Tree Residency @ One Residence
“Less is more” is the design philosophy of notable architect Ludwig Mies van de Rohe. With the Tree Residency, the values of minimalism are fully exuded, conveying a sense of harmony that comes from simplicity.
The minimalism in Tree Residency, however, is not one of emptiness, but one that is out of the box, with bold use of lines, geometry and ratio instead of fluff to achieve a clean and elegant look. More importantly, the materials used to construct Tree Residency are environmentally friendly, as such bringing its inhabitants close to nature.
The overall design of Tree Residency is skewed towards garden living, with eight different designs to suit the different requirements of buyers. The club facility of Tree Residency is complete with badminton court, half-sized Olympic pool and other recreational facilities that will bring out the athlete in you.
Location : One Residence, Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : Corner Duplex, Link Duplex, Twin Villa
Land Tenure : Freehold
Total Units: 316
Developer : Ideal Property
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From what I heard, it will be commercial +
hotel. If it is true, it will probably be a 3 or 4 star
hotel.
last checked with sales yesterday, the retention pond is still in the plan, and the hotel/commercial (solaris they call??) also sounds quite firm, where the developer plan to only lease those commercial lot, not open for sales (at least that’s what they have been consistently telling me, same info from different sales person), so as location for SIS, Chung San & Heng Ee also seems confirm d, the Heng Ee model is up at sales office I think, they put beside the master model for Ideal vision park.
What is the price for this property?
@cm
the sales and ideal management also consistently give firm answer that end of june 2013 tree got VP…… frankly, i believe in order to ensure good sales, they willing to confirm everything or anything….. Only time can tell the truth…. In the meantime, we can just hope for the best…..
we hope that everything is furfilled according to plan and what has been promised, my assumption tell me, Ideal would do the best to build up the reputation and brand, don’t forget there is still a mega project in phase by phase (vision park), it is the second large project in penang. IF i were developer, i would do the best out of it. my 2 cents.
Don’t think they has any special intention to build up the reputation. They just do business as normal and profit come first. Before your mega project Vision Park, One residence is the mega project, but still see land sinking issue at Dua Villas. Before One Residence mega project, One World is the mega project but owners still need to face gangster contractor issue. Before One World mega project, there was CEO, I-Regency and none of them were without issues. The key point is, after issues and issues, their property still sold out like hot cake. So, who care to improve?
@Hemsley
Can you share which one of the developer in penang has ever had quality issue, if you came across, please share. Generally, I think that none of developer is perfect but just the matter of service delivery after sell and quality control. it is my personal point of view and did not intend to defend any party either client or developer. my 2 cents
@Hemsley
Typo error with correction and add on.
I agree with you that every company run a business mainly for profit, as i mentioned, it was just my assumption, developer may keen on build up the reputation, to be frank, i have no idea what is their strategy in the market. it is up to them how to play in the competitive market, but i don’t see any reason why they have to be in negative side as there is no benefit for them in long term business, in the end, it will scare customer away. thing will disclose and customer will know.
Can you share which one of the developer in penang has never had quality issue before, if you came across, please share. Generally, I think that none of developer is perfect but just the matter of after sell service. of course, we can’t compare the same quality as in SGP. it is totally difference market. it would be higher price to pay in SGP for the quality you expect. there are many factors constitute for that expectation and result.
It is my personal point of view and did not intend to defend any party either client or developer. my 2 cents
@kotun
That portion Fengsui consideration, is not so important….from one of the master I consulted.
due to linited space Lots of terrace house hv this design. U may wan to check SouthBay design. I see many of them staying there are doing well too. Sunway project too similar. ANyway u can use sliding door too
Basically DUA WAS the hottest cake, the arch DESIGN really nice.
but now seems to be cool off due to concern u may already know. But heard would be rectify la.
Sathu only last few remaining for sale due to more initial buyers for personal stay, prices >$1mil but bigger land than Tree.
Tree heard from office, more investors and hence shud b more for sale, but buying Tree means need to take risks since it is still not compolete yet. anyway risk shub b lower by now.
logical to guess?!
Hello ky,
I’ve been waiting for other people to answer to your questions. Maybe not many property speculators in TR. For the current asking price, you could look in mudah.my. It is hard to say what is the actual price.
But somebody make an offer to me about 2 to 3 months ago. No plan to sell but I still ask how much, and the first offer figure is 990k.
Looking at the future development around this area, I believe I would regret it 3 to 5 years from now, if I were to sell now at 990k.
I personally believe IDEAL is trying to improve their reputation. Taking dua villas as example, what they did is they tear down the whole car porch and put in beams underneath . At least what I see is that they are trying to mend things rather than avoiding the issues.
@Swan
@hi
Hopefully.
@Swan
the keypoint is the hotel and school is just a proposal…… subjected to variable forces and sometimes cannot control by Ideal. But to us and to Ideal, it is a adv for the buying and selling point. In the end, Ideal got nothing to lose………becos it is just a proposal. What i am trying to say is we just need to hope for the best…. At the end of the day, we have nothing to lose too. Important is TR project sucessfully completed till VP, unlike some of my unlucky friends still need to service payment for abandon projects!!.
@Hemsley
All business wants to make honest profit. Very discouraging to see comments as such as when the efforts is being put in place to set the companies reputation on the right track. I am not sure or able to tell if TR would turn out a great place or will have issues brewing when VP is obtained but I am looking forward to stay in TR. Homeowners takes risk in any projects and everyone wants to make the right decision without hiccups. IMHO
Solely my opinion. I believe Ideal is trying to improve their reputation. This is based on my observations.
1. How ‘beautiful’ Sathu and Dua is. Compare to previous project. Love at a first sight for me.
2. The porch sinking in Dua is an outlier errror. Any project, if there is no piling, most probably the porch will sink/crack. Ideal proactive mitigate this. Free rework, and provided warranty.
3. I could be wrong, but seems like on Sathu and Dua have no gangster contracter. I hope this for TR as well.
The hotel is just a plus point if it flies. If not, I’m good with TR as it is. Could not wait to move there.
Seriously – A question was posted earlier, How many genuine forummer in here are planning to stay in TR
It is true that excellent job done by the developer’s designer attracting many new buyers. Not related to the developer reputation. For issue like land sink, they cannot escape. Gangster contractor still exist in One World. If they serious in improving their reputation, there should be no gangster contractor allowed in One World.
I think the hotel is a minus point to this area. It only attract many different strangers to this area.
@Hemsley
I think the hotel would be a plus for TR (if there really will be a hotel). The ‘strangers’ will definitely not Bangladesh or Indonesian contract workers. Say tourists from KL. This will catalyze the commercial activities around it (Solaris?). No matter how many of them, no effect TR as TR is gated and guarded.
The crack porch only happen in Dua Villas, and it is unfortunate. On this point, we have to be fair, as I know SPI phase 1 house (my friend’s), one of the bedroom (main structure and not peripheral structure like car porch) is badly cracked. If not mistaken, gangster contracter some more right?
@kotun
SPI got gangster contractor? Never follow-up that project. No interest.
If 5 star hotel, maybe bring tourist (who want to stay there btw?). If 3~4 start hotel can be any kind of person. Hopefully you will not see tourist buses fetching the tourist back there and just park at the road side at night. Worst if it is budget hotel.
I think the hotel talk is not going anywhere, it is a matter of opinions and ones perceptions. We don’t know if the hotel plan is going to fly anyway. From tourist buses parking by the road side to budget hotel, it is all theoretical. Let’s not worry much.
As owners (??), let’s just hope there is no gangster contractor in TR, and hope the best for TR.
i still have not received billing of 5%/
@kotun
What is the type of your unit being offered with 990k, type 22 or 24?
I agree with you that Sg ara will be the hot spot of location if all the facilities and commersial are delivered as planned, it is well accessible within its own township, buyer is not only buy the unit of house but also enjoying the concept of township, the new concept of future for better living environment with garden, Pond, greeny and etc. i guess that because of environment and it led to good sentiment for enjoyable of living style, it definetely fascinate with this advantage in having a good selling point.
@Swan
Mine is 22.
I also haven’t received the 5% billing letter. Bryan they charge you up front? (just kidding)
@kaki
Ideal know bryan need to move in by year end.
Any unit still avaible?
@elyn wan
I have seen an unit is for sale in sub sale market, please refer to this link.
http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-listing/tree-residence-sungai-ara-for-sale-2382203
@Bryan or others
I wonder that can owner sell his unit in sub sale market even the OC has yet to obtain? what is the legal process and flow? Please advise, thanks
My billing stages:
1 deposit upon signing SPA – 10%
2(a) the work below ground level of the said building …… – 10%
2(b) the structure framework of the said parcel – 15%
2(c) the walls of the said parcel with door and windows frame placed in position – 10%
2(d) the roofing, electrical, wiring, plumbing ……. to the said parcel – 10%
2(e) the internal and external finishes of the said parcel including the wall finishes – 10%
2(f) the sewerage works serving the building – 5%
2(g) the drains serving the said building – 5%
2(h) the roads serving the said building – 5%
Total billing reach 80%. You all different? Gonna complaint to Ideal so that they send you the bills fast. hehehe!
@elyn wan
I think no more. Sold like pisang panas. But you could try your luck by asking Ideal. There could be people who is still waiting for their loan to be approved.
So good price? Mudah is only selling 970-980K.
Really? I thought I am the last one to sign the SPA.
@Bryan
I heard of some bumi release unit already sold with 948k, is that true? what a good price! sell like pisang panas
Yes, 990k. I’m an owner and not speculator. There are few criterias/reasons or usp for 990k to be offered. I saw one unit selling in mudah.my. Description is close to guard house and in front of a garden. Maybe the owner just realize it is in front of a garbage collection area.
Saw the landscaping in TR. Wish the concept “Less is more” apply in terms of tree n plant varieties. Keep it simple n same variety in more areas. Front entrance will be grand if the trees are chosen carefully n well maintained. Now too many & hOpe Ideal monitor this with their contractor.
hi, does anyone know that whether TR will face the same land sinking issue like Dua Villa? I am looking for house, but scare of the sinking issue. Am surprised to find that Dua Villa see the issue within one year of completion. I saw some houses of Pantai Jerejak got this same issue as well, which happened after several years of completion. The prices of those are lot cheaper, but nobody dare to buy. Just worry If TR will face the same issue after few years.
@PS
Some forumers (who don’t own Dua) exagerate the problem by calling it a land sinking, when only the car porch and the back yard sink. This is because the builder somehow did not do piling on the porch and back yard. It has been mitigated and warranty is provided.
When I came to visit TR show house late last year, I saw they were piling the porch area of TR houses. Hopefully no issue on TR.
Sinking is a major problem. Main Issue!! And the scariest part is it can happens few years later. It is now windows water leaking or toiler can flush or doors lock missing, all these the
Warranty can take care. Time to wake up, RM1million property has sinking problem, and you still defend and say ok. Others may not own this property, so what? dont forget we also do not have to bear that few hundreds thousands loan……
Have to pay huge housing loan/morgage for the coming 30 years is teruk…and at the same time has to worry about sinking problem at the same time. Some more, say ok, never mind, I tell you what….even a small hair line crack in the wall if appear 5 years later, you will have sleepless night- continue staying or move out the family for safety?
i can’t disagree with all – sinking is a very serious problem and can not be solved at the later stage if the initial piling is not done properly.. the extra warranty by the developer is just bullshit and the compensation paid may not be sufficient to cover all your losses if this happens in future… hopefully, i pray to god nothing like life loss will happens… sinking may happen in the middle of night while all of your family is sleeping soundly and it’s quite a scary incident.. be wake up and dont fool yourself and justify that you are paying your hard earn money and getting a good deal…
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
yes.. initial stage of ground sinking issue normally happens on the back yard and front porch of the house.. it’s because the the whole house weight in at the center and land sinking underneath will lifted upward the front and back of the house.. if the sinkholes in the middle of house getting more serious, then normally the roof will start collapsing the and the falling debris will put on more weight in the middle and then the most scary part is main building structure like the beams will be weaken and not able to support the weight of the house and collapse altogether..
Bullshit, i bought Bukit Dumbar Residences.
whether initial stage, middle stage or final stage. no sinking.
This sinking problem should not happen even the remote idea of it happening should not even surface. This is not in Lombong (tin Mining) area in Ipoh whereby sinking can be an excuse. Stop bullshitting
Interesting.. Tanjung sri pinang car porch and back yard sink, plus tunami risk still attract so many rich to stay there. TR not even complete already so paranoid.
@PS
One house crack and kitchen are nearly split into two….. have a walk around and see for yourself… scary
Wow….. So many join the party. Go to understand what is the root cause of Dua Villas then come here to comment.
Some more someone mentioning about sink hole….. and call himself engineer. And some one love a jib gor tell the earth quake story, like the house can collapse midnight. And got people can be sleepless because of a hairline crack, better stay in wooden house.
Those ppl must be a failure in life coz without understand the problem, jump straight to the conclusion and comment like expert, engineer, earth quake specialist…… malu lah…..
Paranoid? Humans, dont be arrogant even if you are rich.
Dont under estimate the severity of nature’s induced problem.
How do you know those staying there do not have sleepless nights?
Oh, please, dont tell me you are one of the resident there. The rich and famous from that area dont even bother to come here sembang with us in this forum.
how about yourself? Does nt your hollow comment mirror those people you claim malu.
you and those people are same. sama. dont act as if you are better. i bet you are not even the buyer.
Bee, that Bryxx is not same as the rest … he is rude & arrogant, and thought he is better than the others … he is just some smart axx, which mayb bought TR, n try to pijak on others who just voice out their points, so that he can sell his unit …. coz he himself can’t sleep at nite thinking of the sinking issue
Sleepless night thinking about the sinking issue-yes
sell to others-no, definitely no, would you buy if there is even 0.001 percent of sinking problem in the future? Well, may be yes if whole Penang Island no more house for sale la. So, hold tight with the huge 90% of RM1million debt.
@John
So, that Mr Bryxx will have sleepless nite for 30 yrs, with RM900K debt … Just curious where he will stay for that 30 yrs … TR?
If TR, he can count the crack line on his house for that every sleepless nite. At least some good point for him …
For rest of us who dun own TR (failure in life category), we are so malu coz we dun hav crack line on our wall to count for … we only have good dream …
Quite a lot of responses here. The car porch and back yard crack is ‘unique’ to Dua Villa. No similar problem observed in Sathu. If the LAND SINK, the whole house would crack and sink. Be positive and let’s not hope for that, even though I’m not Dua owner. We gain nothing from other people misery.
If I’m not wrong, from what I heard, it is because no piling on car porch and back yard. I saw it with my own eyes that piling were done on TR.
True, Gain nothing from other people misery
remember also, Gain nothing from trumpeting one’s prosperity.
True, Not every one can afford RM1million landed house or more accurate, not everyone can qualify for 90% of RM1 million loan, but every one is entitled to his opinions and simply labelled those honest negative comments as sour grapes/LMC flats dwellers…well…….
If got problem with the house like sinking or even possibility of sinking, accept the reality and move on
Why? My words make you feel kena shoot? You are like some one I mentioned?
Wonder why your brain can’t work properly. Reserve your brain to think of your own problems. I don’t need your brain to care of where and how I stay.
@kotun
Can share how the piling was done for TR? Found they just put some sort of “wood stick” in the Dua Villa car porch repairing work. Wonder maybe that’s why they only give warranty up to 7 years? Just can’t understand why is 7 years, and not longer term. Just worry what will happen if same case happen for TR, as seem like the confident level is only up to 7 years?
(i am not expert in any area or whatsoever, just would like to find out more info)
Hello Andrew. Good question. For TR they use the piling machine (the one with diesel engine and all, but not the huge one used as in building piling) and definitely not wooden stick. I think the square type cross section.
@andrew
If it is really wood, better watch out for termites and take pre-caution now.
For those who comments and express their worries, thanks. TR is still progressing well and as owners we hope that there will be no car porch and and back yard sinking, as in Dua Villa. I sure hope you (including non owners) hope the best for TR.
Quite negative comments, simply taruh theory and personal attacking wrote in the last few posts. Hopefully ADMIN can intervene and direct the forum onto a more constructive and factual discussion.
Hi
To those people has concern about this project, it is always to be welcome and join in for sharing your thought, it is unwise to comment unprofessionalism by having personal attack, kindly fully utilized the resource and make it a better channel in discussion, we should work together to resolve any issue and align instead of argument here. argument would not solve the issue but create emotional and tension situation.
Kindly show some respect and show professional in your comment and word. thanks for understanding and cooperation.
Haha.. why said i arrogant? I know la.
Already experienced many huge cracks at my Setia Greens, I still keep my unit there. Why so paranoid?
@owner
Just fyi..The wood used is kayu bakau so it won’t be infested by termites
Landed property do not required huge pilling machine. The minor pilling is mainly make the land more solid, and a cement base can be built on it. Normally pilling only done on building structure. So, crack would happen between the building and the land surrounding, normally the servicing road. But the road is not that heavy that can cause the obvious crack. Dua Villas case, from the source that I am not yet 100% believe, claimed to be without piling at the car porch and back yard. Somehow, the car porch and back yard (with extension by the owners) created sufficient weight and caused the severe crack between them with the main building structure. So, those crack line within the building and sink hole are jokes. For some landed property, the crack happen in the car porch itself, which separated it into two part.
If you saw the contractor doing the piling at the car porch area. It is safe. And TR do not have back yard building structure. The small dry yard is within the main building structure with pilling. So, if own owner want to illegally do their own extension at the backyard, think twice. Your backyard is without pilling and may not able to support your extended building structure.
Well said. Apologize for my rudeness as it is my nature respond to those who try to be nasty by telling incorrect information (in fact is telling lie), and misleading the public. Someone have to be the bad guys to fight back, and I don’t mind doing the bad guy. To me, again it is a joke that those guys give a punch to ppl face with nonsense reason, and still ask ppl to reply as gentlemen. I can be really really nasty and event more if necessary.
For all TR owners, I really hope that none of us do ‘illegal’ extension that might make it difficult to get strata tile later. Just wait till we got strata.
@Bryan
i agreed with you that there is no point to have a comment without logic of sense or artisfact, definitely those comments won’t be supported, it was just shooted out unmeaningful and not going
anywhere. anyway, no worries for yourself, you have your point and concern, generally, i just hope that those are not interested on and serious about this forum, they may think of releasing their doubt in other forum since it is yet to be concluded, at least we try to keep the forum well and benefitial to everyone instead of unrelated discussion here. morever, it should be wisely utilized for good and relavant on this channel.
@Bryan
No worries, you did this for good reason which is unitentionally offencing anyone, your intention is to make this forum to be more informative and minimize any confusion. you keep everyone updated with the fact and sharing the useful information through this forum, that would be useful.
I saw info here saying the retention pond will not be there, and may become a hotel blah blah blah.. this shown the level of commitment of the developer. Those look-nice features only for advertisement and promotion and may not be there.. for that reason, i doubt the 7 years warranty commitment (initially 20 years?) on Dua Villa.. and some more the retention beside TR may be possible to changed to Indah Water sewage pond too..who knows??
@Mr Green
Ya. Who knows? But demand for properties at sg. ara never slow down. Not even launch already sold out. sigh….
@Mr Green
The supposedly hotel location is different than the retention pond location. I don’t think the hotel is firmed and we haven’t discussed it for quite few posts.
For the retention pond, Ideal said there is no plan to remove it. They said it is a requirement from MPPP. Even if it has to change, I don’t think it can become Indah Water sewage, as the area is so small. It would be good if you could take a drive there and see yourself.
To make your drive worth it, I suggest you stop at one of the durian stall, just at the exit of the new bypass road (the bypass road is still close). Good and reasonable priced durian.
@T.tokong
buy also have to make sure getting what features you paying for..i definitely don’t want to stay beside a possible sewage pond.. at least choose more reputable one can ensure promise fulfill and get what you see..
Hello Mr Green. Who knows what future hold. We’ve done our ‘homeworks’ and hope for the best. Who knows the retention pond will be IKEA or Harrods in the near future…
@Mr Green
You sounds like a smart person, you may want to take the rumours from the forum with a pinch of salt. The land belongs to the developer, and with so many schools coming up there, the rumours doesn’t stand a chance..
@kotun
Deviation from the original proposal is usually no good thing, if good thing already use as selling points for the project much earlier. i am yet to see Ideal digging that retention pond to prevent flood although most of the projects there already done. How do have confidence on their later vision park projects? The slow city concept may just remain as vision but ended up as packs of congested LMCs..
Hi, I am a direct buyer. Currently renting in Dua Villas. Please email me (azrul.alwi@gmail.com) if you are releasing your unit. Thank you.
True. I believe Setia Green is a better choice with 20X65 and 3 story. Also included a confirmed public pond with a playground I believe. And the initial selling price is ~150K more that TR.
I do not have the additional 150K or probably ~200K by comparing the SG subsales units with TR bumi reserve lots. So, I have to settle with TR which is 22X70, 2 story only, a public pond which is not confirmed, only confirm have private swimming pool, private gym and bicycle track within TR perimeter. And 2~3 private playgrounds inside plus need to have a concrete fench like jail. Some more need to pay monthly maintenance fee of RM160. And developer is building school surrounding, and a wet market + hawker center. And so many access roads built and road widening in progress.
Why don’t the developer just focus on their house/ condo building plus the public pond to make those non-owner happy? The developer really useless.
Just wondering how much is the rent there in Dua Villas.
@Bryan
@Mr Green
Actually some of the TR points Bryan mentioned are the reasons for me to choose TR.
1. 22×70. I wanted at least 22 ft wide. If you read Property Guru Milan Doshi’s book, he suggested at least 22 wide for landed.
2. 2 storey. I would not want 3 storey. I’ve tried it, and the 3rd floor will be under utilized (for me).
3. Gated and Guarded. Not 100% safe but safer. So far does not look like prison yet. In fact the fence are more beautifully done than Sathu and Dua.
4. Condo facilities : 24 hour security guard, swimming pool, gym, bicycle track, playground and badminton court (?). But of course have to pay the maintenance fee RM160.
5. Better access compared to area deep inside Sg Ara. Road widening in progress.
6. Future development, eg commercial area (Setia Triangle closeby), international school (confirmed).
@Azrul
Wondering also if there is any break in in Dua Villas?
What is slow city concept?
I think no need to argue which one is good or bad. There are always pros and cons and I am pretty sure the buyers have already weighted in all these before making the decision. This is not buying veg at market, it is 1mil commitment over the years. At the prices they pay, it is probably worth even if *touch wood*, has difficulties to obtain strata (personally I think unlikely this time but only times will tell). I probably would have bought TR if not because of the “lousy” staffs told me all sold off (indeed, can get if u know someone ….)
新港近月4爆窃案 疑是印尼籍匪所为
二零一三年六月十六日 晚上六时二十一分
（槟岛西南区16日讯）新港区自5月开始接二连三发生爆窃案，治安亮红灯，已经引起西南县警方高度关注。警方相信爆窃案是同一伙人所为，并初步掌握窃匪资料。
西南县副警区主任黎华兴副警监指出，新港区自5月至今已发生4宗爆窃案，警方相信是印尼籍的匪徒，人数有3至4人结伴干案，他们爆窃对象是靠近山边的住宅区，干案时间多数在凌晨4时至5时许。
他呼吁该区居民，特别是新港山边住户提高警惕，如有发现可疑人物或车辆出现，即刻通知警方。
他是出席西南县警方到新港区展开的高调警政巡逻活动及对话会后，向媒体如是表示。
当天警方巡视了新港5个地区，包括樟格新港第2及第3条路、新港第6及7条路、新港大街、柏霞然格里扎、格娜里。
他说，警方相信这班匪徒曾经在新港干案，这次是卷土重来，他们的一贯手法是由当地人做内应确定目标住宅后，再计划爆窃行动。
So, those stay near the hills will be higher chance to be targeted. Police made patroling ar Changkat Sg Ara 2 and 3 which is near to the road before reach Setia Green, Jalan Sg Ara 6 & 7 near the Sg wet market, Persiaran Kenari and Kenari area. Look like the most cases were happened at north Sg Ara.
The method is to get the inside people, believe the residents (or maybe tenants) there, to survey the location and find the target.
Hopefully the G&G of TR can help to avoid this.
@Chong
slow city concept means
instead of cars or motorbike…. we use bicycle
instead of more concrete building…. we have more greens and parks…
@kotun
hi green eye monster,
it is a good point that it is a matter of time, need to have sewage treatment plant to cater for big population there…..never thought of that…hopefully,no surprises it is not like the centralized garbage storeroom nearby the TR security guard house as it is not in the plan at all…..i fully agreed with Kotun as the are too small for treatment purpose…..
@kotun
I loves durian very much!. Ideal should hv include the durian stall in the proposal… it is the strength as just minutes away when we crave for durians……. Who said changes is always bad??
Heard that Ideal is not paying the due interest to panel banks under their DIBS projects. Are they in trouble financially? Simple thing also cannot manage well how to manage bigger projects in the future? A bit worry for buyers.
I am seeing this forum is getting active this past few days with some new avatar nicknames appearing. Wonder if they are genuine owners or mucking around..
@DIBS
How did you get this information, was it a rumous or fact?
@sp
Break-in crime is very common in Malaysia especially big city, this issue has been there for long time, it happens everywhere, it is matter of many or less, so far, Penang is still considered ok but still require improvement. the good thing is, at least, TR are gated and guarded, it doesn’t mean of 100% without potential of break-in but at least it is safer. even look at our neighbor country Singapore, the safest country in the world with low crime does not mean no crime.
The most important thing, some measurements and precaution have to be in place, for example, install CCTV and alarm system, that should be safer and good selling point. i feel that it is a good community concept for better environment and life style, as security is one of the most important factor in life, i believe that more and more people will accept this type of new concept and features in future, with monthly maintenance fee less than RM200, it deseves more than that with comprise of many things are taken care of, like garden, playground, facility and etc, especially security. overally, Strata title concept is more acceptable over individual title although you have limited flexibility to customize your house as you wish, but there is something else you gain, a private individual community is accountable by everyone who stay in the TR as a big family to live in harmonic. security is everyone business.
@DIBS
This is not true. Mine is ok. They did not even ask for the 5% billing yet though the inner road already completed.
@Ahaun
Mine same as ahaun. Of course, ideals won’t pay interest for non tr owners.
Just drove through TR today. Looking really good. The clubhouse is progressing well, they are also working on the stuff outside the gated fence like the lamp post and all. If go up the hill toward SPI, you will see the road/pavement on some roads are close to complete. The are also working on the backyard, putting up trees and the path for people to walk.
guys, I am direct buyer, please do let me know if anyone of you would like to let go your TR. Thx in advance!!
mine same as Bryan, they already requested for the 5% release 1-2 weeks ago as the inner road in front of my unit is done. This project is progressing good & on schedule so far.
they also plant “deco-type palm trees” along the main roadside-walking path, which is great coz personally I like greenery. Do hope they can give deliver another good build for the spice garden, tai-chi area & children playground
Statistically, from my observations, when we discuss the good things that TR is having, like right now, soon there will be ‘strangers’ dropping by and start to create false rumours and make lots of negative and paranoids comments. Hopefully I’m wrong this time.
@kotun
That’s right. Same goes to other property threat like Setia Greens or FV which i think they are heavily targeted. There are still people making false rumors. Guess they haven’t grown up yet.
Bryan and CM,
Your unit is near to FV side or SPI side. Just wonder why mine was still at 75%. Mine is near SPI side. Undress code, how about yours?
Please leave your email address
Dear all, I am newbie here. Hope to know all of my future neighbours here.
@Ahaun
Mine near spi. That is y same like u. Haha. Mayb we r future neighbour!
wqk1981@live.com..please do let me know if you would to let go your TR. thx
My friend who bought Ideal DIBS project received a call from banker informed him about the interest due. I am quite worry later the interest will be added to the loan without buyer knowing it.
@DIBS
Which bank did your friend borrow the money from??
@DIBS
DIBS service is a deal between bank and developer, it is nothing to do with buyer, as long as the price is lock-down in the purchase given by developer, the purchase price is firmed and stated in S&P. then you go ahead to apply for the loan according to 90% from bank, there is no hidden interest due to DIBS, for the Interest part in DIBS, it is between bank and developer. there is no such of procedure in adding on interest against buyer, so far, i never heard of such scenario in my life. perhaps, you can show the proof if it does happen.
@DIBS
Hello DIBS. When I was applying for the loan, Ideal salesperson gave me 3 banks that I can apply. I was wondering if I could also apply form other bank, apart from these 3, and he told me not advisable as there could be some miscom/issue during construction, as far as DIBS. The best is to ask your friend to call Ideal and sort this one out.
@Swan
From my bad experience, even from the recomended bank by Ideal, the first few months were a real nightmare to me as each month, my acc statement showing deduction as i m paying for the interest though it should b DIBS!. I voice my concern numerous times with the banker who assist in applying the bank loan but no changes, until i wrote a nasty complaint letter to the bank HQ …… Later, the problem just solved within a day or two!… I think it is the problem with the bank where wrong standing instruction been assign……Interesting, rite…
@undress code
The simply explanation, DIBS service is offered by developer to buyer, and the back end process is , developer deals with bank by having a scheme to offer buyer in purchase without any interest charge while the property in contruction. it is totally transparent and nothing to do with buyer, I think it was an exceptional case you experienced, since it is the problem with bank where wrong understanding, it may due to communication issue which is considered seperate issue. human tend to make mistake sometimes.
I think her loan is from OCBC. A sure problem but yet to be a nightmare. Hopefully won’t be one.
I think legally you as a buyer is covered. On your booking form, it should say..’Interest Subsidize Until VP’.
sorry, DIBS is not legally bind… don’t be fool by developer or banker.. only those trustworthy developer will avoid this kind of issues upfront – but i don’t trust this ideal…
@civil_eng
It is your own opinion by not trusting this ideal, but generally, everyone should be self-protective of any kind of service/committment being offered by developer, i believe DIBS is a common service being used to attract customer as marketing strategy, nevertheless, how could we ensure the trustworthy developer will never do something at backend, is there any measurement to evaluate it or success criteria, as summary, every developer has one objective, business. as a buyer, we should be clear and more protective for our investment rather than pointing to a specific developer without evidence, sorry as i am not from developer but generally share my thought but no offensive, my apology.
Mind explaining why DIBS is not legally bind?
@DIBS
hi civil_eng, u mean there is a conspiracy among the developer, banker, bank and also the state government cheating the house buyer due to the loop hole in the DIBS, even the booking form stated clearly the DIBS?? Wow… u really mean serious issue here….
This problem where Ideal did not serve the interest could be an isolated case. Only one person complain (not owner and heard it from friend of his/her).
Most owners at least in this forum shared that they encountered no problem. I don’t have any problem as well.
How is the sinking problem going ?
Any one ask the developer to give black and white about safety of the house ?
I mean RM900K in debt for the housing loan and yet do not have good sleep every night , worrying about when will crack happens is just unfair , I am working in Singapore and really worry. Mind you , I did some google , certain sinking/ cracks only happens after 10 years staying there!! In Some place near Ipoh, one house, suddenly there is a big hole in the kitchen after a few hairline cracks. Needless to say, every one move… I don’t know whether got any compensation or not.
Yes, agree. We should insist a black and white about the sinking problem.
Must fully responsible for safety / damage/ compensation in future.
At least , for investor , who wish to sell after OC, we can show that document to buyer, instead of saying that is just rumors . After all, that sinking problem is no jokes
Seriously, I am investor and looking to let go after OC.
I am looking at , at least RM1.4million during subsales.
We should make sure sinking problem is gone once and for all, don’t affect the subsales.
I believe there many investors here sharing my concern
@June
You probably want to post this question to Dua Villa or Setia Pearl Island forum.
Yes. As example, SP Setia does state the 3 years warranty period in black & white. That’s why people still confident to buy Setia Pinnacle although it is a 39 floors building sit on hill slope.
As a purchaser I have right to be worry, yes, true and sorry for washing dirty linen in public.
Are you saying we are 100% sure no sinking problem?
I could just pretend everything is rosy, how lucky we are, next project will be RM2 million, but do you think that will solve our problem? I don’t know, I am not buying for own stay, probably will let go after OC
Hello all. We are talking about unknown here for TR. I did ask Ideal sales manager, he mentioned that they know what’s causing the porch crack in Dua Villa and have implemented the solution in TR.
There is nothing as sure as day and night. There is no 100% sure that there is no sinking/no natural disaster in any project. The best we can do is hope for the best.
Even SP Setia state 3 years warranty, and some one said the cracking and sinking could only happen after 10 years.
@June
You should voice your concern to Ideal as soon as possible, it is your right. I did the same to SPS when I saw huge cracks all over my Setia Greens. I still have over 1M of loan to settle, i want to make sure SPS deliver per promised as well.
Actually, I not worry at all for DIBS not been paid nor land sink on this project, let the problem come only we face it as a group of buyers, why worry thing when it didn’t happen at all ? be happy guys, life is short, be ready to enjoy the fun of living in TR.
For those owner of TR, pls send me your name for me to compile a list for all TR owner to communicate issues arise and keep in formed for future when OC ready.
email add : treeresidency@gmail.com
yes, the sinking issue really bother me.. initially we plan to keep for own stay.. now, we decided to let go the house once getting the keys… unless developer can sign some legal documentation to ensure at least 30 years..
To those have concern on sinking issue and myself,
My thought is to have a solution by resolving the issue as priority rather than raising the concern of asking warranty, to be straight to the point, there is no life or long warranty is given, nothing is permanent. even a perfect house is built, it is hard to prove that it would stay permanent for life without change, nowsday, thing changing everyday, everything can be affected if other building or surounding is developed in our environment. therefore, that would be fair if you can review your request by having an appropriate approach to minimize the risk instead rather than requesting warranty, it is pointless if warranty is given 30 years but thing is not properly constructed in the first place, it definetely go back to square, we should get the fix resolution as first priority, my main point is, as long as the thing is properly done with right fix in right manner, that should be fair to everyone.
What causing the crack in your Setia Green house? It should be solid soil there since it is on hill. Is there warranty period to repair for re-occurrence?
You bought during launch? How much is your purchase price?
@Chong
launch price 750k, so u still wan to buy subsale 1.2mil?
@Crime
Since @may desperate to sell, i think she might want to sell around 900k. Correct @may?
It would be ideal to have developer to sign agreement to provide 30 years or even lifetime warranty. But sadly, I don’t think you can find any developer that can provide that long warranty. The typical is 18 months (If not mistaken) and SP gives 3 years.
Those problem you mentioned, could happen to any houses at tin mine area or land with underground flowing water. Like those houses on hills, land slide will always be a concern. So, don’t buy houses at those area.
I listening to this audiobook. There is a saying that goes,
“Pessimists/cynics use most of their brain worrying the worst case scenarios. They want to do things too perfectly that they end up doing nothing. Optimists use their brain to think positively and imagine the reward of victory. They keep doing small small things that keep them motivate and bring the forward”
Happy Friday..
Almost RM1 million housing loan, dont bother any issues , sit tight and hope for the best!
If I were developer, I will give each of buyer one book about optimism during key collection.
Be positive,
@Wong
Hello Wong. Thanks for the dropping by. I agree with you that we should be worried if there is actually a real issue with TR.
Some of the owners/forumers here wondering what is the real issue that we should be worried?
If I drove around TR and say I saw that they decided not to put the fence up, then I can assure you that none of the owners just sit tight.
I agree with you, I also don’t know to worry or not. Some buyers who dont visit this forum don’t even know or bother all this rumors /issues. Ok, so be it. I also don’t care, and don’t bother any more. I won’t drop by any more. Sink or no sink, let others be hero
@Wong
It is my opinion with no offend but just sharing.
if thing goes too extreme by having too much of negative, it is always a stopper or resistance to move on, no body can predict the future what is going to happen but overworry would lock you down and fear of anything, sometimes, courage is required to make decision followed by action. of course, i am not objecting on self-protective is the wrong approach with your hard money, at least, you look at this perspective to protect your, no matther how, every investment comes with risk, it depends how much the risk you can take, but too much of worrying in something has yet to happen, it makes your fear getting stronger and stop you from moving on, you may miss out if it is really a good opportunity, who knows? nevertheless, as long as basic study is done based on your purchase expectation and need, buyer made a decision, the choice is up to them, success or not, it is difference topic.
I think that there is too much talk about sinking without much constructive actions. Why not focus on some issues that will effect the residence when they move in at the near future. Things like security, management on facilities, the type of facilities that we will get etc.
For owner who plan to sell after VP, you would also want to know about this as this might be the selling point for you house. A well know, well maintained residence with friendly neighbor will sell a better price.
For those who worry too much, go after the developer your self. Cannot expect other people to do it for you.
Happy weekend.
@kaki
are u from parcel 130++ to 170++. ? i believe their road just complete on the 16 June. that is y ideal have not bill u yet
It is because TR is approaching VP time. Some quantity of units will be on selling. So, those hunters started different tactics in the attempt to stop the price from further appreciation.
And most of them is not owners, but own a property nearby, or competitors from Relua/ Sg. Ara projects. Those ppl do not want TR better then theirs, including those anti G&G concept.
And some of them use different ID to support each other comments. You will find that when you answer to A, B jump up to respond to you. Probably, he/ she forgot to change the ID.
My take from this is, no need to be too serious about some of the comments. I salute some of the owners really take his/ her time to answer each of them patiently and professionally, but it is really not necessary.
I am dua villas owner and I purchased this property at 695k.
I am also tree residency owner and I purchased it at $750k with some discount because I bought dua villas.
Do you think I will let go these units.
NO . Why? Because I am looking for another investment and I could not find any landed property below $750k. Nowadays a decent condo will cost you around 800k.
My friend bought property from sunway , ivory and belleview also have the same issues.
At the end of the day I love landed property and I believe in the near future it will be hard to find any new landed project
@Bryan
@Steve
Totally agree with both of you. I sneaked into TR construction site today and managed to snap few photos, until one of the ‘mandor’ asked me to leave. Will email the photos to admin to be shared in this forum.
@kotun
have they bill u the 5%?
Received my 5% billing on Friday, finally.
received mine too@kaki
@kotun
Excellent.. I can only view from the outside high wall.. Guard House painted, window panel upped. I were able to peek over the high wall that the backyard alley had the trees planted.
@Ahaun
Hello Ahaun. sorry for the late reply. Yes they have billed me the 5% (2h the road serving the said building).
I have emailed 3 photos to admin, and the admin has just posted it here in this forum. Do check out the 3 photos under ‘Contributed by Reader’ column above. The update date is wrong.
I drove through 1R area last weekend. In between, 2 Villa, Ideal Haus, and the Sunway Tunas 1 storey, I saw they are constructing a big building. Anyone know what that building for? Is it Dewan Serbaguna or something?
I think the guardhouse design is no good. The glass roof is not matching with the main building and the 2 supporting structures. And the glass roof will get dirty soon.
Hope it will look better after fully completed.
Anyone know what’s the building behind 2 villa is? is it dewan serbaguna…?
Tze Chi building…
@kotun
@Haus Siow
Thanks. It is not in the master plan right?
I think it is… but the TC building is actually outside the Haus Residence….@kotun
what tze chi doing there ? grey shirt and white pant clan setup another branch ?
Thanks for the photo. Seems like VP can be end July.@kotun
I recall the big brochure that Ideal hand out (looks like a thick calendar), the roads are those red pattern bricks on the picture. Wonder if the whole TR will be Bricked Road or tarred.
BTW Nice pictures
Hi,
I’m a new owner to TR. Nice to meet all my potential neighbors here.
Wonder if there’s a FB acc for TR residents?
@Haus Siow
Really? I haven’t heard of this from any Tze Chi people I know …
It also seems unlikely since the focus now is to set up the new education center at town by 2015.
I heard from ideal salesman, that building is meant for TC.
@Mookster
I’m quite sure it’s bricked road.
@Jezz
Welcom Jezz. You bought bumi release or bumi release ‘subsale’…?
Sadly and ironically, I’m right again.
@kotun
Yes you are. Don’t care abt them. I own Setia Green but i think Ideal’s One Residence is definitely worth it. Every property thread, there are some “xiao ren”. Don’t let this peoples ruin your day. Do hope this forum will have unique ID for each registered user.
@buyer
Thanks. Once in a while I saw similar negativity and paranoia in Setia Green forum as well. Some one just need to reply with a fair and factual reply.
Good to know that the ADMIN only allow either neutral/constructive comments and correct information to be posted in penangpropertytalk. We would not want any racial slur, bad intention comment and most importantly lies in this forum.
Nice work ADMIN.
Any more units available?
The ashes prayer setup info also got removed? Tat is the fact ma, why cant let the forumer debate bout it. Censorship will not bring good development of the site
@kotun now u will b the happiest man in this page as only those msg n info tat will make ur property looks remain n the rest are gone
@Crime
Good morning Crime. Perhaps it is not really confirmed if that building for Tzu Chi charity org. We’ll just wait first. Who knows (thinking out loud) it will be a small IKEA in One Residence in the future.
Optimisms and positive thinkings motivate and make me happy. Still happy but happier without pessimism and cynical thinkings.
Be happy Crime. It is your birth right to be happy. We don’t have wait our properties to appreciate to the sky or other people properties to sink to the drain to be happy.
hahaha.. ikea… please lah.. continue dream about it lah.. sensible ppl know this is impossible..
Hi,
I bought subsale from non-bumi lot@kotun
This morning the haze almost gone. A really good day to everyone. It is funny that someone is not happy when other people happy that the haze is gone.
Similarly, someone is also having problem with other ppl happiness to own TR. Wonder why must they trying so hard to convince the TR owners that they should be sad with TR.
@kotun
Your happiness will invite more haze….. haha!
Guys, when do you think we’ll get our VP? Looking at how things goes at the site, it should be soon? Hmmm, I’m thinking of forming our cool team of community and maybe get the fencing around TR higher?
Sensible person also understand that he is only quoting an example that the building may not be for TC. Omg, the haze was reported may return to by 28th June. But probably earlier by looking at the current situation.
For the VP, really tough to estimate. I think most likely I will miss the year end moving schedule. If VP before Aug, still got hope.
Fence….. no comment as I think current height is ok.
@Bryan
At least it is good to know it would probably be a ‘haze’ free communities within TR GnG. Lot’s of ‘fresh air’ inside.
Your future neighbour,
kotun
Thanks Bryan, you are right on.
@najib
Hello najib. It is just a sentence so that you don’t take the TC building seriously yet. It is not cofirmed. Be haze free…… I can see you smiling…?
Well Bryan,
Worst case if you miss the year end, maybe you can try to target before CNY? Haha have faith, ignore what ever negativity that others got to say. I think we should be happy that we bought TR, I’m sure those who bought TR got a strings of positive or good reasons before they make their decision.
Well, minimally I’m happy with it 😉
@Jezz
I can smell another ‘fresh air’ coming to TR. Welcome to TR neighborhood Jezz.
Haha, thank you 😉
@Crime
rather than the Tze Chi, i am more concern about the surrounding community & safety.. foreign worker settlement within the surrounding community is much scary than religious setup…
@safety
It seems that crime rate is getting higher and frequent not only in Penang but also KL and JB, it has been very concern to our surrounding community especially Lady and senior citizen, those are always the target of victim, recently, i also saw some news at Johor Bahru, the crime case is sprouting and getting very serious, it is really headache and hardcore issue, on my opinion is, our community has to setup a new team as volunteer to defend on this known issue as proactive action, as said, safety is everyone business, solely depending on police may not effective enough as police can’t 24 hours keep an eye on the same spot but patrolling only, nowsaday, the robbery is also clever, they do home work before action, they study the movement/timing of police patrolling and action when it is an opportunity, who hit the timing will be the unluckly victiom, therefore, some priority measurement has to be in plan to firm up a team to take care of individual area. that would be more effective.
@Swan
Rephase my above statement due to typo error. below is the correction for one of sentences
Safety is everyone business, solely depending on police is not enough as police can’t 24 hours keep an eye on the same spot but patrolling only, we should work together with Police as a team to fight against the crime for better living environment.
Safety is a concern for any residential. Even though TR is GnG, which we owners hope would be safer than non GnG, every body need to play their role to ensure their families and communities safety. Install good security system and actively participate in the Join Management. Keep giving feedback if you see any suspicious behaviours (outsiders or the security guard themselves). Hope for the best.
@safety
On the foreign worker ‘settlement’, they are contract workers for developer to build TR, FR and Haus. They will be gone soon.
Your house broken in? Got injured?
@Chow
Not my house. Have to ask those stay at the mentioned area near hill side like SPI, Siara 81, Setia Green, Desa Ria, Relau. Police said there are “insiders”/”residents” there providing the residents’ information to the indon thiefs.
There were one or two cases in the old terraces (opposite SPI) whose backyard in very close distance to small hill.
Wondering if there is any legal way for the local community to put up fences and force every single visitor to register in order to enter like G&G. Saw some KL friends’ housing area, not G&G, butl have fences – not sure if it is legal or not though. If this can be done, the exposure is narrowed down a lot.
@safety
Gated and guarded is the trend for landed. Facilities and security.
I was assuming you were referring to TR on the foreign worker settlement and the safety issue, when you post this article in this forum.
TR is not that close to hill slope and hopefully the GnG concept further increase the safety. Let’s hope that the crime rate at those area you mentioned will be reduced soon.
@Chow
I am totally agree. I am currently stay in GnG landed. I do not worry at all if someone is tailgating me when I reaching my house gate. Also I feel safe to open my gate to wash my car in the middle of night…For TR purchaser…you made a right choice…GnG is not 100% safe but it takes care your worries….
@kotun
Yes, theoretically TR is safer than SPI and Setia Green, as long as no natural disaster like collapse of building due to land sinking or sinking hole due to sand settlement or water flow under.
@skateboard
How about landslide?
Hi All,
I am totally agree that GnG landed will be the trend in future as safety is the main concern for everyone. it is the basic and essential for everyone. it is important to stay peacefully without worry. at least, the risk has been minimized with a layer of security guard house. we can make it even better by improving further with more camera, frequent patrolling, clocking and etc.
Can, provided 100% of the residents willing to pay for it, but also cannot stop outsider to access to the area as the service road and any garden/ playground there is actually open to public.
Even though theoretically safer, owner should not take things for granted. I would still install security system for added security.
Natural disaster is an act of god. We just pray it won’t happen to any residential anywhere. But you are not implying the cracks they are having in SPI and Setia Green are due to land sinking, are you? Let’s not create false rumour that would down play other properties.
@kotun
Yes, let’s only speak about fact. Not sure whether there is cracks in SPI & Setia Green, and whether it is build quality or land sinking if there is. But for sure we know Dua Villa has land sinking problem and there is serious crack. so is the crack due to land sinking or build quality?
Hello skateboard. The best way is for you to post questions in SPI, SG and Dua Villa forum, or you could scroll through the postings to look for answers.
Could not wait to experience that.
Anyone know when will vp be obtained? Sales mentioned by July.
Looking at the progress, some said end of July possbile, some said end of August is more likely. I’m a bit conservative and I hope we can get VP some time in September.
How many of the forummers’ has intention to move in this year ? I may only in 2014. Want to take it slow and plan out my reno properly to get thing right.