the auxiliary police commissioning ceremony held at the Setia Convention Centre in Bandar Setia Alam, Shah Alam.

Liew presented the awards to outstanding auxiliary police personnel and launched the auxiliary police vehicle while Zaki inspected the line.

Three out of the 120 auxiliary police personnel received awards for their achievements during the three-month training.

They are 33-year-old Mayon Subramaniam, who was acknowledged for his academic results”, Solikin Goris, 33, who received the award for best outdoor trainee while Siti Kurnia Sukir, 20, was recognised as the best overall trainee.

Liew said SP Setia would place 77 auxiliary police personnel at SP Setia housing projects in the Klang Valley while the rest will be stationed in Johor Baru and Penang.

“We want to ensure residents’ safety and the presence of auxiliary police personnel will help to deter crime.

Zaki added that the auxiliary police personnel will have the powers of ordinary policemen.

“Yes, they can arrest people.

“They will also have meetings with the police every month to update them on what’s happening in their respective areas,” he said.

Colleen :
It’s only fair if Siara81 and Garden Ville hire their own guard ok. This is social responsibility alright… This is not charity…. Got it?

Your rrequest reflects badly on you…..you did not work for something good and yet want a peice of it…..Your kids should learn a lot from you and grow up to be like you…..

Rajesh Suaran :PROPERTY developer SP Setia Bhd celebrated a new milestone with the swearing in of its first batch of 120 auxiliary police officers who will be placed throughout the Klang Valley, Johor and Penang.
The establishment of an auxiliary police force is in line with the developer’s corporate social responsibility of building sustainable communities to improve the lives of residents.
SP Setia president and CEO Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin, chairman Tun Zaki Tun Azmi and Yayasan SP Setia chairman Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye were present during the auxiliary police commissioning ceremony held at the Setia Convention Centre in Bandar Setia Alam, Shah Alam.
Liew presented the awards to outstanding auxiliary police personnel and launched the auxiliary police vehicle while Zaki inspected the line.
Three out of the 120 auxiliary police personnel received awards for their achievements during the three-month training.
They are 33-year-old Mayon Subramaniam, who was acknowledged for his academic results”, Solikin Goris, 33, who received the award for best outdoor trainee while Siti Kurnia Sukir, 20, was recognised as the best overall trainee.
Liew said SP Setia would place 77 auxiliary police personnel at SP Setia housing projects in the Klang Valley while the rest will be stationed in Johor Baru and Penang.
“We want to ensure residents’ safety and the presence of auxiliary police personnel will help to deter crime.
Zaki added that the auxiliary police personnel will have the powers of ordinary policemen.
“Yes, they can arrest people.
“They will also have meetings with the police every month to update them on what’s happening in their respective areas,” he said.

The first developer with their own police force! Respect!

So what?
The already very congested traffic will becomes toxic in few years time.
You miss out report by The Edge.

Nearby One Imperial Condo has 700 over units, not over you know. After reading that report, now I understand why put the name ONE
Because coming soon will be, 3 more phases- Two Imperial, Three Imperial, Four Imperial
All with almost similar density- few more hundreds of condo!! Each phase.

Other developers condo??
The traffic will kill you first, I tell you.
Every day, mind you.

Basic rule for good property is :location location location.
You guys think: three Storey landed, three Storey landed, three Storey landed

If too many condos around. Later, the traffic bottle neck will be all time round.
It will not be only morning and after works rush. Go out, struck in traffic. Come back, struck in traffic. Still in palace also no use

But some people think stay in landed is very high class even if the location in traffic congested.
People s choice what, later, people said you sour grapes.
Don’t go any where la. Buy 1 week groceries , supper eat instant noodle la.
People like to lock and stay at home all the time , cannot?

Dell Executive,

I don’t understand what are u actually trying to say…. More so why judge me… If you can’t digest my opinion, you are welcome to disagree, but pls say something intelligent next time…

@Loo
I totally agree with you. Sungai Ara near Pisa area location is not good as too congested.
This is why I bought all my property in Balik Pulau. No many people staying there and no need to wait in the traffic jam

Any reason SPS spend money to hire police to protect Setia Greens houses? Alot of breaks-in is it? Or crime rate on the rise in that area?

@Ah Gu

Not only Setia Greens but all of their projects in Malaysia. People always talk about safety and I think this is why Setia is putting in the extra effort to ensure their purchaser can sleep well as night. I think all the residences will agree with this.

Tan :@Ah Gu
Not only Setia Greens but all of their projects in Malaysia. People always talk about safety and I think this is why Setia is putting in the extra effort to ensure their purchaser can sleep well as night. I think all the residences will agree with this.

Nothing special. Nothing to shout about .This is called Polis Bantuan.
You hired a group of people and send them for few modules training by Police and come back with police uniform. You paid the salary and they are just like the normal security guards under your employment.

I do not know la but thief will target landed property because rich people what.
If they built a fly over by passing all the traffic then, it is different.
You still stuck in traffic when come out and go in. waht is the point? s

@Sama saja
Lots of sour grapes here… guess many living LMC and trying to talk bad about people living in nice landed properties….So sorry for you guys

Super happy as a Setia Greens owner…peace of mind all the time….Will buy Setia projects again soon….

Jensen Tan :Super happy as a Setia Greens owner…peace of mind all the time….Will buy Setia projects again soon….

if indeed super happy, dont even bother to come here and defend and act happy.
why? regret sets in? congestion, surronded by flats, RM800K-RM900K debt to bear, and one more, one guy said many LMC are sour grapes. may be true.
but those staying in LMC flats have better security, sound sleep, than those staying in landed 3 storey . Guess if got thief/break ins, which house will be targetted?
And those LMC poor guys, have no RM800K- RM900K debt to pay for the next 30 years…

@Nathan
Surely you live in a LMC and poor neighbourhood…..tsk..tsk…pity…pity

@Nathan
So pity u…your life must be full of jeolousy & negative thinking.

This is a good effort by SP Setia. Setia owners should be happy.

I hope other developers will follow this good example.

Nathan :

Jensen Tan :Super happy as a Setia Greens owner…peace of mind all the time….Will buy Setia projects again soon….

if indeed super happy, dont even bother to come here and defend and act happy.
why? regret sets in? congestion, surronded by flats, RM800K-RM900K debt to bear, and one more, one guy said many LMC are sour grapes. may be true.
but those staying in LMC flats have better security, sound sleep, than those staying in landed 3 storey . Guess if got thief/break ins, which house will be targetted?
And those LMC poor guys, have no RM800K- RM900K debt to pay for the next 30 years…

Whats wrong with low cost flats surroundings? It is perfectly okay for me.

@kotun
Agree… this will set SPS projects apart from the other developers……

The pond is an eye sore.

It is so dirty & stink.

Can they do something?

@max
Yes..perhaps build a mosque

@Raslan Khairuddin

max :
The pond is an eye sore.
It is so dirty & stink.
Can they do something?

yes, may be change to indah water’s sewage pond…

@max
I think if you put living things there, then it won’t stink so much. I would suggest SG communities to release fish (cat fish, talapia and all) into the pond. And also plants like lotus.

@Raslan Khairuddin
@min
Will the the floating mosque of Setia Greens…. the pride of the community

@Raslan Khairuddin
Is there any truth in the mosque building at Setia Greens? I am thinking of buying a house here… looks nice. Comments anyone? Thanks

@Raslan Khairuddin
Is there any truth in the mosque building at Setia Greens? I am thinking of buying a house here… looks nice. Comments anyone? Thanks

@Ricky Saw
There are no place for mosque. Please see setia green master plan. There are bunch of idiot peoples who like to creates false rumors. Nearest mosque will be built beside OI.

@genuine buyer
Ok. Thanks. I am thinking of buying a landed property. Do you think this place is ok?

@genuine buyer
You info is wrong. It is regulation to have “tempat beribadat” for project of such scale. According to the master plan, there is one near to the Setia Pinnacle entrance.

I’m not Setia Green owner. But if it is landed in Penang, free hold some more, I don’t think tempat beribadat will have so much effect on the price of the property.

@kotun
But people tell me Tanjong Bungha is better than Sg Ara if I want gto buy landed….but it is nearer to my work place and easier reach to the two bridges not to mention to george town…..I am in a dilemma

@Ricky Saw
I think the appreciation is pretty much the same, even though Tanjong Bungah could be a bit higher. Sg Ara will be a place of choice if a few years. For me, I want to be really close to my work place.

The completion of commercial areas, international school, will attract more people to Sg Ara. There will be wet market, Setia Triangle (with confirmed McDonald to be one of the anchor tenant), there will be Solaris next to Tree Residence, and close to 200 shop lots around Ideal Vision park.

I own landed at South Sg Ara, perhaps people from Setia Green green can give you more inputs on Sg Ara north.

@Ricky Saw
Northern area has more schools, more amenities, but I gave up after thinking about the traffic. If I were to buy it, it would be like a “weekend/holiday house”. Not bad actually, but I don’t have the budget or time to maintain a “weekend house”. Unless your work hour is very flexible, then another story …

As for Setia Green, when I inquired at the office about 2 years ago, I was told there might be a “surau”, not firmed up at then. The best is to go to the office, check the master plan and ask, or check if there is any plan submitted to MPPP. The other thing you might want to consider is cracks (quite some houses have very noticeable cracks, but were repaired), if that bothers you. For non-strata, relatively new houses, you may also consider those at Setia Pearl Island, Isle of Cornifer. I believe the Cedar or Casuarina (recently OC) sub-sales should be similar to Setia Green.

And based on my observation, the likelihood of getting false info here is more than real. It is better u do the homework yourself or ask some trust-able friends, colleagues etc. After all, we are talking > 1mil, better go and see yourself than asking around.

owner :
@Ricky Saw
Northern area has more schools, more amenities, but I gave up after thinking about the traffic. If I were to buy it, it would be like a “weekend/holiday house”. Not bad actually, but I don’t have the budget or time to maintain a “weekend house”. Unless your work hour is very flexible, then another story …
As for Setia Green, when I inquired at the office about 2 years ago, I was told there might be a “surau”, not firmed up at then. The best is to go to the office, check the master plan and ask, or check if there is any plan submitted to MPPP. The other thing you might want to consider is cracks (quite some houses have very noticeable cracks, but were repaired), if that bothers you. For non-strata, relatively new houses, you may also consider those at Setia Pearl Island, Isle of Cornifer. I believe the Cedar or Casuarina (recently OC) sub-sales should be similar to Setia Green.
And based on my observation, the likelihood of getting false info here is more than real. It is better u do the homework yourself or ask some trust-able friends, colleagues etc. After all, we are talking > 1mil, better go and see yourself than asking around.

Sorry Ricky, I just realized the way I wrote the last paragraph might sound rude. It wasn’t my intention (blame my half-bake English). I sincerely think you should spend some time looking around than purely relying on some sources which u don’t even know if it is real or false. I think Kotun is a good guy though, .

@owner

@kotun
Thanks for your most invaluable input. I guess being close to work area is important… I can only afford 1 house so I have to choose wisely… big commitment. Thanks again

@Ricky Saw
Is depend what you really like for. Not all place is perfect. Normally peoples would compare Setia Greens with One Residence by Ideal. Much hatred have grown on both threats and would attack from each.

Let me list down the pros and cons base on my own opinions:
Setia Greens (Developer status, quality built, individual title (but some prefer strata G&G concept for better security), longer warranty period. But Setia also demand higher price than others, relau traffic issue, near hill slope.

As for One Residence (It’s G&G is great since you need pay a minor sum of maintenance and while you can enjoy facilities like gym, swimming pool and also better security. But the minus point is you fork out maintenance fees and also you’ve to adhere housing regulations which mean you can’t make a major changes on your house outlook or some even can’t own a pet. One Red location are not fully exploit and with its plan for schools, Hotel, and nearer to Setia Triangle is good for further appreaciation. Access points are better but in future once its developed, trafiic might be a concern again. On the other hand, Ideal did have some land sink issue and quality built. For example cheaper and small tiles, built from sand bricks not clay bricks. But that’s may offset from pricing.

I think both project will appreaciate if the market still positive. Think wise as this is 1Mil commitment.

@prince
Can you highlight where is the tempat beribadat? Setia Green are actually very small compare to One Red or SPI. I believe there will be a small room surau like all condos got. But mosque?
http://www.setiagreens.com.my/intro.asp

@Ricky Saw
as mentioned by @owner, you better check with MPPP if the mosque/surau bother you. If you choose to buy here because near to work place, also advisable you go and experience the traffic there during your normal working hour to your work place. And bear in mind to factor in additional travel time considering those surrounding high rise apartments OC after 2-3 years later.

@prince
Can you suggest a better place then? I work at the FTZ

@Ricky Saw
You might take a look for One Residence. Traffic is better there but with school plan, hotel, upcoming nearby condos sooner will be jam as well. Major jam point will be at Jln Tengah or Bayan Lepas (road to Intel) to FTZ areas or Relau T-Junction for Setia Green. Both are close proximity to FTZ and Setia Green are nearer to town while One Residence is good for frequent traveller (near airport). Setia Greens and One Residence are like brother and sister and people tends to argue which one is better

Ricky Saw :
@prince
Can you suggest a better place then? I work at the FTZ

Probably Bt Maung area? It is very close to FTZ.

Btw, you should list down your budget and other requirements for other to recommend. 1 good property may be not the same for other because of different requirements.

I agree with owner and prince. The best is for you to ‘try’ it first. Take a day off, and experience the traffic, in the morning, afternoon and evening. You might also want to experience the traffic in the weekend. Might not hurt also for you to just park your car by the roadside and just observe. If you have kid, you need to factor in schooling and all.

Don’t rush. Take your time. Again, what’s your budget..?

Another point add to koton’s note: you may also want to try to take a drive/ walk during night time to feel the atmosphere of the surrounding area, or to enjoy the fresh air, probably 7-9pm during working days, and probably 11-12 midnight for occasions like back home late after hang out, or after attending some wedding dinner, etc. I think there is no restriction to visit/walk in since this is not a G&G property.

To clarify. SG is guarded but not gated. There are barriers like plants to wall up but not concrete walls.

Ricky, for freehold new landed houses completed within the past 4 years, in FTZ vicinity, pretty much as below:
strata (G&G): Southbay, One Residence
non-strata (Setia all guarded): Sunway Merica, Setia Green, Setia Vista and Setia Pearl Island.

You may also consider Prestige Heights near the “famous” Bayan Lepas/Teluk Kumbar traffic light. Not that bad actually.

Old houses, there are many more choices like sunway tunas, pantai jerjak etc.

It really depends on your budget and preferences. The new properties mentioned above starting from ~800k (Prestige) and may go up to 1.3mil or even more. Like other suggest, take a day off, feel the environment first. I prefer South Sg Ara mainly because I stay there now, lots of schools, tuition centres etc., pretty much self-sustain township, plus traffic is ok for the hours I travel.

Wow..so many helpful people around….many many thanks…My budget is around RM1 mil but the agent tells me that Setia Greens is going minimum for RM1.1 mil now. I did go around to have a look and the place is not bad actually. I like the unit with rooftop viewing area but that one is being quoted around RM1.3 mil….a bit over my budget and I dun want to burden myself with the extra payment….do you all know any other place with houses having rooftop viewing area like the one at SG? Thanks

Not that I know … except for self-built. I don’t know for SG, but personal opinion is in general, it won’t be much use unless surrounding view is really good, little blocking (e.g. sea view, at higher ground when looking down etc). As such, I believe the view at my condo balcony is better than most of these roof top gardens,

At 1mil, pretty much among SPI Phase1/2, Setia Vista, maybe Sunway, or One Residence. SG i think all asking for > 1mil, but don’t know how many real transactions.

@Ricky Saw
since the roof top viewing area is the most important criteria that matter to you and don’t think other project have it, and yet you are not affordable for the asking price of 1.3mils. The only choice you have is to wait for the sellers to lower the asking price. Well, it may be happen, no one know. No need to ask about mosque, traffic, blah blah blah, since you already made up your mind with the roof top deck.

@ah mau
That is not really my most important criteria…just that I am impressed by it…..so unique…but can live without it……buy something I can afford will be better

@Ricky Saw

In the past, we have a ID called Penang Homes that pretended as a genuine buyer for Setia Green Cordia type. he kept promoting Roof Top feature and open Bath area. Later we realized that he was one of the Cordia owner. Have you change your ID recently?

@MIB
I am new… just moved from KL….my company just transferred me…..

@MIB
BTW who is this Penang Homes…..seller?

@MIB
Can you recommend a good landed house near my work place at FTZ? My budget is around 1mil and since I am new in Penang I need as much help as I can get. Thanks.

@Ricky Saw
go and find some subsale older landed houses at Bayan Baru, Sg Nibong, Batu Maung, Kg Jawa, should be able to get ~700K. Then use RM300k to renovate to what ever roof top garden you like.

@Ricky Saw
This forum has a lot of different people – speculators, real buyers, agents and some multi-role (e.g. buyer+speculator). Without knowing who they are, it is hard to get the real advice since some may have personal agenda to sell the properties.

As I mentioned, for properties completed within the past few years, and near FTZ, pretty much as below:

strata (G&G): Southbay, One Residence
non-strata (Setia all guarded): Sunway Merica, Setia Green, Setia Vista, Setia Pearl Island, opposite Southbay, South Homes

Most of them are asking for 1mil above. If you don’t mind old houses, they are many choices < 1mil.

Just wondering, since u get transferred from KL, probably it makes more sense to rent? Landed rental here is cheap. Or do you really plan to stay permanently (foreseeable plan/future like 10 years) together with your family here?