Tree Residency @ One Residence
“Less is more” is the design philosophy of notable architect Ludwig Mies van de Rohe. With the Tree Residency, the values of minimalism are fully exuded, conveying a sense of harmony that comes from simplicity.
The minimalism in Tree Residency, however, is not one of emptiness, but one that is out of the box, with bold use of lines, geometry and ratio instead of fluff to achieve a clean and elegant look. More importantly, the materials used to construct Tree Residency are environmentally friendly, as such bringing its inhabitants close to nature.
The overall design of Tree Residency is skewed towards garden living, with eight different designs to suit the different requirements of buyers. The club facility of Tree Residency is complete with badminton court, half-sized Olympic pool and other recreational facilities that will bring out the athlete in you.
Location : One Residence, Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : Corner Duplex, Link Duplex, Twin Villa
Land Tenure : Freehold
Total Units: 316
Developer : Ideal Property
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@Setia Green
This is a strata title landed. You can’t tear down and rebuild.
@kaki
@kotun
Actually, I am OK with the wall height. Higher wall affect the air ventilation and look like a jail. And the quality of grass and club house, we need to know what they are using before we can commend. About the traffic light, also, need more details. Last time sales told me the traffic light will be with sensor system, but I doubt so.
If you all really want to know, my experience tell me that this kind of feedback will not be fruitful one. That’s why I never comment whenever you all discuss about this.
@Bryan
My friend bought D’Residence at Bayan Mutiara has teared down most of the structure & rebuilt. Some guy (corner terrace) repainted the house to “striking” green colour also no problem. Anyway, just to illustrate for landed it is still possible to fix some major problems like embedded major piping crack & wiring problem, but no way for high rise building if low grade materials are being used.
D’residence is not strata landed.
Is D’residence gated and guarded? I jog around that area some time and see some of the house look very different than the rest. Quite weird looking.
@Setia Green
Right. If the management and JMB allow you to do that, you may. And definitely, landed (strata or individual title) will have less concern on the quality because you able to renovate the house to be higher quality, if you have money. You can change to glass hand rail for staircase for 7-8K, and maybe >10K for glass with stainless steel. Wall and ceiling, ~10K can do the skim coating and plaster ceiling to make it as smooth as you like, and you can change the whole floor tiles for another 15K I think, with 3’X3′ tile. So, all this can be done in 40K. I guess this is what you meant.
I did have a look at the layout of SB, it is big. 6 +1 rooms and not bad at all. If really want to pick, I will say the master room at 2nd floor is smaller, and I will not use to 2 rooms at 3rd floor as master room. If I choose 3ST, the 3rd floor design should be like Sentral Greens so that I will design it to be a private club house. Another thing is, no separation between wet and dry kitchen is a minus point to me, because I normally do a cement + tile table top for wet and wooden cabinet + granite table top for dry. And, SB too big and not suitable for my family size, and of course the price as well. Not sure how much there are selling, maybe 1.5M now.
So, when you choose landed, the most important thing is the location. I consider TR simply because a new market is coming up beside Sathu, Heng Ee schools beside Dua, Setia Triangle, Vision Park commercial near Bayan Lepas round about, the new access road and the widening Jln Tun Dr Awang. <5km away from Sunshine, Giant, and coming Jusco, SPICE. So, I think SB can match in this point. Sorry for SB owner. I actually like SB as well.
@Bryan
Hello Bryan,
I’m not aware of new market coming up next to Sathu. You mean wet market selling fish, chicken veggie and all? Will there be a Jusco as well in SPICE?
On Jln Tun Dr Awang road widening, will they widen the bridge close to Jln Tengah traffic light?
@kotun
The building is about 80% completed, in front of the low cost flat. My guess is wet market + some store and hopefully a mini hawker center. It is by Ideal.
Jusco is at the Elite Height area. Some people said the plan canceled by some said Jusco already sighed the contract.
Road widening, I am not sure how they going to do this. The current land was cleared but they plant a few young trees there. And I think the road widening will only cover the Vision Park, before South Homes.
@Bryan
so the only 2 lanes bridge at Jln Tun Dr Awang will be the bottleneck for the traffic in future… when the cars piled up until the U-turn at Vision Park, those cars want to U-turn also cannot, and the queue become longer & longer…
@Mad
You are right. That is for other developer or local gov to widen it. For all the projects, developer will only widen the road in front. We should feel lucky because Vision Park is a long shape and took up a very long path of Jln Tun Dr Awang.
I remembered not too long ago, many said that the developers have
the responsibility to upgrade roads. So ask Ideal to do it, talk “many
many” is useless.
@Bryan
In that case, a traffic light for turn right toward airport is making more sense than the U-turn. Those who want to turn towards Jln Tengah no need to wait for traffic light, and those who turn to airport no need to queue at the U-turn at Vision Park. If not all stuck at the Vision Park U-turn then die lah!
@Mad
That will create more traffic problem. Prefer Jln Tun Dr Awang using the highway method. Adding traffic will be like Jln Dato Ismail Hashim, where ppl don’t like to use it now.
Btw, we all still don’t know in details how Ideal is going to widen the road, so no point flag it right now. I think this topic has been discussed repeatedly many times and I see no point to continue.
@Bryan
Yes, better we complaint to MPPP too to force related parties to widen the whole stretch of Jln Tun Dr Awang including the bridge, so that no bottleneck. I think Vision Park also not yet get project approval yet.
@Mad
Widening the bridge is no simple feat. Under the bridge the is a shortcut route which i used it everyday
@Mad
Act according to feeling will not get attention. Statement without fact and data will not be entertained. I don’t think MPPP will act on every single complaint you log.
All the claim made must be reasonable and with factual data. Currently, the road traffic is light and road widening is in progress. Who is going to believe after the road widening, the traffic will be worst? You complaint now, I will answer that action was taken and under execution if I am MPPP.
@Bryan
At least we take action now and not just sit there and later complaint MPPP not doing the job. As per now, road expansion work should be still under control of current federal government, I think the best state gov/MPPP can do is to force developers to do their portion of social works before approving new projects while earning $$$.. if developers improve the traffic, the properties also can sell better, win-win solution! But first of all, we must feedback/complaint to MPPP, before it is too late… let keep the ball rolling and hope for better planned new township!
@Mad
All you mentioned is already in place. And the social responsibility on another half of the Jln Tun Dr Awang, will be to those developer with future development at that area. You can request many things but must be fair.
At One Residence/ Vision Park area, Ideal already do this:
1. Built a Market
2. A new access road
3. Jln Tun Dr Awang road widening from round about to South Homes.
4. Donate the land for Heng Ee school and FOC service on the architect design and plan. Alex Ooi is the vice president of the school building committee.
5. Access road to connect Jln Tun Dr Awang to Jln Sg Tiram > Jln Sultan Azlan Shah.
I am not siding Ideal but I think they fulfill the social responsibility. You want them to widening the road further, unless you give the land of army camp there to Ideal, like giving the whole stretch Jelutong water front reclamation right to IJM in order to built the Tun Lim Express.
Ideal One Residence project is sharing profit with Tunas Muda, and have to build some terrace and bungalow to hand over to Tunas Muda members, plus the low cost flat.
Having say this, you can go ahead to log a complaint. I think the website is available on some forum. For me, I will only act on items that I think is possible and reasonable. I won’t spend effort on unreasonable items and wasting the resources, just for a try.
Received SMS from Ideal that they are arranging the S&P signing within the next 2 weeks and ask me to call their office to update them on the loan status.
I’ll highly likely take Ambank and convert to full flexi after VP. Maybank agent not responsive at all. Has been chasing him week by week but never response on time. He might not want to do OD loan.
@kaki
Same here, MBB took such a long time to process, and not yet responded by now. I will most likely choose between Ambank and PBB.
@Bryan
any news abt the ground breaking for the heng ee school which you told us to be schedule early Mac??
@undress code
Ya. About this, nothing on 2nd March, but last weekend, they are clearing the land.
@Bryan
May I know where is the exact location for heng ee school?
Just next to Dua Villas? The land behind The Star that fenced up is the international school?
Went to site again and visited Haus showroom. The sales girl says the land desides dua villas is for another Chinese school. Eng Ee will be opposite dua villas. But no confirmation yet.
Zhong Shan primary school is going to move to “chap gong si” – I heard from neighbor that is somewhere near The Star. Anyway, I think doesn’t really matter, at the end, there will be an international school, two primary schools and one secondary school, if all go through.
kinda agree with Bryan after some thought, lodging complain to MPPP now is not the correct timing yet as is all based on ‘forecast’ .
for TR now atleast already have some ‘committed’ connecting road to Jln Tun Dr.Awang, some widening in progress, some local/international school nearby (rather than unsure development) etc… which overall bring extra value to it.
I think after TR OC obtain, residents/owners of Sathu/Dua&Tree can combine voices, best still with those JMB from SP/ Fierra Vista etc then only the gov authorithy may listen.
Fingercross! hope things are smooth & good for TR, in fact, for the whole Penang Island! for now & future
I do agree that Ideal has done its part in contributing to the social development there, but I think it is nothing wrong to complaint/highlight to MPPP about the future traffic problem. The Jln Tun Dr Awang there is mostly 1 lane each direction (start from Jln Tengah end), and when the 1R connecting road been opened, the traffic flow is terrible!. SPI, 1R, Vision Park, and may be Teluk Kumbar projects may all going through that road! If it is not Ideal, then some one else need to do something…whether it is MPPP, future federal government, or some other developers.. Let our voices be hear NOW, and not just sit there and complaining when it is already late!
Hello,
Few people have log complaint before. But less than 5, including myself. Log your complaint here.
http://aduan.mppp.gov.my/complaint_eng.html
Any bumi released lot buyer signed SPA for the past 2 weeks? Just clearing the balance of 10%? Any other charges?
And, anyone know the latest complete date? Don’t think will be by Jun/ Jul can complete. If too close to year end, headache comes because many renovation contractors will be full of jobs.
Seems like my house moving plan have to postponed to 2014.
Just went down to check out the place. The just start to build the outer wall next to the Fiera Vista side. I look at my unit, the painting is done but the windows frame is not yet up. The suppose to clubhouse only skeleton frame is up. Thus, most likely they will make full use of the strata timeframe to build the whole taman. I think under the strata contract they are given 3 yrs to complete development.
@Mookster
I also feel Ideal has a long way to go for TR. If 3 years, when is the expected completion date then? December 2013?
@kotun
Most Likely end of 2013 early 2014 I predict
Greeting to all owners of Tree Residency, I am one of the owner of this project. It will be great if we can gather owners info together and share within the group for any issues arises on this project. If no issues then we can yum cha to talk about how to make TR a best place to live.
I am volunteer to compile the list and contact number to share everyone within the list, pls send me the details to treeresidency@gmail.com
1)Name
2)Contact
3)Email
4)Type
@Jack
Haha….. actually I do not intent to disclose myself in the real world after offending so many ppl in this forum as Bryan. I may join you as a fresh ID or my real name, after I sign the SPA….
No problem Bryan, you no need to provide the nickname used here as you drop me the email. The forming of user group communication is to uphold the owners right and also together we do improvement for our property – TR.
@Jack
For the first step, I think those staying in condo right now try your best to attend your condo JMB AGM and learn how they run the operation. Then you may able to contribute to TR later as the JMB members.
@Bryan
Finally decided to take up loan from Ambank. Sign offer letter tomorrow following with SPA next 2 weeks.
Bryan, when do you plan to sign SPA?
@kaki
Maybe 2 weeks from now. Wait for PBB offer letter.
Offer letter signed. Contacted Ideal and they are arranging S&P & loan agreement signing this Sat.
@kaki
Before sign the SPA, maybe check with them what actually caused the land sinking issue in Dua Villa and what is the action taken so that TR will not have the similar issue.
I will ask the same question if I have chance to meet them.
Guys! As triggered in Setia Green thread, I think there are 2 key issues we need to face for TR right now:
1. The land sinking issue in Dua Villas. I think we need to ask the actual cause and the action done to prevent the same problem in TR. I am not sure I will get any good answer if I can’t, I may cancel my booking because I don’t want to live in a house with land issue, which I think it is major. Any input on this?
2. Gangster contractor: Friends in Sathu claimed that they can use their own contractor freely. But someone mentioned that GC do exist in Dua Villa. Which one is true? Ideal previous project did comes with GC, including the current CF obtained 1-World 1&2. So, maybe we should assume that TR will come with GC. We need to form a owners’ group, maybe 1 month before VP. Problem here is we are not able to gather much owner here.
@Bryan
Gut feel to your 1st question – Ideal will tell you that they wont see such problem unless we get the land surveyor report on the soil made up which I deem will be too complex to comprehend. At previous, Dua Villas land previously were a vegetable farm land thus the soil make up might be soft.. IMHO.
GC will always be there, since I have my current place, I might not move in that fast and slowly take my time to figure out all the logistic (children school transportation). Bryan and all, it will be good that we can come together to have a meet up, just to chit chat. I won’t be too worry about the statement made earlier that might had offended anyone. I believe we all owners wants to live in harmony and wants the best out for the community.
@Mookster
No need to see the problem in TR. It is already happened in Dua Villa. We just need to know the root cause, and action taken in TR to prevent similar issue. Otherwise, buying TR is like gambling? Btw, TR land previously not vegetable land?
Yes, 1 way to avoid GC is move in after 1 yr. But if nobody initiate a strong JMB, and let the management (by Ideal) continue to manage TR, I guess the GC will be there for years, until they move to other projects. So, how long you can wait?
After I sign the SPA, maybe we can meet up. Maybe have it in I-Regency, so that you all can feel the product of Ideal. And I can tell the long GC story….
@Bryan
I suggest you write in to Ideal and see what is their response.
For GC, developer might argue that the contractor that stationed there is to provide convenient service to the home makers on renovation needs. I used their service to install grille, fan, mirrors and lightings for my house, the charge is quite reasonable. And they complaint the lightings that i bought from ikea are very difficult to install, they din earn much bcos they only charged me RM6 per lighting. I demanded them to install everything in 1 day. 😀
Unless they kacau your own contractors from outside, some time it is not too bad to have a ready contractor stationed there for first few months, just for some quick fix.
For land which previously grow with big trees, should be very stable. What is the land at TR used to be?
@Bryan
I don’t see such issue at my friend’s unit except for some small cracks at fence outside (corner unit), but that’s on Sathu.
As for DV, I know at least one unit hit quite badly (beyond the typical backyard and car porch). This is because we are using the same kitchen/cabinet maker. The cabinets couldn’t move in until everything is fixed.
Ideal could tell the truth or lie. At the end, you would still need to judge how trust-able their words are. In my opinion, if they are really treating the DV problem seriously (need to verify with those owners), TR should be fine. *touch wood* if the worst really happens, just join force with others and ask them to fix.
@Bryan
According to satellite images (10 years back), the land for the whole oneR is about the same, flat land with some bushes/small trees.
The vegetable land is right beside North of Dua Villa. I did see wall cracking issues last time on some units far away from the vegetable land. So, it is likely the land is really sinking, or the land is filled to make higher ground for houses, but not stable yet (than being veg land).
The risk is definitely. Your time to judge the rest given the house is bought relatively cheap to today’s price, I presume.
Greeting to all owners of Tree Residency, let’s start to form the owners group for Tree Residency to speak up the improvement for our future home sweet home.
I am volunteer to compile the list and contact number to share everyone within the list, pls send me the details to treeresidency@gmail.com
1)Name
2)Contact
3)Email
4)Type
@J
The land should be occupied by squatters for many years rite? Anyway, with The Lights, Straits Quay and World City all built on recently reclaimed land, it is only right to judge a land stability after few years, with everyone claiming they are using the latest technologies. It is the developer job to make sure that the pilling work is done properly or their reputation is at risk. Isn’t that Ideal still have many new projects to be launched?
@Jack
Why not just set up a meeting TT session just to intro and say “Hi” then we can exchange contacts, I very much prefer and knowing who is who.
I am not worry on land issue as I still can remember that the TR site was filled up with solid rock before it was blasted away to development. I am more corncern about the pasar malam and illegal stores setup on the other side of the road, very eyesore. and also I saw the fencing of entrance into FV site is raised up for better security but don’t know the existing fencing will them rework on it ?
there is one forummer request not to be identified as wat his nickname here because he felt he is too ‘outspoken’ here and wanted to start new as real name, therefore I compilling the email list. we can have TT once I got the email list compiled.
@Make sense
@J
I will meet them face to face before I put my signature on the SPA. I still have choice.
@Jack
I believe nobody to send any message to you as they do not know who you are. The 1st meet to know each other is a better way before communication through email at the later stage….. and give you a like for thread #50…
@Bryan
So far 2 owners add to email list, I might creating FB for the community for this later stage. For those onwers who prefer to meet for TT, I will also support for it. Let the ball rolls…. thanks for the like for #50
@Bryan
Who knows later you will get some extra perks from Ideal.
@Jack
That’s is a good start!
@Make sense
Haha! Hopefully but not likely….
Looks like a good respond on today’s discussion. Really hope we could have a private blog for owner only to have a more details discussion.
@Bryan
Kudos to Bryan and Jack. So awaiting for the TT Session.
Anyone can advise when the OC will be?
1R is free flood zone. Confirmed with the heavy rain this morning.
How do you post Picture Update into this forum ?
@Mookster
you can post to admin@penangpropertytalk.com and mentioned the project of the picture to post into the forum.
wonder the clubhouse already built ?
On Sunday, I went around to check out the Taman. I found that the wall height at the Fiera Vista side is much higher than usual, so I think the overall wall surrounding is base on the overall landscape of the taman.
For the clubhouse, they are laying down the upper floor concrete and coming up fast. I peek into the backyard, some of them is being cleared already.
@Mookster
The wall height along the Jln Dato Ismail Hashim also high if view from inside. Just because the land is lower at that side, the wall height become low when view from outside.
@Mookster
@Bryan
that’s true, there is no way ppl can climb over the wall along the Fiera Vista site, as I measured it higher than my height which is good for security, but along outside main road along Jln ismail hashim it look like just 4 ~ 5 feet and ppl can easily jump/climb over it, dono will fall and break their leg if landing on other side which you said is lower.
Update on the questions I raise earlier:
Land Sinking: Mainly at the backyard extension of Dua Villas. TR do not have backyard extension, so, will not have any issue. As for the car porch, there was pilling done to avoid the sinking issue.
Comment: No sure how true is it, but as long as Ideal is responsible for it, should be fine.
GC: No GC in Sathu and Dua, assuming no GC as well in TR.
Comment: I am sure Sathu don’t hv as my friend stay there. Not sure about Dua. Anyway, since TR is a strata title landed, and no major renovation allowed, I guess the impact of GC is very minimal if there is.
I think this wall crack at the back yard and porch on Dua is blown out of proportion by some people (generally people who blindly hate Ideal). It is not the main structure, but the back yard, and Ideal has mitigated this. I’ve seen cracked on my current apartment on the pagar, and few other residential as well.
My friend stayed in SPI phase one, and he said one of the bedroom has bad cracks, due to piling and development on subsequent phase.
When they have the TR show house opened, I saw they were piling the car porch (the piling machine and the piling stick/pole). So we should have higher confidence that TR will not have similar issue with Dua.
I’m quite sure I read in Dua Villa forum that there is no GC. I sure hope it will be the same for TR. Could not wait for TR to complete. Supposedly to be Ideal’s flagship project, as they claim it.
kotun,kaki and bryan..have u all sign the s&p?
Pardon my ignorance – What is GC ?
Bryan – As for your comment of Major Renovation – What is consider to classify this ? This will be 1st time owning a Strata Title Property. I am planning to make some extension and change some outlook exterior.
@Ahaun
Me probably next 2 weeks. The later the better la.
@Mookster
GC is the short form of Gangster Contractor, the nicer name will be Appointed Contractor. Ppl named them GC because there were cases that they threaten the owner’s contractor and stop them from entering the premise.
For strata title property, there will be restriction for renovation or installation that affected the property outlook. There will be certain location allocated for aircon compressor (but this one still can negotiate with management), the pattern of the grille especially for the main door (normally a few pattern given for selection), the pattern of main gate, cannot change the color of exterior walls, no external structure change. All renovation plan should be approved by management with deposit before you can proceed. After your renovation completed, management need to check your renovation. If everything fine, they will return your renovation deposit. Otherwise, your renovation deposit will be forfeited for the use of tear down your unapproved renovation.
The only renovation affected the outlook for type 22 is to cover up the dry yard. I guess many owners will do this with different design if without control, and management may provide a few design for selection. But normally it is not that strict for the backside of the house as it is not obvious.
All this is important to obtain the strata title.
Signed on last Saturday morning. Only pay the remaining 10%. That is all.
@kaki
Is the SPA come with the unit layout with dimensions?
@Bryan
Ok — understood on the GC Acronym.
No GC in Sathu, Dua and hopefully in TR as well. This is good for TR, Ideal and definitely on our pocket.
Could not wait for TR to complete… the flagship project for Ideal.
Yes. TR location map, TR layout as well as the unit layout is in the appendix.
I am wondering if I approach Ideal at this moment, can they produce the electrical wiring schematic of the house or not? any comment. And also if they follow the drawn up diagram when laying down the wiring.
Tried already. Cannot.
@Mookster
Not sure what you meant. From what I observed, the power points are well scatter around the corners in the house. The aircon power points also available for every room, above the windows. Actually, minimal additional wiring required, except the kitchen, and dry yard, where I am going to relocate the washing machine area.
@Bryan
Current living place. I too have come to equate that the number of power points within the house is sufficient and also plan out with a couple more extension points. Alas, find out after living at the place for so many years, your power needs grows and points aren’t enough. Further to this, the amp load has also increase with extension put in thus would in long run cause damage with TSV’s + Surges. Thus, having the schematic and I am planning to be more vigilant in planning my power needs this time.
@Mookster
Get it. To me, the most power consumption device are aircon. Just have another switch box at upstairs is good enough.
Other power point, you may just loop in with the existing power point if just for normal electrical/ electronics devices. Add a new power point for electrical kettle, fridge, microwave and other devices working with temperature.
For my current condo, I did too much power points and it is under utilized. Other than that, the contractor do the conceal work poorly and caused it very obvious under the light. And now, can see cracks at the conceal area.
So, I will do minimal hacking and conceal this time. For upstairs, may try to utilize the space under to roof for wire looping.
I saw some development on the land behind Haus and the “bungalow house”. Anyone know is that an apartment?
Ideal still think that they can get VP for TR in June. My plan to move in by year end still possible if this is real.
For those just sign the SPA recently, how long they took to ask for the subsequent payment?
Info gather during signing the SPA:
1. Pet is allowed.
2. The land is belong to respective owners after strata title issued, not the common property like the facilities, road and so on, as I commented earlier.
3. Maintenance fee is RM160 + 10% sinking fund.
4. VP by June.
5. The flat besides the new market building is selling at 42K only.
6. Strata title to be issue within 3 years. MOT stamping is about 20K+ and legal fee could be less than 2K after discount.
Others:
1. Bank evaluation value for Sathu and Dua are just ~720K. But I know someone transected Sathu at ~1M.
2. New property selling still good but subsales slowdown. A bit bad news for those investors.
@kaki
Yes, I think there is a LMC apartment.
@Bryan
You are saying that MOT I still have to fork out another 20k for the transfer ??
@Mookster
Yes. Ideal only waive the legal fees for SPA and facilities agreement.
@Bryan
Just received a letter from Ideal with all the progress payment invoices. They starts to request $$ from bank now. S&P signed on 06 Apr, today received progress payment letter, nearly 2 weeks time.
Mine progress payment until 75% liao.
This is the first time I heard the land belongs to the owner after the strata title issued.
Please get your fact right and understand first what is strata title.
This is not individual title where you own the land and the house. @Bryan
@Sungai Ara
This is also my thinking that’s why I asked this question to the lawyer during the signing. I just translate the lawyers words. What’s the problem with you?
In the SPA, it do not mention the total built-up, but the total land area of 1540sf. Compensation can be made if the actual land area is different from the 1540sf. Do you have a better explanation on this? Why don’t they mention the built-up as we only buy the house, not the land?
@kaki
That is fast. Thanks.
Strata title mean sharing. Pls go to Pejabat Tanah & Galian or Pentadbir Tanah & Daerah and verify.
@Sungai Ara
The house you own but not the land. The land is sharing.
@Bryan
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1. Bank evaluation value for Sathu and Dua are just ~720K. But I know someone transected Sathu at ~1M. ”
Really? Any particular reason or wild guess why the valuation is so low? If I remember correctly, the 1st hand selling prices were starting at about 620K.
I have no idea. Bank value is actually very subjective. I guess if you are having a strong financial status, the bank will increase the bank value in order for them to lend you more money. ~720K is a baseline I guess. And someone at other forum told me that if you are VIP members of the banks, you can get better bank value.
Right. So I guess the lawyer is either not knowledgeable or do not understand my question.
Let’s move on. I have no problem in either way.
I think it is similar to condo. From my vague memory (better verify if this bothers you), before strata title is issued, the land (and whatever parcels) belongs to the original owner. Need consent letter, fees etc in order to sell. The developer is obliged to apply for strata title within X years after completion. The strata title is like share market certificate, u own part of the stocks but not all. In this context, it is like u own the land, but not anything outside (which is still shared). In other words, I believe once issued, strata title more-or-less = individual title from land ownership standpoint. Now, problems could arise if a strata title could not be issued for whatever reason. In the case, it virtually means the owner only owns the building, not the land.
I heard stories people dont buy from ID**L becoz in the past, they played dirty tricks to try not to convert the master plan (need $$$). However, these issues are probably gone now given more and more people aware of their rights, and tighter government laws/acts etc.
Since there are some ppl interesting on the strata title topic, I search for some information as below:
http://www.imowner.com.my/articles/view/128
In short, the content related to our discussion above:
Master Title: Developer is the owner.
Strata/ Individual Title: Owner own the land (for landed property).
Again, this is just an info sharing and you have your right not to believe the source.
@Bryan
Well summarized in 2 sentences, :).
Didn’t read the article but your summary is in line with what I know except for this:
Master title => Developer is not always the owner, especially in joint-effort development.
I am not sure whether this creates a loop hole for the developer and land owner to play dirty tricks to delay (or worst try not to) applying for strata. It probably does, considering some people avoiding buying from developer with bad reputations at all costs.
Not meant to say this will impact OneR (TR, Sathu etc.), but be prepared to fight if things really go this way (unlikely though). Once strata title is issued, I believe OneR value will go up much more
@owner
By the law, application for strata title is a must before the developer can issue the VP. They will not be able to claim for the last 2.5% of the purchase price without the application.
But, I do not know if developer having trick that able to bypass the local authority.
The land transaction of Heng Ee school still pending at state gov. Permit still pending federal gov. I think this is the reason that nothing can be done on the site until today.
http://www.nanyang.com/node/527406?tid=510
@Bryan you start to assume many things and not talk to the facts. Read more before you write here to confuse ppl on strata title and also the valaution thing.
My observation is u talk the most but until now stil kiasi to sign snp
@Crime
For @Bryan, Ideal will give special “strata title” to Bryan only which include the land ownership.
Too bad this special arrangement is for Bryan only and not for all the other normal strata title owners. You do not own the land if it is strata title, even the kindergarten kid knows this.
The land is mortgaged by developer to the bank for funding other project.
@Crime
I guess the “assumption” may bring meaningful discussion. This is what I saw and what I heard. Welcome for correction but your reply is making a higher level of “assumption”. My facts is wrong but you gave nothing to prove it, just a few words. I get the evaluation value from bank and still you assume I make it out. And you believe I make many “assumption” then why you think my earlier comment that I haven’t sign the SPA is a correct statement?
And if I haven’t sign the SPA until now is because of kiasi again another super great assumption from you. Why can’t because I am doing super duper exceptional loan case from the bank that tell me the evaluation value?
LPPL la friend. Don’t try to shoot ppl but at the end shooting yourself.
@Sungai Ara
No matter how wrong my statement is, I don’t think it is any worst than your statement that full of rudeness and personal attack. I tried to be gentlemen to you but you don’t event understand the basic respects to people and the most important to yourself. Bryan is only virtual person and I don’t need to deal with you in real life. But just feel sorry and pity to your friends and relative, especially those who need to stay together with you day in and out.
wtf..the traffic light in front of TR guard house look weird and very ugly..should use roundabout instead..
Construction work found on the site in front of FV. The site suppose to be One Solaria commercial lot. Any idea?
Found the balcony glass is a bit small and clear in color. Not nice. I was expecting something close to Ideal Haus type.
When they going to open the new access road?
is vp still june..i doubt so
“Less is more” to the developer means “Give you less and charge you more”
PM gave the permit for Heng Ee branch last night. Now pending Pg stage gov to complete the land transaction progress. I guess now the owner again can charge “more” to the future buyer for the “less” they paid > 2 yrs ago.
@Bryan
Now he is not officially the PM, he can promise anything. BN might lose
in this coming election.
Actually Bryan, I personally think that if any area got school nearby, the traffic will be more terrible and noisy, is it more cons over pros? I’ve this question bcos I’ve never experienced to stay in such environment.
@Believer
His is still PM under “caretaker government”. The permit is still valid if they lost the election.
@Alvin
Yes. But id you have children, you have the go through the schooling traffic anyway. The benefits of having school in walking distance are:
— You can avoid the traffic by walking/ cycling. Kids at secondary school should have no problem to do this. This save time and money.
— No need to travel hours to school at town area. Kids have more time to rest and study.
If you don’t have children, it is hardly for you to meet the schooling traffic because the worst traffic will be only ~15 mins after school. Randomly, I only meet the traffic once or twice when go to fetch by children from kindy near Kuang Wah/ Shih Chung.
in a month.
@Bryan
A “caretaker government” cannot award project or give such permit.
Refer to Ambiga if you are not convince.
@Believer
At least, he keep his promise to complete the 2nd pg bridge though he lost the 2008 “erection”.
Just visited the site during Labor Day. The back of the overall project has started to build the fencing wall. I am delighted that it is pretty high. Between the construction metal fencing and the actual brick wall there is a gap space about 10 or more feet. I am wondering why is that so but it leave a space between the malay food stall between the taman. Sooner or later they will encroach the space.
@Alvin
Most likely the affected area would be the Dua Villas rather than TR. The traffic congestion would most likely to build up at the Tunas Muda Houses and near to the suppose hawker or pasar area because that is the most likely area the school will be build. TR has quite distance away from the suppose school area. Highly unlikely parents will park their cars at TR and walk all the way to the school to send or fetch their children (knowing I am one that drives all the way to the front door).
School jam period will be around 30 mins to 1hr tops and frankly rest of the days will be pretty easy going with the traffic. Taking note that at Sri Nibong area where there is Shih Chung, Kwang Hwa and a Malay Primary/Secondary school together – I get back home in 30 mins tops during super peak at 6pm.
@Believer
Not really interest in politic but if he win, the permit valid. If he lose, PR will award a new permit plus 50M fund. Worst case is we need to raise the fund.
anyone know where is the actual location for Heng Ee school? Cause i heard behind the LMC flat is a banglow
Heng Ee school is beside the Army camp.@Tim
Where you get this information?
Anyone can figure out from this?
http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/files/2013/05/02/p501L03.JPG
beside Army camp is not One residence… the land should be more concrete
Any idea the building going behind Haus and DV? seem like a new condo going? open for sales?
Heng Ee school wil be beside Army Camp. And in front of the Heeng Ee will have a new project form Ideal that is Ideal Vision Park.@Tim
Hi all,
I got I unit 24 x 75 facing club house. Anyone interested to buy?
How much?@venice
I have a unit 24+10 intermediate corner for sale, north facing. Direct seller. Contact me for further details.
Hi, Jason
I would like to sell at RM1.35 m
Wow.. now 2-storey also sell more than a million?
no choise, base on yesterday result, now the ‘God’ is untouchable. Everyone have to live on more expensive houses.
House price rises due to many reasons including the fed gov. Simply implying this is caused by the ‘god’ is misleading. Anyway, to me 24×75 at that price sounds expensive unless u really like it.
@3R
Hi,owner of tree residency,regarding your unit how much u wish to sell? can u send me ur details to me? unifest_nelson@aol.com tq
Price is not determined by supply and demand now? Go learn basic econ.
do you ever know the word called ‘goreng’ ? if the ‘god’ keep on trade the land for high price, do you think the developer will sell at higher price or lower price ?
fyi 2storey corner 35×70 selling at 1,352,000 only
wana know more leave ur email here tq
@ N
Email sent.
It is all supply and demand. If the demand for penang land is high, the price will go up la. No such thing like whoever the “god” you mentioned here decides.
hi @k90
do u mind send your details for me too? unifest_nelson@aol.com tq
Anyone check with Ideal when the VP will be? Still June? I see many works still need to be done.
@Ahaun
I doubt so but the sales still confidently said Jun/ Jul for VP.
Visited the site. The Wall completed cementing. I did not had the chance to check out the site near to the Fiera Vista but I think that site is yet to be ready. Seems that the building activities is ramping up.
I am wondering if that big retention pond would still be there at the end.
@k90
Hi k90,
Pls send me the detail. chaichiang@gmail.com. Thanks.
Yes, agree.. doubt to get VP on June..by looking on current status.
I don’t think the big retention pond will be there by looking on the overall actual landscape of the project.
I saw a small building (like a store) next to the guard house. That was not on the layout plan, at least on the brochure. Anyone know what that is?
@kotun
That will be the central rubbish area, same as the rest of the 2 tamans. I am not sure if there will be anyone that will make rounds to collect the rubbish or we have to sent it there
@Mookster
Should have cleaner to collect the rubbish and place them into the rubbish area. If not, we should hire one. There will be cleaner engaged and we can add in this responsibility……. after JMB formed.
Just collected the stamped SPA, and find out that the round about near the guard house is missing. Is this something new or I am actually out of date?
Congrats Bryan welcome to the Community. I don’t think it is made known on the roundabout changes. Did you ask the sales office ?
No wonder I saw someone want to sell a unit with the desciption, close to guard house, in front of garden, which is actually in front of the small store.
my buddy in sathu told me that the maintenance workers will collect your garbage from door to door. No extra charge on top of the monthly maintenance fee.. sweet…
I saw this in Dua Villa forum.
https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2010/12/dua-villas-one-residence/comment-page-1/#comment-129514
Some owners are extending their houses, which is not good later on when trying to get strata title. We should try to prevent same thing from happening in Tree Residence. How eh..?
Anyone knew if there’s going to be badminton court build? It’s stated in this website but not in the S&P.
I don’t think I saw it mentioned in the TR brochure. But you are right. Somehow it is mentioned here in this website.
@Thomas
Want to play badminton, find your friend in FV…… :p
Anyway, I remember the sales mentioned the badminton court before.
Anyone know what is the ‘in between’ period from VP to OC?
Just checked Ideal’s one residence website. It is stated there too. But don’t know where are they going to put the badminton court.
The badminton court suppose to be located at the space opposite unit # 209-211.
Guard house reach the roof, club house reach level 3 (maybe is the roof). Can’t see inside anymore as the wall almost up.
Kotun,
Fully support on ur idea. U must push to management if there is extend at their house especially Semi D unit and Corner Unit.
Of course, full cooperation from owners are very important.
I think we should get ourselves organize and take the discussion to a private forum like in facebook and get connected with the taman owners. What say you ?
When the access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang will be opened? Jul, Aug or even longer time to wait
Finally, the Heng Ee school will be near the round about of Kg Sg Tiram. The land beside Dua villas is the proposed site for Chung San.
@Mookster
Only a few of us active in the forum. Wonder where other TR owners are? Or they are going to sell TR after OC? My experience of joining a FB forum, some friends know that I bought which condo just because I joined and chat in the condo FB forum. Scary ya….
@JY
They are expanding Jln Tun Dr Awang. Guess will be soon, hopefully.
I visit TR weekly and I think the VP won’t be ready by June/July. Perhaps a bit delay. I’m okay with that, as I don’t want them to rush and jeopardize something. But all in all, the area is looking better and better. The road widening is in progress, Vison park will start soon, Hause is progressing well.
SPI and Oneresidence will be a place of choice in a few years.
my prediction will be end Aug13.
That’s no good….. I plan to move in by year end.
Saw a car driving into the access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang. Don’t think it is “officially” open for public cause I saw the road block was removed to allow only one car pass thru. Well, at least if you want to use it for now, you can.
What are the 2 trees doing there standing at the center of the new access road? Hopefully they will build an island and keep the trees. What is Tree Residency if not enough tree around.
This is getting better and better. Good for TR. Just came back from Ideal. A lady told me that nowadays, VP and OC will coincide. I also received Tree Sparina brochure and they include Master Plan map around that whole area (including Sathu, Dua, Tree and Haus). Around Dua, seems like they have a plan to have a hotel, and they are going to have a 3 acre park, in between Dua and Tun Dr Awang. Anybody can confirm on the hotel?
@kotun
Can you upload the map here? Just send a scan copy to admin? I am looking forward the commercial lots of the Vision Park which should be able to lift up the entire area. Setia Triangle maybe too small.
hey to all TR owners, i’m one of your neighbour but too sad i never log in this web until today……
seem like lots of nice & outspoken jiran jiran sorrounding….
anyway, keep update me & share more photos…thanks
Welcome Lucky777.
Not any formal group at such but a loosely tied up of owners and others with invested interest in this project.
I’ve seen the back end of the project, the walls are up and base on actual comparing to photo illustration, looks like the clubhouse is much smaller than usual. I am looking from outside
I got the Tree Sparina brochure from Ideal office today. Get what you meant. I found that they also included Sathu, Dua and Tree as part of the “Slow City”.
@Lucky777
Hello to you. You are first batch buyer? Actually there are only 2~3 cats here.
Hi Bryan, yes, u r right….few of my frens bought TR as well, but dont think they know abt this chat room…@Bryan
kotun, u always go Ideal. They never say u ka ka cau cau meh?
If they don’t, most probably they will say cau ka cau ka.
Haha, I thought I was the only one kena, when I browsed for Ideal Vision few month ago in Ideal office. One of the salesman told me that they have to follow each customer (the intonation is more like I was wasting their time), since they are under CCTV surveillance. And they know that the chance I’m going to buy is less since I just purchased TR.
Pity these kind of people. If I’m buying next time, definitely will not go through them, thus no comission to them. Not to get even, but you could imagine how the after sales service will be from this kind of sales person.
I dont get what u mean, can you elobrate ? their servise bad or ?
Hi, I m direct GENUINE buyer.
Please email me your lot no. & asking price. Thanks.
my email: richard.PENANG@yahoo.com
I m looking for type 22 or 24 only. thanks.
i visited the site. It appear now the VP in July is possible.
So for Ideal claimed bank until 75%. Anyone beyond that?
@Ahaun
They are working on the glass roof of the guard house right now. Some portion of the concrete fence still without plastering. Club house is also until the roof and without plastering. Can’t see the road from outside, but not yet done near the guardhouse. Not able to see the progress of the swimming pool. All this can’t be done in 1 month? After all this completed, still need the checking from gov and bomba.
Wet market everything completed, with food court near Sathu site and wet market at the other end. However, the completion date still Aug.
@Tambun
Hard to explain. U try to go to office, and try to tell them that you’ve just bought a property and just browsing/window shopping. See what they will tell you. But I know one Ideal salesperson that is really nice and professional, by the name Teh.
If you are buying or thinking, go look for Teh.
@kotun
He is the sales manager.
@Bryan
No wonder he’s very nice and reliable.
On the expected completion, I think the chance to get VP in July is quite slim. A lot of thing not done yet. I would imagine one of the big task is to complete the road since they are not going to use asphalt, but tile bricks. so it has to be stacked one by one.
But overall, the whole area is looking better and better day after day. I am glad I bought TR.
I have emailed the master plan to the admin. Hopefully it will be posted soon.
am back, long time didn’t catch up here, hope av1 doing good.
the backyard looks more spacious than I expected. Club house & main road also seems in good progress. Didn’t capture any photos coz we sneak into the site during lunch time, lot’s of contractors keep looking at us.
Just visited the site last week, the road in front of my unit were up, so as most of the “”inner road”
am happy to see the progress, but overall I think earliest for VP will be in Aug, seems like still a lot to go for the clubhouse. (and I do agree, the club house looks small for now, from outside). But I like the fence wall, is higher than expected, higher than Dua I think.
Master map uploaded. 4th row from the top. They are going to have,
1. Hotel.
2. Shopping center.
3. International School confirmed.
Anyone know the hotel name and the vendor (Jusco, Tesco?) for shopping center?
Doubt on the Hotel. One world original plan will also have a hotel, end up became 1 World-2. Some more, the hotel & F&B location is on Dua Villas site? I guess that is Solaris on the other side of the road, in front of FV. Will Solaris commercial lots (with hotel) turn into condo with shop lot like Golden Triangle, Siera Residence and Gardens Ville?
Shopping center not necessary will come with T or J co. And I don’t think it will be a big one, which is not align with the Slow City concept. Probably just a mall with the 195 shop lots.
Hi owners, I m direct GENUINE buyer.
Please email me your lot no. & asking price. I m looking for type 22 or 24 only. Thanks.
my email: richard.PENANG@yahoo.com
Hi owner,
I am serious buyer. Please let me know if you want to release your unit. My email : emily_ooi@ymail.com
@DirectBuyer
@Emily
On the same vicinity, you could try Ideal Haus. But it is not gated. Or you could go to Ideal, and ask if they know anybody who want/have to release a unit.
Can you share here why you choose TR? Just want to hear a new perspective.
Drove by the club house and view it from outside. Looks like 85% completed and I really doubt Aug can complete. Well. Looks like have to wait until after CNY to start renovation.
Hi
So, the hotel suppose to be resided near to FV as per initial proposal and plan, will this be still in place or a change?
I doubt the map shows is confirmed plan?, so, where will be the hotel situated?
@Swan
Hotel will be next to FV.
@Kotun
Thank you for your information. it is glad to hear the area is getting better and better, it comes with essential service which could make a lot of convenience to ppl who stay there. sungai ara will be hot spot in the near future. just like the concept/model in SGP, the area ownes its individual township, the ppl even don’t have to travel to town just for shopping, grocery and etc. it saves a lot of time in travelling. furthermore, airport is nearby, it is good selling point.
@kotun
fr fengshui point of view, sathu and dua design the master room toilet is direct on top of the main door. plus the house direction is not good too. tree residency don’t hv both problem…….just my 2 cents
I wonder near to which site at FV that this Hotel stated will be build. Between FV and TR is just the back access road.. Unless the overall plan on the picture of the retention pond (suppose to be the public garden) would no longer be there..
@Mookster
hello Mookster. One of Ideal people told me that it will be on FV site, between FV and Dua. But I could not be sure if this hotel plan is firm. The 3 acre park, is the vacant land between Dua and Tun Dr Awang.
On this forum, someone mentioned that the retention pond might not be there. The purpose of retention pond to prevent flood. But even with no retention pond, the whole area sail through with no flood problem, during the last few super heavy rains. Another ++ point for the whole area (SPI, Sathu, Dua and TR).
But I prefer to have the retention pond. If done properly, will provide good scenery, and maybe can go fishing there.
@undress code
Yeah that’s true. Even though I don’t believe in Feng Shui, I highly considered it, as my future tenants or my future buyers will likely consider it.
Having said that, given the good location, good looking, and gated n guarded community, I don’t think that these 2 factors will not effect Sathu and Dua so much.
Anyone know if the wet market will be similar to bayan baru wet market (selling fish and all)? This will be convenient for TR, but maybe a bit downside for people living next to it, due to the smell and noise.
typo:
…I don’t think that these 2 factors will effect Sathu and Dua so much….
Yes. There will be wet market but maybe around 10 stall or slightly more only. The other half of the building is hawker center with ~ 20 stall. The table and chair is the fix type. The wet market is totally cover up so I don’t think it will be smelly.
Received the billing asking for another 5% as the serving road to the parcel completed, which means all the road inside completed.
There is an empty land in front of FV. It is suppose to be a commercial building (+hotel).